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nolie

March 23rd, 2009
2:04 am

They’ll make their way through the ranks soon enough. Damn good looking pair of kids though, aren’t they? KC

yep they surely are. Give ‘em some time. 30 Ab in ST doesn’t really prove anything one way or another. I’m guessin’ if they hit well in MB the might get advanced this season, or maybe only at the end like Heyward did last year. They are exciting to look forward to and it’s easy to get impatient, but unless they are needed it’s best to kinda continue the cycle. I’m guessing 2011 starts for both of them.

nolie

March 23rd, 2009
2:11 am

KC, I’m not sure as to the overall level of play but I do know the Elite Japanese players are playing. Coach

The general level is considered around AA level, but of course there are stars who are much better Much of their success especially in tournaments is the total team concept that they practice. Doubt it would work in the American pros. Cuba had much the same team approach. I know from what I saw in the minors there was a whole lotta I in team. Which is not surprising as they are competing against each for their livelihoods. Some exceptions , but it wouldn’t be human nature to root too hard for the guys trying to take your job.

Coach (Skip and Pete will be missed)

March 23rd, 2009
2:29 am

This is for all you good folks who were questioning the sanity of Davey Johnson because he started Jeter at SS and Rollins as the DH.

The bottom of the eighth in last nights game proved the blog to be correct.

The score was 6-4 with two out when Jeter threw away a routine ground ball, and Japan scored three more runs after the error to put the game on ice.

Davey Johnson gets the donkey award for starting Derek Jeter instead of Jimmy Rollins.

N Nine (eta13)

March 23rd, 2009
2:32 am

Another reason why Davey has no job in MLB and shows how overrated the Yankee captain is.

Bay Area Steve

March 23rd, 2009
3:56 am

Anybody seen the wagon (this is just a test to see why I can’t see a post since 2:32, so, please don’t label me a drunkard, at least for this post)?

Bay Area Steve

March 23rd, 2009
4:12 am

All to myself…where to start? (Note to self, do not call anyone, or Anyone, a douche-bag.)

Carroll, or one of you other fine folks, would you explain her comment about “iturbe” re the Dean Smith/Clemson/Barnes thread? ‘Twas lost on me (shocking, I know).

Whoever called out Coach for the Keyman thing. FREAKin’ beautiful. Caught with the pants down; had a certain Thorman/options ring to it.

And, let me say, for at least the fifth time, you name-changers are awesome. The switch to Keyman was accuracy and subtlety, together like ice and whiskey; made for each other. I guess I’m so impressed because I can’t imagine not wanting credit for the post. I mean, look at me, I post all this drivel under just my name, hoping I can make one salient point.

And, bubd, look out for McFann. I know you used F.A.T., but that was suspect. I think you’re in trouble. But the Hi-Def line was sweet. Well done.

Bay Area Steve

March 23rd, 2009
4:22 am

Baseball:

I have to admit, I seriously wondered why we weren’t going after Dunn, when the rumors were down to $5M per (I know he went at $10M). It’s moments like tonight, when I again realize that there are much smarter minds in charge of our squad. Good grief, even after reading a lot of info saying so, who woulda thought a corner OF could cost a team so much. Then you see it for yourself. Wow. Thank you, Mr. Wren.

Similarly, I’d like to point out a post by PTBNL, regarding Ohman. As he said, there were not many here happy with losing Mahay and signing Ohman. Yet, it turned out fine. Perhaps we should trust the front office to find a suitable replacement again.

And, to the boys knocking Davey Johnson, I agree. Of course, this is after the fact, when it’s so much easier to be right. But Rollins over Jeter at SS, really? And then PH for “The Reaper,” I’ll never understand, unless someone tells me Julian Tavarez had him in a triangle-choke in the third deck.

Bay Area Steve

March 23rd, 2009
4:33 am

UGA, apologies for knocking Count Choppula. While I still think it’s weak, I can get behind anything with a little history.

