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Kim

March 13th, 2009
3:34 pm

How old is Hanson? I know Heyward is 19, but I can’t recall how old Tommy H. is.

cvbraves

March 13th, 2009
3:35 pm

Inning 9
Top Half
B:0 S:0 O:0 – Pitcher Change: Christopher Leroux replaces Burke Badenhop.

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B:0 S:2 O:0 – Brandon Hicks homers (1) on a fly ball to left field.

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B:0 S:0 O:1 – Jason Heyward flies out to left fielder John Raynor.

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B:0 S:0 O:1 – Frederick Freeman singles on a line drive to right fielder Cody Ross.

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B:0 S:0 O:2 – Brooks Conrad pops out to first baseman Gaby Sanchez in foul territory.

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B:0 S:0 O:3 – Diory Hernandez grounds into a force out, third baseman Robert Andino to second baseman Chris Coghlan. Frederick Freeman out at 2nd.

garlick

March 13th, 2009
3:36 pm

Jay212033, Schafer has 4 doubles & a home run in 8 hits this spring.

PMC

March 13th, 2009
3:37 pm

Mastodon KILLS Well done DOB. That’ll get that red bull pumping.

Cameron

March 13th, 2009
3:38 pm

I read the article about what Chipper said and I remember him saying that. I am just saying I don’t think he is ready yet, but will be soon. The only problem is they are going to have a hard time finding a spot for him. I am excited as everyone else, just trying to put things in perspective.

McFann :Ô:

March 13th, 2009
3:38 pm

I know, OHBravesGirl…I was kind of kidding. :)

cvbraves

March 13th, 2009
3:38 pm

Bottom 9th:

Bottom Half
B:0 S:0 O:0 – Pitcher Change: Mariano Gomez replaces Francisley Bueno, batting 1st.

Jay212033

March 13th, 2009
3:39 pm

Thanks Garlick! Half of his hits are for extra bases that’s awesome!

keylargo

March 13th, 2009
3:40 pm

You can send Tommy Hanson a birthday present on 8/28. He will be 23 then. Birthday 8/28/86

Run Heap Run

March 13th, 2009
3:41 pm

Just wanted to say..the title of this entry is a winner….now back to work so I can get outta here on time.

Oh and go braves! World series here we come! :D

DukeBoy

March 13th, 2009
3:41 pm

who pitches tomorrow?

DWW

March 13th, 2009
3:41 pm

Cameron
I thought the original post was great. I just didnt like the “chill out” part directed at guys(including chipper) who might be a little over excited about this kid.

cvbraves

March 13th, 2009
3:41 pm

Bottom Half
B:0 S:0 O:0 – Pitcher Change: Mariano Gomez replaces Francisley Bueno, batting 1st.

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B:0 S:0 O:1 – Chris Coghlan flies out to right fielder Jason Heyward.

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B:0 S:0 O:2 – Wes Helms lines out to first baseman Frederick Freeman.

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B:0 S:0 O:3 – Cody Ross grounds out, third baseman Diory Hernandez to first baseman Frederick Freeman.

Braves win, 9-2.

ncscoots

March 13th, 2009
3:42 pm

Couch, you’re killing me, man, LOL. No drugs, but the Clemson loss is in the rearview mirror. Think that might have had me a little snarky yesterday.

garlick

March 13th, 2009
3:42 pm

Just for comparison’s sake, Josh Anderson has 7 hits, 3 doubles & a triple.

Bravely going forward

March 13th, 2009
3:42 pm

dude

March 13th, 2009
3:42 pm

toph

March 13th, 2009
3:42 pm

nice game bravos

hardwear

March 13th, 2009
3:42 pm

Braves have the best record in Spring.

Kim

March 13th, 2009
3:44 pm

He shows a tremendous amount of maturity for such a young guy. At 23 I was nowhere near that put together. ;-) Thanks keylargo!

garlick

March 13th, 2009
3:45 pm

hardwear, unfortunately I have to say, So What?? It’s not only spring training, but it’s a spring training with a lot of players missing for the WBC, so this doesn’t mean a whole heck of a lot.

What it does say is we have a REALLY good farm system. Our minor league guys are just killing it up here, and that’s definitely exciting. It just doesn’t mean much for our major league team (right now).

