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Buffalo NY Braves Fan

March 23rd, 2009
3:06 pm

DOB, I know I’ve asked a few times, have yet to see a response however.

What happened to Cody Johnson? Why is he not being hyped up like Freeman and Heyward? What’s the deal on him?

Random

March 23rd, 2009
3:07 pm

MFin04 (12:56 pm): “Is it not possible to go with 6 in the bullpen…and have our 5th starter be a long reliever…glavine…jojo…campillo? That would open a spot up for a young outfielder….”

Yeah — a spot on the bench. Of what use is that?

I mean, what would be the point, other than to avoid a tough decision?

roman88

March 23rd, 2009
3:07 pm

good info tomas, it’ll be interesting to see what wren does.

mbatl

March 23rd, 2009
3:07 pm

Ohman is reaching the point where he would have to work hard to be ready opening day for anyone. If he’s indeed got offers “on the table” he’d probably be wise to accept one.

As to Schilling, agree with DOB: 216 wins in 20 seasons? He was very good post-season, but I wouldn’t make any assumptions about him making the HOF. (and I doubt guys like Maddux, et al, are too worried about who enters with them… I think that’s a non-issue).

dogsbrekky

March 23rd, 2009
3:08 pm

Schilling is NOT a close HOF choice, if he is why isn’t Tommy John and Bert Blyleven in, people cannot stand Schilling, his numbers are average in comparison to many (outside the post-season) and I have already heard media discussions that he is NOT a HOF…..

dogsbrekky

March 23rd, 2009
3:09 pm

A question for all – IS Pedro a HOFer?

N Nine (eta13)

March 23rd, 2009
3:09 pm

Nice top ten JPHunt!! Gotta love the sunny spring times!

mbatl

March 23rd, 2009
3:11 pm

course there is the bloody sock game… that might be worth 25% of the vote alone.

Schafer Obliterator

March 23rd, 2009
3:12 pm

I would crush Schilling if he pitched to me !

dogsbrekky (watching Escape from NY)

March 23rd, 2009
3:15 pm

A dopey question ? If for some reason we want to trade Josh Anderson and then start Schafer, can anyone outside Gregor play CF (DIAZ ??)

richbrave

March 23rd, 2009
3:15 pm

dogsbrekky:

Yes, and you could put it to JoJO like this – “We’ve got no room in the starting rotation for you right now, but as a reliefer you can take OHMAN’s slot and stay with the 25 man. What do you say?” What would YOU say? No?

roman88

March 23rd, 2009
3:15 pm

good point with jojo, and insurance if needed to start.

Bubdylan

March 23rd, 2009
3:17 pm

dogsbrekky & richbrave, I’m pretty sure Bobby has shot down every whisper of suggestion that Jo Jo join the pen.

dogsbrekky (watching Escape from NY)

March 23rd, 2009
3:18 pm

Richbrave – I have been very -ve on JoJO but then I remembered watching a young Glavine go what 7-18 in his 2nd year after a shocking 1st year, and from what everyone is telling me JoJO has improved dramatically

Also, I am thinking BP because he is great for 1-3 innings and then goes all “Ollie Perez” on us, be perfect for a LH long role in the pen and maybe a LH specialty guy against Utley, the fat 1st base dude and the ‘mucils lefties like Church, Murphy and co.

3rd point, if Tommy G or Kamikaze are sore and can only go 3-4 innings on a bad start having JoJo there is like another good starter

dogsbrekky (watching Escape from NY)

March 23rd, 2009
3:19 pm

Hi Bubdylan – how u doing mate ?

DAP

March 23rd, 2009
3:19 pm

if shcilling gets in to the hall, i think it will be by the skin of his teeth. his strongest stat is over 3000 Ks, but that along with his 216 wins and 3.46 ERA doesnt make him a sure thing.

Darlington

March 23rd, 2009
3:20 pm

Going way back up to the Jim Powell comment (radio play by play guy), he was here in Columbia for a good many years working USC baseball and teh local sports talk show. He’s a great guy and a huge Braves fan (from way back). He was working here when the Braves won the 95 Series. Glad to have him on the Braves broadcast.

