1:37 pm March 29, 2009, by David O'Brien
March 29th, 20092:21 pm
KC, try going to gameday audio after eventful plays. It would be like an instant audio replay. You’ll hear how our announcers liked it, or not.
March 29th, 20092:23 pm
Yes you can………you can pinch run……….you can put pressure late in the game with a bunt from a speedy hitter that comes in to pinch hit for the pitcher or what ever………..speed never slumps………and we lack a lot of it………….we dont have a IF capable of stealing 30 bases……..only Schafer might be able to do that……..This team is slower as a yawn. And Norton is not exactly like an getting on base machine……..nobody is saying he is bad……….I just think Anderson fits better our needs. We needs speed……….Anderson gives us that……….we need power………Norton is not a power hitter, he has some pop but thats my opinion.
Winterville: http://blog.seattletimes.nwsource.com/mariners/2009/03/29/morrows_starting_days_done_–.html and http://blogs.thenewstribune.com/mariners/2009/03/29/morrow_wants_to_close_and_he_almost_cert
March 29th, 20092:24 pm
Nice! David Ross looks better than what we’ve had in recent years as a backup.
March 29th, 20092:26 pm
Giggidy, you must be a new baseball fan and woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning. Since you don’t seem to know, Vazquez started his career with the Expos, went to the New York Yankees then spent a couple of years in the young league with the White Sox, whom we aquired him from.
BTW, I like what I have seen from Ross this spring……much better chance to get on base than the backup catchers we have had last few years…….. or at least is a guy that is makes pitchers work……..in a few words…….not an easy out.
March 29th, 20092:27 pm
Doc Holliday, speed is very, very overrated. The Boston Red Sox hardly ever steal bases and they always win a ton of games. Our biggest need is not speed. It is power. Period. Exclamation point.
OH NO…SCHAFER LOOKS LIKE ‘08 FRENCHY!!! Told ya
March 29th, 20092:28 pm
He only spent three years with the White Sox. You get more wins and losses when you average around seven innings a start.
March 29th, 20092:29 pm
Kelly Johnson is such a pimp with the high socks. I love it.
so doc holliday,
your proposal is to use up a bench slot just for pinch running? Do you realize how few times pinch running is even that valuable. It has to be a very specific situation. A slower runner has to be on base, that you would be okay substituting for, in s situation where the base in front is clear, in a close game, in the last few innings for pinch running to really be valuable. In most situations we’d be much better off having norton and letting prado or infante pinch run. Norton will provide a valuable pinch hit in almost every game. Josh might provide a valuable pinch run in one out of every 8 games.
“speed never slumps”
Doc, then what was that when Josh batted .215/.239/.246 (yes, a .246 SLG% !) with 21 K’s and 1 BB in 65 ab’s from Sept. 3 thru 22 last year?
Wow, that’s eerie Dawg19. That’s exactly what happened this morning. I knew something was different, but I just chalked it up to be sleepy!
March 29th, 20092:30 pm
Will the Braves finally put the full lineup tomorrow against dice-k?
Thomas, my last post wasn’t directed at you.
Thanks for those links PWHjort. There was some uncertainty in the news that I had read so I appreciate those links. He was Mr. Irrelevant in our draft. Last pick number 250 overall.
Doc, Norton is one of the BEST pinch hitters in all of baseball, and you want to waive him to keep a guy that barely gets on base 30% of the time. A guy that has NEVER been a pinch hitter, much less excelled at it. Again, your making NO sense my friend, none.
PWHjort speed is very, very overrated.
March 29th, 20092:32 pm
Marcus Thames just DRILLED that RBI double to left-center gap
March 29th, 20092:33 pm
Dawg19, Giggidy is new here and trying to make a name for himself. Guess he wants to win the Jerk of the Day award his first day. So far he’s WAY out in front.