And, scoots, I’d like to thank you for reading, or at least skimming, all the posts. To go back, see a question to you, and respond a day later, is class. It shows a tremendous amount of respect to your fellow posters. I try to read them all; I wish everyone would do the same. I think it would lessen the repetitive posts, and raise the level of discourse here. I also realize, that many would like my particular brand of douche-bag to go away; to each his own. (It’s OK to call one’s self a douche-bag.)

nolie

March 23rd, 2009
4:34 am

Similarly, I’d like to point out a post by PTBNL, regarding Ohman BA STEVE

yeah that PT can post some good stuff sometimes,especially for a non-stat guy.
but he’s reasonable about it anyway. :lol:

actually I thought there were several interesting discussion tonight. Even some I wasn’t in on. 8)

Schafer's Wafers

March 23rd, 2009
4:40 am

BA,

You been hittin the bottle again??

Bay Area Steve

March 23rd, 2009
4:56 am

nolie, always takin’ shots, and nobody plays back; OK, I’ll try.

Hey, nolie, for an old guy, you’re pretty good with them yellowy thingies.

As far as interesting discussion, I’m always in on it. Shoot, I start it. It all originates with me. And, this new Wafer guy’s askin’ an awful weak question. Just sayin’, Francoeur’s (refuse to call him Frenchy) Franks would know the answer.

Schafer's Wafers

March 23rd, 2009
5:02 am

Schafer’s Wafers formerly known as Roach BA

Bay Area Steve

March 23rd, 2009
5:11 am

I saw you mention it earlier, SW, but if you don’t know the answer to that question, you’re new. And, what’s the costume for a Schafer’s Wafer? Vanilla wafer? Silicon wafer? Drunken minds want to know.

N Nine (eta13)

March 23rd, 2009
5:14 am

Please pass one over Bay I need to knock myself to sleep…Thanks in advance

Wafers always good with some milk, yum

Schafer's Wafers

March 23rd, 2009
5:16 am

Im thinkin Vanilla BA…..Probably go good with that early morning snack your gonna be wantin here soon. What ya drinkin Im in need of some whiskey

Bay Area Steve

March 23rd, 2009
5:34 am

Whiskey bad, not recommended for you good Braves’ fans. Slippery slope, and all.

Gotta admit, was hopin’ silicon, SW. Just for the fact that the Hooters’ girls mighta got worked in. Silicon, silicone; Anders, douche; all the same. Sorry Anders, can’t help myself.

(This is some horrible, Silicon-Valley, semi-conductor humor, for those of you who just think I’m an idiot. And, if you think I’m an idiot, you’re very astute.)

Bay Area Steve

March 23rd, 2009
5:38 am

Here, my biannual, unwanted, unwarranted hope, that the self-exiled, extremely-fine folks, who are no longer with us here, choose to return for an occasional visit, to where I first found you.

You’re depriving too many of your talents.

CharlieAlphaBravo

March 23rd, 2009
5:40 am

Don’t know if anybody mentioned this already, but I was watching last week’s Lie to Me episode on Tivo and noticed something pretty cool… In the opening scene the people in the Jeep are rocking out to Three Dimes Down by none other than Mr. Mike Cooley of the Drive-By Truckers. Pretty cool stuff…

ncscoots

March 23rd, 2009
6:39 am

BASteve, I think you’re giving me a little too much credit, bro, LOL. While I do go back and skim, it’s usually to see if there were some tidbits of info that I might use to my own benefit. Purely selfish, I assure you. HA!

Couch Tater

March 23rd, 2009
6:54 am

Puerto Rico had whistles, Japan has thundersticks….what is it with other countries/territories and annoying accessories??

Ever been to the country of Starkville? In that country, they ring the bells of St. Elsie (a sacred cow) to signify the triumphs of their young warriors. The bells have been quiet of late.

Coach (Skip and Pete will be missed)

March 23rd, 2009
7:00 am

Keyman?

I have no idea. Spaceman to steve…come in, over???

Couch Tater

March 23rd, 2009
7:20 am

I suppose Yu Darvish had no problems adjusting to the size of the baseball…

RHR

March 23rd, 2009
7:31 am

KC – I’m not coach but I used to get CSS when I had charter cable so no. I don’t think I have it on directv but I’m not 100% sure, I get every braves game on various channels so it may be on there.

