1:00 pm March 22, 2009, by Carroll Rogers
March 22nd, 20094:31 pm
oh and the reason for taking Jurrjens out at the point was a combination of him getting close to his pitch count (he threw 68 pitches – 42 for strikes – and his max was 77) as well as wanting to see how Logan would do in the lefty-lefty matchup. As we go, games are going to be played more like real games.
AdirondackDave (2:47 pm): ”Baseball’s scoring sometimes really doesn’t make sense. JJ had an excellent outing and statistically he gets charged with 3 ER, if I’m not mistaken.”
Mistaken, that is.
1 ER to JJ, 2 ER to Logan.
Eric from MO
March 22nd, 20094:32 pm
Random last I heard Smoltz aint pitching til at least June. His rehab is going to take longer considering his arm is held on by 5 screws and who knows when it will fall off.
March 22nd, 20094:36 pm
Mets fan you are so funny. At least you had a chance on the last day of the season. You should have had more than a chance. You should have had a playoff spot locked up, but I know saying you played a meaningful game on the last day of the season makes you feel good even though you finished with the same fate as the Braves and didn’t make the playoffs.
And yes having those last two months off was great. We were able to start early thinking about next season and what changes we needed to make while you had to start later. And not playing in no pressure games doesn’t mean your’re neccissarily bad. I mean the Cubs had a no pressure series against you guys when you had games on the line and of course you guys lost. Maybe if you had no pressure games you could actually win in september, but no down the stretch you guys stink it up and wilt under the pressure.
Dan (2:48 pm): “What I would do with Ohman is sign him with a miner league contract than try to trade him for a 3B prospect.”
Yeah, well, what else would we expect from an FN genius like you?
March 22nd, 20094:38 pm
Kenny Powers feels that given the fact that the Braves have owned the Mets for as long as Kenny can remember no Mets fan should be allowed to talk smack on a Braves blog. Even when the Braves are bad the mutts dont stand a chance.
March 22nd, 20094:39 pm
Carroll, thanks, and yes, I owe you one.
Andruw Jones has opted to stay with the Rangers.
That’s a smart move on his part. If he feels confident with the help he’s getting, why go somewhere else and lapse into bad habits?
March 22nd, 20094:40 pm
Can we say OVER REACTION!!! Damn people, it is only one game. Before this game you all were saying how great Logan and O’Flaraty have been. Now we are doomed. Thats the problem with Atlanta fans. They over react way too much. Compare them to fans from another city such as St. Louis and you would all look like uneducated fools.
March 22nd, 20094:42 pm
I say resign Ohman and do it now. I felt that he should be resigned even before today’s brutal meltdown against a division opponent playing at half strength.
I think some here have really short memories. They seem to have forgotten what it was like pre Ron Mahay. They forget what a revelation Ohman was until he finally ran out of gas.We need another reliable lefty reliever, we aren’t going to contend in this division without such a guy.
Ohman reportedly is down to looking for $1.5 million/year+incentives. I think that would be a worthy investment for the Braves.
Then again, there is some reason why he remains unsigned, I think it’s economic, but it could be something else we’re not being told yet. Unless it is something that would hurt and disgrace his family or the team, then I say make the investment.
March 22nd, 20094:43 pm
Man, Randy Wolf is looking very sharp for the Dodgers…6 K’s through 3 perfect innings
I’m not sure what’s worse about Dan’s post…tho spelling or the logic
March 22nd, 20094:44 pm
I really suck today
March 22nd, 20094:46 pm
The two lefties had been doing good. This is just one of those games that everybody has. I mean if it becomes a trend then we should be worried. And as for Ohman the Braves made him an offer and he probably should have took that one. He waited and not that it was bad but you take the risk sometimes when you wait. He was great for the Braves last year but there is no gurantee he will be that way this year.