PWHjort, The Sox do steal bases. JD Drew ran a lot last year, Pedroia swiped a few. Ellsbury stole 50! Speed puts pressure on teams, period. Ask how comfortable a pitcher is when folks like Jose Reyes, Shane Victorino and Ichiro are on base. I promise you pitchers can NOT fully concentrate on the hitter and adequately hold good base runners with speed, thus hitters behind these type players tend to get a few more mistakes to hit.
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I think the Mariners are being stupid. Marrow should be a starting pitcher. And for the record, I think Marrow belongs in a 10-team standard 5X5 league, whether he starts or relieves. Though he’s much more valuable as a starter.
McFann, I was just thinking that if your were around, that comment was gonna bring you out
March 29th, 20092:34 pm
Doc H. we dont have a IF capable of stealing 30 bases
OK. So the infielders steal 25 and we’ll let McCann take care of the other 5.
REdsox hardly ever steal a base? Is that so? I can recall that great comeback in the playoff against the yanks………..it was orchestrated by a little guy named dave roberts……..and he didnt hit any HR nor got on base by himself………he was a pinch runner and he ate up mariano rivera that night………alone.
That was not a bad pitch at all that Thames hit.
March 29th, 20092:35 pm
Tough inning for JS, strikeout then misplaying the ball. Did you guys see the divot that kicked up when he tried to play the ball off the fence? It was the size of a basketball, tough luck.
But anyway, Jordan strikes out too much, no question. He needs to work on that. But given his success after he turned his attention to hitting left handers, I feel confident he will be able to make the adjustment.
I also think we are seeing our starters right now go through the inevitable decline the week before the season, where there are no stakes for the games and their arms get worn down.
Brandon Inge hit a two-run rocket onto the left-field berm, giving the Tigers a 4-3 lead.
Oh brother, Vasquez is getting pounded here.
Man Vazquez is leaving his fastball right down the middle.
That one was.
March 29th, 20092:36 pm
I hope the Tigers just know Vasquez really good, or that he has the dead arm, because he doesn’t look real good today.
Not to mention Norton’s OBP has been far better than Andersons over the last four years.
Vasquez location way off today…..
That’s good, Vazquez. Get the long balls out of your system before we go to Citizens Bank Park.
Yep, that’s me–ever alert, always watching out for those kinds of posts…
March 29th, 20092:37 pm
So you are saying that Norton will hit .280 and Anderson will hit what? 150? come on……..Anderson is no pete rose, but he will get on base………..if he is that bad, how come braves want to keep him¿¿¿
March 29th, 20092:38 pm
(If anyone else posted something about this, I don’t apologize.)
I got a copy of ESPN the Magazine in the mail yesterday. It’s their baseball preview issue. They’re focusing on the next “flavor of the month” in MLB: defense. Baseball Prospectus put together a defense rating for each team. In the NL East, the Braves’ defense is projected to save 4 runs (+4) more than the ML average. The Mets are a +1. The defending champion Phillies are a -5. The Nats are a -9.
The Marlins have the best number: +6.
As points of reference, the Tigers’ D tops the majors with a +17. The Rangers are projected to post a putrid -20.
As far as predictions go, it’s the Dodgers, Cubs, and Phillies winning the divisions in the NL. The Mets get the wild card. (I’m sure this is some sort of a conspiracy.) In the AL, it’s the Angels, Twins, and Rays taking division crowns. The Red Sox get the wild card.
World Series prediction? Rays over Cubs.
March 29th, 20092:39 pm
Yea I drafted him hoping he would start. Ideally, I wanted him to start the year on the DL to open up another spot for me and see how he did before I put him on my team for real. Oh well. Hopefully he stays healthy.
March 29th, 20092:40 pm
Besides……….when Schafer needs a day off or if he gets hurt for 5 days……….what will you do? put Diaz there? You will have to put infante. there is no other option……….
March 29th, 20092:41 pm
I’m switching between the Tigerman, golfing, and the NASCAR race, on tv. I’m reading the posts and watching the Braves, on a split-screen of my computer. My stamina is depleting. Man, that ban on amphetamines sucks!
