12:13 pm March 20, 2009, by Carroll Rogers
March 20th, 200910:47 pm
Sometimes when I refresh, instead of getting new posts, I lose half the ones that were already there. These puter dudes must be guzzlin absinthe in the “storage room.” lol
When’s the last time the “Best in football” Big 12 won a national championship?
March 20th, 200910:49 pm
Ok, you can say it, but thank Gawd I can’t hear it. lol
I gotta go with the SEC as best in football, and a toss-up between the ACC and Big East in basketball.
Gotta give a lot of credit to the Big 12, though…they consistantly have top teams in both sports year after year.
March 20th, 200910:53 pm
But I think we can all hold hands and agree that the Big “10″ is a joke no matter the sport.
Hook em Horns is right for tomorrow. Go Texas
March 20th, 200910:54 pm
Man I loved the Herschel Walker years. Prolly most fun I ever had watching football, and Larry Munson was in his absolute prime. Georgia football then was a weekend event second to none. I know it still is, but there was just something about the atmosphere at the time. Sweet it was.
March 20th, 200910:56 pm
Big 10 = Big Hen = Fowl = Foul
March 20th, 200910:57 pm
Told y’all I’uza rocket scientist.
I prefer “Little 11″ but to each his own
March 20th, 200911:15 pm
HOOKEM HORNS!!! Hookem Diaz!!! Hookem Chipper!!!
March 20th, 200911:43 pm
Did everyone leave? or am i having tech diff with the blog
March 20th, 200911:55 pm
Enter your comments here
March 20th, 200911:56 pm
I think that everyone left…I am still looking for you Mr. Anders.
March 20th, 200911:57 pm
Everyone left, but it’s the Big 10’s fault
March 21st, 200912:13 am
You are confusing role players with real stars.
I spent a dozen years working in the minors and scouting. I ain’t confusing anything. There have been many players who were thought of as star prospects that have done well in the minors including AAA who were not able to carry it through in the bigs. And I do not mean guys like Hessman or Thornton.Brad Komminsk comes immediately to mind, as does Bruce Chen. Both were considered premiere prospects and both failed to take that last step at the major league level.
AAA is tougher than AA. Most prospects like you say play in AAA as well as AA, though some may be called uo early from AAA. Sometimes the very highest talent might seem to be in AA but that is a small percent of the playing pool and the remaining base of players is better in AAA than in AA.
March 21st, 200912:16 am
March 21st, 200912:19 am
Some great b-ball right now. some unbelievable finishes. good stuff
March 21st, 200912:20 am
Sienna and Cleveland State came to play for keeps.
The movie “American Splendor” has a relaxed rhythm/ cadence that makes it enjoyable for multiple viewings. It is like “12 Angry Men” in that way. Movies should be more relaxed more often. Movies should be more like Tom Petty. That is all.
Not when you picked Ohio State, FSU, and Wake
March 21st, 200912:21 am
Tough break for Ohio
March 21st, 200912:22 am
Man, thats why I don’t bet on the tourney – way too unpredictable
March 21st, 200912:23 am
Obamas brackets already a bust and he’s a hell of a lot smarter than yours truly
March 21st, 200912:24 am
FSU beats Duke but loses to Wisconsin. Wake beats Duke and UNC but can’t handle Cleveland State. OSU loses at home to a crayon. Awesome, guys….
March 21st, 200912:26 am
spotts, What do you mean by crayon? no comprehende
my b….FSU never beat Duke in 3 tries.
Where’s the night crew? Seems like almost no posts this evening. Is this dang thing broken again?
March 21st, 200912:27 am
Burnt Sienna is a Crayola classic
N Nine (eta15)
Were you tricking us with the count last night?
Can’t wait to see Glavine pitch 2morrow..I’m sure if he struggles the Hanson debate will heat up, that is unless KK’s shoulder falls off…
I say trade time for Buddy. Sell him high.
March 21st, 200912:29 am
Ahh, its been a long time!
ah there some of you are. Unfortunately talkin’ ’bout that roundball game for which I have absolutely no interest. Carry on men
March 21st, 200912:31 am
Where do you think Schafer should play???
