Is it just me or what? About 2 of every 3 of my posts are out there in cyber-space. I had some very creative stuff on those. Oh well, someday the inhabitants from the planet, QZXaaB, will appreciate it.
Placing Jordan on the major league team sends him the message that: “We think you’re a wonderful player and can’t wait to see you play for the Braves.” By sending Schafer to AAA, Wren (or more likely Bobby) can sit him down and say “Jordan, you’ve got some unbelievable talent. I think one of the main reasons you’re being sent down is your tendency to over-swing with two strikes and risk the strikeout. While you’re in Gwinnett, I want you to work on your plate coverage. Work on defending the plate with two strikes. Don’t lose your aggressiveness as a hitter, just focus a bit more on cutting back the strikeouts and defending the plate. If you can work on this for us, there may be a spot for you out in centerfield in a month or two in Atlanta.”
Yeah, when the Braves did the same thing to Frenchy last year, he was gone for what?……five days? LOL Yeah, that’s the kind of thing the Braves do. The Braves have never given a rat’s azz about strikeouts. Frenchy and Andruw and any number of recent Braves have proven that.
PWHjort, well I consider Ibanez a slight upgrade in Left because, while he doesn’t hit for as much power as Burrell, he is more consistent, and is a better fielder. Not a big difference though, overall.
Pretty much the same team as last year. And again, without the punching bag in ATL they had last year, they’ll have to raise their level of play if they’re going to win 90 this year.
Also, I wonder if there is a part of Frank Wren that wishes that he didn’t resign Glavine now that we’ve all seen that Tommy Hanson is ready for the Majors? – Robert(Chipper Is The Best)
No. He knew Hanson was ready (or extremely close) months ago, hence why he wouldn’t trade Hanson to San Diego in the Peavy deal. According to a DOB story a few months back, Wren went up to Hanson in person to tell him he wouldn’t be traded while he was in Arizona. That should tell you precisely how much stock Wren put in Hanson way before ST. Keeping Hanson on a regular pitching schedule (and hungry for the majors) in Gwinnett was the right move. Not to mention the obvious part of delaying his arb-eligible clock.
I’m sorry cabravesfan (9:59), I forgot you were still there, and you’re part Swedish. Well, the truth is, I use the heavy stuff when I need the heavy stuff. The rest of the time, all I listen to is ABBA.
KC, just because the Braves have solidified the team this year and it is much less likely that the whole pitching staff (it seemed) will totally crumble because of injuries, it does not guarantee that the Braves will fare any better against the Phillies. Even when the Braves were winning the division there have been teams that have had their number — teams that were not any better than (usually not as good as) the Braves. I certainly hope we are not their doormat this year, but I want to see it before I breathe easy about it. (I don’t really get up tight about it, but I sure do wish we would do better against them.)
Tell Will Ohman to get off his high horse, swallow his pride and call the Braves with a reasonable offer. He needs us as much as we need him or he can go suffer with the Padres.
cabravesfan, now that I got all apologiletic (is that a word?), what the heck do you know about “Child In Time”, anyway? Lew, feel free to chip in anytime you’d like.
I think Ohman is worth $1.5 million/year+incentives. That is reportedly what he’s down to asking.
I think his performance last season is enough for Wren to justify his resigning.It may well turn out that what we have is enough. Ohman has handled the situational role effectively. We do not know if anyone currently on the roster can do so.
I’m afraid without the situational guy, Boyer and Acosta are going to have to pitch more because Bobby will have to use a righthander where he could’ve used a leftie if he had one that could get outs like Ohman did last season.
There really is something weird about Ohman remaining unsigned at this point.Perhaps he’s betting he can get more if he waits until the end of ST?
to be exact on Ohman: Will Ohman seeks a one-year, $1.75MM deal with easily-reachable incentives for another million. He also prefers the West Coast
BTW_ I believe a team will sign him up beofre the season starts
Also MLBTR says Ohman to Pirates is possible:the Pirates have ramped up their interest in free agent lefty Will Ohman. The Bucs made an offer Saturday for one year plus an option, and Ohman’s agent countered yesterday. Ohman’s still looking for a $2MM salary. Dialogue is ongoing with the Pirates
Now translating remark of Kenshin Kawakami concerning Bobby Cox. As always being verbatim:
“Cox-san is superior maestro. Immobile like mountain but more like sea. Is swearing many oaths such as words not being printed in newspaper. Always seeking players who die their spirit for teams. If managing American Motor Car companies then Honda have no lunch!”
You just youtubed it? So you were knocking it without ever seeing it? It’s like Anders, it’ll grow on you. Some time, when you feel a little more open-minded, try a few more bars.
Just reading some previous posts – Melissa gets on the blog and you guys are like drunk frat boys at a keg party at 4 am when there’s only one girl left.
Time for us Bravos to get tough. If Schafer is clearly the best CF then send Blanco to AAA and waiver Josh A at the last minute.
If JA is not the best player for CF then why care about a meaningless loss of personnel……… the extra excitement and $$ Schafer will bring right away will pay big dividends for the psyche of us fans who MAY buy tickets and shirts (etc) this year.
Ride your profits and cut your losses quickly… FWIW Schafer is uber quick around the bases and probably faster than JA
Braves will end up the season 1st in pitching and 1st in hitting……among top 3 in runs scored and will make the playoff……..not sure if they can go from 4th to 1st in 1 year, but they will make the playoffs.
PTBNL, NOTHING is guaranteed. We can’t predict the future. We can only talk about likelihoods right now. With that in mind, I have to say that it is EXTRAORDINARILY unlikely that the Braves/Phillies will be anywhere near that lopsided (16-3) again. Even if the Braves had NOT improved their team significantly, another season series that lopsided would be unlikely. But with a vastly improved Braves team… I’d bet my Warren Spahn rookie card (if I had one) against it.