Schafer looking bad? Or looking like a young kid trying to followup the bombs he saw earlier? Serious question? I have dish network, who apparently, was never able to work a deal with MLB Network. Garbage!
Dale Murphy's Mole
March 29th, 20092:42 pm
I completely agree with the notion of trading Norton instead of J. Anderson.
Diaz and Norton are basically the same player, which is why we traded for Norton last year after Diaz went down. Either of the two backup infielder could back up Kotchman, along with Diaz, and Anderson gives us speed off the bench if we need someone to pinch hit late TO LEAD OFF AN INNING. I agree that Anderson isn’t an imposing presence when we need an RBI late, but as a leadoff pinch-hitter or as a pinch-runner, he brings a lot to the table.
On a more important note, who is our back up center fielder if Anderson doesn’t make the club. I love Schaefer and think he’ll make a great CF, but if he’s not ready or goes in a funk or just needs a day off, who do we stick out there? Infante? I have to think Anderson is a better option.
And do we have to keep bringing Blanco up? He should already be on the train to AAA. Maybe we could package him with Norton to get some mid-level bullpen prospect who could help us out in case of injury.
Just saw a stat — Lowe is one of only three pitchers to win at least 11 games each of the past seven seasons. The other two? C.C. and Tim Hudson.
Huddy has a 10-season streak with at least 11 wins, and Sabathia has an eight-season streak. Lowe is at seven seasons.
Anderson is important to the Braves. In a one-run game, McCann or Norton could get on base in the eighth or ninth. Pinch-Run with Anderson, he can steal second and get bunted to third. Am I the only one who thinks this could happen more than once this year?
March 29th, 20092:44 pm
G. Anderson struck out looking in his second time up
Schafer is the CF of the future, but remember he did well last year in spring training and had an average year at AA.
The Braves would be foolish to trade Anderson for a average middle reliever (we have a bullpen of those already) and they would be really foolish to release him.
If you people think that Vazquez will do anything other than compile 200 innings, with around 200 K’s, and ERA around 4.00 to 4.75, and compile more than 15 wins, you’re crazy.
He will provide some sort of stability, and a healthy arm to go to the bump on a consistent basis, giving us a 50/50 shot at winning each game he pitches.
Those who expect some sort of NL-resurection to Cy Young form, are dreaming. If the White Sox knew he had that in him, they would have kept him (or asked for more). Period.
It IS a mystery as to how a guy that has good enough stuff to average almost a K/IP, can have a mediocre record, and NOT be more dominating. Until you realize that he ALSO has averaged EXACTLY a hit per IP, for his career (2070.2 IP & 2070 hits allowed).
THEN, when you factor in that he allows a HR every 7 or so innings, that pretty much sums it up. Glavine, for instance, has also averaged almost a hit per inning over 4000+ innings in his career. However, he has allowed a HR every 12 or so innings, and is also capable of inducing DP’s on a regular basis (or at least, he was).
Mental lapses on Javier’s part? I don’t know. Ozzie Guillen didn’t think he was mentally tough enough to pitch in a big game.
So by that token, you’d think that Vazquez if he was as good as some think, would have been the lone shining star for those mediocre expos teams. He’s prone to the big inning allowed, which is easily just as much to blame as being on a mediocre team.
That all being said, he’s STILL a nice addition to a staff that had 4 of the 5 starters in 2008 miss most of the season. LOL! I just don’t expect him to get Cy Young votes like some others on the old blog do.
March 29th, 20092:45 pm
TnBrian (1:56 pm): “…Selig has to be held responsible for letting the Yanks have such an advantage with that payroll which is a serious problem. MAN, Tomko is pitchin, A-Rod is out and they still have a huge advantage over 95% of teams in MLB.”
That’d be all but one.
Which one team do you think the Yankees do not have “a huge advantage over”? (I guess they have only a moderate advantage over those guys, huh?)