March 22nd, 20094:49 pm
A few comments back someone mentioned Vin Scully. In 1991 I was working in Korea and on a Saturday morning I woke up to listen on Armed Forces Radio to the Braves and Dodgers play (Friday night with the 14 hour time difference). Scully spent the entire game (which the Braves won) talking about the futility of the Braves franchise and how really and truly awful the team was. Needless to say the 91 team went on to become the “Worst to First” Braves and had a remarkable run while the Dodgers went into decline. I can never hear Vin Scully or see mention of him without thinking of that particular time in my life. I have never liked the Dodgers and Scully, though a great voice, was a homer to the nth degree and I have disliked him with a passion since that day.
northbeach Scott (2:49 pm): “Also, really nice not to have to have to suffer through the redneck station 94.9 like the last two seasons. How embarrassing for the Braves and Atlanta to have that steaming pile representing this city.”
Yeah, well I’d ask that you please take a sec and shed a tear for us few enlightened ones that must listen to the games on 640 AM WGST — WGST “Where the Right is never wrong.”
Immediately after the last out today, we were launched into the middle of the “best” of Limabugh.
Enough to make anyone edgy.
March 22nd, 20094:50 pm
I’m not sure which is sadder, Mutt fans coming to a Braves blog trolling for reactions (which is why they are referred to as Trolls) or Mutt fans trying to act like the last two Septembers weren’t really the two worst choke jobs in MLB history.
March 22nd, 20094:53 pm
So Wren consummated the deals for both Kawakami and Lowe, ’cause admit it or not, he really was counting on having Smoltz this season.
Huh? Couldnt he just as easily been planning on signing these guys and if Smoltz wanted to play for us then fine. I dont think it was really a big deal to Wren if he resigned with us. I mean how hard will be to replace 28 innings?
March 22nd, 20094:56 pm
That is a shame about Vin Scully becasue he is actually one of the most fair broadcasters I have ever heard (he is actually similcasting the game today for BOTH the Rangers and Dodgers as we speak)- he just spent the last half inning raving about a great defensive play the Rangers made an inning earlier- but he is certainly not shy about calling out a bad team or bad player/play. When you’ve been doing this as long as he has there is no reason to hold back:)
Frank from KS
March 22nd, 20095:00 pm
northbeachScott re: of your 3:37 p.m. post
Oh definately gotta dig Erin Andrews. I read somewhere some time ago…that she and John Kruk were dating.
How in the world a guy like him could land a hottie such as her is news to me.
Ewww Rush Limbaugh
March 22nd, 20095:01 pm
eric in MO re: year 4:40…spreaking of overreacting….
random rush is a very talented broadcaster. listen and learn.
Random's dinner mashers
I’m sure you noticed politics aren’t allowed on this blog. Keep it up and I’ll revoke your license to spew diarrhea.
March 22nd, 20095:02 pm
The Braves have very good pitching and a solid offense.
I saw this and scratched my head. When did the Braves get a solid offense. Last I checked we have no power, no speed, and we strikeout alot. Not a good recipe for a solid offense. Then I realized KC wrote it. By the way you forgot the Marlins.
March 22nd, 20095:03 pm
Was there anyone who did not see resigning Ohman as a priority for the Braves? I can’t think of anyone who said “no don’t resign him”. Now, suddenly, after less than 7 innings, we have people convinced that Ohman is easily replaceable?
What Ohman did last season, and what Mahay did before him, is not easily replaceable, especially by untested players. That’s the problem with these guys, they haven’t come up in tight situations in real games and gotten the job done.
No matter how you spin it, the guys we have now are largely untested, we have no idea how they will perform once the pressure is on. With Ohman we already know what he can do.
Bringing back Ohman means one less question we’ll have once the season starts.
March 22nd, 20095:04 pm
random also, if wren was counting on smoltz as much as you think he was, why didnt he just pony up another couple of mil, rather than signing two pitchers who both cost WAY more than the most smoltz counld possibly make? not that wren wasnt hoping to bring smoltz back, but i dont think he was over emphasising that.
March 22nd, 20095:09 pm
No reason to bring Ohman back. The Braves can win the Grapefruit League without him.
March 22nd, 20095:13 pm
DAP (2:50 pm): “adrionick dave i thought logan came in with one runner one…either way, yeah…all the runners that were on when logan came out would be charged to jurjens. i agree with you…im not sure if that is fair.”
WHO allowed those baserunners on base in the first place??????? Jurrjens, right???????
And who decided that somebody else besides Jurrjens had a better chance to get out of the inning with no damage????????
You? Me? Jurrjems???????
No — Bobby Cox.
Bobby Cox, who knows more than you, me, and Jurrjens put together times three.
