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Andy K.
March 21st, 2009
2:07 pm
Jim, yes.
Il Cattivo
March 21st, 2009
2:09 pm
propp
With McCann leading the catching corps “Thin” is not a word I would use.
Random
March 21st, 2009
2:09 pm
PWHjort (1:17 pm): “I don’t understand,”
Didja foller the link I gave ya???
If not, ferget it.
Idjit.
Wayne in Utah
March 21st, 2009
2:09 pm
Medlen is a good looking kid. Bobby is going to have quite a few choices for the bullpen, if early indications are correct.
And as to “needs” for our club, I would say that we have needs everywhere, and nowhere. We have some decent choices at many positions. Behind McCann, we could use a young catcher in the low minors with some potential (unless we have one I am not aware of)
We think of guys like Heyward, Freeman, Gorkys, etc as our future. But, we have a few others like Hicks, Campbell and CJohnson. But I guess we might be a bit lean at the infield positions.
Jim
March 21st, 2009
2:09 pm
Is Morton anywhere close to being ready to pitch, or will he be sent directly to the minor league camp?
Supes
March 21st, 2009
2:10 pm
OK, Jeff hitting a double, I can live with that. I can live with lots of doubles and hitting for average, and HR numbers that are down. I said I would crucify Jeff if he repeated his 08 performance (on the blogs anyways:) but so far he’s been making contact, hitting with RISP too.
Interested Observer, don’t get me wrong. I hold my breath everytime McCann gets dinged up, or is involved in some collision at home plate, b/c just like you, I’m well aware we are one “play away” from having the catching combo or Ross (a very capable backup actually, but not a starter) and Sammons at Catcher.
So I do think and I know they’ll develop another prospect at catcher, I just don’t ever see anyone being better than B-Mac (for the next 8-10 years) that may come through the system, to where we consider B-Mac expendable.
3B we both agree is the immediate need, as far as prospects. We are set at SS (Esco), 2B (Kelly), 1B (Kotchman) (next 2 years) then a FA…and you’ve got Freeman to take over from that point on.
OF, we’ve got Jordan S. B. Heyward taking over very soon, plus I anticipate at least 1 trade or a FA move in the near future for another OF position player (talking 2010 and beyond here) that will be an impact middle of the lineup type run producer.
So other than Chipper, who’s got 2-3 more good years left (if healthy), we are set (I believe), but I’m just not sure if Hicks is the 3B prospect that will be the one to take over for Chipper.
Think about what the Braves would need to replace, one of the greatest switch hitters of all time, and a pretty darn good fielder (enough of this fielding baseball bible CRAP, I know what I see with my own eyes, Chipper is a darn good glove man!).
Now I don’t expect them to “find that player” right away, but I’m hopeful in the next few years, that the next Evan Longoria will be wearing a BRAVES Minor League Team uniform:)
Woogidy
March 21st, 2009
2:10 pm
frank, WKLS
propp
March 21st, 2009
2:11 pm
Hey, McCann has thinned enough to double his triple output this year
Wayne in Utah
March 21st, 2009
2:13 pm
Sorry Jim, but Random is such an azz. Hard to let him go on with his drivvel with no response.
My error. I will refrain from this point on.
Is Francoeur finding that power stroke???
Wayne in Utah
March 21st, 2009
2:13 pm
Dale Murphy is in the mlb audio both…..what a treat!!
Wayne in Utah
March 21st, 2009
2:15 pm
Supes
It can never hurt to have 3-4 good prospects in the wings at every position, as most of the time, a prospect doesn’t really make it big in the bigs.
Carroll Rogers
March 21st, 2009
2:15 pm
Norton just put on a swing like i saw in BP. double to right center.
I’d bet when he is ready Morton will have to pitch on the minor league side, now that guys are honing in on getting ready for the season. I don’t expect him to be. He’s missed all of spring so far and has to build up arm strength. He’s been playing some catch and I think maybe a side session or two but that’s it. waiting, doing what the trainers tell him.
Carroll Rogers
March 21st, 2009
2:15 pm
there’s a walk for schafer, but two runners stranded on an Esco flyout
Interested Observer
March 21st, 2009
2:17 pm
Supes, I think we’re pretty much in agreement. We’re fortunate to have so much depth in the minors. Besides the 3B prospect and such we’ve discussed, we may just be in a position to trade a reliever without options for a young reliever with options.