Jymno80

March 13th, 2009
3:45 pm

i think the people in American media need to get behind the WBC and help make it a success… i think WBC is exactly what the game of baseball needs for its growth here and abroad… after all, baseball is our national pastime, isn’t it?

dude

March 13th, 2009
3:46 pm

No matter what boys and girls, ya gotta like all this fine ‘pichin’ we are seeing from our dudes. Very competitive. We likes.

Billy

March 13th, 2009
3:46 pm

Who is scheduled to pitch Sunday?

cphizzle

March 13th, 2009
3:47 pm

Hey DOB are you of any relation to that Dave O’Brien on ESPN or is he just a cheap immitation?

hardwear

March 13th, 2009
3:48 pm

The record may not mean much, but it is still pretty cool… they are playing very well.

Cameron

March 13th, 2009
3:49 pm

Didn’t mean to hurt your feelings. Just trying to slow down the hype train a little bit. I do plan on going to the new stadium in Gwinnett to see him pitch. I am acutally really excited about that. My grandpa’s company Pyramid Masonry is doing all of the masonry work for the stadium. It is coming along really nice.

Justin

March 13th, 2009
3:49 pm

DOB – now that you’ve figured out the polls on wordpress, can you also add a counter to track the number of times someone asks you about the other Dave O’Brien?

MFin04

March 13th, 2009
3:50 pm

When’s the USA play in the WBC on tv next?

CB

March 13th, 2009
3:50 pm

Must be nice to be Bobby Cox and Frank Wren these days,to actually have some talent to choose from.Its going to be some tough decisions to make over the next three weeks.THANK YOU GOD!

StingerSplash

March 13th, 2009
3:51 pm

Bill Gullickson’s 50? Damn.

mbatl

March 13th, 2009
3:51 pm

“mbatl, that would be 10 or so starts in which you’re saying Hanson gives you a better chance to win than the guy in the usual spot. If that’s the case, he shouldn’t be pitching at 5, LOL.”

’scoots, well, yeah. That’s kinda’ the idea. Five “#2’s” getting lots of rest and giving us a chance to win every night. (it’s not a prediction, btw, just a fantasy).

BA

March 13th, 2009
3:51 pm

I was looking over the broadcast schedule for the WBC, saw O’Brien as a commentator, and got my hopes up for a second- but no, it’s just the non-crusading Dave O’Brien, not our beloved bbq expert.

I’m with Random on the WBC- love it. Particularly those pool A games in Asia- those folks have the intensity for baseball for sure. I’m looking forward to seeing Japan and Korea next week.

ncscoots

March 13th, 2009
3:51 pm

Well, winning never hurts, I don’t care if it’s the hearts game in the clubhouse. Just can’t project ST success on the regular season, is all anybody’s been saying.

cmac1919

March 13th, 2009
3:53 pm

Honestly, I hope we don’t see Hanson much in the majors this year. Why? Because that would mean that our pitching rotation would be as solid and consistent as advertised.

The only way I can see Hanson having much impact this season is if the rotation gets decimated by injuries again and I don’t see that happening. (considering one of the main reasons why we got Lowe and Vasquez was because of their innings and ability to stay healthy.)

Then there’s Glavine….but I would think Reyes, Morton, or Parr would get the call up before Hanson.

I’m as excited about Hanson as anyone and wants to see him pitch in the majors, but not at the price of watching our ‘08 woes reappear.

GSU-Lee

March 13th, 2009
3:53 pm

DOB

Is it Kawakami then D-Lowe this weekend?

ncscoots

March 13th, 2009
3:53 pm

(it’s not a prediction, btw, just a fantasy).

And a foine one it is, me lad, foine, indeed.

OHBravesGirl

March 13th, 2009
3:54 pm

Figured you were kidding, McFann! I just enjoy your passion for the Braves and your favorite player. I love him too, but I can’t compete with you. Haha.

Mitch

March 13th, 2009
3:55 pm

I love international competition, so I think the WBC is great. It’s fun to see the big names of the MLB playing for their country.