If Logan couldn’t've kept that run from scoring, no way Jurrjens could’ve (at leat in Cox’ estimation – and I am not inclined to argue).
March 22nd, 20095:15 pm
eric in MO Last I checked we have no power, no speed, and we strikeout alot.
no power? cant be sure of that yet. chipper, mccann, and frenchy can all hit 30 HR. (not that it will certinly happen, but its possible) kotchman, yunel, johnson, anderson are all capable of hitting 15 HR. then weve got norton and diaz on the bench who ahve fair power. i think we will be ok.
no speed? one of josh anderson and shafer will make this team, and both have blazing speed. johnson and yunel dont have great SB speed, but they can take extra bases as well as anyone, and chipper is a good baserunner himself.
strikeout alot? not really. this hasnt been a problem for the braves in a couple of years. garret, kotchman, chipper, yunel and mccann all strikeout very little.
March 22nd, 20095:16 pm
Vin Scully’s voice comes floating out of my TV.
…and the new breed includes Tim Kurkjian. (whose voice comes screeching out of the TV like a first time violin student.)
March 22nd, 20095:18 pm
Randam(5:13)And who decided that somebody else besides Jurrjens had a better chance to get out of the inning with no damage????????
You? Me? Jurrjems???????
If Logan couldn’t’ve kept that run from scoring, no way Jurrjens could’ve (at leat in Cox’ estimation – and I am not inclined to argue).
Can you not realize this is March. You are not playing to win these games. During the season JJ would of stayed in. However it is not the season. JJ was close to his pitch count and Cox wanted to see how Logan would do in that situation. Damn, this is Spring Training. Use some common sense.
March 22nd, 20095:19 pm
“saw this and scratched my head. When did the Braves get a solid offense. ” Eric from Mo
Of course it remains to be seen but Tim Dierkes posted this http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2009/03/offseason-in–7.html (link not working for some reason)
“But using CHONE projections, their lineup projects to score a healthy 4.93 runs per game. The Mets and Phillies tied for second in the league last year with that same figure.”
March 22nd, 20095:20 pm
random re: earned runs…either way, jurjens didnt give up the hit that let the run in…the guy was on at first when he left (i think with two outs…?) jurjens shouldnt have been charged with that run.
let me just add that i know this ius just spring training and it doesnt matter, but it happens all the time in real game situations.
my solution would be to not charge the run to anyone’s ERA, but put it on the reliever’s record as an inherited runner scored(% of inherited runners scoring/stranded is already a stat that is recorded), and maybe on the starter’s record as leaving a runner on. it would have to be a seperate stat cetegory to be fair, i think.
March 22nd, 20095:25 pm
” jurjens shouldnt have been charged with that run.” DAP
Just one of many reasons ERA isn’t a good indicator of how good a pitcher is/was/or will be
That would be a pretty apt description…I hadn’t listened to Scully in a while- had almost forgotten what a real broadcaster sounds like…had to believe the man is 81 years old- he sounds exactly the same as he did 20 years ago
March 22nd, 20095:26 pm
meant “hard to believe”
You better give Bowman hell over the game today. They could have at least shown up. How about Aldrich with a triple double. Not bad at all.
Dap(5:15) “chipper, mccann, and frenchy can all hit 30 HR.”
Yeah right. Chipper’s power has declined. He hasnt hit 30 in 5 years. Francouer has never hit 30 and hit a whopping 11 last year and McCann has never hit 25. The Braves were 23rd in homeruns last year and that was with a half season of Tex but you are right. The Braves have all kinds of power.
March 22nd, 20095:30 pm
Dap by the way Atlanta was 27th in stolen bases and 24th in stolen base%. One rookie aint going to change it that much. You can try to say Escobar has good speed, which he does, every team has guys with good speed who dont steal bases. Nothing special about that.
March 22nd, 20095:31 pm
“No reason to bring Ohman back. The Braves can win the Grapefruit League without him.”
You’re so right Chop Chop! I wonder if everyone gets the point though.