(And if you include the Yankees themselves in the pool of “teams in MLB”, you’re saying they have “a huge advantage over” every team but their own. Damm Selig — he oughta make the Yankees play themselves 16 times a year! It’s only fair, right? Yeah, right.)
Defense ratings arent the next flavor of the month. They have always been there. Just like OPS or OBP. They have always existed. Average fans are finally becoming educated as to what stats are important and which ones arent.
Rob from SC
still a good swing from Franacoeur
Anderson career OBP .364
So……….taking in account that Anderson is in his 1st few majors AB……….he might even get better…………while nortons prime is already gone………
March 29th, 20092:46 pm
LOL……make a name for myself? On a silly blog? I’m new here because I work 6-7 days a week. I don’t have the time to be a regular here. Trust me I’m not here to make any of you know my name. I have a Sunday afternoon to relax and watch some baseball. This blog thing intrigues me somewhat and it’s kinda silly and fun all rolled into one.
BlawgDawg, it sounds like you are a seasoned vet at this format of screwing off. In no way does it concern me whether or not anyone here remembers me. Because tomorrow morning I’ll be back to the grind and you’ll be giving the next newbie hell.
Different Stroke for Different Folks!
For the record……….I do like Norton………..just think Anderson is our better option.
March 29th, 20092:48 pm
BTW………..Anderson brings better defense than norton if needed in the OF. And Infante brings better D at 1b over norton if needed. OR at least as good……..but I would say that he is better.
THB (5:36 pm): ” Jo-Jo had a string of really good outings last year too in which he had an outing that he went 8 innings and struck out close to 10 against the Brewers.”
So how many’s that – 7? 8?? 9???
“Schafer is the CF of the future, but remember he did well last year in spring training and had an average year at AA. dap01
Yeah, the mental strain of an impending 50 game suspension for HGH, wouldn’t have had that much to do with that, huh? Just giving you crap man. I agree, he needs some AB’s against AAA pitching. That being said, Anderson hasn’t torn the cover off the ball this spring either, so what’s that say about him, and the competition for CF?
Add to the fact that Anderson is supposed to be the “speed” guy in the equation, and yet Schafer has out-numbered him in that category too. Granted Schafer has more hits and thus has been on base more, but how’s the old saying go? “You can’t steal 1B”?
Steve from OH
Sample size, Doc. Anderson has all of 200 ML AB. His OBP in almost 3,000 minor league AB? .340. Tell me which one you think he’s more likely to end up close to.
March 29th, 20092:50 pm
Thank you, Chop Chop (& 5:59 pm). Schafer = Cobb?!?!? It is to laugh.
March 29th, 20092:51 pm
Well said Giggidy.
BTW ont he debate Anderson v. Norton. They are two totally different players. If the season plays out the way the braves plan it, Norton will be the main PH and not have to play any in OF. He may get a spot start at 1B. Hopefully it won’t be like last year with all the injuries and such in the OF. The braves want Norton to hit for some pop off the pine.
If the braves could get away with carrying only 11 in the bullpen, Anderson would be worth keeping for late inning defense in LF and pinch running. However, for what the braves are asking of the lead PH, Norton is the best option.
Tom O’Hawke- you forgot Louisville 18 Mich St 15 7:19 1st half
Thanks for taking the bait. Of course, defense has always been important. It’s not even difficult to understand the differences between players on defense. Smart baseball people have always understood this. Smart fans have always understood this.
you don’t run on Schafer
March 29th, 20092:52 pm
Schafer another OF assist throwing out Ordonez from LF trying to stretch a double (and running like a catcher, i might add — man, did he look slow there)
Steve from OH (March 28th, 2009 8:10 pm): ” Good strategy or underhanded play?”
It’s what GMing is all about these days. Seems nobody here appreciates it.
Good strategy, imo; at least under the current CBA.
Sorry, Schafer’s Wafers.