Andrew

March 23rd, 2009
3:20 pm

DOB,if the braves make a trade is it going to be for prospects or can we actually get somebody to help the team this year?

roman88

March 23rd, 2009
3:20 pm

what are pedro’s number’s anyway?

Hillbilly

March 23rd, 2009
3:20 pm

DOB,

Do any of the players still go fishing on off days? Seems like I remember you mentioning something about a handful of the guys plus Bobby Dews running off to fish in a nearby pond a couple of years back. That’s the report I want to see: BABIPs and WHIPs be-damned. Who’s got the bragging rights on the water? 8)

DAP

March 23rd, 2009
3:21 pm

dogsbrekky infante can play CF.

winterville

March 23rd, 2009
3:22 pm

Thanks DOB, I guess no news is good news on the Kawakami front.

Random

March 23rd, 2009
3:22 pm

Shamus Thacker (1:33 pm): “BTW, anybody know what kinda food grows gray hair over several months? Whatever it is, I got some, and plenty of it…”

Sure it’s not your dead gerbil? They the hair and nails keep growing for a while.

Or it could be a meat loaf, especially if the hair’s got green roots.

Bubdylan

March 23rd, 2009
3:22 pm

I’m doing good, dogsbrekky, thanks for asking.

DAP

March 23rd, 2009
3:23 pm

pedro is much more likely to make it in than schilling. a much lower career ERA and three cy youngs to go with his over 3000 Ks. he has won two fewer games than schilling, though.

PWHjort

March 23rd, 2009
3:23 pm

DOB, the fact that he never won a Cy Young won’t be held against him. In 2001 he pitched 256 2/3 innings with a 2.98 ERA (156 ERA+) going 22-6 with 293 K’s and only 39 walks. That wins a Cy Young in any normal season. He didn’t deserve it that year because Randy Johnson almost struck out 400 batters, but it was a “Cy Young Type Season” as the statheads like to say. In 2002 he went 23-7 with a 3.23 ERA (142 ERA+) with 316 K’s and 33 walks in 259 1/3 innings. Again, Randy Johnson deserved the award, but this was also a “Cy Young Type Season”. In 2004 he went 21-6 with a 3.26 ERA (150 ERA+) with 203 K’s and 33 walks in 226 2/3 innings. Pitching in the tougher AL, mind you. Johan Santana deserved the Cy Young, but log another Cy Young type season for Curt Schilling. In John Smoltz’s Cy Young season he went 24-8 with a 2.94 ERA (149 ERA+) with 276 K’s and 55 walks in 253 2/3 innings. Schilling’s 2001 season featured more IP, a better ERA+, more K’s, and fewer BB’s than Smoltz’s 1996 Cy Young season. Winning the actual award doesn’t matter nearly as much as having a Cy Young type season. To intelligent voters, at least. Schilling had 3 of those, regardless of whether he ever won one.

ncscoots

March 23rd, 2009
3:24 pm

Darlington, that’s the same Jim Powell?!? Son-of-a-gun.

As you might guess, I haven’t heard him since he joined the Braves, LOL.

PWHjort

March 23rd, 2009
3:25 pm

And Schilling should’ve finished 3rd in 1997 ahead of our Denny Naegel.

dogsbrekky (watching Escape from NY)

March 23rd, 2009
3:25 pm

I spent 4 hours this morning in Central Park and had the coolest experience (almost a heart attack)

My dog and I watch the birds in the Ramble area and we were sitting on a bench watching 2 squirrels eat when a huge female “red tail hawk” attacked….. biatch flew right at us with her talons extended and just missed the 2 varmits on the ground……

This picture was from a few weeks ago

http://picasaweb.google.com/NeilEmond/March2009#5310155723611100818

roman88

March 23rd, 2009
3:28 pm

couldn’t have happened but how cool would it have been if maddox, glav, and smoltzie all went together?

BlawgDawg

March 23rd, 2009
3:28 pm

Pedro will be in the HOF, not first ballot though I would think.

And as for Schilling, he’s borderline HOF at best. I think he’ll eventually get in, but no way is he a sure thing.