Again, nothing is impossible, but as I see it, the season series could go either way this year. And it is highly unlikely that either team (the Braves or Phillies) will absolutely own the other, as the Phillies owned the Braves last year.
I’m thinking, is it possible, scoots just showed up as Madonna’s Chin Hair (10:50)? What the hell are you talking about? Is there any other of you guys that have a clue?
Thanks N Nine, that’s still reasonable I think given his effectiveness.
I’ve stopped placing a lot of weight on where players reportedly prefer to play. We were told the Braves were a preference of Peavy’s and we all know how that turned out.
Then there was all this talk about how Sabathia wanted to play on West Coast, and well, he’s a Yankee now. So, I wouldn’t be scared off by that West Coast thing.
I suggested trading away Logan and O’Flaherty and that $805k right there!
I bet if the Braves offered @million he’d take it.I’d at least like to see them make an attempt though I’m not holding my breath.
March 26th, 2009
8:18 pm
The Bear his current contract has nothing to do with the trade. That contract was not signed when he was acquired.”
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I am fully aware of his contract and when he got it. Only after turning in a good performance in 07 did the Braves sign him to the two year monstrosity he is under now (its second year). That was a mistake in my opinion and I am sure I am not alone.
Soriano worked a good deal (or his agent did) when he signed that two year contract.
What I reported was that the people in Seattle said he was either perpetually sick or injured and many of them were mysteries. I think we are now seeing what they were talking about. I don’t know why the man doesn’t seem to want to work hard and participate but if he wants a career after 2009 he sure as he11 better get to cracking. Who is going to want to sign him for anything if he turns in another year like 2008?
Doc Holiday, buckle in… I’m sure you’re about to be lambasted for that prediction. But I think you could be right.
I think the Braves will, in all likelihood, finish near the top (of not AT the top) of the league in ERA and hitting, and at least top 5 or 6 in the league in runs scored.
This Braves team is likely to hit for a fairly high team average. Not a lot of homers… but more than many people expect, and they’ll have a chance to lead the league in doubles this year. If Francoeur bounces back as it appears he will, the Braves have a number of BIG doubles hitters in this lineup. And that is especially significant when you consider how well these Braves hitters hit with RISP.
Escobar, McCann, Chipper, Kotchman, KJ, and G.Anderson… all hit very well with RISP last year. And if Francoeur and Diaz get back to pre-2008 form – or better (as it appears they will)… you can add two more players to the list of good clutch hitters.
Well, the season is almost ready to begin. I am most proud of the fact that my Nortron 5000 cyber-hitting unit is new and improved this year. It is not only more life-like (it spits! simulated saliva, of course) it has more useful auxiliary functions. It has a new chip that will allow it to prepare the tax returns of the other players while it waits to pinch hit. Chipper loves that!
Doc Holiday, they might not win any (seems to be fairly political), but the Braves will have a few Gold Glove candidates. Francoeur won one in ‘07, and Escobar and Kotchman are both GG caliber.
KC, I wasn’t busting on you. More than anything expressing my disappointment about how terribly we played against them last year. It was like the Braves turned into a Little League team every time we faced them…. even before the decimation of our pitching staff.
Sure, the odds were against it happening last year, much less this year. But like I said, I want to see it… not depend on the odds. lol
Bear – Soriano’s agent accepting the second year at $6.1 mil was the tell in that poker hand. Why would he give away Soriano’s first year of FA for $6.1 mil when he was assumed to be the Braves closer? Closers were going for a minimum of $ 10 mil per at that point. He left a lot of money on the table in the second year to pick up maybe an extra $1 mil in the first year. Given Soriano’s elbow history there was absolutely no reason for Wren to give him that extension. The Braves thought they were getting a bargain and got burned. Even if he does pitch this year as a set up guy he’s terribly expensive.
I’m telling you, the guy knows he’s damaged goods and can’t string together two months of effective pitching. He took the money and ran. At least Hampton wanted to pitch.
Did DOB ever give the update on Soriano that he mentioned in the blog?
KC – Doesn’t the pen appear to be an impeding problem? I love the Braves as much as the next guy on this blog, but I’ve always thought of 09 as a phase of our rebuilding process. But we do have a lot of potential. Would our fans from other teams “sleep with the enemy” if they weren’t a little concerned.
Braves Fan 79 – you gotta leave that somewhere else.
The Gwinnett Braves will be in Durham April 13th – 15th. There’s a chance Hanson may pitch against Price in that series. Possibly the second time through the rotation for the ace of each club.
Look for a new Brave soon. Wren is probably hot on the trail for a lefty in the pen, I’ll betcha. Especially now with Soriano’s health ? and Logan and O’Flahtery apparantly looking lost out there, that pen is almost gauranteed to be on his mind. Someone mentioned earlier about Chip Carey thinking Atl. will trade for a bat. HUH? I don’t think that would even be on Wren’s mind until maybe the summer and that’s only if they’re in contention and they don’t have to trade a ton. Maybe he did mean later in the summer, but that’s still doubtful, I think.
Anders, it’s good to hear from you. I’m glad you’re keeping up(11:22). I’m glad I have a second opinion. Even if it’s from a Met fan. I told him it’s funny. My only objection to what you said to Bear (11:20), was how can you fault the Braves wasting money, when (do you really want to get me started?) Omaya has spent 50% more and has received 50% less, than the Braves have. I know I’m prejudiced, but I believe our 92 million $ payroll, will kick the hell out of your 142 million $ this year. As far as the future is concerned, hey you really don’t wnnt to hear that sad news, do you? (see guys, I told you I could get serious, too.)
