1:19 pm March 13, 2009, by David O'Brien
March 13th, 20092:49 pm
Hanley Ramirez strikes out swinging.
Parr, Struck out Hanley
March 13th, 20092:50 pm
If they can just keep putting hits together they will be able to put up runs with or without an abundance of deep flys.
CVBraves im giving u the nickname “Mr. Negativity”
Who’d thunk it?
Parr struck out Ramirez to get out of the jam and end the inning.
Hanson 4-2/3 innings, five hits, two runs (one earned), two walks, two strikeouts, one hit batter. He threw 40 strikes in 65 pitches.
That was impressive, getting 12 outs in 13-batter span beginning with last out of first inning.
GT starting strong agaisnt FSU
March 13th, 20092:51 pm
Hanson needs to man-up and complete the five innings so he can get a win. Doesnt he know how wins work in MLB Spring Training, lol.
Agreed – And withouth McCann and Chipper even……nice stuff we’re seeing.
“How you going to keep ‘em down on the farm?”
So it sounds like 4.2 IP, 5 H, 2 R, 1 ER, 2 BB, 2 K and the runners on are his?
March 13th, 20092:52 pm
LSU leads Kentucky 58-47 with 3:35 left in the game- SEC Men’s Qtr Finals.
I know Hanson is pretty well destined to Gwinett to start the season but man he is making it more and more difficult every time he toes the rubber this spring.
Never took you for a Mastodon fan, good for you. And I agree they are the best metal band out there today.
If you haven’t heard them yet, they’ve released 2 songs from their upcoming album “Crack the Skye” titled Oblivion and Divinations, both are great, the vocals are a lot cleaner on these two songs, and that’s a trend I hope they stay with..
The Real Don Steele
March 13th, 20092:54 pm
Without McCann, Chipper OR G. Anderson
Braves have another run in in the sixth, and a couple on board after Heyward hit a first-pitch single following Escobar’s single.
Freeman just flied out to end inning.
DOB, have you noticed that you’re the poster boy for whiter teeth?
There’s the “1 Trick for Whiter Teeth” banner ad… and you’re smiling face right below it. =)
March 13th, 20092:55 pm
Hanson is going to be back soon. I don’t know who is going to have to go to make room for him, but after a bit of time at AAA, it’s going to counterproductive to waste his arm on games that don’t matter much.
i’m sorry.. but this doesn’t look like a basketball thread
March 13th, 20092:57 pm
DOB – So did Freeman hit a first pitch single or did he fly out to end the inning?
Freeman was busy that inning
I guess you can’t really put up a lot of runs playing small ball. We definitely need a big bat in left field.
March 13th, 20092:58 pm
What happened in the Braves 6th? Freeman got a hit and then flied out?
DOB… How was Hanson’s velocity today? Not too many strikeouts for a strikeout pitcher.
chipper 4 pres
March 13th, 20092:59 pm
auburnbrave: I don’t listen to much metal, but these guys are phenomenal. When I hear grumbling by Metallica fans about how their fave band isn’t great anymore, I wonder if they’ve ever heard Mastodon.
March 13th, 20093:00 pm
Actually….Heyward singled and Freeman flew out. Believe score is 8-2 Braves.
He meant Heyward I think
but after a bit of time at AAA, it’s going to counterproductive to waste [Hanson's] arm on games that don’t matter much.
But, wouldn’t it be at least as counterproductive to have him on the bench getting skipped over as a 5? I love his upside as much as anybody, but he’s not so much a finished product that pitching at AAA, actually throwing in anger every fifth day, is such a bad idea.
Thank you. I’ve gone bright red.
Thanks for the tip. Hope my bolditizing the link works!
Dude, the Braves are on some kind of a roll, eh? Guess they don’t need Chipper and McCann after all…:cry:
High Heat, there’s no radar gun at this ballpark.
March 13th, 20093:01 pm
That’s s’posed to be a
March 13th, 20093:02 pm
DOB: “Damn WBC. (OK, that’s too harsh, but the thing is a bit of a pain in a lot of ways, or do you folks disagree with me on that?)”
Gotta disagree — I think it’s great.
Maybe because it’s practically the only game in town, now. That is, about the only baseball on TV these days — I don’t have the MLB network (no digital cable).
But it’s fun in its own right, too. I like it.
(I think they should locate it in the southern hemisphere, though, and run it in Jan-Feb, maybe.)
March 13th, 20093:03 pm
B:0 S:0 O:0 – Defensive Substitution: Brandon Hicks replaces shortstop Yunel Escobar, batting 2nd, playing shortstop.
B:0 S:0 O:1 – Dallas McPherson flies out to center fielder Jordan Schafer.
B:0 S:3 O:2 – Wes Helms strikes out swinging.