Doc Holiday

March 23rd, 2009
3:28 pm

I think we should all relax a bit. It is clear to me that the organization wants to compete. Not only because they signed 3 above average starters and Glavine, but because they also got Anderson. The only reason for Hanson to still be around is, that Braves want to make sure even the 5th spot is gonna be filled with the best option, which is not automatically the best pitcher. Meaning, Hanson could be better than Glavine right now, but Glavine might be better for the team as we speak. That would be a very deep and complex discussion maybe even worth a whole blog.

You could also say that an open job at CF says a lot.

My opinion is that this is not true……..CF job is already given to Anderson cause the only way out of it is losing him, so Braves are only saying the job is not given so both this players give 150% effort and we get to know their true potential.

Kind of same scenario is that of Glavine. I think the only chance that Hanson has is if Glavine starts speaking of pain and discomfort, other than that…….The job is Glavines. But that might not be as bad as you might think. You will still have plan B (Hanson) at AAA. If you give the job to Hanson what would plan B be? Reyes? Maybe, but I like him as plan C better or Morton.

So in few words……..if Glavine and Anderson can do an slightly above average job, they will be on the roster. but I dont think either of them will end the season in our uniform. Its a matter of time, and we are not talking so much time here.

Cyrus

March 23rd, 2009
3:32 pm

If we do trade Prado like some people here believe we will do then why not trade for say Keith Lockhart — remember him no offense whatsoever none zilch — DOB since your not in the sun — Whats your opinion on Prado and his status on this team ? I think he stays he is a solid infield backup for all positions and probably can play the outfield in a pinch if need be.

DAP

March 23rd, 2009
3:32 pm

PWHjort

the schilling stats you quoted highlight one of the problems with schilling. his ERA is a tad high. the years johnson won the cy young, his ERA was always in the mid to low 2s. schilling only did that once as a starter, as thus his career ERA is quite a bit higher than johnson’s (or pedro’s) which hurts his HOF status.

and i think cy young awards do matter. if youve never won the cy young, it probably means you were never the absolute best, which is a big deal to voters, i think. thats what helps pedro. he was heads and shoulders above everyone else for a few years. clearly the #1 absolute best pitcher.

Bubdylan

March 23rd, 2009
3:32 pm

dogsbrekky, awesome pics. Are all those Central Park? Love the Alice in Wonderland scultpture.

dogsbrekky (watching Escape from NY)

March 23rd, 2009
3:32 pm

Doc Holliday – as a trader I find it hard to comprehend the devotion we may have to Josh Anderson (do not get me wrong I do not mind him). We clearly have a better player we should be pushing in young Schafer. The thoughts of saving some bucks on a few years of arb (if he is good we will lock him up like McCann) should be banished in favor of the extra following he may bring as a local lad when he does well….. yes / no ??

Doc Holiday

March 23rd, 2009
3:33 pm

If something is gonna keep Schilling from getting to the HOF its going to be all the time he lost due to injuries. He has more talent that some of the guys that are already in.

Random

March 23rd, 2009
3:35 pm

dogsbrekky (3:00 pm): “CRICKET and baseball players – Chipper is probably too injury prone as to leg injuries and cricket is a leg intensive sport…

“I think the best prospects would be guys like Jimmy Rollins, Yunel Escobar, catchers and great speedy OFs”

How ’bout free swingin’ Vlad Guerrero? He’s got the eye, and could give fine leg a good work-out.

dogsbrekky (watching Escape from NY)

March 23rd, 2009
3:36 pm

Bubdylan – yes the pics are C Park. They are not by me, but by a guy who provides feed for all the birds in the center of the “Ramble”.

It truly is an amazing place as they get birds that are NEVER found in the NE of USA that breed and nest in that area. No-one seems to know why.