Anders, we know! Soriano has been pretty much a bust up to this point. No need to keep putting salt in that wound. I like Rafy and think he can easily be as good, if not better, than Putz. But, health is the problem. As far as bust, how about all the busts your Mets have piled up over the years? I bet it beats out ours by a long shot.
BB5795 (An old inmate number or something?) – I believe we were discussing the Soriano contract. Not sure how you morphed that into my GM spent better than your GM? That said, Minaya had a better year than AIG -you’re up.
Well, Anders.. the Braves have the talent that a team would want and could possibly trade a guy like Grabow(just throwin out a name) and pay some his contract. Depends on the talent, but nobody really even knows for sure how much they have to spend, not even you Anders.
Did DOB ever give the update on Soriano that he mentioned in the blog? — Anders
No, DOB did not get that update. DOB and Bowman asked Cox about the cuts and about Lowe and about the left-handers struggling and about center field after the game, and DOB realized when they went upstairs that everyone had forgotten to ask about Soriano.
But earlier in the day, when a reporter approached Soriano to ask a question, Soriano waved a finger, sort of like Dikembe Mutombo, as he headed to the trainer’s room, not to be seen again before the clubhouse closed.
These guys are all the outfield draft class of 2005.The top three guys are in the big leagues and the others are knocking on the door.The number to the far right is the prospect ranking by baseball america. Looks like Schafer compares favorably to all of these guys at this point in spring training. Comparing any of these guys to Josh Anderson is insulting.
I don’t mind seeing Duke lose. My eyes get blinded when I see all those white guys out there at once. Scary.
Memphis is shattering what’s left of the broken glass on my bracket. My brother’s wife is a big Memphis fan. He’s sort of adopted the team, too. I’m sure they’re beating their heads against walls tonight. That “40 Minutes of Hell” stuff can do that to ya.
Anders, you mean DollyWood? My God, that place sucks! Me and my girlfriend like Gatlinburg but only stay way up in the cabins. What made you think of that? You know, Chattanooga is a beautiful place..you should visit some time.
Nice to see the conceded ***hole make an appearance. I think you owed Anders one. Dude’s been doing his Whack-A-Mole imitation for too long without getting hit with the Bop Gun.
My dad finally broke his habit on gambling on those college BB games, or at least that’s what we’re told. Wondered why he would all the sudden be broke.
I asked Bear because believe it or not I haven’t been on the blog much at all today and didn’t take the time to read 700 posts before 11:00 tonight. Plus you weren’t on here when I asked – so I thought “hey, maybe someone on here can tell me if DOB updated the crew on Soriano like he said he might?” Now only after your drippingly sarcastic response do I realize just how offensive that must have been to you.
Next time I’ll address it to you, hope you read it while I’m still on here, and bless me with a response which I’m sure will read something like “Anders, I only posted what Wren said about Soriano three hours ago and we discussed it for the next two hours!”
I’m not sure who’s crankier ? Soriano when he’s injured or you when you sleep on that damn chair.
If Pit. does sign Ohman it could mean Grabow might be traded for prospects or whatever they’d want. It’d make sense for them to that if they’re looking for youngsters. We got em..wonder how much Grabow is making?
Anders (11:41), you’re on to me. When I was imprisoned, for maiming Mets fans, it was a choice of 5795 or 6986. Not one to be a hyprocrite, I chose the former. Sorry about spelling your GM’s name wrong. Between the NCAA’s on TV, and trying to cook dinner, I’m losing some of my focus. Unfortunately, I don’t start off with a surplus. And, pretty soon, everybody will forget your GM’s name. Comparing your GM is to AIG, is a work of art. In that capacity, yeah, he’s the man!
When I lived in the UK we used to play a cricket team called 5795, turns out they were formed by a group of guys from a Synagogue and that was the year that they were formed in the Jewish calendar.
olie, what the heck is wrong with you? I’m not allowed to say the same thing I said last week, and during the entire offseason…resign Ohman? I can’t say that I’m worried about the situational leftie spot? What kind of crap is that? KIRK
you are reading with your emotions. That again is not what I’m saying. Of course you can say whatever you think, but the short little one liners lately make it sound to me like you are putting down those who disagreed with you by referencing things that were never really said. You have indicated twice that we said that Logan=Ohman and that just is not what was said or meant. I believe that PT feels the same way at least to an extent.
I still do not believe that anybody is saying that they would not want Ohman if the Braves would get him. Even though Dave has assured us a number of times that they are not interested, I too would like them to reapproach him, but it isn’t gonna happen I guess.
Your statement that the Logan=Ohman guys were quiet I found irritating because there were no Logan=Ohman guys that I saw.
I’m not trying to censor your opinions or your right to express them, heaven knows that I express some unpopular one at times.
If there has been a mis-communication and you were truly not taking a shot at PT or myself, then I apologize.
Steve McP, (12:05) you’re not going to believe this, but when we were kids, in the good old USA, we used to play a game called, McP. Tell me how your 5795 game went, and then I’ll tell you about our McP game. I’m thinking that our McP game was nastier.
spotts do you really not know why it was kept on the duke game?? Some kind of bias I would say. I am an ACC guy and just can’t stand the bias sometimes
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BB5795
March 26th, 2009
10:00 pm
Is it just me or what? About 2 of every 3 of my posts are out there in cyber-space. I had some very creative stuff on those. Oh well, someday the inhabitants from the planet, QZXaaB, will appreciate it.
18 Wheels of Love
March 26th, 2009
10:01 pm
I just lizzed myself.