RHR

March 23rd, 2009
7:32 am

Oh weird..when I posted the above the last comment showing was KC’s about comcast. He’s probably gotten the answer a hundred times by now.

18 Wheels of Love

March 23rd, 2009
7:33 am

Did someone say Dr. Leo Spaceman?

richbrave

March 23rd, 2009
8:05 am

Am I the only one here wondering if the precipitate decline of ANDRUM JONES’ batting skills is more than natural? I mean, its so glaring and sudden, almost like something changed physiologically rather than emotionally.

David O'Brien

March 23rd, 2009
8:05 am

DeRo, now there’s a dude who’s blossomed into a strong, versatile player later than most do….

CharlieAlphaBravo, I haven’t seen that show, but they also used Three Dimes Down playing in background as Shane was gearing up for battle in a scene during one of the final episodes of the dearly departed The Shield.

Speaking of The Shield, thank God we’ve at least got Breaking Away. Not quite as gripping as Shane and Vic and the boys, but a very good show nonetheless.

Jersey Gil

March 23rd, 2009
8:37 am

DOB…Did you think the Braves going after Mike Moustakas 3b from the Royal, KC look has a surplus of 3B (Alex Gordon & Mark teahan) .Look that team need some Pen help. I will Trade Carlyle,Campillo & one position Player for that KID.

brent a.

March 23rd, 2009
8:45 am

i may be imagining things; but, I’m pretty sure I remember Frank Wren talking about the cyclical nature of (left-handed) relief pitching late last year, in vague regard to Will Ohman.

The sense I got from the comments was that he (Wren) didn’t feel that you could count on a lefty-reliever following up one great season, with another one.

People weren’t over-enamored with the Ohman acquisition at the time; yet, he was very solid for us.

The Braves looked to trade him, but refused to get reamed in a trade. Ohman faded down the stretch, and now, he can’t find a home.

There seems to be more to this than just the Braves choosing O’Flaherty and Logan over Ohman.
One would think that somebody would’ve seen fit to sign Ohman by now, wouldn’t you?

I still think back to those comments his wife made back over the winter. I wish I could hear the tone in her voice.

Daniel

March 23rd, 2009
9:13 am

brent-
I appreciate your comments. I have been wondering all spring long why Ohman hasn’t signed with a team yet. I kinda understand the Braves waiting to see what they could get from some cheaper left handed alternatives. Obviously, what we get is a fire storm of hits. But, I am really suprised that no other team has picked him up yet. What do you think the reason is Dave? Is there something about Ohman’s arm that we don’t know? Are all the teams waiting for the next round of roster cuts? I do know the Braves would be better with him.

TnBrian

March 23rd, 2009
9:18 am

brent, you know, baseball players,GM’s,and coaches can be pretty supersticious, so maybe they feel Ohman is a BAD Ohman. They might look at us last year and think, damn, Atl. just had it’s worst year since ‘90 and Will was there. Now, either I’m just tired and foggy brained or I might have a point to what I’m saying.

Hillbilly

March 23rd, 2009
9:25 am

One of my all-time favorite lines in a song:

“If the part about being who he was
couldn’t help Tom get loose,
What’s a guy without a T. gonna get?
Totally screwed while chicken-wing puke
eats the candy-apple red off his corvette.”

–Three Dimes Down, DBT

Random

March 23rd, 2009
9:32 am

richbraveM/strong> (8:05 am): “Am I the only one here wondering if the precipitate decline of ANDRUM JONES’ batting skills is more than natural?”

You mean supernatural?

Yeah, maybe Papa Legba rode his horse hard and put it up wet.

And then kicked the dog and killed the chicken.

Spooky.

(Or did you mean “less than natural”, or unnatural?)

Dadgum

March 23rd, 2009
9:33 am

RichBrave and others…..Andruw’s fall from the elite has probably never been equaled. Chuck Knoblach comes to mind at 2nd base but at least he went to another position and could hit. Rick Ankiel as a pitcher comes to mind. When the fans behind the screen start to duck when you pitch, that’s not good. But again he found new life in teh outfield and can hit. So, no, Andruw has hit deeper than rock bottom. Couple his hitting demise with losing a step defensively and you have brand new territory discovered. I say all this with hopes he can get back close to his old self. He will have to start over again in the minors and play every day. Maybe something will click but I won’t lose any sleep over it.