PWHjort
March 21st, 2009
2:18 pm
Oh, you’re trying to pick another fight about the SS-3B thing. No thanks. I’m done discussing the issue. Which I’ve made my point on. I previously said I bet Hicks will do fine at 3B since he’s so young, if that’s what you’re looking for.
Random
March 21st, 2009
2:18 pm
Bay Area Steve (1:24 pm): “anyone . . . who wants the play-by-play: try m.mlb.com”
Thanks — and MLB Gameday’s rye cheer.
PWHjort
March 21st, 2009
2:19 pm
Supes, hitting with RISP is not a repeatable skill.
ColoradoBravesFan
March 21st, 2009
2:21 pm
Posted by Supes…OF, we’ve got Jordan S. B. Heyward taking over very soon, plus I anticipate at least 1 trade or a FA move in the near future for another OF position player (talking 2010 and beyond here) that will be an impact middle of the lineup type run producer.
I agree, and I think it will be a big RH middle of the order bat, for either LF. The Braves are really LH heavy in our line up. BMac, K. Johnson, Schafer, Heyward, Freeman. All these good LH bats we will need Francouer and anothr middle of the order RH bat to balance out the line-up.
GO BRAVOS
Carroll Rogers
March 21st, 2009
2:21 pm
Perfect first inning for Campillo on a pop-up and two groundouts.
Tomas
March 21st, 2009
2:22 pm
Quick inning by Campillo(I think).
PWHjort
March 21st, 2009
2:22 pm
ColoradoBravesFan, KJ, BMac, and Kotchman all hit lefties just as well or better than righties, so a RH bat isn’t as big of a need as we think. It’s overblown.
Smokey Joe Wood
March 21st, 2009
2:25 pm
Ron Shandler has the following projections for Schafer, based on his minor league stats (they do it the right way–the Sabremetric way, as pioneered by Bill James). Based on 505 AB. I’d take this, but I would hope the BA (and thus the OB and OPS) would be a little higher.
R:65, RBI:71, HR:14, SB:17, BA:.242, OB:.334, SLG:.404, OPS:738
Jay212033
March 21st, 2009
2:29 pm
“braves have got to be thin at catcher, traded Salty, Ramirez, and Flowers recently.”
Um………..you might not believe this but we have plenty more catcher and I mean plenty more catchers who have very good upside.
Christian Bethancourt, 17 – He was one of our top international pick ups a season ago.
Daniel Elorrgoria-Matra, 19 – Before his injury last season in the GCL he was the best hitter there.
Matt Kennelly, 20 – He was in Braves camp earlier and the kid is good. Saw him in Rome and I really like what I saw.
Braeden Schulber, 21 – I might have butchered his name and age just going off the top of my head but he was drafted this past season and he plays great defense and is pretty fast for a catcher.
Plus we still have Britton and Sammons.
Brandon
March 21st, 2009
2:32 pm
any game updates?
cvbraves
March 21st, 2009
2:33 pm
Catchers: How about Boscan and Colina in ST.
spotts
March 21st, 2009
2:33 pm
They should have included bobby cox in the poll “Greatest Brave Ever”
Oh dear
Carroll Rogers
March 21st, 2009
2:33 pm
that’s six in a row retired by Campillo
cvbraves
March 21st, 2009
2:34 pm
5-0 Braves after 5 and half.
Steve from OH
March 21st, 2009
2:35 pm
Boscan and Colina are the definition of “minor league filler”
Jay212033
March 21st, 2009
2:35 pm
cvbraves,
Those guys are career minor leaguers.
propp
March 21st, 2009
2:36 pm
seems like the Braves’ half of the innings are going even quicker than the Mets’
Leland
March 21st, 2009
2:41 pm
Come on, Frenchy. Hit dat baw. You better’n he are.
PWHjort
March 21st, 2009
2:44 pm
Jim Powell is a good announcer.
McFann :Ô:
March 21st, 2009
2:45 pm
Propp Hey, McCann has thinned enough to double his triple output this year
Yeah, seriously…
Supes I hold my breath everytime McCann gets dinged up, or is involved in some collision at home plate
Me, too…can’t stand those foul balls to the hand! Chase Utley’s elbow thrown to his head doesn’t do anything for me, either…those other collisions go without saying.