Snuffy
March 26th, 2009
10:02 pm
“Schafer will be sent to AAA to start the season.
Placing Jordan on the major league team sends him the message that: “We think you’re a wonderful player and can’t wait to see you play for the Braves.” By sending Schafer to AAA, Wren (or more likely Bobby) can sit him down and say “Jordan, you’ve got some unbelievable talent. I think one of the main reasons you’re being sent down is your tendency to over-swing with two strikes and risk the strikeout. While you’re in Gwinnett, I want you to work on your plate coverage. Work on defending the plate with two strikes. Don’t lose your aggressiveness as a hitter, just focus a bit more on cutting back the strikeouts and defending the plate. If you can work on this for us, there may be a spot for you out in centerfield in a month or two in Atlanta.”
Yeah, when the Braves did the same thing to Frenchy last year, he was gone for what?……five days? LOL Yeah, that’s the kind of thing the Braves do. The Braves have never given a rat’s azz about strikeouts. Frenchy and Andruw and any number of recent Braves have proven that.
KC
March 26th, 2009
10:03 pm
PWHjort, well I consider Ibanez a slight upgrade in Left because, while he doesn’t hit for as much power as Burrell, he is more consistent, and is a better fielder. Not a big difference though, overall.
Pretty much the same team as last year. And again, without the punching bag in ATL they had last year, they’ll have to raise their level of play if they’re going to win 90 this year.
Salamander
March 26th, 2009
10:07 pm
Also, I wonder if there is a part of Frank Wren that wishes that he didn’t resign Glavine now that we’ve all seen that Tommy Hanson is ready for the Majors? – Robert(Chipper Is The Best)
No. He knew Hanson was ready (or extremely close) months ago, hence why he wouldn’t trade Hanson to San Diego in the Peavy deal. According to a DOB story a few months back, Wren went up to Hanson in person to tell him he wouldn’t be traded while he was in Arizona. That should tell you precisely how much stock Wren put in Hanson way before ST. Keeping Hanson on a regular pitching schedule (and hungry for the majors) in Gwinnett was the right move. Not to mention the obvious part of delaying his arb-eligible clock.
BB5795
March 26th, 2009
10:07 pm
I’m sorry cabravesfan (9:59), I forgot you were still there, and you’re part Swedish. Well, the truth is, I use the heavy stuff when I need the heavy stuff. The rest of the time, all I listen to is ABBA.
PTBNL
March 26th, 2009
10:15 pm
KC, just because the Braves have solidified the team this year and it is much less likely that the whole pitching staff (it seemed) will totally crumble because of injuries, it does not guarantee that the Braves will fare any better against the Phillies. Even when the Braves were winning the division there have been teams that have had their number — teams that were not any better than (usually not as good as) the Braves. I certainly hope we are not their doormat this year, but I want to see it before I breathe easy about it. (I don’t really get up tight about it, but I sure do wish we would do better against them.)
Rob from SC
March 26th, 2009
10:17 pm
DOB
Tell Will Ohman to get off his high horse, swallow his pride and call the Braves with a reasonable offer. He needs us as much as we need him or he can go suffer with the Padres.
BB5795
March 26th, 2009
10:17 pm
cabravesfan, now that I got all apologiletic (is that a word?), what the heck do you know about “Child In Time”, anyway? Lew, feel free to chip in anytime you’d like.
kirkinga
March 26th, 2009
10:26 pm
I think Ohman is worth $1.5 million/year+incentives. That is reportedly what he’s down to asking.
I think his performance last season is enough for Wren to justify his resigning.It may well turn out that what we have is enough. Ohman has handled the situational role effectively. We do not know if anyone currently on the roster can do so.
I’m afraid without the situational guy, Boyer and Acosta are going to have to pitch more because Bobby will have to use a righthander where he could’ve used a leftie if he had one that could get outs like Ohman did last season.
There really is something weird about Ohman remaining unsigned at this point.Perhaps he’s betting he can get more if he waits until the end of ST?
cabravesfan
March 26th, 2009
10:28 pm
BB5795-
Gotta admit- I just youtubed it…barely made it through the intro…nearly died of pain and suffering
and yes, apologetic is a word, you just spelled it wrong:)
N Nine (eta10)
March 26th, 2009
10:33 pm
Kirkinga____
to be exact on Ohman: Will Ohman seeks a one-year, $1.75MM deal with easily-reachable incentives for another million. He also prefers the West Coast
BTW_ I believe a team will sign him up beofre the season starts
Also MLBTR says Ohman to Pirates is possible:the Pirates have ramped up their interest in free agent lefty Will Ohman. The Bucs made an offer Saturday for one year plus an option, and Ohman’s agent countered yesterday. Ohman’s still looking for a $2MM salary. Dialogue is ongoing with the Pirates
cabravesfan
March 26th, 2009
10:36 pm
He also prefers the West Coast
Wow- did the Pirates move to out west and not tell anyone?
Yojii
March 26th, 2009
10:37 pm
Now translating remark of Kenshin Kawakami concerning Bobby Cox. As always being verbatim:
“Cox-san is superior maestro. Immobile like mountain but more like sea. Is swearing many oaths such as words not being printed in newspaper. Always seeking players who die their spirit for teams. If managing American Motor Car companies then Honda have no lunch!”
BB5795
March 26th, 2009
10:38 pm
You just youtubed it? So you were knocking it without ever seeing it? It’s like Anders, it’ll grow on you. Some time, when you feel a little more open-minded, try a few more bars.
I spelled it wrong??!! I wasn’t even close.
How about that group, ABBA?!!!