March 22nd, 20095:33 pm
Mizzou on a run. Anybody want to jump the Tiger bandwagon?
eric from MOChipper’s power has declined. He hasnt hit 30 in 5 years. Francouer has never hit 30 and hit a whopping 11 last year and McCann has never hit 25. thats all youve got? what about the other stuff? jeff hit 29 HR his first full year. its not a stretch for him to hit 30. chipper hit 29 homers in 2007. last year 22 homres in just 439 ABs. all he needs is the at bats, and he could do it. he still has the power. and as for mccann, who cares if hes never hit 30? lets poll the blog and see how many folks dont think mccann has the potential to hit 30 homers. youll find that almost everyone agrees the he could.
im not saying that the braves have plenty of power. that would be just as premature as saying they dont have any power, like you are. we are gonna have to wait and see what this team gives us. we have the potential to have a decent power hitting team.
March 22nd, 20095:35 pm
Your right DAP. As long as everyone thinks they can do it, then what does it matter? Who cares if they can actually do it and who cares if the stats really back me up. As long as everyone thinks they could do it.
March 22nd, 20095:36 pm
Cuz I mean, polls do win championships right?
March 22nd, 20095:40 pm
Jeff321 (3:13 pm): “I would like to take a moment and wrap a blanket of shame around Eric O’Flaherty! You’ve just become an honorary member of the much touted GIVE IT UP BOYS”
Jeff321: “Am I suppose to forget all the terrible pitching he did last year? Who cares if he was good until fatigue set in? Its all about my last memories.”
So, what you’re saying is that you don’t actually THINK when it comes to baseball analysis and evaluation of players’ performance, you simply only FEEL.
Duly noted, “Make-It-Up-Boy”.
March 22nd, 20095:41 pm
eric from MODap by the way Atlanta was 27th in stolen bases and 24th in stolen base%. One rookie aint going to change it that much.
oh boy…i think we can agree that josh anderson could steal 40 bases in a full season, easily. last year he stole 10. if you add 30 SB to our total, that brings us from 28th to 14th. looks like one rookie can make a big difference.
and “team speed” means more than just SB. and the braves have ok team speed.
March 22nd, 20095:44 pm
Bobby’s Cox (3:16 pm): “I’m saying that maybe that’s why Wren is looking to deal the excess pitching…to free up money for Ohman while trying to get a solid 3B prospect. Could kill 2 birds with 1 stone.”
doG, that’d be great!
eric from MO Who cares if they can actually do it and who cares if the stats really back me up.
there are no stats that back you up. “hes never done it before” isnt a reason. its just as good as “he has done it before” which is what im saying. my point is, its premature for us to assume this team doesnt or does have enough power.
and mccann DOES have the potential to hit 30HR. he just does. were not talking rafael belliard here.
March 22nd, 20095:51 pm
DAP you have to make the team to steal bases. That is going to be a problem for Anderson. Also if you have never done before then that is a stat. I dont know how it can be any more clear. Francouer and McCann have never hit 30 homeruns but since you believe they can that makes it true. God I wished I knew you because I love to gamble and I would love to take your money.
March 22nd, 20095:55 pm
Missouri by 16…anybody else have them winnng it?
March 22nd, 20095:56 pm
“God I wished I knew you because I love to gamble and I would love to take your money”
You could probably hook up with KC on some action.
March 22nd, 20095:58 pm
eric from MO hey man, i dont want to insult you, but thats just dumb. francouer HAS hit 29 homers…since it wasnt 30, youre cinvinced that he wont hit 30? theres not way? chipper hit 29 in 2007, and in 2008 he had like 100 fewer ABs and hit 29…so youre cinvinced there is NO WAY, he can hit 30? mccann has great power. 24 homers inst that far from 30. he has the potential to hit 30. and this:
you have to make the team to steal bases. That is going to be a problem for Anderson
im not sure what you even mean. but anderson stole 10 in his time up here last year. projected over a full season thats 40. so why will it be a problem for him? hes already been able to steal bases at a rate that would move the braves up 10 spots in the SB rankings.
youre just wrong about this team eric, and at times you have sounded very silly. and now i have to leave, sadly. see you later.
March 22nd, 20095:59 pm
I live in the bootheel of Missouri. We are in completely opposite corners of the state.
March 22nd, 20096:06 pm
Since Francouer hit 29 hit 19 in 07 and then 11 in 08. Looks like he is going in the right direction for 30.