William
March 21st, 2009
2:49 pm
Once again I must say……………The Francoeur haters are VERY quite lately. Oh wait, let me guess………they are fans now. Funny stuff.
Jay212033
March 21st, 2009
2:53 pm
Powell is a very good announcer!!!
Random
March 21st, 2009
2:53 pm
Jim (2:06 pm): “if you can’t keep to baseball will you JUST SHUT UP!!!!!”
Sorry, sorry — not instigatin’, just respondin’ to others.
(PS: I hope to doG that you will likewise chime in when the talk turns to basketball, football, food, music, buildings, top ten pin-up girls, etc, etc, etc — don’t be shy, now.)
TnBrian
March 21st, 2009
2:55 pm
Even though Church and Murphy are probably the only guys on the opening lineup for the Muts and they both pretty much suck, Glavine with 3 scoreless is still good. You know he has to be getting good movement with his pitches. Man, if T.G. can get his fastball up to at least 87 in a month or so, with his changeup, he’d can probably put up his ‘07 #’s.
cvbraves
March 21st, 2009
2:55 pm
Diaz, Schafer back to back singles…battom of 7th.
Jay212033
March 21st, 2009
2:56 pm
Schafer is hitting lefties very well this spring
cvbraves
March 21st, 2009
2:59 pm
Kelly sca fly, Diaz scores, Schafer to 3rd, B.Jones up, 6-1 Braves
mbatl
March 21st, 2009
3:00 pm
“Man, if T.G. can get his fastball up to at least 87 ”
TnBrian, if Glavine gets his fastball to 87 he’ll probably win the Cy Young. If he can get it to 82 consistently, he might be a good 5th starter.
“Sorry, sorry — not instigatin’, just respondin’ to others.” – Randon. Why not take the high road and just not go there. Politics is verboten, whether you’re starting the thread or just responding. JUST SAY NO.
steve_97060
March 21st, 2009
3:01 pm
here is a link from SI on managing that some (coach) might find interesting..
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/joe_posnanski/03/20/royals.gobble/index.html
cvbraves
March 21st, 2009
3:01 pm
B. Jones single, Jordan scores, 7-1 Braves
TnBrian
March 21st, 2009
3:01 pm
While they still have value,I say trade Campillo,Reyes, and a minor league kid for a bullpen arm, or like mentioned here, a good infield prospect. I just think if we could get another lefty bp arm before the season hits, it would be a smart move. Ohman woulda been nice, but not for the price. An IF pros. would be a smart way to go too.
propp
March 21st, 2009
3:02 pm
if Glavine stays healthy all season, regardless of how hard he throws, he’ll be a good fifth starter
Doc Holiday
March 21st, 2009
3:02 pm
Hope ANDERS is not listening to the game……he is a good guy, does not deserve so much punishment.
N Nine (eta15)
March 21st, 2009
3:02 pm
Brandon Jones has really improved. Gonna be fun seeing ya in Gwinnett!
SCRusty
March 21st, 2009
3:03 pm
I can see the braves drafting or trading for more catching prospects. Can’t think of a whole lot of catchers having long big league careers other than the one in the HOF. Besides, BMac could follow the Joe Torre route:
Step one: Lose weight. (He’s doing that.)
Step two: Switch to 3rd base. (After Chipper retires.)
Step three: Batting title, MVP
Step four: Longer career.
propp
March 21st, 2009
3:04 pm
Gwinnett should sail to the IL championship this year
Doc Holiday
March 21st, 2009
3:04 pm
PROPP,
I wouldnt be so sure, its a good think we have campillo around.
propp
March 21st, 2009
3:08 pm
I’m thinking that pitting Glavine against the other fifth starters in the league….just likeing the Braves chances
cvbraves
March 21st, 2009
3:10 pm
Moylan (top of 8): E-5 (man on 1st), 6-3 DP (2 outs), E-7 (man on 2nd..what, they called it a double), F-7, 3 0uts.
TnBrian
March 21st, 2009
3:11 pm
propp, I to think he’ll be a good fifth starter even if he tops out at like 82-83mph on his fastball. But, with his ch.up, if he could put some more speed on his fb, it can make a huge difference. I was just thinking, even though he ain’t gettin any younger, he could have better arm strength than he’s had in awhile. It’s just hard to know with TG cause he’s never had any kind of surgery. 87mph might be a little much, I’ll admit, maybe 84-85mph.