March 21st, 200912:33 am
nolie – I’m not a huge basketball fan, but you have to appreciate the tourney. Imagine if football started a 16 team tourney? BCS is inferior.
Bay Area Steve
March 21st, 200912:43 am
Did somebody say whiskey?
nolie, more on your background, please. I’m jealous.
March 21st, 200912:46 am
Already sitting on a little Jim n Ginger. Bay Area Steve – no offense but I was just browsing previous posts and that Anders post was damn funny. Sorry man.
March 21st, 200912:47 am
I thought of that Burnt Sienna crayon, too. I guess I just notice when people misspell stuff. It sucks.
March 21st, 200912:52 am
uga-brave – whiskey?
March 21st, 200912:54 am
Frankie, I agree, the man can make a solid post. It’s just that the other 80% of the time, he’s worse than Robert. And, that’s hard to do. ‘Tis like being worse than me. And, he’s a douche bag; don’t forget that.
Chop Chop, sorry for te tpyo,
Hey, Anders not a bad guy, he might get pesky at times. Overall he’s a funny valuable dude for the blog. He brought entertainment today and got crushed by DOB
I agree Frankie Knuckles
March 21st, 200912:55 am
beer, beer, maker’s shot, beer. well not actually.
that would of been twenty years ago.
tonight a bottle of mark west pinot noir.
no tnbrian, they dont sell that one chilled at the golden pantry.
Forget the NCAA bracket. I’ve got a UGA/Count Choppula bracket working. 50/50 baby.
March 21st, 200912:59 am
long day. had dinner at chops tonight, beers before dinner wine during and a glass of port after dinner.
either way i will now resume my budweiser drinking schedule.
March 21st, 20091:04 am
bay area steve,
no doubt you are one of my favorites, but the anders’ post the other day about not wanting one of our gun toting fans and so forth was priceless.
the dude was also right on soriano.
bas, way to many homers on this blog.
in five days they will be lamenting the loss of jorge campillo.
March 21st, 20091:05 am
N Nine – Darn right! – What fun is it to go to, for instance, a sports bar and find out that the whole place pulls for your team? I know i’m equating this blog to a sports bar – whatever. What fun would would a movie be if there was only a protagonist.
March 21st, 20091:08 am
A lotta homers, no doubt. Hell, I’m a homer, as much as I try otherwise. But, I can’t respect a guy who can’t shut up when he’s right. We’re all right sometimes, we’re all wrong sometimes. Make a post, let it stand. Let me decide for myself whether you were right.
March 21st, 20091:14 am
and there lies the rub.
i just read and at times make idiotic comments. actually make a lot of idiotic comments.
i dont take it seriously, i just have fun.
love reading the prediction fiction this time of year.
March 21st, 20091:16 am
UGA don’t feel like being the count tonight? Too much drinks?Bay Area Steve sniffed that one out. I don’t care whatever….
March 21st, 20091:17 am
keith olberman is on bill maher tonight.
well ah, no comment.
Agreed Steve, but its nice to have personality on the blog. I live in Charlotte, NC so i’m surrounded by Yankees and Mets fans, but its cool. I truly feel bad for the Yankee fans – they only hope to buy FAs and don’t get to experience the life cycle that is the Braves.
March 21st, 20091:23 am
who the count? where’s mcarver?
March 21st, 20091:26 am
might wanna ask braveheart about that moniker.
March 21st, 20091:29 am
uga-brave – did you ever see the Maher show where he had O’reilly on and Bill destroyed Maher? It was funny to see a man of Maher’s ego get owned. I don’t think O’reilly was ever a guest again.
March 21st, 20091:33 am
I’d like to see a no-holds-barred ego match between O’Reilly, Hannity, Limbaugh, Olbermann, and Maher.
March 21st, 20091:37 am
Nolie: Sometimes the very highest talent might seem to be in AA but that is a small percent of the playing pool and the remaining base of players is better in AAA than in AA.
I don’t think we are disagreeing here. There are many players who reach their peak at AA and management knows it. At AAA there are AAAA players, AAA players, and real talents making a brief stop. See Andruw, Chipper, Klesko, et al. Pitchers are more likely to successfully jump to the majors from AA. Hitters need some chance to regularly see ML level pitchers before they do it for real.