Schafer Obliterator
March 26th, 2009
10:40 pm
I hit, I steal, I power ‘em out at home plate, I crush balls to the opposite field
I am better than Diaz, Frenchy, Josh, Blanco, Prado and Infante and
I am expected to go to AAA…….. DREAM ON
I am the greatest !
Frankie Knuckles
March 26th, 2009
10:41 pm
Just reading some previous posts – Melissa gets on the blog and you guys are like drunk frat boys at a keg party at 4 am when there’s only one girl left.
Rob from SC
March 26th, 2009
10:41 pm
maybe we can get John Grabow then
BB5795
March 26th, 2009
10:41 pm
Yojii, again you’re too late. DOB just told us that about 15 minutes ago. (only the Asians understood)
Frankie Knuckles
March 26th, 2009
10:43 pm
I don’t think Schafer can be denied at this point. Question is, how do we get anything in return for the track star?
BB5795
March 26th, 2009
10:45 pm
It sounds to me like Frankie Knuckles is upset that he didn’t join in sooner. He figures he’s way back in line.
Madonna's Chin Hair
March 26th, 2009
10:50 pm
BB5795, you are starting to sound like a creepy uncle who want to play horsey with the little girls. Please stop before I toss my macro-biotic dinner.
N Nine (eta10)
March 26th, 2009
10:50 pm
Frankie Knuckles__ I think our part Swedish Love was here also!
BB5795__ What about Roman Gal ?
dogsbrekky
March 26th, 2009
10:50 pm
Time for us Bravos to get tough. If Schafer is clearly the best CF then send Blanco to AAA and waiver Josh A at the last minute.
If JA is not the best player for CF then why care about a meaningless loss of personnel……… the extra excitement and $$ Schafer will bring right away will pay big dividends for the psyche of us fans who MAY buy tickets and shirts (etc) this year.
Ride your profits and cut your losses quickly… FWIW Schafer is uber quick around the bases and probably faster than JA
Doc Holiday
March 26th, 2009
10:52 pm
Im gonna make a prediction……….
Braves will end up the season 1st in pitching and 1st in hitting……among top 3 in runs scored and will make the playoff……..not sure if they can go from 4th to 1st in 1 year, but they will make the playoffs.
spotts
March 26th, 2009
10:54 pm
Maybe if I changed my display name to a girl’s name I’d get more attention
Frankie Knuckles
March 26th, 2009
10:54 pm
BB5795 – I aint above seconds my man
spotts
March 26th, 2009
10:55 pm
Holy crap, Doc….anything else? How bout 9 Gold Gloves and an MVP and RoTY too?
KC
March 26th, 2009
10:55 pm
PTBNL, NOTHING is guaranteed. We can’t predict the future. We can only talk about likelihoods right now. With that in mind, I have to say that it is EXTRAORDINARILY unlikely that the Braves/Phillies will be anywhere near that lopsided (16-3) again. Even if the Braves had NOT improved their team significantly, another season series that lopsided would be unlikely. But with a vastly improved Braves team… I’d bet my Warren Spahn rookie card (if I had one) against it.
Again, nothing is impossible, but as I see it, the season series could go either way this year. And it is highly unlikely that either team (the Braves or Phillies) will absolutely own the other, as the Phillies owned the Braves last year.
cabravesfan
March 26th, 2009
10:55 pm
ABBA, not so much…I am nore of a Metallica girl (agree with DOB re: Ride the Lightening…great album)
I heard enough of “Child in Time” to know if it ever grew on me I’d be concerned
gotta run for a little while…be back later:)
Doc Holiday
March 26th, 2009
10:56 pm
Starters will lead the league in IP. Staff will lead the NL in ERA.
BB5795
March 26th, 2009
10:57 pm
I’m thinking, is it possible, scoots just showed up as Madonna’s Chin Hair (10:50)? What the hell are you talking about? Is there any other of you guys that have a clue?
dogsbrekky
March 26th, 2009
10:58 pm
Agnetha Falkstog – speaking of ABBA, that lady could sing !
Mark
March 26th, 2009
10:58 pm
They will lock up Hanson for another year down the line as a result of this too right?
Doc Holiday
March 26th, 2009
10:58 pm
spotts,
No, no gold gloves nor MVP nor cy youngs. Pure team work.
BB5795
March 26th, 2009
10:59 pm
N Nine (10:50), I can take a hint.
Big Boobs Salamander
March 26th, 2009
10:59 pm
Spotts: (10:54 and 10:55) – made me laugh twice!
Maybe I’ll get some hot cyber action with these hanging out of my digital shirt.
kirkinga
March 26th, 2009
11:00 pm
Thanks N Nine, that’s still reasonable I think given his effectiveness.
I’ve stopped placing a lot of weight on where players reportedly prefer to play. We were told the Braves were a preference of Peavy’s and we all know how that turned out.
Then there was all this talk about how Sabathia wanted to play on West Coast, and well, he’s a Yankee now. So, I wouldn’t be scared off by that West Coast thing.
I suggested trading away Logan and O’Flaherty and that $805k right there!
I bet if the Braves offered @million he’d take it.I’d at least like to see them make an attempt though I’m not holding my breath.
THE BEAR Illegitimi non carborundum
March 26th, 2009
11:00 pm
“Eric from MO
March 26th, 2009
8:18 pm
The Bear his current contract has nothing to do with the trade. That contract was not signed when he was acquired.”
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I am fully aware of his contract and when he got it. Only after turning in a good performance in 07 did the Braves sign him to the two year monstrosity he is under now (its second year). That was a mistake in my opinion and I am sure I am not alone.
Soriano worked a good deal (or his agent did) when he signed that two year contract.