My favorite is a little North Carolina based woodpecker seen in some shots after the hawk biatch. I think it is a red necked woodpecker…………… “Some latin word Carolinus”

ncscoots

March 23rd, 2009
3:37 pm

I’m not so sure that Hanson even gets the first callup this year, depending on AAA performance of Reyes and Morton. Hanson took a little time to adjust upon his advancement to AA, and it wouldn’t be surprising to see the same thing at AAA. He’s certainly a better pitcher now than he was then, but, still…

If Reyes and Morton are pitching well at AAA (assuming they go there, LOL), I think one of them would get the call for a spot start, especially. Longer term, don’t know.

Andrew

March 23rd, 2009
3:37 pm

DOB,who’s pitching Wednesday night? I ask because the game is on MLB Network.

BlawgDawg

March 23rd, 2009
3:37 pm

Just looking at some of Schilling’s stats. He became an established starter in 92. Of his 16 seasons as a ML starter, he had more than 15 wins only five times. He finished above a .500 winning pct 11 of those seasons. He only had five seasons that you could call dominate, two of those five you could argue weren’t dominate, but very good seasons nonetheless(’97 he was 17-11 with a 2.97 era and ‘99 he was 15-6 with a 3.54 era). Very good career, but certainly not a shoe-in for HOF.

Doc Holiday

March 23rd, 2009
3:39 pm

dogsbrekky (watching Escape from NY),

I agree, but braves (or any team for that matter) have to be very careful when they trade away talent. The only reason we are all talking about trading Anderson away is not because he is not good enough or the lack of talent, but because Schafer is even better. But I like the way in which braves are being very careful at doing this, you never know……..injuries, drugs, who knows, it could all end the bad way for Schafer if Braves try to push him for 150 games. One thing is clear………they are near the action, they should know better than we do.

dogsbrekky (watching Escape from NY)

March 23rd, 2009
3:41 pm

Random – yes Vlad and the more athletic OF types…… the great Aussie cricketers who also played baseball at a high level like the Chappells and Alan Border were all excellent all round sportsmen, good arms, great hand eye co-ordination and were brilliant fielders…

I think they play a bit in the Dominican so some of those guys [ala Manny] may already play…..

Doc Holiday

March 23rd, 2009
3:41 pm

ncscoots

Good point

ncscoots

March 23rd, 2009
3:41 pm

[Schilling] has more talent that some of the guys that are already in.

When has that ever mattered? Five years removed, his numbers won’t sparkle enough to put a twinkle in voters’ eyes, even if they could close their nostrils against the stench of his ego.

Doc Holiday

March 23rd, 2009
3:44 pm

ncscoots ,

Unfair………the guy is a workhorse, just ask the 90s braves……..we were the team of that decade and we could not beat him, he pitched a 2 or 3 hitter every time it was braves night.

Jim

March 23rd, 2009
3:45 pm

Thomas,

I don’t know much about Neil Walker, but none of the others would be available for what we are offering. Alvarez is a big bat, but so-so defense and could wind up on 1B if Walker is indeed a big-time prospect. Vitters might have been available for Peavy this winter, but not our spare parts. Gamel will probably be the Brewers 3B this year, and I think the Astros will start Johnson at 3B this year. No way are we getting Alvarez, Vitters, or Villalona for any or all of our presumed surplus.

BlawgDawg

March 23rd, 2009
3:47 pm

Looking at Smoltz, Maddux, and Glavine stat for career. If I hadn’t been watching those guys in the ’90s, I’d think that Maddux’s numbers were a misprint. Man that guy put up some lines back then. 19-2 with a 1.63 era in ‘95 and only walked 23 guys in 209 innings.

Glavine’s numbers actually surprise me a bit. He was my favorite pitcher in those days and I still didn’t remember him putting up those kind of numbers.

Smoltz’s overall numbers as a starter weren’t anywhere near the other two, but when you take into account the closer years, guy is light-years ahead of Schilling.

dogsbrekky (watching Escape from NY)

March 23rd, 2009
3:48 pm

Doc and others – My thoughts are that I would have Josh and Brandon Jones in the team for the 1st month and give JA a very short leash… if he sucks then Schafer is there and JA is gone

Prado I really like as well as Infante but to me they are kind of interchangeable and expendable (one a better hitter, the other better D) and then we have Norton and Diaz who are kind of interchangeable but from different side of the plate…… as we have plenty of LH hitters Norton is more superfluous than Matt….. and then we have Josh, Jordan and Gregor…… we do not need all 3 and the best player already seems to be the kid (talent point of view)…..