DWW

March 13th, 2009
3:55 pm

Cameron
You didnt hurt my feelings, I was just sticking up for Chipper. (whose not here to defend himself)

cphizzle

March 13th, 2009
3:59 pm

oh so i gather that has been inquired about before oh well shed some light on the situation for this baby blogger

Old School

March 13th, 2009
4:00 pm

Just out of curiosity – who is the idiot official scorer? The way you described Hanson’s 1st inning, since the 2nd run scored without the benfit of an error, then the first runner (since he didn’t reach by error, only advanced a base by error) would also be earned. Who do we need to send a rule book to down there?

Section 412

March 13th, 2009
4:02 pm

Season ticket holder here. Read every day – post very infrequently. I was at the game today (left a couple of innings early), but here are some first-hand impressions:

1. Hanson – great stuff. I sat right behind the plate and you can really see the movement. Really slow to the plate, as he has a little hitch in his delivery. The stolen bases that the Marlins had were easy. Overall, though, he is clearly the real deal.

2. Frenchy – has made a clear and noticeable change in approach. Not wailing at the low and outside breaking balls – taking them. The single to right center was scorched. The single up the middle was hit hard.

3. Schaefer – smaller than I thought. The double to left center had a lot of carry for a guy of that size. Seems to have some pop. He can REALLY run.

4. Freeman – beautiful single to left to score a run. It was a bit of a bloop, but he really adjusted to the pitch and did something with it. He is tall, lanky, and really slow. He scored from second on a single, but was he clearly out if the catcher fielded it cleanly.

5. Heyward – Man. Beast. Stud. Don’t know how else to say it, the dude is huge and athletic. His single up the middle was a rope.

6. KJ, Infante, Escobar, Sammons – about the same guys I remember last year (not that that’s bad, just didn’t notice anything that jumped out at me).

Those are the things that I remembered in the 10 minutes it took me to get home.

David O'Brien

March 13th, 2009
4:04 pm

How ’bout James Parr’s work today — 2-1/3 perfect innings with four strikeouts.

David O'Brien

March 13th, 2009
4:06 pm

Section 412: Thanks a lot for the up-close perspective. Very nice.

You notice the slide-step that Hanson used after they stole those two bases in the first inning?

jpo27

March 13th, 2009
4:07 pm

Sorry David, but you’re a musical moron if you think Mastodon’s better than Metallica. Period.

Cyrus

March 13th, 2009
4:07 pm

DOB — What do you think of the comments Bill Self said yesterday about his team ? And what seed do you see them getting ? I see them as a 3 or a 4 at the most.

Original Jon

March 13th, 2009
4:08 pm

DOB, Heyward pitched today?

jpo27

March 13th, 2009
4:08 pm

No offense though

Original Jon

March 13th, 2009
4:08 pm

Ahhh, very quick young grasshopper, lol

garlick

March 13th, 2009
4:09 pm

DOB your names have been off all day, an earlier post you said Freeman singled and flied out, now you’re saying Heyward has a slide step. A little rusty huh??

Josh H

March 13th, 2009
4:09 pm

Section327:

If Hanson is as good as advertised…runner’s stealing on him won’t matter :)

JerseyGil

March 13th, 2009
4:13 pm

WBC POOL 2

Sat., Mar. 14 Netherlands vs. Venezuela 1:00pm ESPN Deportes MLB.TV
Sat., Mar. 14 United States vs. Puerto Rico 8:00pm MLBN, ESPN Deportes
Sun., Mar. 15 Game 1 Loser vs. Game 2 Loser 7:30pm ESPN2, ESPN
Mon., Mar. 16 Game 1 Winner vs. Game 2 Winner 8:00pm ESPN, ESPN
Tue., Mar. 17 Game 4 Loser vs. Game 3 Winner 7:00pm MLBN, ESPN
Wed., Mar. 18 Game 5 Winner vs. Game 4 Winner 7:00pm MLBN, ESPN

Section 412

March 13th, 2009
4:16 pm

DOB – yeah, noticeable effort to speed it up a bit. That little hitch does cost him a half step to the runner, so he will need some work on that. And, of course, Maybin and Ramirez can really run – not like these were catchers stealing on him. Again, though, the overall lasting impression was of the movement. A little bit of 12 to 6 movement, but more a 10 to 4 type. More horizontal movement than vertical, but it really jumps around.

GBRAVE

March 13th, 2009
4:18 pm

KJ drove in around 70 last year i believe. kotchman did the same between both leagues. So i don’t think they will have breakout years. They could improve that production but i doubt it will be alot higher.
Kelly Was behind only Utley in 2b production so a repeat or slight improvement would be great.