Is it just me or does every single Japanese player bat left-handed and swing the same. Oh yeah, and very good at that. They made Oswalt look horrendous. Japan was the better team (by far) although I understand it was early in ST for our guys. Still you can’t make excuses. When you have Mark Derosa playing 1st base, well, you aren’t playing with a full deck. That’s a head-scratcher.

Which brings me to Adam Dunn. Everybody on this blog should personally send an e-mail to Frank Wren thanking him for not paying that stiff to suit up in a Braves uniform. There is a good reason he can’t play in the NL. He has literally no spot on the field to play. NONE. The DH has let him to continue to play in Anaheim. BTW, I hate the damn DH. Good for old worn out players but bad for baseball.

Rock on….

bravofan

March 23rd, 2009
9:36 am

DOB what are the chances that Andruw is in the Braves organization assuming the Rangers releasing him? DOB think the braves will make any trades and who would we get in return? anybody else with thoughts feel free to answer

McFann :Ô:

March 23rd, 2009
9:43 am

Bay Area Steve And, bubd, look out for McFann. I know you used F.A.T., but that was suspect. I think you’re in trouble.

Ah, he’s OK…we all know McCann’s not fat anymore…

McFann :Ô:

March 23rd, 2009
9:48 am

Too bad they had to lose to Japan, but hey…BMAC’S COMING HOME!! Yeeee-yabba-dabba-doo!! Just in time for those televised games…

Let’s let Third Day take us out on this one:

Even though you’ve broken my heart

I’ll love you just the same

I’ll love you anyway

Never mind your worries

Never mind your fears

They can only take you far from me

When you feel there’s nowhere

Left for you to turn

Well, I got all you want

And everything you need

Come on back to me!

Random

March 23rd, 2009
9:49 am

Dadgum (9:33 am): “Which brings me to Adam Dunn. . . . There is a good reason he can’t play in the NL. He has literally no spot on the field to play. NONE. The DH has let him to continue to play in Anaheim. BTW, I hate the damn DH. Good for old worn out players but bad for baseball.”

? ? ? ? ?

Dunn went from his only ever team the Reds to the Diamondbacks last year, and is currently signed with the Nationals. Where are you getting Anaheim and DH from — you must be thinking of someone else?

Clap on . . .

Clap off.

Dadgum

March 23rd, 2009
9:51 am

Nolie…not sure what you mean by comparing the general level of play in Japan to AA. Remember, my denizen friend, that AA ball here is where the majority of the young major league talent plays. There is a reason why the Braves pitching coach here in Richmond, Guy Hanson, left for Myrtle Beach and A-ball. To quote, “it gets a little depressing to be around players that think they have the talent to play at the major league level but really don’t. I am going to A-ball where they have talent and will still listen”. Word to the wise…don’t buy the notion that Japanese pro players are sub-major league level.

Rock on……early best new show goes to Lie To Me, still Friday Night Lights rocks!

Dadgum

March 23rd, 2009
9:53 am

Random….Thanks. I stand corrected. No I was thinking Dunn just wrong team. Which begs the question…what were the Nationals thinking?

Rock on….

spotts

March 23rd, 2009
10:01 am

good song, McFann

spotts

March 23rd, 2009
10:02 am

Which begs the question…what were the Nationals thinking?

Nationals don’t think, Dadgum.

spotts

March 23rd, 2009
10:03 am

see – Alfonso Soriano

richbrave

March 23rd, 2009
10:09 am

RANDOM:

No RANDOM, I mean physiologically wrong. Deteriorating eye-hand coordination because of some latent health issue. Do clubs routinely moniter their star players’ abilities in this area? With the monies tossed around today, I would hope so. Aside from suspended HGH or steroid use, it appears that something’s physically wrong. It can’t be all in his head. He never gave the appearance that much bothered him emotionally anyway.