Why not trade Gregor or Josh, and a pitcher or whatever and get a piece of what we may require ?

Schafer Obliterator

March 23rd, 2009
3:51 pm

If Ted Turner owned this team, my southern as would be patrolling CF instead of those 2nd rate Texans and latinos

ncscoots

March 23rd, 2009
3:51 pm

Doc, Schilling vs. the Braves, career: 13-11. Selective memory, my friend.

Schafer Obliterator

March 23rd, 2009
3:51 pm

Southern ass I mean

mbatl

March 23rd, 2009
3:53 pm

I don’t know much about Neil Walker, but keep seeing his name mentioned … he may be the next Mike Schmidt.

But in 600+ AAA at-bats, a .278 OBP (and a .237 BA, and .395 SLG%) makes me more than a little nervous about him as the replacement for Chipper Jones.

Schafer Obliterator

March 23rd, 2009
3:54 pm

Hicks will be our SS one day and Yunie will be 3rd or traded

BlawgDawg

March 23rd, 2009
3:55 pm

Thanks ncscoots, you beat me to that Schilling vs Braves stat. Schilling’s mouth, character, and the bloody sock have all made him seem to be more than he actually was. What he was was a very good ML pitcher who has a shot at getting in the HOF. Though I must say,I think most of us would take that career if we could have it.

ncscoots

March 23rd, 2009
3:56 pm

Hicks will be our SS one day and Yunie will be 3rd or traded

Best line of the day. Bubdylan hates you.

Schafer Obliterator

March 23rd, 2009
3:57 pm

Hicks is just awesome, just flipping great already

roman88

March 23rd, 2009
3:59 pm

the jim negrych guy from pittsburgh was hitting .300+ but showed no power, in AA.

dogsbrekky

March 23rd, 2009
3:59 pm

My fantasy baseball team is effed already

Upton
AROD
Utley

yada yada yada

Schafer Oblit – yes Hicks is supposed to be better at SS already then 90% of MLB dudes……….. FWIW

Doc Holiday

March 23rd, 2009
4:00 pm

BlawgDawg,

Since 1991 both Glavine and Schilling have 3 seasons with ERA above 3.99.

In that same period of time Glavine has 13 season with 200+ IP and Schilling has 9, but in 3 of those seasons Schilling couldnt start 20 games, that problem only occurred to glavine once.

In that same period of time Glavine had 21 Sho while Schilling had a very distant 20 Sho.

We are talking the same glavine that is going to the HOF.

dogsbrekky

March 23rd, 2009
4:00 pm

ESPN guys just discussed Schilling and the sooky red sock game…

they think he is in the HOF

then again they suck (Buster Olney et al)

ncscoots

March 23rd, 2009
4:01 pm

BlawgDawg, oh, he’s an excellent pitcher, no denying it, and he might even make the Hall, at some point. But I’d call that more iffy than certain. That’s all. I can’t stand the guy, but he had his moments.

dogsbrekky

March 23rd, 2009
4:01 pm

Doc – Glav wins and wins and wins…….. only stat that matters….. reaalllllllllyyyyyyyyyyyyy

Tomas

March 23rd, 2009
4:03 pm

Jim,

Jorge Campillo, Jo-jo Reyes, James Parr, Martin Prado, Manny Acosta, Buddy Carlyle, Josh Anderson, Gregor Blanco, Brandon Jones, and Blaine Boyer. I mean those guy’s aren’t Jake Peavy quality, but I’m sure they could make a deal work with this guys.

David O'Brien

March 23rd, 2009
4:04 pm

Andrew, we answered that question about an hour ago — Kawakami

Schafer Obliterator

March 23rd, 2009
4:05 pm

The call of the average is NOT what the Braves are about

I should start CF and B Jones should play and

I have some swamp land for sale in Louisiana for sale for $1 an acre if you think it will happen

BUZZMEAT

March 23rd, 2009
4:06 pm

DOB: Thanks for the info , i was hoping to see Kenshin…but GO BRAVES!