B:0 S:0 O:3 – Cody Ross grounds out, third baseman Diory Hernandez to first baseman Frederick Freeman.
March 13th, 20093:04 pm
1, 2, 3 for Parr
March 13th, 20093:05 pm
Random, I can understand that point of view. The good matchups are very good, and seeing games that matter at this time of year is pretty cool. But the overall product, and especially the timing of it, I don’t particularly like.
“But, wouldn’t it be at least as counterproductive to have him on the bench getting skipped over as a 5?”
’scoots, one option would be to plug him in at 5th starter, and not skip the 5th starter when you normally would. In other words, a few less starts for the top 4 guys, but keeping everyone in the rotation. Seldom that I would think that makes sense, but with a 5th like Hanson, it might. Would give some guys 5 days rest occasionally (I guess that’s a good thing) and keep the innings down just a little for Lowe, Javy, etc.
Having 5 really good starters would be a huge luxury!
Good to see Frenchy getting hits.
Oh and Kudo’s on the Tom Waits DOB!! Most important songwriter of the latter half of the 20th century IMO. People can have Dylan, but I would raise them a Swordfish Trombones or Rain Dogs, or hell pretty much anything!
Going down to the clubhouse to talk to Hanson.
March 13th, 20093:06 pm
DOB – kust looking at the box score and it looks like Florida is using DH and Braves are batting the pitcher. I now this is ST, but thought both teams would play to the same rules!
Parr is a young guy and he get’s outs. Maybe not overpowering, but he gets guys out. This year and last. What more does he need to do?
DOB: What time of you would you think might be best for WBC?
Parr hasn’t gotten much work so far, but he seems to be improved over the 2008 version. I wonder what his future will be.
For all of you ready to give Hanson a spot in the rotation, you need to chill out. The guy has been very impressive and is a future ace, no doubt. But, he still hasn’t pitched above Double-A. He is pitching against teams that are missing a lot of their best players to the WBC. It is a wide known fact that pitchers are WAY ahead of hitters in Spring Training. Hitting is all about timing and takes a while to get back. Especially, when the guy throws 95-99 mph and with the kind of stuff he has. He needs some seasoning and fine tuning in Triple-A before he is fully ready. The last thing you want to do is stunt his growth from hurting his confidence by bringing him up too early.
Not to mention, there is absolutely no room for him. He is not going to take Lowe, Vazquez, Jurrjens, Kawakami, or Glavine’s spot. Glavine’s would be the most likely based on ability and money, but know way he is going to take Glavine’s spot for him. If someone gets hurt, there is no guarantee he would even get the start. I think Reyes would get it at this point. I could be wrong, but I do not think he is in the Braves plan for this year. Unless, it is in the bullpen in a late season call up like David Price and Samardzja last year.
Memory Dean ever heard of them
March 13th, 20093:08 pm
this is pretty hilarious
March 13th, 20093:09 pm
Ask him what conditioner he uses. He has great hair ya know.
Cameron I think you are pretty spot on with that about Hanson
B:0 S:0 O:0 – Defensive switch from second base to third base for Robert Andino.
B:0 S:0 O:0 – Defensive Substitution: Chris Coghlan replaces third baseman Dallas McPherson, batting 4th, playing second base.
B:0 S:0 O:0 – Pitcher Change: Burke Badenhop replaces Carlos Martinez.
B:0 S:0 O:1 – Brooks Conrad grounds out, second baseman Chris Coghlan to first baseman Gaby Sanchez.
B:0 S:0 O:2 – Diory Hernandez grounds out, shortstop Manuel Mayorson to first baseman Gaby Sanchez.
B:0 S:0 O:3 – Greg Norton grounds out, second baseman Chris Coghlan to first baseman Gaby Sanchez.
18 Wheels of Love
March 13th, 20093:10 pm
Wow, Memory Dean…where have I heard that name before? Reminds of Athenaeum for some reason.
GTI in Chicago
March 13th, 20093:12 pm
Not sure if you’re right about the DH & Pitcher hitting right now, but I do seem to recall that is the kind of thing team sometimes do in ST. Generally if your in an AL home park they use the DH, and no DH in the NL home parks during the Spring, just like regular season, but if an NL team wants one of their hitters to get a few extra game ABs, the clubs can agree to play it that way beforehand. Just like they will have a friendly agreement to call a game after 10 innings sometimes even if a game is tied.
I agree that Hanson should start the year in AAA, but as far as people that need to “chill out”, you better add Chipper Jones to that list if you are going to make it. In Chippers opinion he is ready, and Chipper might know a thing or two.
March 13th, 20093:13 pm
Mastodon is INSANE. Great band, great musicians. Just have someone listen to or better yet watch the music video to “Blood and Thunder” and they will be hooked. Love those guys
DOB said at beginning of game Marlins were going to use DH and Braves opted to let pitcher hit.