I dont know what you are talking about Chipper. He hit 29 in 07 but then you said he hit 29 in 08. If you want to make up stats then I guess stats do support you. However, he actually hit 22 in 08.
Last I checked 24 isnt 30. He has to increase his homerun total 25% to hit 30. Thats a pretty good jump.
I dont know why you dont understand my statement about Anderson. He isnt going to make the team. Schafer’s BA is a 100 points higher, and OBP is 120 points higher. Expect to see Anderson to be traded in the next week or two.
March 22nd, 20096:08 pm
Looks like with the quality of posts from the last hour or so, Anders must have turned the blog over to the Special Olympian commentators. Take it away DAP, Random, and Eric from MO. Obama wants to know if you guys bowl, too?
N Nine (eta14)
March 22nd, 20096:09 pm
and mccann DOES have the potential to hit 30HR. he just does. were not talking rafael belliard hereDAP
Francouer and McCann have never hit 30 homeruns but since you believe they can that makes it true. God I wished I knew you because I love to gamble and I would love to take your money.Eric from MO
I’m all in you calling???
The truth is McCann WILL hit 30 HR’s one day. Just not sure which year. Both players mentioned are very capable of reaching that mark. McCann is a catcher, so yes, It will be tougher for him. The emergence of Ross will hurt the chances…..I’m not complaining , since we do have the top catcher in the game(my opinion,lay off) If McCann was in LF he would have already crushed 33HRs.
March 22nd, 20096:10 pm
March 22nd, 20096:12 pm
McCann will hit 35 home runs this year
March 22nd, 20096:13 pm
spotts — no trouble on that post.
Eric from Who cares?
you guys have no earthly idea what you’re talking about
March 22nd, 20096:18 pm
Chipper hit 22 dingers in 2008.
March 22nd, 20096:19 pm
Why in the world is there a picture of Andruw blasted in our faces? Who cares about whether or not he makes the fu- Rangers? It’s old and he’s way 2 yrs. ago!
I don’t trust this Logan guy either. Another bad outing and it’s trade time. He set the tone for the Mets to blow us out. Practice game or not, Logan should be on top of his game at this point in S.T. if he wants to make the team. O’Flatery is an after thought since he probably wasn’t making the team anyways over Logan. No reason to panic since Wren has set this team up for a trade at any time. So much pitching depth that he can get a very good lefty bp arm if he needs to. We’ll be alright
March 22nd, 20096:23 pm
mbatl, I don’t know what the bet you’re referring to is… but I have a couple of bets for which I’m looking for takers.
First, I am confident that Francoeur will hit at least .295 with 20 homers this year. Any takers?
I also predict that the Braves will in AT LEAST 88 games this year. Anyone?
Open wager invitation!
March 22nd, 20096:26 pm
I will to those prediction that chipper will play 135 games.
McCann will probably hit 28-30 HR’s if he gets the protection from Chipper, G.A., and if Franc. bounces back like he think he will. I think 35 is too many since he is a catcher and he gets worn down a little come Aug/Sep. He definitely has the swing and strength to do it though. He’s trimmed down which should help his energy throughout the season is why I think his power will go up a little.
March 22nd, 20096:31 pm
I can’t help it, so I’ll make one last pre-season prediction…Franc. has shown his better discipline but with very little power so far this spring, so I’ll give him a ‘09 of .284 avg., 18 hr, 84 RBI. The power will come but he’ll still have to adjust to his approach for awhile. That’s my take
Hitting the road back to Orlando here in a minute. DOB’s plane gets in tonight so he might jump in at some point. Thanks again for bloggin with me.
March 22nd, 20096:36 pm
KC I def. dont believe Francouer will hit .295 or 20 homers. If I were to bet I would say .270 with 18 homeruns, which is a big upgrade over last year. I believe the Braves will win 85-87 games. So I guess I would take that wager too. However, without us ever meeting I would never take a bet on here. How do I know you would pay me?
Doc my prediction on Chipper is 120 starts and he plays in 130.
March 22nd, 20096:38 pm
Bye Carroll! Quick few games.I guess you’ll have another computer next time we see you?
KC, .290? This spring has you a believer…
March 22nd, 20096:40 pm
oh .295..Man, someone needs to pickup that bet.