Doc Holiday

March 23rd, 2009
4:07 pm

ncscoots,

career 3.56 ERA with 216 hits in 225.2 IP vs opponent

career 3.46 ERA with 394 hits in 407.1 IP vs opponent

One of the lines above belongs to Maddux vs the phillies and the other belongs to Schilling vs the Braves. Could you tell the difference? there aint much difference……….and we are talking, untouchable maddux here.

dogsbrekky

March 23rd, 2009
4:07 pm

Dobi one Knobi – I saw ART Garfunkel Sat night at a beaut place in Staten Island (the g/f is best friends with his family). The guy is 67 and can still really sing……… had a brilliant band as well….

not sure if any dudes here liked the old Simon and Garf.

Random

March 23rd, 2009
4:07 pm

roman88 (3:28 pm): “couldn’t have happened but how cool would it have been if maddox, glav, and smoltzie all went together?”

Could still happen, if Maddux were to unretire this Aug/Sep to help some team in a stretch run.

dogsbrekky

March 23rd, 2009
4:09 pm

I own 4 stocks and now I actually have a profit in each…… wow must be a booming economy

McFann :Ô:

March 23rd, 2009
4:10 pm

dogsbrekky

Those are some amazing photos! Thank you so much for sharing them! Really crystal-clear shots!

Andrew

March 23rd, 2009
4:10 pm

Sorry Dave i wasnt caught up

roman88

March 23rd, 2009
4:11 pm

cody johnson could be mlb’s next adam dunn, a ton of homers, but alot of strikeouts. does anyone think huddie will be back after this season?

Doc Holiday

March 23rd, 2009
4:15 pm

dogsbrekky,

when it is time to buy your goods……..wins is not the only stat that matters……… it would be far easier to win if you are a pitcher for the NY Yankees……….you could easily win 20 games if you have a 4.50 ERA there.

Cain had a 3.76 ERA and won 8 games while lossing 14, those that tells you he is not a winner?

Same Goes for Greinke in KC, he had 3.47 ERA with a 13-10 record.While Burnett won 18 games with a 4.07 ERA and Lilly won 17 with a 4.09 ERA.

Thats all circumstantial.

ncscoots

March 23rd, 2009
4:15 pm

Doc, five years from now, I’ll be glad to admit I was wrong if the guy goes in, OK? LOL. I know it’s shocking, but I’ve been wrong before. HA!

David O'Brien

March 23rd, 2009
4:16 pm

PWHjort: Bert Blyleven had 17 or more wins seven times, had one of the five lowest ERAs in his league seven times, finished in the top four in his league in strikeouts 12 times, finished in the top seven in his league in innings eight times, and finished first or second in his league in shutouts six times.

He has 287 wins, 3,701 strikeouts and 4,970 innings pitched.

He is not in the Hall of Fame.

Do I think Schilling will get in? Yes. Is it a given? No.

dogsbrekky

March 23rd, 2009
4:16 pm

McFann – the guy has a bazillion pictures of everything around the park. NY has some interesting characters, bums like my dog and I who cruise around during the day……. there are dozens of photo bums and “Kramer-like” bums who seem to do nothing but the “birders” take their art very seriously….

The guy who took the pics spends $500+ a week feeding the birdies there..

BlawgDawg

March 23rd, 2009
4:16 pm

Doc So we are going to 200ip seasons and shutouts to decide who was the better pitcher? Come on man. Glavine won 20 games or more FIVE times during those same seasons (and won 15 or more five other times as well) that Schilling was also pitching in the league. Not to mention two Cy Young Awards to Zero.

Frank from KS

March 23rd, 2009
4:16 pm

Doc Holiday re: your 3:28 pm post

Doc, may I ask where GA and Glav may be then?

I think you are way off here because I think both are going to be here all season long…unless it’s a injury-type reason and/or the Braves are out of playoff run.