Just for instance, Willie Mays jumped from AA to the majors and went 0-32 or something like that. He was about to quit, but Durocher told him he was going to start in CF no matter what. In these days, even with Bobby Cox, there would not be that large a margin of error.
March 21st, 20091:43 am
I think Anders post some great comments but recently he has just been bashing the hell out of the braves. I dont know why he was fine for the longest time until recently. I know he is a Mutt fan and he can get little jabs every now and then no problem just not constantly. Anders if you read this I like your posts just not when you continually bash the braves. Sorry for being a jerk.
March 21st, 20091:46 am
Where would you like Schafer to be? Me personally is if he is having a better spring than Anderson why cant he be the starting CF. There is the argument that this is spring training. Well my argument would be is Schafer is facing Major League pitchers the first 4-6 innings how is he doing then. He seems to be doing just fine since he is hitting .400 and Anderson a measly .190
March 21st, 20091:51 am
I think my post got dropped.
Uga, just tryin’ to say, if you’re our resident name-changer, well done. I woulda bet it was bubd, Random, or jjs back to mess with us. That said, the Count sucks, in my drunken opinion.
And, I still like the Deion bit, as stupid as it is. Although, that may not be saying much, as I’m comparing it to the goo guy.
March 21st, 20091:55 am
TN – understood! It seems parties have strayed from the value they should represent and instead just want the vote. Darn shame. Its sad Americas memory is so short. Less than a life time ago the Nazis were within a few months of owning it all. We can’t forget humans have competition coded in their DNA. I too, wanted to be pro baseball player, but some other guys with more talent beat me out. That’s the way it goes. We should embrace the competition and differences, and remember the rest of the world had electricity and the Internet ( among notable others ) because of the USA and the lives lost after our founding fathers wrote the Declaration of Independence – which by the way, was considered suicide at the time.
March 21st, 20091:56 am
I dont know why he was fine for the longest time until recently
Could it be the pressure that Braves are actually good and pose a serious threat for his team? Some get energized as that long offseason nears the end…..Glad you posted that comment.
March 21st, 20091:59 am
DOB I believe you were refering to me as the Sooner fan who thought the Big 12 teams were lacking. And while no one is more pleased than I (Texas is the only one I did not pick to win the first round) that the Big 12 went 6 – 0, all except for Texas A&M were higher seeds and were supposed to win.
The true test will come in the next couple of days with Texas, Texas A&M and OSU playing higher ranked teams. The Aggies and Pokes will give a good show but will most likely fall in the end. Out of the three I actually think the Longhorns have the better chance of winning against a Duke team that is really not all that strong (Sorry Carroll).
So Hookem’ Horns (and for a Sooner fan that was very hard to type)
I think you are exactly right. Good way to look at. Its obviously a very true statement. We do pose a big threat.
March 21st, 20092:02 am
The brilliance of Anders is that reading some of his posts makes you think he’s just a good-guy Mets’ fan.
The truth is that if you read all of his posts, you realize that he’s a douche-bag. This realization typically comes (or at least came for me) after you’ve read him, for the ninth time, mention how Soriano knew his elbow was wrong, before singing the contract, and that Anders somehow knew this before the signing, of course not mentioning it until after the elbow problems.
This same realization can also occur after you’ve read Anders, an infinite number of times, try to get under DOB’s skin. Now, I’m all for messin’ with the man, but it’s gotta be good. Anders’ comedy is like watching a Chris Woodward AB; it ain’t pretty.
March 21st, 20092:04 am
Captain Morgan in da house.
Good night here – got to see ZoSo (Led Zepplin cover band) at Wild Bills tonight. Gotta say – they were actually really good (never seen them before).
March 21st, 20092:06 am
never been a name changer. never been the goo guy, involving boyer.
never been the deion guy.
actually, i have a job. i never post during normal hours.
i read when i get home.
from 9:30 to 4:00 actually still one of the 93% that still is employed.
where barney frank at? where charlie? where franklin raines?
March 21st, 20092:07 am
I know you won’t see this, but there was a request. Can you shed some light on some of the comedic monikers present here?
Also, a disclaimer: while I believe you to be a lawyer, I still hold you in higher regard than I do Anders.
uga-brave. Count me as one of the 91% of Georgians who still have a job….