The WBC is great, been watching as much as possible and its good exciting baseball.

BA

March 13th, 2009
4:18 pm

Yeah Josh H- I seem to remember runners taking anything they wanted against our old pitchers- and the Cy Young trophies just kept coming in anyway.

AGTFan

March 13th, 2009
4:21 pm

DOB – someone asked earlier if you liked Ray LaMontagne. I know that you do and it got me to thinking about an unknown artist that I think you’d really like. His name is Zach Williams. He’s from Ackworth and now lives in Brooklyn. He’s got a pretty good following in the Brooklyn music scene, but not many folks know about him nationally. I heard him one night in Clemson, SC and he blew me away. Check him out at zachwilliams.com.

Couch Tater

March 13th, 2009
4:23 pm

JerseyGil,

Did you feel like the WBC generated excitement from the casual fan away from the ballpark (in P.R.)? Do you think it will have the effect that MLB wants?

McFann :Ô:

March 13th, 2009
4:26 pm

OHBravesGirl

Thanks! I enjoy it, too. ;)

bblovr

March 13th, 2009
4:27 pm

MFin04 did u notice the final box score and who got the WIN? TOMMY HANSON

Mekons

March 13th, 2009
4:27 pm

Thanks for that schedule, Gil.

AGTFan

March 13th, 2009
4:28 pm

There have been a couple of good baseball items on NPR this week. During the story about the Netherlands upset of the Dominicans, the guy being interviewed said that baseball began in the Netherlands during WWII. The Dutch new it was the American pastime and started playing baseball as a way of thumbing their noses at the Nazi occupiers.

There was a story on yesterday about the “Curse of the Colonel”. check it out on NPR.org. I laughed my tail off.

Tomahawk Matt

March 13th, 2009
4:29 pm

*DOB* ALL RIGHT – That’s a Gilmour and a Mastodon story within two weeks. I believe we were separated at birth even though I’m 10 years younger at least. You should see them live if you haven’t – always awesome sound.

GO BRAVES!!!

Section 412

March 13th, 2009
4:30 pm

One more thought on Schaefer – he uncorked a beauty of a throw from fairly deep center to 3rd to almost get Hanley Ramirez tagging and advancing. The throw skipped away, but it was a solid one-hopper on a line. Very “un-Blanco-like.”

Tomahawk210

March 13th, 2009
4:32 pm

Can anyone tell me the name of the song they play at The Ted when the Braves hit a home run? I keep forgetting the name of it and I think it’s a country song but not sure. I want to download it to put on MLB 09 THE SHOW after I hit a jack with a Braves player. Great new feature and the game is amazing, very realistic.

Run Heap Run

March 13th, 2009
4:32 pm

Oh my gosh you guys! There’s a brand new article out about how Francoeur has
changed for the better and how he’s not going to suck this year!

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090313&content_id=3979046&vkey=news_atl&fext=.jsp&c_id=atl&partnerId=rss_atl

Thank goodness! Its been at least 2 days since this story was last done. Whew. I can sleep good tonight!

Anders

March 13th, 2009
4:33 pm

What up Braves fans? Well I see the value of the WBC is getting kicked around on the old blog today. I’ve been clear that I’m against it mainly for injury risks.

But after reading some comments from Jose Reyes today upon his return to camp after the DR was ousted there’s yet another concern. I’m papraphrasing but he commented that he needed to get back to running and his other conditioning work because at the WBC all they did was stretch, take some batting practice and then show up for the games. Granted maybe this was only the DR and therefore no wonder they under performed but I bet lot’s of these guys aren’t getting the necessary ST preparation work in.

Hopefully it doesn’t lead to lot’s of strains, pulled muscles and sore limbs in a few weeks.

Just bring my boys home. I couldn’t care less who wins this bogus tournament.

weezy

March 13th, 2009
4:34 pm

Mastadon reference is very cool but you just cannot beat the Tom Waits peice he gave us.
Best show of 2008, Tom Waits at the Fox.
I know you were there DOB.
Take care and thanks for the Play by play.