BlawgDawg

March 23rd, 2009
4:18 pm

Oh, and by the way, since you were talking about shutouts…..Glavine-25 career shutouts……Schilling-20.

dogsbrekky

March 23rd, 2009
4:18 pm

Doc – yes I agree but I am saying

GLAVINE IS A WINNER………. dude could play hopscotch in the fairy league and I guarantee after 20 seasons he would be a HOF hopscotcher

“Never, ever get off of a winning trend until it is broken”

Glavine deserves a lot of rope and I don’t care if his fastball is slower than 80mph, the dude just knows how to eff with hitters minds and get dudes out

DAP

March 23rd, 2009
4:20 pm

dogsbrekky

i dont know about prado and infante being interchangeable. they play a couple of the same positions, but infante plays a few more. the outfield, and SS specifically. prado has played SS and a little LF, but hes mostly an infielder, and filled in pretty well at first base last year to.

diaz and norton arent that similar. norton is a switch hitter with alot of power, diaz hits righty for average but still Ks and doesnt walk much, plus hes the third catcher. his power is just decent. norton is also much more versatile defensively than diaz.

i see where your comparisons come from, but i dont think anyone of these guys makes the other guy expendable.

also, what kind of piece do you see us requiring? the team is pretty complete and deep…anyone that goes down pretty much has someone right behind them to pick up the slack. the only thing i see us needing is a superstar middle of the order power bat for the outfield, and i dont see that happening.

p.s. to shafer obliterator…yunel will not be moved to third. he is an excellent SS, only a crazy would move him.

TnBrian

March 23rd, 2009
4:22 pm

People don’t care much for Schilling cause he sticks his nose in people’s business and runs to the media with it, or he used to. Another “problem” with Schilling is his public support of Republicans…not saying it’s cause he supports them, just that some people get offended. But, it’s ok for a black athelete to support Obama and not get bashed because that would be racist. Double standard if I ever saw it.

But, yeah, Curt does stick his fat nose in almost every controversial topic in MLB when he gets the chance, so I see where some would get mad.

BlawgDawg

March 23rd, 2009
4:24 pm

Not to mention 90 more wins in Glavine’s career. Wasn’t actually trying to compare Glavine and Schilling earlier when I was talking about some of Maddux, Glavine, and Smoltz’s stats, just kind of surprised me when I looked back at Glavine’s stats. And Maddux’s stats almost look like misprints.

But since you started comparing Glav and Schilling I’ll ask you a question. Do you think Maddux, Glavine, and Smoltz are no doubt HOF’ers? I certainly do, and I don’t believe that Schilling is a no doubter. Could very well get in as I said earlier, and I wouldn’t be upset at all if he did, would be perfectly acceptable I think. But the “Big 3″ are on a completely different level than Schilling when it comes to HOF talk.

Hillbilly

March 23rd, 2009
4:24 pm

GLAVINE IS A WINNER………. dude could play hopscotch in the fairy league and I guarantee after 20 seasons he would be a HOF hopscotcher

That one should raise the eyebrows of the Wurlitzer Committe. Very nice.

Frank from KS

March 23rd, 2009
4:25 pm

David O’Brien re: 4:16 pm post

DOB

I agree with ya there. Blyleven deserves to be in the HOF. I’m glad Rice is getting in. The Hawk is another who deserves to be in.

I caught ESPN’s early morning show *First Take* (formerly Cold Pizza) and the round table discussion called *1st & 10* they have with Jay Crawford, Skip Bayless and the two black gentlemen (can’t think of their names). Bayless said Schilling’s definately a HOF….more for his post-season performance….not so much his regular-season work.

TnBrian

March 23rd, 2009
4:25 pm

UH OH… I spelled “athlete” wrong! Some blog genius better be quick to correct me, or you might miss your chance.

dogsbrekky

March 23rd, 2009
4:25 pm

DAP – I think the GM said he was going to make a move, well kind of know he wants to “guarantee” some hitting power…….

I am not saying I agree with his idea but

I think there will be a trade involving some dudes mentioned for a power OF…….. personally, now I would have liked to give Brandon Jones another shot, Diaz another shot and I really like the Schafer kid..