March 29th, 20092:53 pm
If you think Anderson is a better player than Norton or that he’s more valuable to the team, you’re wrong. I don’t know who posted that, but Norton was acquired about a month before Diaz went down to be a pinch-hitter. Norton is one of the most valuable bench players in the NL. Anderson sucks. I’m not going to write a 400 word post on why, but just trust me, Anderson sucks.
March 29th, 20092:55 pm
ease19 (8:22 pm): ” Regarding Schafer, are we REALLY concerned with 2014-2015? Isn’t the goal to win now?”
Yes, it is. But will the Braves not having Schafer the first 2, 3, 4 weeks of the season REALLY put the Braves out of contention?
THAT is the question for Frank Wren.
March 29th, 20092:58 pm
Random, there’s 3 possibilities for Schafer. Call him up immediately get 6.0 years of service and 3 arbitration years out of him. Call him up after 12 days and get 6.9 years of service and 4 arbitration years. Or call him up after 6-8 weeks and get 6.66 years of service and 3 arbitration years. I’m for option 2.
March 29th, 20092:59 pm
Hey, Guillen. NICE ROUTE, MAGELLAN!
March 29th, 20093:00 pm
“Baseball Prospectus put together a defense rating for each team. In the NL East, the Braves’ defense is projected to save 4 runs (+4) more than the ML average. The Mets are a +1. The defending champion Phillies are a -5. The Nats are a -9.
The Marlins have the best number: +6.” (Chop Chop 2:38)
I find their +6 with the Marlins, somewhat mystifying. Last year, the only team in baseball that the Marlins had a better fielding percentage, was the Texas Rangers. How did they improve, that much, over the off season?
March 29th, 20093:01 pm
Why would I “just trust you” that Anderson sucks? Norton is a pinch-hitter with doubles power and limited defensive ability. Dime a dozen obviously, since we already have that guy in Diaz. Anderson has been a defensive standout with great base-running ability in the minors and brings the Braves an element they don’t already have. And as the wonderful posters with stats have shown, he can get on base at roughly the same clip as Norton and do something once he does.
Good pinch-hitters are valuable, but we should have Diaz or Garrett available off the bench in any given game and I would rather see them walking to the plate than Norton any day.
March 29th, 20093:03 pm
Ozzie Guillen didn’t think he was mentally tough enough to pitch in a big game N8
then why did he keep throwing him out there with little rest the last month of last season? Ozzie is kind of a nut case. Sure wouldn’t want him as my manager, from either above or below
March 29th, 20093:04 pm
He can’t get on base = he’s a terrible offensive player.
Giggidy You win man, you win. Guess your smartazz remarks to me to start the day were just your way of trying to be friendly, my bad for misunderstanding.
March 29th, 20093:05 pm
Vazquez settling in.
March 29th, 20093:06 pm
Defense ratings arent the next flavor of the month. They have always been there. Just like OPS or OBP. They have always existed. Average fans are finally becoming educated as to what stats are important and which ones arent. SHANE
yeah they’ve been around but pretty suspect. The latest Bill James interview he stated that they are finally coming of age in the last year or two, B4 that they were way outclassed by hitting & pitching stats. He says they are still behind but have closed the gap.
Ozzie Guillen went with a 4 man rotation at the end of the season because there were literally only 4 pitchers he could trust. Danks, Vazquez, Buherle, and Floyd.
Look that Vazquez adjusting the Second time around
March 29th, 20093:07 pm
Any game updates would be much appreciated
FRANCOUER sure looks like a man who wants to stay in ATLANTA. What a blast. And good lead-off AB for KELLY in the 1st. How many pitches was that – 9? Maybe he’s getting back to the young KELLY I saw several seasons back. VASQUEZ is throwing a lot of balls the TIGERS are golfing. Seems to be a lot of carry today. I suppose he’ll be alright once we’re into the season a bit. Has to round into shape.
18 Wheels of Love
March 29th, 20093:08 pm
That’s the thing with Vaz, he might give up some runs but he always seems to adjust and can still eat up innings. Even when he is ‘off’, he keeps you in games.