JerseyGil

March 13th, 2009
4:34 pm

Couch in today Newspaper in San Juan is an article about that.Govertmen officla & MLB are talking to bring more Reg. Games to San Juan. The problem with reg MLB Fan and the Puerto Rican fan is if you put a good product in the field the stand are fill of fan. Winter Ball in PR was down in the last 10 year because that, MLB player from PR are not allow to play Winterball, except a few exception.Problaly the case here in the State are different because the emotion an culture are different.

ShamusThacker

March 13th, 2009
4:35 pm

Metallica is too clean, polished, and comercially oriented for my taste (metal-wise). I’ll take Mastodon over them any day.

Anybody listened to “Still Dangerous,” a new release of some 77′ material by Thin Lizzy? I LOVE it!

Anders

March 13th, 2009
4:39 pm

Couch – Seligs plan was to move the Marlins to Puerto Rico based on their succes in the WBC. Now he’s lying awake at night scared to death he might have to move them to the Netherlands!

“Oh why did I let Fehr talk me into this?”

ResacaJoe

March 13th, 2009
4:39 pm

DOB,
How was the Jamey Johnson CD? “In Color” is a good country song. I liked “The Redneck Side of Me” When your shades are on an’ your heads on ice, something I could relate to back in the day.

Tomahawk210

March 13th, 2009
4:39 pm

I live in Chicago but one of my favorite bands comes from Atlanta. Very underrated-Sevendust. Very loud but never went commercial like Metallica.

Ross

March 13th, 2009
4:40 pm

You’re OK DOB but I wish you’d can it with the stupid music talk and stick to sports. You ain’t 20 any more. Leave it at the EARL. Don’t be a dork.

bravesgrl4life

March 13th, 2009
4:41 pm

The name of the song at the Ted when a HR is hit is “Gone” by Montgomery Gentry.

JerseyGil

March 13th, 2009
4:41 pm

There was a news today in PR about Bernie William, a lady accused Bernie of Punch her in the face in a night club on thursday after celebrating the Pool D Winner, police are investigating the accusation.
The accuser said that she took a PIC of Bernie an he approach her a broke her camara & punch her.

Justin

March 13th, 2009
4:43 pm

This is classic:

After Francoeur opened the back nine at Isleworth Country Club with consecutive birdies on March 4, [Tiger] Woods asked, “Who are you?”

Francoeur quickly responded, “I just wanted to see how the world’s No. 1 golfer reacts with his back up against the wall.”

This prompted Woods to reply, “Yeah, well I was wondering how much time you plan to spend playing in Mississippi this year?”

With this, Francoeur could only smirk and slice his next drive.

ease19

March 13th, 2009
4:43 pm

cphizzle – He wrote about it in an earlier blog…bottom line is they are friends.

Anders

March 13th, 2009
4:43 pm

Jersey – Yeah they’ve been carrying that Bernie Williams story on the radio here in NY. They made it sound like it wasn’t a big deal. Way out of character for him.One of the nicest softest spoken guys I’ve ever seen in the game.

Bobby's Belly

March 13th, 2009
4:44 pm

Josh Anderson just stole first, again……

Couch Tater

March 13th, 2009
4:44 pm

Thanks, Gil.

Bobby's Belly

March 13th, 2009
4:45 pm

Um, Um Schafer’s got options.

JerseyGil

March 13th, 2009
4:46 pm

Annders..you are not fare away of the Truth…Did you know that the “Marlins” name franchise was start in PR , back in the 60’s was a AAA Team in Puerto Rico Name The San Juan Marlins.

Random

March 13th, 2009
4:46 pm

cphizzle (3:28 pm): “good grief fellas work has got in the way of keepin up with the braves today, if this keeps up i may have to look for another job”

I got a GREAT job — I just took leave for every weekday day game for the reg season (and for the one televised ST weekday game on 3/27).

Woo hoo!

MattyRoss

March 13th, 2009
4:48 pm

Hicks has legit power, no doubt. Can see that in BP. Now the game.

Sounding like Rorschach with that lack of pronouns/articles there.

“DOB’s journal…Watching Braves dominate Spring. Translating to regular season? Likely. Hanson clearly man-child. Should warn him about hunt for superheroes.”

Let’s hope this season isn’t as much of a letdown as that movie was.

muffin

March 13th, 2009
4:48 pm

section 412—- interesting comments about the schafer kid, this young man has an excitement that he brings into every game he plays in. the 5 or 6 games he has played in he just seems to be showing alot of his skills day in and day out.