What I reported was that the people in Seattle said he was either perpetually sick or injured and many of them were mysteries. I think we are now seeing what they were talking about. I don’t know why the man doesn’t seem to want to work hard and participate but if he wants a career after 2009 he sure as he11 better get to cracking. Who is going to want to sign him for anything if he turns in another year like 2008?
BB5795
March 26th, 2009
11:01 pm
Frankie Knuckles (10:54), I apologize, I stand corrected!
jane spotts
March 26th, 2009
11:02 pm
Can some young man explain the infield fly rule to me?
BB5795
March 26th, 2009
11:03 pm
spotts (10:55), you never know until you try. But, how will you feel in the morning?
KC
March 26th, 2009
11:03 pm
Doc Holiday, buckle in… I’m sure you’re about to be lambasted for that prediction. But I think you could be right.
I think the Braves will, in all likelihood, finish near the top (of not AT the top) of the league in ERA and hitting, and at least top 5 or 6 in the league in runs scored.
This Braves team is likely to hit for a fairly high team average. Not a lot of homers… but more than many people expect, and they’ll have a chance to lead the league in doubles this year. If Francoeur bounces back as it appears he will, the Braves have a number of BIG doubles hitters in this lineup. And that is especially significant when you consider how well these Braves hitters hit with RISP.
Escobar, McCann, Chipper, Kotchman, KJ, and G.Anderson… all hit very well with RISP last year. And if Francoeur and Diaz get back to pre-2008 form – or better (as it appears they will)… you can add two more players to the list of good clutch hitters.
Frank (the nutty professor) Wren
March 26th, 2009
11:07 pm
Well, the season is almost ready to begin. I am most proud of the fact that my Nortron 5000 cyber-hitting unit is new and improved this year. It is not only more life-like (it spits! simulated saliva, of course) it has more useful auxiliary functions. It has a new chip that will allow it to prepare the tax returns of the other players while it waits to pinch hit. Chipper loves that!
Shamus Thacker
March 26th, 2009
11:08 pm
When Kurt Cobain and mates were touring, ABBA was their collective listening choice most of the time.
Fillies Feeling Frightfully Philharmonic
March 26th, 2009
11:09 pm
Your 2 loogy options are poor and will get lit up by even the lefties in the NL.
It might be a mistake not to at least try young Jo Reyes in your ‘pen.
The Schafer boy is easily your best CF option and very exciting to watch
BB5795
March 26th, 2009
11:09 pm
jane spotts (11:02), I don’t know about anybody else, but that’s my FAVORITE entry of the day! Great wit!!!
KC
March 26th, 2009
11:11 pm
Doc Holiday, they might not win any (seems to be fairly political), but the Braves will have a few Gold Glove candidates. Francoeur won one in ‘07, and Escobar and Kotchman are both GG caliber.
PTBNL
March 26th, 2009
11:11 pm
KC, I wasn’t busting on you. More than anything expressing my disappointment about how terribly we played against them last year. It was like the Braves turned into a Little League team every time we faced them…. even before the decimation of our pitching staff.
Sure, the odds were against it happening last year, much less this year. But like I said, I want to see it… not depend on the odds. lol
Razzle
March 26th, 2009
11:14 pm
overtures of loobjob@9:28
spotts
March 26th, 2009
11:14 pm
BB5795
I dunno…”Big Boobs” Salamander takes the cake for me
Anders
March 26th, 2009
11:20 pm
Bear – Soriano’s agent accepting the second year at $6.1 mil was the tell in that poker hand. Why would he give away Soriano’s first year of FA for $6.1 mil when he was assumed to be the Braves closer? Closers were going for a minimum of $ 10 mil per at that point. He left a lot of money on the table in the second year to pick up maybe an extra $1 mil in the first year. Given Soriano’s elbow history there was absolutely no reason for Wren to give him that extension. The Braves thought they were getting a bargain and got burned. Even if he does pitch this year as a set up guy he’s terribly expensive.
I’m telling you, the guy knows he’s damaged goods and can’t string together two months of effective pitching. He took the money and ran. At least Hampton wanted to pitch.
Did DOB ever give the update on Soriano that he mentioned in the blog?
BB5795
March 26th, 2009
11:21 pm
spotts (11:14), I’m sure you are just being modest. You may have sent me into a serious mode now, where I may have to talk some BB.
Nicholas Cage
March 26th, 2009
11:21 pm
I’ve discovered that the last NUMBER in the sequence is Jo Jo Reyes’s 2009 earned run average!
Frankie Knuckles
March 26th, 2009
11:21 pm
KC – Doesn’t the pen appear to be an impeding problem? I love the Braves as much as the next guy on this blog, but I’ve always thought of 09 as a phase of our rebuilding process. But we do have a lot of potential. Would our fans from other teams “sleep with the enemy” if they weren’t a little concerned.
Braves Fan 79 – you gotta leave that somewhere else.
Anders
March 26th, 2009
11:22 pm
Jane Spotts – Very,very funny!
Tim in NC
March 26th, 2009
11:23 pm
The Gwinnett Braves will be in Durham April 13th – 15th. There’s a chance Hanson may pitch against Price in that series. Possibly the second time through the rotation for the ace of each club.
spotts
March 26th, 2009
11:24 pm
I hope you mean basketball
I desparately need to go to bed. But this freaking Mizzou/Memphis game has me up. I have Memphis in the NC game…
spotts
March 26th, 2009
11:27 pm
And it looks like my Jane ploy didn’t work. I guess Melissa was just younger and sexier
TnBrian
March 26th, 2009
11:33 pm
Look for a new Brave soon. Wren is probably hot on the trail for a lefty in the pen, I’ll betcha. Especially now with Soriano’s health ? and Logan and O’Flahtery apparantly looking lost out there, that pen is almost gauranteed to be on his mind. Someone mentioned earlier about Chip Carey thinking Atl. will trade for a bat. HUH? I don’t think that would even be on Wren’s mind until maybe the summer and that’s only if they’re in contention and they don’t have to trade a ton. Maybe he did mean later in the summer, but that’s still doubtful, I think.