Woogidy
March 21st, 2009
3:12 pm
Yeah, stroke of genius moving AAA to gwinnett with all these good kids gonna be there. I think they’ll run away with it. Let’s hope they do, because if they don’t that would mean all the good players are in ATL filling in for injured big leaguers.
propp
March 21st, 2009
3:14 pm
I agree, gotta feel more comfortable getting to the mid 80’s, but it won’t be like Redmond, toe nail or not. TG knows how to pitch, whether his fastball is 82 or 85.
Jay212033
March 21st, 2009
3:14 pm
Just like most Braves fans thought that Rome would have the best young staff in the minors this past season and what happened?!?!
Carroll Rogers
March 21st, 2009
3:14 pm
Just up from talking to Glavine….He seems cautiously optimistic to borrow a cliche. Taking the next step. Obviously watching velocity himself, and knowing he can’t read too much into what he did with the lineup he was facing, but he’s comfortable that he’s moving in the right direction.
Bumped into Jeff, who thinks today was his best day of spring, really felt good coming off his bat. he said is starting to feel what he needs to do one swing to the next, what adjustments he needs to make.
Moylan allowed a baserunner on a bloop hit but otherwise a perfect eighth.
And a line from the backfields, Jo-Jo Reyes pitched 4 1/3 innings in a minor league game vs. the Nats, allowing two hits, one walk and striking out six.
Carroll Rogers
March 21st, 2009
3:16 pm
double down the right field line for Freeman. it’s now 7-1 in the bottom of the eighth by the way
cvbraves
March 21st, 2009
3:16 pm
Bottom of 8th: Freeman doubles to lead off.
N Nine (eta15)
March 21st, 2009
3:17 pm
Speaking of Gwinnett, Id be somewhat disappointed if Jordan is their starting center fielder. Clearly he is ready and he should not be delayed. The ONLY argument against this is of course losing Anderson while not waiting until July to get that extra year for Jordan.
Carroll Rogers
March 21st, 2009
3:17 pm
oops, wrong on Moylan. Didn’t see the error and DP. thanks cvbraves
N Nine (eta15)
March 21st, 2009
3:17 pm
…but why waste a couple months with Anderson, when we all know the kid won’t last an entire season
Doc Holiday
March 21st, 2009
3:18 pm
propp,
Yankees have Petit as their 5th starter…..thats is depth.
garlick
March 21st, 2009
3:21 pm
N Nine, there’s some thought to waiting till right before opening day and trying to pass Anderson through waivers when all the teams have their rosters already set. It happens all the time, because teams don’t want to pick up a guy on waivers who they don’t know will work in their line up and have already invested all of spring into helping them make a team.
I wouldn’t be surprised if the Braves tried that.
propp
March 21st, 2009
3:21 pm
Doc, Pettite is their fifth until Burnett breaks down in April. still I wouldn’t write the Braves off if it was Glavine versus Pettite
Pat
March 21st, 2009
3:22 pm
Conrad just missed a grand slam foul
Carroll Rogers
March 21st, 2009
3:25 pm
bases loaded double down the first base line by Brooks Conrad plates two and makes it 9-1 Braves, runners at second and third nobody out in the eighth
Pat
March 21st, 2009
3:25 pm
2 run double for conrad 9-1 atlanta
N Nine (eta15)
March 21st, 2009
3:26 pm
AdirondackDave
March 21st, 2009
3:30 pm
What’s happening in the bottom of the 8th, anybody know?
radoncbravesfan
March 21st, 2009
3:30 pm
josh anderson 3 run bomb
Minnesota Jacket
March 21st, 2009
3:30 pm
how did the mets score?
Carroll Rogers
March 21st, 2009
3:30 pm
three-run homer for Josh Anderson into the braves bullpen in right field. now 12-1. his second home run of Grapefruit League play
cvbraves
March 21st, 2009
3:31 pm
3-run pinch hit homer by Josh, 12-1 Braves, going to 9th.
AdirondackDave
March 21st, 2009
3:32 pm
Whew, I know these are mostly minor league guys, but still….