Salamander

March 13th, 2009
4:49 pm

jpo27

You are misguided if you think Metallica can hold a candle to Mastodon. I mean, have you heard Leviathan? Its one of the greatest metal albums of all time (better than Master of Puppets). Metallica WISHES that they were as good as Mastodon.

auburnbrave – I don’t agree with you about the vocals being better on the latest material released by Mastodon. A certain amount of ‘vocal brutality’ enhances metal (IMO)… their new stuff is probably inferior to Leviathan. I hope the new album is as amazing as Blood Mountain and Leviathan, but I have my doubts. It will certainly sell more copies and be more accessible, but I don’t equate that with a superior metal record.

Shane

March 13th, 2009
4:50 pm

Sounds like Reyes is getting the choking part out early.

Tomahawk210

March 13th, 2009
4:50 pm

I’m with you Bobby’s Belly-I want to see Schafer in CF from opening day regardless of options and arbitration. Put the best team out there and Schafer in CF is one of those pieces. I think these next couple weeks will show Schafer is the only way to go-you can’t steal 1st base.

eltrompoBRAVESfan

March 13th, 2009
4:52 pm

Hey guys, anyone care to opine as to whether I should claim Moylan off waivers in my fantasy league??? Random question I know, but I’m pumped up about him and how has done, and I need RP.

Scuba Steve

March 13th, 2009
4:52 pm

*DOB*, about the blog pages…at least they are doing a hundred comments per page instead of the fifty…I can handle that.

Anders

March 13th, 2009
4:52 pm

Jersey – I do believe they would like to move the Marlins to PR. It’s OK with me. Not that MLB is waiting for my sign off.

I would plan vacations down there to see the Mets play from time to time. Just not in July or August.

Rodney Derrick

March 13th, 2009
4:53 pm

While everyone is gaga over Hanson, and I am too, let us not forget that JJ is the same age and has already proved to be a top-line pitcher. If Reyes and/or Morton, plus Medlen, Marek, Tehran, Rohrbaugh, and more develop, then the rest of baseball should be pretty scared for quite a while.

Anders

March 13th, 2009
4:55 pm

Um, Um Schafer’s got options. (booby’s Belly)

Yeah but the last time he took one of those options it cost him 50 days in the klink.:}

JerseyGil

March 13th, 2009
4:58 pm

DOB..what the Braves going to do with the 25 man roster, if the Braves going to carrying 12 or 13 Pitcher or 3 Catcher?
Sammons have a good ST and Ross is a good Pitch hitter and good defense catcher.To many question out of ST.

Lew

March 13th, 2009
4:58 pm

Shamus-Picked it up yesterday. It’s a great recording-very well engineered and re-mastered (Scott Gorham’s hand might be showing). Both guitar parts came through much better than on Live and Dangerous. Saw them about six months prior to the Tower Theater Show. They opened for Queen in Hollywood Florida.

Talking to Don from (the sadly closed) Ella Guru, seems we were at the show together, even though we didn’t realize it until over 25 years after the fact.

JerseyGil

March 13th, 2009
5:02 pm

Anders….Huge Met fan Base in the Island…the Other fan Base is the Bravos, yeah the Braves. Thanks to TBS.
Best time to Vacation over there is Nov-Feb.

Tomahawk210

March 13th, 2009
5:02 pm

Anders don’t you have a Mets blog to post on? I will never understand why a person comes to a rivals team board to talk with their fans instead of their own. Could he be a closet Braves fan?

TennesseePaul

March 13th, 2009
5:02 pm

DOB: Nice work on the blog today. Love the pictures, lyrics centering, and even a poll. Pulling out all the stops. Good stuff :D

As for me, I love the WBC. Haven’t heard a good reason for not having it yet either. The only thing I think I’d change is an increase in number of games played. There seem to be a lot of off days in the WBC.

Good to hear Hanson is tossing well. This late season call-up stuff will be interesting. It’s about that time that Hudson returns as well. The team could be heading down the stretch with an even better rotation than they start with.

Tomahawk210

March 13th, 2009
5:03 pm

Oh by the way Anders- he was never actually using and if you read some of the comments previous people that have seen Schafer have said he’s not big at all. He made a bad decision as far as being around the stuff.

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