March 22nd, 20096:42 pm
Great job filling in again Carroll (as usual), have a safe trip back home.
March 22nd, 20096:48 pm
N Nine (eta14) you obviously are not familar with KC’s posts. He is always overly optimistic. Its kind of sad because many times he makes good points but his overly optimisiom takes away from them.
March 22nd, 20096:49 pm
I also think JF will hit at least .290 and take in account I have hammered the guy really tough, but to watch him take a walk to a very sharp Santana today convinced me that he has really being doing lots of homework. He looks completely different, no hacking at all.
March 22nd, 20096:52 pm
Chipper has been much healthier last 2 seasons that the previous 2 (2005-2006). 134 and 128 game last 2 seasons, no reason he cant play 135 this season.
March 22nd, 20096:56 pm
Except for the fact that 134 and 128 isnt 135. Not saying he cant do it but he still hasnt the pass few years and he is a year older and already hurt. Now you take my guess 130 and that would go with what his past years would tell you.
March 22nd, 20097:03 pm
I hate seeing Marteens name on mlbtr. He better not get traded. Our biggest need is a lefty pitching for the pen. Not urgent just yet.
Eric from MO___Ya KC loves his Braves!
March 22nd, 20097:08 pm
Was there anyone who did not see resigning Ohman as a priority for the Braves? Kirk
sure there were/are. I didn’t and still don’t. I think the guy had a career year last season and could just as soon flop as not. He was in 83 games but pitched less than 60 innings, so he was basically a Loogy even last season. If the pen stays healthy he would be even more so this year. I understand that a lot on here think that the season is gonna be a total meltdown without him, but not all of us do. the way this board bounces around from zoom to doom each day is entertaining though so keep it up guys.
March 22nd, 20097:09 pm
OK, if McCann doesn’t hit 30 homers this year, I’m holding a lot of you responsible.
Ritchie from Scotland
cheers again Carroll
March 22nd, 20097:13 pm
I’m with you, nolie.
So KC is an optimistic fan who puts his wagers out for all to see. He’s a good fan…good blogger…and consistent in his view, for years. He doesn’t do it to be belittled by someone he doesn’t know, yet who decides to take potshots.
As fans, we all love our Braves, warts and all…and it’s spring…eternal optimism. Hey, there were days when the end of April marked the beginning of the end. We’re not back to those days.
Yes, Carroll. Nice job. Thank you, again.
March 22nd, 20097:18 pm
I still don’t see Kawakami as a very smart signing since Hanson can be ready at any time, probably right now. Shoulda spent that $7M on a bat, Abreu maybe. The rest of that money coulda been put away for later. I know, coulda,shoulda,woulda…but, if that’s all I got to complain about, that’s a damn good sign! G.A. is a solid signing still.
Box score madness– After watching three movies this afternoon from my DVR (What Happens in Vegas, Poison Friends, Smiley Face), I looked at the sad box score. Ugh! Lefties go awry! Meanwhile, saw the Cleveland box score, and there was Andy Marte with two hits and a G. Lombard with a home run. Does anyone know if this is the long ago “super” Braves prospect? Also LittleBridge plays almost every day in center, shortstop, second for the White Sox, and Betemit also playing first for the Sox had two hits today.
Salty and Andrus have had good springs for Texas and Matt Harrison won a number of games for them last year with the “uber-prospect” in the wings. Yet Bravos appear to turn up great prospects over and over. Oh, and Kyle Davies looking like Royals third starter, and catcher Brayan Pena had two hits today. Some of these guys this year really seem like they will be great, but we should remember some history too.
March 22nd, 20097:19 pm
Of all the times for the referees to swallow their damn wistles…with less then 1:30 left of a tie game in the NCAA tournament…
March 22nd, 20097:21 pm
mbatl, I finally saw your ask on Eric Campbell. Lots of pop (the ball comes off his bat with “significance”, as we used to say), nothing-special glove. His peripheral offensive skills seem average at best. But it’s hard to evaluate his talent, for me, because he often just looks as if he isn’t having any fun. How can you excel, if that’s the case?
I know he’s had some problems with depression in the past, and I can’t knock a guy for an illness. But he’s bound to have a hard road, unless he can control his off-the-field stuff. On-the-field just doesn’t show enough to compensate, so far.