Slugger

March 23rd, 2009
10:16 am

I blame Team USA for starting a righty against that lineup. I blame Davey for not starting Rollins in right field instead of Dunn. Rollins is a SS, so he can play anywhere except for behind the dish.

Howell and Thornton had the Japanese hitters guys swinging out of the hand while they dug in against all our righties.

The USA must really not care about winning this thing if they couldn’t pry a lefty out of some camp and bring him in like with Longoria.

Think Japan would hit CC, David Price or Cliff Lee?

Where were Josh Hamilton and Ian Kinsler? They are two of the best position players the US could offer? I thought Hamilton would love to represent the USA like that.

Markakis played for team greece in the olympics, but he’s 100% American. Why not grab Markakis?

The Japanese don’t play a better brand of baseball, either. Those players just aren’t in ’spring training’ mode.

Bring that Japanese squad back and face the best US has to offer in October, and watch them get shut out and knocked around the park.

They all have too much movement in their swings to be successful against a LH pitcher (the japanese left-handed batters) with any sort of VELO.

Daniel

March 23rd, 2009
10:18 am

rich-
I think Andruw’s decline is due to several elements. 1) He has never been a physical specimen, and his work out regime is been very poor. 2) The testing in baseball for performance enhancers. 3) He is several years older than we think he is.

When he broke in with the Braves he was probably closer to 23 than 19

DAP

March 23rd, 2009
10:19 am

mcfann love that song….

also, comparing the level of play in japan to AA is one thing. but keep in mind there were several MLB players on that team last night, and it was the best of the best from japan. those guys could play.

Dadgum

March 23rd, 2009
10:22 am

Don’t the Braves have to sign Ohman? I mean we are thinking of keeping Glavine around at an extra million when we have an abundance of starting pithcing. I don’t see where we have an abundance of good LH pitching in the pen. Frankly, I would take Glavine off the roster as one of the cuts this week. Save some money and give it to Ohman.

Does anyone seriously think that Glavine (he of the 83 mph 4-seamer)will make the 25 man roster? Really?

Rock on….

getnathan

March 23rd, 2009
10:24 am

Am I the only one concerned about our left handed reliever. Logan is going to be inconsistent, and O’Flaherty is just no good. Logan walked two consecutive left handed hitters yesterday. O’Flaherty got tattooed. I think Braves need Ohman.

McFann :Ô:

March 23rd, 2009
10:35 am

Thanks, Spotts!

DAP

Me, too. Listened to it on my ‘Pod this morning thought it would be perfect…at least that particular part of it, anyway.

KC

March 23rd, 2009
10:37 am

nolie, I have to respectfully disagree about the level of talent in Japan. I think “AA” is considerably underselling them. I don’t think we can realistically chalk all of their WBC success up to teamwork. There is good talent over there. Especially since they’ve kept it concentrated to 12 teams.

Again, in my view, the level of play there is in between AAA and MLB.

Big Easy

March 23rd, 2009
10:38 am

Nice to see McFann breaking out the Third Day this morning….

~E~

CB

March 23rd, 2009
10:40 am

Guys,everybody needs to calm down.I read the posts yesterday about Ohman and thought we were talking about Sandy Koufax.Trust the management and look at the improvement in the roster.As fans we should be thrilled with our future

Mekons

March 23rd, 2009
10:43 am

Am I the only one concerned about our left handed reliever.

Um, have you actually read this blog? By my count, yours is the 698th identical comment.

BlawgDawg

March 23rd, 2009
10:50 am

bravofan You aren’t seriously trying to start the “sign Andruw to a minor league deal” call again are you. Exactly what has Andruw done this spring that would change anyone’s mind about where he is in his career. He’s DONE, FINISHED, CAPUT (sp?). I loved watching Andruw as much as anyone when he was roaming CF as no one else has, but the guy is done. Unless he makes DRASTIC changes to his approach to hitting, he will never be an effective MLB player again. And exactly what has he done the last 3 years to show that he is willing to make changes and listen to others when it comes to his offense? He’s done the opposite, he’s shown that he is stubborn and thinks that only he’s knows best for Andruw.