March 21st, 20092:10 am
bay area steve,
if you live in the bay area, please give me the pulse of the bay area opinion of gavin.
March 21st, 20092:14 am
Come on, uga, you can’t make a post like your 1:23, without making me think it’s you. Who do you think it is?
So, did the market reach the bottom? Your opinion on silver?
You are a perfect contrast to Anders. I’ve read your stuff for better than a year; you were spot-on with a whole bunch of financial stuff, and yet, with a couple of exceptions, you haven’t reminded us of it.
Make no mistake, if I predict something, and it happens to turn out the way I said, I’ll let you know. But, even I can stop after the thirty-seventh time. Anders knows no such limit.
And, where’s the whiskey? I’m feeling a little parched.
Roach: Not disagreeing. I think you are right. It’s a financial decision and a decision about whether we can keep Josh while letting Jordan season a bit in the minors (and save money) versus going after winning the division all-out and losing Josh. I used to favor the former, now I am switching to the latter.
March 21st, 20092:17 am
renegator, i think we should count ourselves lucky every friday that we go home employed.
i have watched three good friends get laid off. people that i have worked with for 10 plus years.
people that mave mba’s from michigan, kellog, and fuqua.
March 21st, 20092:18 am
About 30 miles south of SF, uga, and don’t follow local (or, at least SF, the city is strange) politics. My uninformed opinion is that the man is ambitious, and knowing CA, he’ll at least make governor.
March 21st, 20092:21 am
Noc-a-Homer Simpson – Hope you go this deep into the blog. I am a South Carolina boy also. Born in Greenville [Berea area] live in Easley now. My gotigers72 screen name refers to my Clemson Tigers. I can say MY because I went to school there and they are recepients of my dad’s money. Don’t know what’s in the water at Clemson, but they need to filter that water. Their sports teams continue to play lights out, then go in the dumper when it counts. Bowl games, ACC hoops tournament, NCAA hoops tournament, College World Series. We have some ACC football and baseball championships, and 1 NCAA golf championship. The place we hang our hat is our 1981 NCAA football championship. I’m hoping our new football coach, Dabo Swinney, will turn around the school’s fortunes in sports by at least winning an ACC football championship before too much longer. But for now, we do deserve the label of choker, unfortunately.
As far as barbecue, I’m not a fan of mustard based sauce. I think the area around Lexington and eastern North Carolina is where mustard based is king. I prefer tomato based with a little vinegar in it. The best place I have ever eaten barbecue is a little slice of heaven in Arkansas. Hot Springs to be exact. A tiny place named “McClards Barbecue”. Sliced on a bun. Tomato based sauce which I get on the side because it doesn’t need much sauce. They have those smokers going and you can smell it several blocks away. My wife’s hometown. The first place we go when we visit. When we leave, we throw a few pounds in the cooler along with several bottles of sauce to help us with withdrawals.
March 21st, 20092:24 am
I have an MBA, a Masters in Beverage Absorption; a lot of local establishments are always hiring.
March 21st, 20092:31 am
BAY AREA STEVE,
predicted it and was right. never wanted to blow my own horn.
you want it here it comes.
unemployment always is a lagging indicator.
this is only the third time in the history of the s&p 500 that we have breeched 12 year lows.
history repeats itself, plenty of cool ETF’S out there now. plenty that will let you bet three times your money on financials, real estate, or the s&p.
look i said it close to two years ago. i thought lehman was doomed. saw the credit swaps. bear already had a foot in the grave.
too long of a story, sorry for the rant. not the right place.
March 21st, 20092:38 am
come to atlanta, you me, bubdylan, and i think flange would be cool to hang out with.
may even convince the braveheart to hang out.
well that will never happen, eight days to opening day, i think.
March 21st, 20092:40 am
Im on the Schafer bandwagon. Hell i will drive the dang thing if need be. He needs to be here even if we lose Anderson. Trade him release I dont give a hoot Schafer is superior now. No reason for seasoning. Let the kid play and we will show you he has it.