I know somebody once said he was talented, but no heart. I’d never go that far in judging a player’s character, but, that kind of opinion doesn’t usually come from whole cloth.
March 22nd, 20097:27 pm
MIZZOU BABY!!! KEEPS MY BRACKET ALIVE!!! WHOOO!!!
March 22nd, 20097:28 pm
ok, nolie, there’s you and….?
nolie, how can last year be a fluke when Ohman has arguably had more effective seasons? Last season he pitched more innings than ever, but he was effective in the seasons before as well.
Flukes don’t repeat their success. Ohman is no fluke.
March 22nd, 20097:34 pm
However, without us ever meeting I would never take a bet on here. How do I know you would pay me? ERIC
good point since he runs off as soon as things go bad.You’d have to go chase him down.
March 22nd, 20097:38 pm
spotts — no trouble on that post.PTBNL
makes me 1 for 3 today
March 22nd, 20097:39 pm
Who’s tuning in to Breaking Bad tonight?
March 22nd, 20097:40 pm
TNBrian, I’m as big a Hanson supporter as anyone, but even I wouldn’t mind kicking him down to AAA for a bit of this season. The stuff and the makeup are clearly there. If he can improve his command just a little, he could be flat out dominant.
I’m also not sold on Kawakami, at all. But it would be grossly unfair to judge him based on his performance so far. He is adjusting to a new ball, new hitters, and a new culture. Give him some time before reaching any conclusions. Also, I think I’d give the nod to Reyes right now as number 5. He’s earned it based on his play this spring, and there is no reason to rush Hanson when he still needs to tweak some things.
March 22nd, 20097:41 pm
kinkinga, he was only half “effective” the year before. Just as there are questions on the blog this year about Logan, there were fears last year of Ohman. He had terrible splits the year before he came here. Many outside Brave’s fandom thought the Braves had made a big mistake, including some seemingly well intended Cubs fans who came to the blog to “warn” us that the Braves will be sorry. Ohman pitched terribly at home games for the Cubs.
March 22nd, 20097:44 pm
how can last year be a fluke when Ohman has arguably had more effective seasons?
Certainly, he has, plus some not quite so effective (a couple of years with a WHIP of about 1.3, some about 1.6). That’s the point. The guy is asking for about $3MM, effectively, for a role that’s bound to be reduced by an effective Moylan, Soriano, and Gonzalez. He had the best WHIP of his career last year; you really think that’s a repeat waiting to happen, and are you ready to bet that much money that it will happen?
March 22nd, 20097:49 pm
TIN BRAIN is that you? I been looking all over tryin’ to connect again sweetie. I heard the whisper of some bad language the other night but by the time I arrived you had slunk off after talking dirty to someone else other han moi. I as reallt sad that you are ignoring me but will talk dirty to others, you big ol’ punky brute. I just love that mean stuff. I shaved my legs and underarms again just last night hopin’ I could find you. C’mon sweetie you know I will always have time for you and be your sex-slave if you will just come back and curse at me some more.
March 22nd, 20097:53 pm
TnBrian re: of your 7:18 pm post
I think Kawakami will end up being the Dice K of the NL.
Dice K wasn’t all that great his first year with the R. Sox but he performed well last season and should up those numbers a bit this season.
Got agree with nolie and PTBNL there is just about as good chance Ohman will not be really good last year as a chance he will be good. Now I personally wanted him then looked at his past years and other than 05 he hasnt been that good. I would be weary about giving him a nice pay raise. Wouldnt blame Wren if he did it but also wouldnt blame him if he didnt.
March 22nd, 20097:59 pm
Epinephrine (3:22 pm): “you are getting you history wrong. You are forgetting the fact that we signed Lowe and Kawakami after the Smoltz departure. I doubt we would have picked up both if we hadn’t lost JS.”
No — that’s exactly what I said.
If Smoltz had not signed with the Sox — if the Braves had re-signed Smoltz — they’d've probably signed only one of Lowe or Kawakami — most likely Kawakami.
What comment of mine (time?) did you misread?
March 22nd, 20098:01 pm
We’ve got some seriously gusty wind out here in LA right now…if it keeps up it could make for an interesting WBC game
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