Jackie Treehorn

March 23rd, 2009
10:51 am

DOB, did you tune into Breaking Bad last night? Another awesome episode.

Question though: wouldn’t Walt’s fingerprints be all over the M-16, along with Tuco’s? I don’t know how it works in New Mexico, but you would think they would have Walt’s prints on file because he’s a teacher.

Walt’s wife is PISSED. Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.

Cru Jones

March 23rd, 2009
10:51 am

Schafer’s Wafer’s
I cant believe you stole my name.

Cru Jones

March 18th, 2009
3:17 pm
TheManMike
Shcafer’s Wafer’s (patent pending)
http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-braves-blog/2009/03/18/hanson-vs-wright-less-mets/comment-page-4/#comments

BlawgDawg

March 23rd, 2009
10:51 am

And to answer your question so DOB doesn’t have to bother going there again….the chances of the Braves signing him……ZERO

BA

March 23rd, 2009
10:52 am

I disagree with anybody that tries to sell Japan short (maybe the first time I’ve ever disagreed with Nolie). Their shortstop, 3b (Murata, not the replacement guy last night) and LF could all start in the Majors, and their RF,CF,C and 2b already are starting in MLB.

And the pitchers- Iwakuma, Darvish- and that reliever last night (Mahara)was throwing 95 with a nasty slider.

I think the Far East is catching up to us in regards to talent. And they play the game the right way- clearly the baseball gods appreciate this kind of thing, because I think Japan will win this thing again.

And maybe next time, get a real manager for USA. And stay away from the errant NY infielders. There’s not a reason in the world that Johnson should have been starting Jeter over Rollins at short.

crap-wheelie

March 23rd, 2009
10:53 am

Great. Now that the WBC farce is over, McCann can come home and learn how to catch three new pitchers.

richbrave

March 23rd, 2009
10:57 am

DANIEL:

That’s a good post. Logical.

BlawgDawg

March 23rd, 2009
10:59 am

Daniel Great point about Andruw’s age, other than himself and his parents, who really knows how old the guy is.

KC

March 23rd, 2009
11:05 am

crap-wheelie, agreed.

richbrave

March 23rd, 2009
11:06 am

Another subject. GIL in MECHANICSVILLE and I both said that PRADO was a more mature and complete player here in RICHMOND in ‘07 than LiLBRIDGE. Brent’s bat was slow. Its hard to speed up a slow bat in MLB. Lots of work over time. I think the BRAVES just didn’t need to wait on the “BRIDGE” and dealt him. MARTIN is a solid player and probably could be a starter and improve slightly. I would be surprised if he’s not moved during the season or next off-season with both ANDERSON and SCHAFER on the scene. I feel he’s better all round RIGHT NOW than ANDERSON, but the two seem fairly close at this point. I feel JOSH’s upside is also limited. To me, choosing between them is like tweedle-dum and tweedle-dee. In which case I would keep the younger player.

KC

March 23rd, 2009
11:07 am

BlawgDawg, yeah it certainly seems odd that a guy would fizzle out at 30 years old (which is how old he was when this precipitous decline began). I can’t imagine that he could of gotten away with exaggerating his age by 6 or 7 years though. So even if he’s about to turn 35 instead of 32… that would mean he fizzled out at 33, which would still be surprising.

McFann :Ô:

March 23rd, 2009
11:08 am

Thanks, Big Easy! Gonna be good to see BMac back where he belongs! (It’s ’cause I wanted USA to beat Japan that they lost…maybe it was reverse psychology…)

Jersey Gil

March 23rd, 2009
11:08 am

I can’t believe still some guys discussing Andrew Jones in this Blog…AJ is done, finish, or Terminado, he problaly end up in Japan,Mexico or Working with his Pal Javy Lopez in his Bat Company.

The last couple of day i Post a ? to CR & DOB about ours 3b situation, What it the Future for the Braves in Third Base. Chipper is getting old and i don’t see in ours system a replacement. Van Pope, Eric Campbell are not the answers. The only posibility is covert Brando Hicks to third this year in the Minor, this kid have some Pop in his bat, the other solution is thru trade, get some propect for the 2011 season ready.

richbrave

March 23rd, 2009
11:14 am

And much to my chagrin, I look up stats to see if my gut feeling in backed up and find the ANDERSON is the older player by over a year. PRADO may have more trade value however off his 2008 performance in ATLANTA. He stepped up considerably over his minor league play.