BB5795
March 26th, 2009
11:35 pm
Anders, it’s good to hear from you. I’m glad you’re keeping up(11:22). I’m glad I have a second opinion. Even if it’s from a Met fan. I told him it’s funny. My only objection to what you said to Bear (11:20), was how can you fault the Braves wasting money, when (do you really want to get me started?) Omaya has spent 50% more and has received 50% less, than the Braves have. I know I’m prejudiced, but I believe our 92 million $ payroll, will kick the hell out of your 142 million $ this year. As far as the future is concerned, hey you really don’t wnnt to hear that sad news, do you? (see guys, I told you I could get serious, too.)
Anders
March 26th, 2009
11:36 pm
TnBrian – What about $’s for these now needed relievers? They barely had money to bring Glavine back.
BB5795
March 26th, 2009
11:38 pm
spotts, next time, lose the last name. We all know it.
spotts
March 26th, 2009
11:38 pm
That was Melissa who mentioned Chip Caray
Anders
March 26th, 2009
11:38 pm
Wow- Villanova up by 13 over Coach K and the fellas. The suicide prevention hotline in NC must be burning up.
TnBrian
March 26th, 2009
11:38 pm
Anders, we know! Soriano has been pretty much a bust up to this point. No need to keep putting salt in that wound. I like Rafy and think he can easily be as good, if not better, than Putz. But, health is the problem. As far as bust, how about all the busts your Mets have piled up over the years? I bet it beats out ours by a long shot.
David O'Brien
March 26th, 2009
11:39 pm
TexasBrave, you watching Mizzou-Memphis?
Frankie Knuckles
March 26th, 2009
11:39 pm
spotts, tomorrows Friday – enjoy the tourney kid
spotts
March 26th, 2009
11:39 pm
BB5795 – Except when some young Braves fan named Jane actually posts on here, and you guys run her off with inappropriate slurs
spotts
March 26th, 2009
11:40 pm
I’ll start enjoying it when Duke and Memphis stop getting shellacked
Anders
March 26th, 2009
11:41 pm
BB5795 (An old inmate number or something?) – I believe we were discussing the Soriano contract. Not sure how you morphed that into my GM spent better than your GM? That said, Minaya had a better year than AIG -you’re up.
TnBrian
March 26th, 2009
11:42 pm
Well, Anders.. the Braves have the talent that a team would want and could possibly trade a guy like Grabow(just throwin out a name) and pay some his contract. Depends on the talent, but nobody really even knows for sure how much they have to spend, not even you Anders.
BB5795
March 26th, 2009
11:44 pm
Yeah, you’re right, spotts. I don’t see any way around it. She seems doomed! However, I will work on it.
Anders
March 26th, 2009
11:44 pm
TnBrian -Speaking of busts – How’s DollyLand working out in the old volunteer state?
David O'Brie
March 26th, 2009
11:44 pm
Did DOB ever give the update on Soriano that he mentioned in the blog? — Anders
No, DOB did not get that update. DOB and Bowman asked Cox about the cuts and about Lowe and about the left-handers struggling and about center field after the game, and DOB realized when they went upstairs that everyone had forgotten to ask about Soriano.
But earlier in the day, when a reporter approached Soriano to ask a question, Soriano waved a finger, sort of like Dikembe Mutombo, as he headed to the trainer’s room, not to be seen again before the clubhouse closed.
Thanks for checking on DOB, Anders.
picked last in gym class
March 26th, 2009
11:45 pm
Just random comparisons…ab hits ave. tb sb/cs k’s bba-r
Justin Upton 42 8 .190 14 1/1 13 n/a
Jay Bruce 44 12 .273 20 0/1 13 n/a
Jacoby Ellsbury 43 10 .233 17 1/1 3 n/a
Jordan Schafer 47 18 .383 27 5/0 12 42
Colby Rasmus 63 17 .270 25 3/0 20 3
Camron Maybin 51 17 .333 24 2/1 12 8
Dexter Fowler 53 16 .302 22 5/2 14 15
Andrew McCutchen 60 15 .250 25 2/0 16 33
Austin Jackson 36 12 .333 24 2/0 12 36
These guys are all the outfield draft class of 2005.The top three guys are in the big leagues and the others are knocking on the door.The number to the far right is the prospect ranking by baseball america. Looks like Schafer compares favorably to all of these guys at this point in spring training. Comparing any of these guys to Josh Anderson is insulting.
Chop Chop
March 26th, 2009
11:46 pm
I don’t mind seeing Duke lose. My eyes get blinded when I see all those white guys out there at once. Scary.
Memphis is shattering what’s left of the broken glass on my bracket. My brother’s wife is a big Memphis fan. He’s sort of adopted the team, too. I’m sure they’re beating their heads against walls tonight. That “40 Minutes of Hell” stuff can do that to ya.
TnBrian
March 26th, 2009
11:49 pm
Anders, you mean DollyWood? My God, that place sucks! Me and my girlfriend like Gatlinburg but only stay way up in the cabins. What made you think of that? You know, Chattanooga is a beautiful place..you should visit some time.