March 13th, 20093:14 pm
Metallica’s old. I don’t see how they could be the best metal band in the world. It would be damn sad if that were the case.
Also reminds me of this musical time frame…the mid to late 90’s and the Southern swing for local bands…
Danielle Howle and the Tantrums
March 13th, 20093:15 pm
Pretty much anything off of their latest album (forget the name, the one with “Colony of Birchman”) is solid
March 13th, 20093:16 pm
Chipper said that he is the real deal and that he is an ace. He did not campaign for him to be on the opening day roster. If he played for the Royals, would he make their team? Probably, and he would probably have a decent season. I am just relaying my opinion, what Bobby Cox, and Wren have commented all along.
B:0 S:0 O:1 – Gaby Sanchez lines out to center fielder Jordan Schafer.
B:0 S:3 O:2 – John Raynor strikes out swinging.
B:0 S:3 O:3 – Manuel Mayorson strikes out swinging
Lol, the braves are trying to lose games by not using the DH and still win, lol.
Also, Hanson is ready for the Majors, but he really isn’t needed…based on the fact that we have 4-5 quality starters. I think on many other teams…he would be up in the Bigs starting in April.
March 13th, 20093:17 pm
Auburnbrave, when does that new Mastodon album come out?
Can you post link to play-by-play? I always have trouble finding it.
March 13th, 20093:18 pm
Sometimes the most important element in baseball is discipline. Just like Frenchy can greatly improve over last year by showing better plate discipline, the team mgmt has to maintain discipline in not bringing a top prospect to the bigs before his time. I’m betting we Hanson in ATL with a spot start sometime this year, but he’s not going to be on the opening day roster. He’s too important to the future of this team to rush.
Is there any real downside of him pitching in AAA? There could be a lot of positives…getting to work on his stuff a little more, trying different things, etc.
March 13th, 20093:19 pm
Cameron, FYI, I’m really talking about Hanson coming up around July 1… I don’t think there’s much chance he’s on the opening day roster. And even then, of course that assumes that he’s progressing properly at AAA, and that Glavine isn’t winning every time out.
Gotta go with Cameron(3:06)on Hanson. Plus,our second tier guys Reyes,Campillo,Morton ,And yes James Parr are all in the mix.
March 13th, 20093:20 pm
March 13th, 20093:21 pm
whats the score? Ive been watching the ACC Tournament.
jordan schafer just crushed a double to right then overslid 3rd and was tagged out
mbatl, that would be 10 or so starts in which you’re saying Hanson gives you a better chance to win than the guy in the usual spot. If that’s the case, he shouldn’t be pitching at 5, LOL.
I imagine he still needs to refine his changeup some (he’ll need that more in the bigs than he ever did in the minors), and it would be nice to see him tone down his flyball rate some. Anything that will help minimize the rough bumps in the ML road that he’s bound to endure, can only be a blessing.
Unless Kawakami and Glavine do total face plants, I think it unlikely that Hanson, as a rookie, could provide significantly more wins than either. Why take the chance of rushing him, says I?
Look at these BAs
Schafer, CF 4 1 1 0 0 2 0 .333
Escobar, SS 3 1 1 0 1 0 0 .375
Hicks, SS 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .143
Johnson, 2B 2 1 1 1 1 0 0 .346
Heyward, RF 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 .318
Kotchman, 1B 2 0 0 0 0 0 1 .350
Freeman, 1B 2 1 1 1 0 0 2 .273
Francoeur, RF 3 2 2 2 0 0 0 .280
Conrad, 2B 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 .150
Infante, 3B 3 1 2 2 0 0 0 .385
Hernandez, D, 3B 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 .318
Diaz, LF 2 0 1 1 0 0 0 .375
Norton, LF 2 0 0 0 0 1 0 .235
Sammons, C 3 1 1 0 0 0 2 .438
March 13th, 20093:22 pm
B:0 S:0 O:1 – Clint Sammons grounds out, third baseman Robert Andino to first baseman Gaby Sanchez.
B:0 S:0 O:1 – Offensive Substitution: Pinch hitter Wes Timmons replaces James Parr.
B:0 S:0 O:2 – Wes Timmons grounds out, pitcher Burke Badenhop to first baseman Gaby Sanchez.
B:0 S:0 O:3 – Jordan Schafer doubles (2) on a line drive to right fielder Cody Ross. Jordan Schafer out at 3rd, right fielder Cody Ross to shortstop Manuel Mayorson to third baseman Robert Andino.
I’m agreeing that Hanson shouldnt make the opening day roster. You said people needed to chill out and I was pointing out that Chipper said “If it was up to me we would have a 6 man rotation with Hanson in it”. (paraphrased)
Here is another good source for game updates today. This guy is at the game and “tweeting” updates. My last post was just a repeat of what he said.