Lew

March 23rd, 2009
11:15 am

I wonder if Andruw can pitch?

DAP

March 23rd, 2009
11:18 am

jersey gil i always laugh about folks being worried about our 3B replacement. chipper is several years away from being done, guys. a replacement for 3B should not be our concern. our concern should be extending chipper’s contract. like ive said before, chipper’s replacement might not be out of high school yet.

richbrave

March 23rd, 2009
11:21 am

LEW:

If he cna sign him up for a commercial weight-loss program.

Josh H

March 23rd, 2009
11:22 am

richbrave:

Prado’s trade value will probably never be higher.

dogsbrekky

March 23rd, 2009
11:22 am

McCann had some fabulous at bats last night….

mbatl

March 23rd, 2009
11:25 am

I just can’t see us trading Prado unless we get a better major league infielder in return, which seems unlikely. If we traded him, we’d have Infante backing up 2B, 3B, probably CF and some SS – with Diory Hernandez the only other option for 2B/SS, and given his fielding this spring (and his hitting too, for that matter), hard to imagine that happening.

’scoots, whatever your motivations, lol, do appreciate your comments on Campbell. I keep telling myself maybe he’ll work out – but of course that’s based on nothing more than his hitting stats (when he’s happy enough to be on the field) and my own hopes. I knew he had problems but didn’t know it involved depression.

BlawgDawg

March 23rd, 2009
11:26 am

KC Yeah, fizzling out at 33 would still be surprising, but when you figure that Andruw has never been a guy that took care of his body the way a lot of pro athletes do, there is an explanation for it. I don’t really think that Andruw was taking any steroids or HGH(though I certainly wouldn’t be shocked if it ever came out that he did, I wouldn’t be shocked by anyone coming out other than maybe Greg Maddux) But when you’ve played the number of games that he has, 3 or 4 years could really make that big of a difference, especially if he wasn’t using steroids or HGH.

I just find it sad that Andruw let it get to this point. If he had been mature enough a few years ago to listen to people that were trying to help him instead of sticking with the “I’m a pull hitter” attitude, maybe things would be a little different.

But enough from me about Andruw, I think this is an exciting time to be a Braves fan, and I’m looking forward to seeing the new crop of talent (hopefully) help the Braves become contenders again.

dogsbrekky

March 23rd, 2009
11:28 am

Anyone’s bracket look good, mine looks more like a spoke than a whole bracket…

Did Froggy get his BB versus Johan yesterday ?

Daniel

March 23rd, 2009
11:29 am

I know that we are all spoiled by how much attention DOB gives to the blog. But, man can you help us understand this left handed bullpen situation.

Random

March 23rd, 2009
11:30 am

Josh H (11:22 am): “Prado’s trade value will probably never be higher.”

Maybe.

More to the point — Prado’s trade value will probably never be high.

Leastways, not high enough that the Braves would ever be tempted to trade one of their most invaluble bench players.

Schafer Obliterator

March 23rd, 2009
11:30 am

I should be CF for Atlanta….. Anderson cannot hit good pitching !

Daniel

March 23rd, 2009
11:30 am

I am alright dogsbrekky, I got 13 out 16 with all my elite 8 still in play. I am kinda upper middle of the pack right now, but if things go my way I can finish strong

Jersey Gil

March 23rd, 2009
11:31 am

Don’t be so sure DAP..look what happen to Smoltzy…

dogsbrekky

March 23rd, 2009
11:31 am

Daniel – I got destroyed on my outsiders round 1 and some close losses

I am in 1.3 millionth position out of like 1.5 Million

PIZZARO

March 23rd, 2009
11:33 am

Do the Mets and braves play again this spring? I haven’t taken anything from the head to head games since both teams (especially Mets) were short handed because of the WBC.

Daniel

March 23rd, 2009
11:34 am

sorry to here that, did you do the 680 bracket?