McFann :Ô:
March 21st, 2009
3:33 pm
SCRusty Step two: Switch to 3rd base. (After Chipper retires.)
What? You gotta be kidding me. He ain’t moving to third base.
N Nine (eta15)
March 21st, 2009
3:33 pm
Josh Anderson just countered punched my recent remarks…
AdirondackDave
March 21st, 2009
3:34 pm
Looks to me like the Braves have 5 outfielders that can help the team and deserve to start. Wonder how Bobby is going to sort this out.
AdirondackDave
March 21st, 2009
3:35 pm
Make that 6 outfielders. I forgot Blanco.
propp
March 21st, 2009
3:35 pm
i think alot of people are hard on Josh Anderson because they want Shaffer to play in Atlanta so badly. Josh really is a decent outfielder and could be pretty good. Not saying he is better than Shaffer, but just saying
Carroll Rogers
March 21st, 2009
3:37 pm
Blaine Boyer pitched a perfect ninth, just hit 95 on the gun. Braves win 12-1
Chop Chop
March 21st, 2009
3:38 pm
If this team doesn’t win the World Series, I’ll be disappointed.
TnBrian
March 21st, 2009
3:38 pm
I’m nervous and excited about Francoeur just cause anybody with a brain cell knows he’s the key for the offense. Pitching wins, but throw clucth hits in there to. McGriff, Justice, Pendelton, and Gant were some clutch MF’s, especially McGriff and Justice. If we could have Franc., Chipper and Mac be clutch, the pitching and D. will get us to the playoffs.
Jim
March 21st, 2009
3:39 pm
I count 7 outfielders — 2 Andersons, Schafer, Francouer, Diaz, B. Jones, and, Blanco — and with the extended look that Heyward and Freeman are getting because of the WBC, their ETA might be advanced
Random
March 21st, 2009
3:39 pm
William (2:49 pm): “Once again I must say……………The Francoeur haters are VERY quite lately.”
Yeah, well that may because their “genius” ringleader, Jeff321, has taken a vow of offensive silence. (We could only hope — perhaps he should be known as JeffZero?)
N Nine (eta15)
March 21st, 2009
3:40 pm
McFann
The DOB/MIB draft was today and I stole McCann!! I haven’t watched him much this spring but I’m sure he’s set for those triples that I’m counting on. I’m excited we cann watch the BEST catcher there is. Dude’s a doubles machine and now he might get more..!
TnBrian
March 21st, 2009
3:43 pm
I’m not taking anything away from the Braves, but what’s going on! How are we handing other teams their as– all spring? Maybe we are the sh-! Or other teams just have sh- prospects, because that’s what ST games are full of, mostly prospects trying out.
cvbraves
March 21st, 2009
3:44 pm
Thanks, Carroll.
AdirondackDave
March 21st, 2009
3:44 pm
Jim — You’re right, I just can’t count anymore. And they are all looking good. I tell you, the Braves could field 2 major league starting staffs, 2 outfields, and about 1.5 infields. Been watching baseball for 60 years and I don’t remember a team so deep. All kinds of things can happen (and probably will), but you have to be very optimistic about the coming season and years ahead for the Braves.
Random
March 21st, 2009
3:45 pm
mbatl (3:00 pm): “JUST SAY NO.”
NO, DOGGAMNIT, NO!!! No no no!!!!!!
whew
Easier said than done.
N Nine (eta15)
March 21st, 2009
3:51 pm
lol Random
DAP
March 21st, 2009
3:51 pm
the way this team is set up, it seems like the only trades that would makes sense would be out of options guys for relievers, or a few of our young position players for a superstar. the braves may be in a position soon to trade for an absolute stud from somewhere.
Chop Chop
March 21st, 2009
3:54 pm
Random,
“Quite” what?
Dude, you’re not going to hold William to a lofty grammatical standard?
For shame.
Mekons
March 21st, 2009
3:56 pm
I wish the season started tomorrow. It’s pretty hard not to be excited by this team. Wren has done a masterful job of fixing the rotation and the outfield. There are going to be some very painful cuts near the end ST. Heyward and Freeman, of course, are going back down, but after that, it’s going to be tough to send Jones or Schafer or Anderson down, although two of the three are certainly going, probably with Blanco.