March 13th, 20093:24 pm
I think guys like Parr and Jo-Jo should get a shot at the 5th/6th starter spot. Whatever happened to Charlie Morton?
Buena in to pitch for braves in 8th
March 13th, 20093:25 pm
Bottom 8th: Braves 8-2.
B:0 S:0 O:0 – Defensive Substitution: Alvin Colina replaces catcher Clint Sammons, batting 8th, playing catcher.
B:0 S:0 O:0 – Pitcher Change: Francisley Bueno replaces James Parr, batting 9th.
Why are people trying to predict things like Hanson coming up, when we have absolutely no idea how the season will play out–injuries, injuries, injuries !!! Also the ST stats that will start to have some meaning will begin on games after Monday, March 16–you can ignore virtually everything before then. We have a history of pitchers and hitters looking awesome early, only to fade in the last two weeks of ST.
March 13th, 20093:26 pm
Morton is nothing special…that’s what happened.
March 13th, 20093:27 pm
If Spring Training is really for training, our pitchers sure as h___ could use it to learn how to bunt. I was very happy to hear that Jimmie Williams was working with them earlier this spring. Last year was an embarrassment for ALL bunters, but particularly the pitchers.
As a Metallica fan who long lamented their passing, the new album (Death Magnetic) is fantastic. After a few hundred times through it, probably ranks as 3rd to 4th best of their careers. Great comeback. Guess they weren’t dead afterall. Mastodon is also an excellent band; got turned onto them by someone on Deadspin posting youtube links. Nice to see the Bravos having a monster spring for once, I can’t remember the last time they didn’t hover a game under .500 in the spring with the beat writers having to get reassuring quotes from Bobby Cox after every game about how the spring is meaningless. I wonder if Houston fans think the spring is meaningless?
March 13th, 20093:28 pm
Cameron, I agree with your overall assessment of Hanson and Braves rotation plans, etc. Only thing I’d differ on is that I do think we’ll probably see him for more than just a late-season callup. That is, unless Braves have no injuries (doubtful)….
Speaking of Hanson, just got back from clubhouse. He said he made slight adjustment after first inning to keep ball down. Marlins were aggressive, so he tried to keep it down and get them to beat it into the ground, which they pretty much did after that first inning.
He was pleased with his changeup, threw 3-4 of them today. Said his curveball was spotty, it’s what Hanley hit down line for a double in third. Slider was good, as usual.
Morton hurt his oblique…..Morton has very good stuff
good grief fellas work has got in the way of keepin up with the braves today, if this keeps up i may have to look for another job
March 13th, 20093:29 pm
B:0 S:0 O:0 – Pitcher Change: Francisley Bueno replaces James Parr, batting 1st.
B:0 S:0 O:0 – Defensive Substitution: Alvin Colina replaces catcher Clint Sammons, batting 8th, playing catcher.
B:0 S:0 O:0 – Defensive Substitution: Reid Gorecki replaces Wes Timmons, batting 9th, playing center field.
B:4 S:0 O:0 – Brett Carroll walks.
B:0 S:0 O:2 – Brad Davis grounds into double play, third baseman Diory Hernandez to second baseman Brooks Conrad to first baseman Frederick Freeman. Brett Carroll out at 2nd.
B:0 S:0 O:3 – Robert Andino grounds out, third baseman Diory Hernandez to shortstop Brandon Hicks to first baseman Frederick Freeman.
keylargo–excellent point at 3:27
Nice post at 3:21. Xanax?
Your 5th/6th starter doesnt have to be special…he is there to get quality starts.
March 13th, 20093:30 pm
Hicks just homered on an 0-2 pitch in the ninth inning off RH Chris Leroux.
Hicks has legit power, no doubt. Can see that in BP. Now the game.
March 13th, 20093:31 pm
Frankie Good was actually pretty good today.
I think Schafer is making his case for CF how many doubles does he have this spring?
I think Bill Gullickson’s son may pitch for Clemson. He did well last year, not so hot so far this year.
March 13th, 20093:32 pm
Morton pulled a muscle in his rib cage. Whether he is special, in the sense of being a competent 3rd starter in the near future, remains to be seen. If Hanson struggles in his first half season, will we be as quick to toss him aside?
Not saying Morton sucks (he’s better than anyone on this blog) but he just happens to be an odd man out at this point.
March 13th, 20093:33 pm
Im ready for opening night…
McFann, don’t worry…no one can replace B-Mac (or Chipper, for that matter).
And for anyone saying that stats don’t matter in ST that would be true…if the stats were one sided…but the Braves hitters are batting like .300-.350 and the pitchers are all having ERAS of like 1-2 runs. It’s not like they are playing college teams…they are playing pro baseball teams..a lot of them with their star players too.
That’s odd, why did Diory throw the ball to Hicks?? It wasn’t a double play.
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