March 21st, 20092:56 am
bay area steve, probably a better place to talk about baseball.
note: the anger i used to have about equities has left my voice.
serenity now = INSANITY later.
in all honesty the spx low is now at 666. how perfect. 666 to 800 in eight or so trading days. bear market bounce, or the start of something?
March 21st, 20093:02 am
Hey, uga, I can’t decipher most of your financial stuff; I’ve just put everything I own in some target-date 2045 funds, and am hoping we’ve hit the bottom. And, I hate to say, you’re the best advisor I’ve got. Tell me I shouldn’t sell.
March 21st, 20093:10 am
bas, here is to hoping we both live till 2045.
hope the whiskey is aged, baseball is played, KC is still around to make predictions, and the everyday crusading man still rides his hog and writes his blog.
March 21st, 20096:25 am
BAS, the Count thing is a very old school blog thing, from back in the day when uga, BraveDave, Utahwayne, Bravonam, and the vampire Serbok, a.k.a. “The Crazy Diamond” ruled the overnights. You’d never see ‘em during the day, only during the overnight. They were the blog’s graveyard shift vampires. We’d talk about the need for one of them to adopt a vampire moniker. We always talked about how Count Chopula seemed like a good one for one of them to take on. Uga is finally doing it. Makes sense for him since he eats and drinks at Chops and the Chop House ALOT. Uga is definitely not a name changer though, just seems to be taking on the Count alter ego (without changing his writing style) for the fun of it and as a winking nod to the ole days of JJS, BobJ, CL, Grinch, SJA, Rosalynn, Eric the Elder, Serbok and Bravedave (and maybe to reverse the fortunes of the Braves?).
March 21st, 20096:50 am
Did someone say they found Shirley MacClaine hot? These days, she looks like what I imagine Ronald McDonald would look like if scary Ronald was an old woman who’d spent years doing drugs and battling mental illness. All of those things might be true of Ronald anyway ’cause Ronald be a creepy clown. Ronald McDonald is more of a hermaphrodite than Jamie Lee Curtis, more androgynous than David Bowie. I’m not afraid of Americans. I’m afraid of Ronald McDonald …… and of Shirley MacClaine looking like an old Ronald McDonald.
March 21st, 20097:33 am
Josh Anderson’s .340 career minor league OBA is obviously not great. But if he can do that in the majors, the truth is that his OBA would only be 5 or so points worse than an average major league leadoff hitter. His OBA would really only be costing the team about 2 runs relative to the average leadoff hitter over 770 pas (if every 10 points or so of OBA is worth about 3 runs over 700 pas).
Really what kills hims is the lack of SLG. Every 10 or so SLG points is worth about 2 runs over 770 pas. His SLG in the minors is worth about 40 points less than an average MLB leadoff hitter. That’s about an 8 run deficit.
If he only does what he did in the minors, he’s worth about 10 runs less than an average MLB leadoff hitter combined with his OBA and SLG. That of course ignores his baserunning. http://www.baseballprospectus.com/statistics/sortable/index.php?cid=421535
For an average baserunner, Josh may very well be worth +5 to +10 runs. Relative to the average leadoff hitter, however, his speed gets marginalized by the other burners there and he’s only likely worth at most b/w +1 to +3 runs relative to the average leadoff hitter on the bases. In sum, Josh is likely worth 7 to 10 runs less than an average leadoff hitter if he gets 770 pas.
If he makes the team, he likely should be batting 8th where he can be a + value hitter relative to the average NL dude at that slot. His OBA would be 25 points higher than average and thus worth +6.7 runs over 630 pas, and his SLG would be about 10 points higher than league average and thus worth about +1.6 runs over 630 pas and his baserunning would be significantly better than the average 8 hitter, thus allowing him to gain more of a full benefit of his +5 to +10 baserunning value relative to the average baserunner.
I guess what I’m saying is that Josh could maybe be worth +10 to +15 runs above average if he bats 8th but worth 10 runs below average if he leads off. He’d also likely be worth 10 to 15 runs less as a leadoff hitter than either Kelly or Yunel. But Josh will likely bat first anyway because he’s wicked fast, lol. I’d feel a whole lot better about Josh if he had the minor league OBA of Brett Gardner
March 21st, 20098:06 am
I realize that ‘dark star’ is a reference to the Grateful Dead, but how does this have anything to do with the Disney spring training complex???