Chop Chop
March 26th, 2009
11:50 pm
DOB,
Nice to see the conceded ***hole make an appearance. I think you owed Anders one. Dude’s been doing his Whack-A-Mole imitation for too long without getting hit with the Bop Gun.
Frankie Knuckles
March 26th, 2009
11:51 pm
Anders – answer – not well. Did you ever see the Carson show where he tells Dolly he would give a months pay to peek under her blouse. Classic.
muffin
March 26th, 2009
11:52 pm
nice comps. on schafer he is on his way to a stellar career. draft class of 05 may be a classic.
TnBrian
March 26th, 2009
11:52 pm
My dad finally broke his habit on gambling on those college BB games, or at least that’s what we’re told. Wondered why he would all the sudden be broke.
Rafael Soriano
March 26th, 2009
11:56 pm
I made me money-now I take meself bauk to Dominican to live de life of luxury!! hahaha
Anders
March 26th, 2009
11:58 pm
Wow DOB – You have a bet on Duke or something?
I asked Bear because believe it or not I haven’t been on the blog much at all today and didn’t take the time to read 700 posts before 11:00 tonight. Plus you weren’t on here when I asked – so I thought “hey, maybe someone on here can tell me if DOB updated the crew on Soriano like he said he might?” Now only after your drippingly sarcastic response do I realize just how offensive that must have been to you.
Next time I’ll address it to you, hope you read it while I’m still on here, and bless me with a response which I’m sure will read something like “Anders, I only posted what Wren said about Soriano three hours ago and we discussed it for the next two hours!”
I’m not sure who’s crankier ? Soriano when he’s injured or you when you sleep on that damn chair.
Doc Holiday
March 26th, 2009
11:58 pm
Hey KC,
You are right………I forgot about JF…….he might be a good candidate.
Maybe Chipper if he can stay healthy. Kotchman?
Im ready and still waiting for that cavalry to attack me……….send them in.
spotts
March 27th, 2009
12:00 am
aha….bravo, Anders. Very funny
Steve McP
March 27th, 2009
12:01 am
DOB – you sound like Kenny Powers in that last entry. The old talking about yourself in the 3rd person bit is really quite weird.
TnBrian
March 27th, 2009
12:02 am
If Pit. does sign Ohman it could mean Grabow might be traded for prospects or whatever they’d want. It’d make sense for them to that if they’re looking for youngsters. We got em..wonder how much Grabow is making?
BB5795
March 27th, 2009
12:02 am
Anders (11:41), you’re on to me. When I was imprisoned, for maiming Mets fans, it was a choice of 5795 or 6986. Not one to be a hyprocrite, I chose the former. Sorry about spelling your GM’s name wrong. Between the NCAA’s on TV, and trying to cook dinner, I’m losing some of my focus. Unfortunately, I don’t start off with a surplus. And, pretty soon, everybody will forget your GM’s name. Comparing your GM is to AIG, is a work of art. In that capacity, yeah, he’s the man!
spotts
March 27th, 2009
12:04 am
1:30 left in the Memphis game, and CBS still has it on Duke getting creamed?
Steve McP
March 27th, 2009
12:05 am
When I lived in the UK we used to play a cricket team called 5795, turns out they were formed by a group of guys from a Synagogue and that was the year that they were formed in the Jewish calendar.
Anders
March 27th, 2009
12:05 am
TnBrian – Grabow = $2.3 mil
Chop Chop
March 27th, 2009
12:08 am
Gotta shoot free throws better than Memphis did tonight. Ain’t that right, Rock Chalk DOB?
I think Calipari will go to Kentucky. Seems like a natural for him.
spotts
March 27th, 2009
12:09 am
Is the Memphis/Mizzou game on a different channel or something? Why has CBS kept it on Nova/Duke?
nolie
March 27th, 2009
12:13 am
olie, what the heck is wrong with you? I’m not allowed to say the same thing I said last week, and during the entire offseason…resign Ohman? I can’t say that I’m worried about the situational leftie spot? What kind of crap is that? KIRK
you are reading with your emotions. That again is not what I’m saying. Of course you can say whatever you think, but the short little one liners lately make it sound to me like you are putting down those who disagreed with you by referencing things that were never really said. You have indicated twice that we said that Logan=Ohman and that just is not what was said or meant. I believe that PT feels the same way at least to an extent.
I still do not believe that anybody is saying that they would not want Ohman if the Braves would get him. Even though Dave has assured us a number of times that they are not interested, I too would like them to reapproach him, but it isn’t gonna happen I guess.
Your statement that the Logan=Ohman guys were quiet I found irritating because there were no Logan=Ohman guys that I saw.
I’m not trying to censor your opinions or your right to express them, heaven knows that I express some unpopular one at times.
If there has been a mis-communication and you were truly not taking a shot at PT or myself, then I apologize.
BB5795
March 27th, 2009
12:13 am
Steve McP, (12:05) you’re not going to believe this, but when we were kids, in the good old USA, we used to play a game called, McP. Tell me how your 5795 game went, and then I’ll tell you about our McP game. I’m thinking that our McP game was nastier.
spotts
March 27th, 2009
12:20 am
awesome…glad I stayed up so I could watch my bracket collapse live instead of just reading about it in the morning.
vabravesfan
March 27th, 2009
12:27 am
spotts do you really not know why it was kept on the duke game?? Some kind of bias I would say. I am an ACC guy and just can’t stand the bias sometimes
Roman Gal
March 27th, 2009
12:30 am
The rest of the time, all I listen to is ABBA. BB5795
Isn’t that band like from the 70’s? And weren’t they really bad in the 70’s?
Roman Gal
March 27th, 2009
12:34 am
Bravesfan79, there’s no need to start the racial stuff up again.