Carroll Rogers
March 21st, 2009
4:04 pm
Tommy Hanson will throw in a minor league game on Tuesday. His turn is now the same day as Javier Vazquez, who is back from the WBC. They’ll keep Hanson and Jo-Jo Reyes going on the backfields and have them ready in case.
mets fan in atlanta
March 21st, 2009
4:13 pm
I am embarassed right now, cause i had just written a beautiful post making fun of most of you but apparently my cursor was on the subscribe link below, i accidentally clicked it and lost my whole diatribe.
Here’s the short message (cause i’m not typing it again).
Take off the braves-colored glasses and realize that Bobby Cox is going from a directive on high that the Braves had to win this spring training. For the last couple weeks, if i looked at the braves lineup, it looks like it could be a major league lineup (with the exception of
Freeman and Heyward–they obviously won’t be on the team). When you look at the opposing lineup, its a collection of hasbeens and neverwillbe’s. Against the braves the last 4 days, the Mets have run out AA and AAA lineups with at most 3 regulars sprinkled in. But notice, they don’t care if they win or lose these games. Their fanbase is already excited, and rightly so. The braves fanbase was wilting, season ticket sales were down, so Spring Training has been win at all costs basically. Could you imagine how many people would be at Turner Field if the braves limped through spring training with a losing record????
This is why spring training W-L record doesn’t count and if the Braves even have a winning record after two weeks in the regular season, i will come on here and apologize.
BravesAc
March 21st, 2009
4:28 pm
Nice to see all the Braves draft/prospect talk. I agree they are pretty thin at 3B prospects…but they have the 7th overall choice in the upcoming draft. It would seem to be an excellent opportunity to add to Brave’s depth.
Donavon Tate a Ga high school outfielder could possibly fall like Heyward did. Then there are 2 really top notch high school lefty pitchers…Matzek and Purke. Kind of doubt of the Braves would take a college guy so you have to look at the high school ranks. Matzek is really polished – something the Braves love in a lefty.
This is from Baseball America’s Feb pre-draft look…
1. Stephen Strasburg, rhp, San Diego State
The difference between him and the rest of this draft class is so huge, it’s hard to imagine anyone closing it.
2. Grant Green, ss, Southern California
Five-tool shortstop drew comparisons to Evan Longoria, Troy Tulowitzki in the Cape Cod League last summer.
3. Alex White, rhp, North Carolina
Pick your poison: He can make you look silly with his fastball, slider or splitter.
4. Dustin Ackley, 1b, North Carolina
College baseball’s best pure hitter has surprising speed, could boost his stock further with a move to center.
5. Donavan Tate, of, Cartersville (Ga.) HS
The son of former NFL running back Lars Tate is easily the best high school position player available.
6. Aaron Crow, rhp, Fort Worth Cats (Independent)
May go higher in the draft after failing to sign with the Nationals as the No. 9 overall pick in 2008.
7. Tyler Matzek, lhp, Capistrano Valley HS, Mission Viejo, Calif.
Scouts slightly prefer him to Matt Purke because he’s more physical and does things a little more easily.
8. Matt Purke, lhp, Klein (Texas) HS
Has a little more power to his arsenal than Matzek, plus a track record of starring with Team USA and at showcases.
9. Kyle Gibson, rhp, Missouri
Already has been very successful with a solid fastball and a nifty slider, and he has lots of projection remaining.
10. Kendal Volz, rhp, Baylor
Didn’t surrender an earned run in 14 innings as Team USA’s closer last summer.
THE BEAR Illegitimi non carborundum
March 21st, 2009
4:30 pm
mets fan in atlanta
When your team loses as badly as the Mutts have lost this year to Atlanta you surely have to have an excuse. And you came through. Your words come off as a bit of a fluff job, an all out effort to try to make yourself feel better. Hope it worked.
BlawgDawg
March 21st, 2009
4:32 pm
mets fan in atlanta Your not really that much of an idiot that you think that the Braves front office ordered Bobby to make sure they are winning in spring training now are you? And I guess your convenietly forgetting that the Braves were without several players due to the WBC as well huh. Ever heard of Chipper Jones, Brian McCann, Javy Vasquez, etc?
And I fully expect to see you on here in mid-April with your apology, or not only are you an idiot, your a liar too.