March 21st, 20099:03 am
The way Barak Obama and I filled out our brackets, we should both be in the special olympics of bracketology.
Oh yeah, I went there.
March 21st, 20099:11 am
Bay Area Steve (1:51 am): “Uga, just tryin’ to say, if you’re our resident name-changer, well done. I woulda bet it was bubd, Random, or jjs back to mess with us.”
My “aliases”, as few and far between as they may be these days, would be too abstruse and/or unfunny to qualify me as a legitimate suspect.
(Witness: “Niels Boor”, “Pepperidge Blogs Remembers”.)
March 21st, 20099:12 am
My bad — Rand O’Mandor is a St Paddy hangover.
March 21st, 20099:13 am
March 21st, 20099:25 am
TnBrian-And you think that a combo of Limbauagh and O’Reilly would be any less hateful from their point of view than Maher/Olberman? Get real time, Dude-they’re all And Idiots.
March 21st, 20099:29 am
Mekons-I won’t equate him with Willie Mays, but I seem to remember Bobby Cox letting Kelly Johnson ride an 0-30 something slump his rookie year. People were calling for Kelly’s and BC’s head at the time. Kelly ended up winning the Player of the Week award right after he broke out of the slump. It may not be normal practice to let a player struggle like that, but it is hardly unheard of, either.
March 21st, 20099:50 am
Braveheart (6:50 am): “Did someone say they found Shirley MacClaine hot? These days, she looks like what I imagine Ronald McDonald would look like if scary Ronald was an old woman who’d spent years doing drugs and battling mental illness.”
Check out The Bliss of Mrs Blossom — 1968.
March 21st, 20099:53 am
Right about now Tom Glavine is probably thinking, “Yikes, I need more deodorant.”
March 21st, 20099:54 am
Hey Lew, don’t you find it ironic that the guys that get on here blogging about politics, left or right, have no clue about the true nature of this country. Do they understand that the balance of the 2 party system helps maintain a government that doesn’t go too far either way. It’s that balance that has made this an enduring Democracy, not someone’s kingdom or collective!
March 21st, 20099:56 am
Read my post again,neaver mentioned alcohol.
Just got a mental picture of you going to the ball game with your brown bag containing a chicken sandwich..
March 21st, 200910:03 am
ccrider (9:54 am): “Hey Lew, don’t you find it ironic that the guys that get on here blogging about politics, left or right, have no clue about the true nature of this country. Do they understand that the balance of the 2 party system helps maintain a government that doesn’t go too far either way. It’s that balance that has made this an enduring Democracy, not someone’s kingdom or collective!”
The tragedy of the situation is buying into the myth that there are only two ways. (And I’m not talking about “Bubba”’s “third way” of triangulation.
Whether D or R, they represent only one way — boundless corporatism.
There are several other ways that are simply never discussed. Proportional representation – getting away from the “two” party monopoly – might be a good start.
Based on your comment above, I count you among those who have no clue.
March 21st, 200910:05 am
CCRider-I find it more typical than ironic-though I see your point.
March 21st, 200910:09 am
Random-If there were indeed, more choices for us to make our respective decisions, I fear that before too long, they would be subject to the same influences as the current powers that be. We might benefit from a reconstruction (or just outright dismantling) of the current influence peddling machine.
Coach (Skip and Pete will be missed)
March 21st, 200910:11 am
Just a couple of thoughts on my Braves.
Matt Diaz is hitting .395, Atlanta is probably going to sit him in favor of the Garret Anderson.
Bobby Cox usually carries four outfielders on his 25 man roster. Frenchy, Diaz and G.Anderson are penciled in. J.Anderson and Schafer are battling it out in CF. I wonder if Cox is even considering carrying five outfielders.
March 21st, 200910:14 am
Random, There is no doubt that there are as many ways of governing as there are people. The point was that the bloggers that bring politics into the BASEBALL BLOG, do it to promote their personal party views. This venue , as DOB has stated often, is an intended haven away from the traditional things that divide us(politics, religion, etc.) So, for those that can’t keep their traps shut about their views, they should find Hannity’s or Olberman’s sites to rail about their personal leanings. DOE’S that give you a clue!
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