March 29th, 20093:09 pm
Then Braves wont have a problem………why bother…….great to know how much JA sox, braves official will now be able to sleep……..finally
Vasquez finished the bot 4 with a strike out on Inge on several very nice breaking balls.
Ross starts the 5th with a fly out to Granderson.
J. Anderson at the plate. Strikes out.
March 29th, 20093:10 pm
Giggidy, when DOB finds out you called his blog “silly”(2:46), your name will be “mud” (that would be easier to spell, however).
PWH, Ryan Braun only posted a .335 OBP last year, and he certainly wasn’t a terrible offensive player. I agree that Anderson’s OBP certainly precludes him because of his lack of power, but saying “can’t get on base=terrible offensive player” is a bit too general, I think.
Elaborate on that point specifically for Anderson and I don’t think there can be any argument!
March 29th, 20093:11 pm
Like what I’m seeing from Vazquez. Not sure what the pitch count is, but if this were regular season, I would take 6 IP 4 ER as a “bad” start. It’s only ST, but I love how hes adjusted so far. And its just my opinion, but what bobby said to him after that bad inning and what ozzie would have said after that inning might make the difference.
March 29th, 20093:12 pm
KJ got a pitch to hit but swings through it. 2-2. Pops out to third to end the inning.
Superman wears Tim Tebow pajamas
After the last round of cuts, how many players are currently left in camp?
March 29th, 20093:13 pm
Kelly was late on those fastballs from Minor.
March 29th, 20093:14 pm
Got a Freddie Freeman sighting at 1B, btw.
Once again: Anderson’s career OBP in minors is .340. In majors, despite small sample size, it is .368. Norton’s career OBP in majore is .339, meaning they can be expected to get on base at roughly the same clip.
Now, for what they do once they get on base: Anderson has stolen 292 bases in 362 attempts and scored 480 runs combined in minors and majors in 6 seasons. Norton has stolen 15 bases in 33 attempts and scored 312 runs in 12 major-league seasons.
So, if they get on base roughly the same amount of times, why wouldn’t you want the guy who scores more runs once he does?
Frank from KS
In replying to your 2:38 pm post of the division winners….
I think my home-state Royals will have something to say about either the AL Central or the American League Wild Card.
I think they may be this year’s Rays. With the addition of Coco Crisp and Mike Jacobs….I think they will be in contention for one or the other.
March 29th, 20093:15 pm
According to the Marlins’ preview, it looks like BP is expecting Cameron Maybin and Jeremy Hermida to be plus defenders in center and left. Also, Mike Jacobs was an absolutely terrible first baseman. They’re projecting Gaby Sanchez at first. He’s a plus defender. Hanley, Cody Ross, Jorge Cantu, and catcher John Baker are projected as average defenders. Uggla is the only bad one.
As far as the Braves’ preview goes, Kotchman is one plus defender; Kelly Johnson is the other. Kelly’s probably not good enough with the glove to be considered a plus. Escobar certainly is. Also, Josh Anderson is the projected centerfielder. If Schafer is starting in center, the defense there goes from below-average to a plus. Such a switch would likely give the Braves the best defense in the division.
March 29th, 20093:16 pm
Dale Murphy’s Mole ,
And if a 2nd pinch hitter is needed I would rather see infante come up to the plate
I’m not spending time and thought to explain why Josh Anderson sucks. I’m too hung over and all the smart people on the blog know that Anderson sucks for all the reasons that I would point out, so it’s just not worth it. You know what I meant. And you’re right, can’t get on base = terrible offensive player is too general. But most people know he lacks any kind of secondary offensive skills (except speed and you can’t steal 1st base).
No offense meant, DOB. I read you everyday, I just don’t participate.
In fact, if I may make a request? I would prefer the post sometime around 5:00 or 5:30am, if at all possible. Thanks
March 29th, 20093:18 pm
Good enough for me, PWH. I’m a sucker for the hungover excuse!
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