I also think JoJo may be much much better than I ever hoped…

but I am not sure how that fits in to our plans… but against JOHAN we showed yet again that we struggle against the elite (read playoff) type pitchers, just as we did without Justice etc in the WS we fell short in.

We have this great farm system, farm coaching etc etc but I sincerely think we eff it all up when we get to the MLB level (re the Tex bitach trade)

BravesFan79

March 23rd, 2009
4:28 pm

“After left-handers Boone Logan and Eric O’Flaherty gave up a combined 11 runs to the Mets Sunday”
Have the Braves not learned their lesson yet that trying to place 1 great player with 2 scrubs just dosent work….and gives you average results at best??
We learned this in 2006 when Escobar was left off the team, and instead used Chris Woodcrap and Pete Orr….. which led to us tanking after Chipper got hurt.

Now i see the same thing happening, and i said this a month ago. Ohman CANNOT be replaced by 2 or even 3 mediocure left handed relievers. Are we TRYING to achieve mediocure results…. or are we trying to WIN!??
Release the 2 lefties..and bring back Ohman!!

Doc Holiday

March 23rd, 2009
4:29 pm

I never said Schilling was better than Glavine……….ever. Not even equal.

But to say that he is not even close to being a HOFer or that Glavine and Smoltz are gods and Schilling is a mortal………thats not fair. We all know that Schilling is a winner, period. Good pitcher that did gave his team an above average chance of winning when he was on the mount.

I would put Maddux on another league……..he really is something.

Glavine and Smoltz are great pitchers. But in reality, If Schilling was on the mount against any of those 3 guys, that was going to be a close game. That tells you something.

roman88

March 23rd, 2009
4:30 pm

looking back, I’m glad wren’s other potential moves didn’t work out. wish someday maddox could come back in some compacity with the braves coaching or something, the story of him calling the game for chen from the dugout was amazing.

BB5795

March 23rd, 2009
4:30 pm

dogsbrekky I really enjoyed the pictures. (3:25)

“It truly is an amazing place as they get birds that are NEVER found in the NE of USA that breed and nest in that area. No-one seems to know why.” (3:36)

The reason is a well-kept secret, but you seem like a nice person. Don’t tell anyone else, but the reason so many birds nest in this area of Central Park, is because when the young ones can fly, they love to poop on the heads of Met fans (can you blame them?). If any of you visit New York in the spring, you may want to wear a hat.

Bubdylan

March 23rd, 2009
4:31 pm

TnBrain, mercy, you’re all over place…

Bubdylan

March 23rd, 2009
4:31 pm

I meant “all over the place”

Schafer Obliterator

March 23rd, 2009
4:31 pm

I can hit even god on the outside corner, but will these hypocrites give me a show over nobody, nobody and Garret,

free-agency mediocrity

worst OF ever in 2008 followed by the Frenchy ‘09 cant hit a lick show…

I CRUSH SOULs

read Matthew 3-21

David O'Brien

March 23rd, 2009
4:32 pm

What happened to Cody Johnson? Why is he not being hyped up like Freeman and Heyward? What’s the deal on him? Buffalo NY Braves afn

Not sure what you mean by what happened to him. He’s in minor league camp, not on 40-man roster, not invited to spring training (only a few young non-roster players are).

Why isn’t he being as “hyped” as Heyward and Freeman?

Well, Cody Johnson hit .252 with a .307 OBP and .786 OPS last season at Rome, with 177 strikeouts and 40 walks in 468 at-bats. (His 26 homers don’t just negate all those other stats.)

On the same Rome team:

Freeman hit .316 with a .378 OBP and .899 OPS, with 84 strikeouts and 46 walks.

Heyward hit .323 with a .388 OBP and .871 OPS, with 74 strikeouts and 49 walks.

Does that answer the question?

Cody is a raw, power-hitting prospect, but at this point the other two are more advanced as hitters and players.

Doc Holiday

March 23rd, 2009
4:32 pm

Frank from KS,

Who the ·$&$% is GA? Garret anderson? I never said a word about him.

Chop Chop

March 23rd, 2009
4:32 pm

The only good birds are dead or flipped.

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