Daniel

March 23rd, 2009
11:35 am

Hey Schaefer Oliterator… can you hit leadoff?

Jersey Gil

March 23rd, 2009
11:39 am

Pizarro…we done with the Mutt…Our Schedule is: Pit,Was,Tor,Det,NYY,Bos,Hous,Det,Hous,Det.

cphizzle

March 23rd, 2009
11:40 am

ok i know i ask this every other day, but i keep hoping one day i will get the answer im looking for. somebody please tell me dish network has picked up peachtree tv. i must have it before this season starts.

Jersey Gil

March 23rd, 2009
11:41 am

My Bracket is 14 out 16….Wake Forrest kill my bracket in my final four.

Jersey Gil

March 23rd, 2009
11:42 am

But i still has Kansas in the elite 8

dogsbrekky

March 23rd, 2009
11:42 am

I had UCLA to beat ‘Nova and Marquette to do Maryland…. oops

Schafer Obliterator

March 23rd, 2009
11:43 am

I am really good and can hit anywhere in the line-up but feel Chipper is a better nos 3 and McCann a better 4, but I am the next best Brave…

richbrave

March 23rd, 2009
11:45 am

Well, I precipitated all this in my mind by thinking that I didn’t want to go into the season with ANDERSON starting in center. But he has no options. SCHAFER does, and I suppose its time to see what JOSH has got. There’s no other CF prospect that I’ve forgotten about currently vying in ST for a CF slot is there other than BLANCO? I keep thinking that we may pull off a trade for that position and PRADO came to mind. But I like our bench lots and we do need him behind JOHNSON.

No way JEFF FRANCOUR, GARRETT ANDERSON or MATTY DIAZ could play center I suppose. JF’s got a full “plate” with the stick. He doesn’t need to be moving around, not that he could necessarily.

BA

March 23rd, 2009
11:46 am

Daniel, I bet they carry Logan and O’Flaherty- with Ridgeway stuck at AAA getting called out in the newspaper by his manager again.

And Jersey Gil called it. I like the free agent signings the Braves did this winter, and I like Vazquez.

But if I learned anything for certain this offseason, it’s that the Braves front office has zero sense of loyalty to franchise-type veterans- and could care less what their fanbase thinks. If Smoltz is disposable, what will that make Chipper come free-agent time? Are they going to offer him 3 million in incentives for a year?

Lew

March 23rd, 2009
11:47 am

RichBrave-Yeah, I’m surprised that no one has suggested Andruw learn how to throw left handed and become a reliever. The Jenny Craig clause is a good idea, too. It has the potential to go down in ML history along with Tommy Johnson surgery. “Dude’s already had TJ surgery and a JC clause.”

PIZZARO

March 23rd, 2009
11:50 am

Jersey Gil…..It seems like those “spring training” games have got you excited.

DAP

March 23rd, 2009
11:50 am

jersey gil if the worst does happen, wren screws up and we lose chipper after this year,. there are several pretty good 3B free agents available, and the braves will once again have some money to spend. the best of the bunch is troy glaus. here is a list of 2010 free agents, you can scroll down to see the 3rd basemen.

BA

March 23rd, 2009
11:51 am

I think Blanco’s already heading north on I-85, Richbrave. Gwinnett is going to be a AAA powerhouse.

They might trade Prado or Infante, but I bet they are hesitant, considering the amount of time Jones and Escobar missed last season.

And I believe Francoeur could play CF. But I don’t believe it will EVER happen.

Frank from KS

March 23rd, 2009
12:05 pm

Breaking news…….Curt Schilling retires following 23 major league seasons.

I still remember him pitching for the Phils in 93 and sinking us in the playoffs that year.

DAP

March 23rd, 2009
12:13 pm

what sucks is that wren could have gotten hinske AND ohman for what he paid anderson. clearly, anderson is a better overall player than hinske and has alot of experience, but hinske would have been an awesome platoon guy with diaz…and was much cheaper. (sign with the pirates for about $1mil)

Daniel

March 23rd, 2009
12:19 pm

BA- I totally buy what you are saying and I hate it. I just don’t get the fascination with Logan

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