12:51 pm March 10, 2009, by Carroll Rogers
March 10th, 20095:09 pm
cphizzle – great then for Froggy, I had a bad day, had to go to a friend’s funeral..
Mekons – I was a commie when I was 13 until I understood the whole
“We are all equal but some are more equal than others…” thing
March 10th, 20095:10 pm
Seems as if you have it backwords…everyone else is getting upset cause Braves88 has offered a different one. -Pete
No, it’s just that his is retarded.
March 10th, 20095:11 pm
Braves Fan 88, probably every person on this blog has been mocked or chided at some time. I admit that you probably made same valid personal observations that were not taken well by several on the blog. And some have continued to deride you in a sense. I would hope it was more as an expression of humor than an attack on you. But I can see where it would not have been humorous to you.
However, it may be helpful for you to step back and take a look. Some here, may not have been able to distinguish between the real you and the fake names that were “like” yours. Therefore, they would say things about those posts but not knowing it was not you. I think Ease is trying to say that he was responding to those posts, not to you. From his perspective, since the posts were not yours, he never attacked you are said anything against you.
Braves Fan 88
March 10th, 20095:12 pm
Pete..you’re a big man for sure! Thanks for trying to be fair.
Ooops “never attacked you or said anything against you.”
Probably other mistakes…. please try to read the spirit… not the letter. lol
March 10th, 20095:17 pm
Anyone interested but Liverpool is crushing Real Madrid 3-0 in the UEFA
March 10th, 20095:20 pm
Interesting stats, Bubdylan. Of course, the WBC could affect others more than it has affected us, but it should not have had that much of an affect at this point. But if anything, it goes to show the depth we have at pitching. That would especially be true at the first part of ST as the starting pitchers are working up more and more innings.
March 10th, 20095:21 pm
I love the braves becuz i love to watch big, sweaty, out-of-shape posers pretend that they ar professional ballplayers. bobby cox is so proud of his “boys”.
March 10th, 20095:22 pm
Pete, he’s shown the ability to locate his pitches and get the most highly touted prospects out during his minor league and AFL career. I know that good stuff doesn’t amount to anything, but all I’m saying is you can’t conclude from his first spring training outing that he doesn’t have the ability to locate his pitches and get good hitters out. Yes, his command wasn’t there during that start, but to use your words, that doesn’t mean squat. As he gets more and more into a throwing routine he’ll be able to consistently locate his pitches. Coupled with the the nasty stuff he has, he’s going to be very, very good at the MLB level. We know he can command 4 pitches. Just because he didn’t do it in 1 outing doesn’t mean we can write him off.
March 10th, 20095:23 pm
WBC and Greg White. If anything it is better Blanco is playing in the WBC because he will be facing constantly better pitching and to date he has handled it extremely well. He looks a lot more confident this year so far….. Andrson has looked either great or average (games I have seen) and Infante and Prado seem very good again… B Jones has been very impressive, Frenchy is not KKKKKKing, Schafer looks like a little ripper and Diaz is his usual professional self… looks better for 09′ already..
PTBNL , I read this blog every day. I know who is who and how things go. It is perfectly acceptable for anyone to take offense to someone telling lies.There have been other comments since then and I have said nothing. But now I’m saying something, I’m not going to let the comments continue to go unanswered. Everyone is entitled to disagree, no one is entitled to outright lie. Joke about what I actually said, don’t add things that I didn’t. And if people are honest they would have no problem seeing the difference between Hanson’s first outing and his last. One was impressive, the other was not. To say they both were impressive is false in my opinion. I thought we had all moved on, I know I had, but apparently there are some here that just can’t quite get over that I was not impressed at all by Hanson’s first two innings. Nevermind the nothing but positive things I’ve said since that outing. I’d like to move on, I wish others were big enough to let that happen.
March 10th, 20095:24 pm
Bubdylan, your 4:14 was beyond brilliant. I did what I rarely do when reading: I laughed out loud.
dogsbrekky, gotta love Liverpool beating those overpaid, overhyped Yankees of soccer. “You’ll never walk alone”
“Anyone interested but Liverpool is crushing Real Madrid 3-0″
dogsbrekky, sounds like Madrid’s starter is pitching pretty well.
March 10th, 20095:26 pm
Braves Fan 88: “Thanks for trying to be fair.”
YW just seems like many on here dont understand the meaning of the words “opinion” and “debate.” Lets face it when someone like Hanson comes along (maybe once a decade), he could have walked 5, given up 2-3 Run bombs, hit 2 batters in 2 innings and many here would rave about his great “stuff” lol
March 10th, 20095:27 pm
oy, messed that one up. Liverpool’s starter is… oh well. Nevermind.
March 10th, 20095:28 pm
Are you ready for the new, revamped NORTRON 5000?
Yes, that cyborg that the Braves refer to as the “GREG” unit is revamped and ready for another season. His circuitry is new and he still does not have a personality. Better for it to sit patiently on the bench for several hours waiting to be summoned. He is solar powered, so no need to plug the NORTRON into a power source during day games.
One day, all the players will be cyborgs!
THE BEAR Illegitimi non carborundum
March 10th, 2009
Baseball lingo seldom lends itself to proper English. There is a story about when Dizzy Dean did some broadcasting for the Cardinals afrer his career was over. He had a habit of saying, (in keeping with his rural Arkansas upbringing) that somebody “SLUD INTO THIRD.” A local teacher called the broadcasting office and got the great pitcher on the phone. She told him he was ruining the language of her fifth graders. Dizzy listened attentively and then responded, “lady, I ain’t got much education but I do know something about baseball. Tell you what, you teach ‘em English and I’ll teach ‘em baseball.”
Word police are not very popular today either.
March 10th, 20095:29 pm
Braves Fan 88. The first one was impressive, not necessarily EFFECTIVE. The stuff was there, the command wasn’t. Jamie Moyer has never been impressive but sometimes had very effective outings. Nolan Ryan was always impressive but didn’t always have effective outings. Hanson’s outing was impressive.
OK, compare the 2008 minor league stats of these two Braves outfielders, and tell me which one is the rising superstar?
Player A (67 Games):
AVG: 304, HR: 10, RBI: 44, SB: 17, OBP:388 SLG: 458 OPS: 847
Player B (84 Games)
AVG: 269, HR: 10, RBI: 51, SB: 12, OBP: 378, SLG: 471 OPS: 850
Statistically these two are very comparable, but Player A hit the same number of HRs in 17 fewer games (all but 4 in MS, the others in Richmond), had five more stolen bases and was 35 points higher in average.
“A” is Gorecki. “B” is Schafer. Amazing the amount of pub one “phenom” has gotten while nary a word about his counterpart. Of course, Reid has bounced around, is 28 and has been injured a lot, but looking at what he did in MS perhaps his performance this Spring is not a fluke. I’m certain he is not really in the mix for an OF spot, but 17 SB in 67 games is pretty alluring for a team that, as always, is speed challenged.
Would love to know if there is any buzz about this guy in camp right now.
March 10th, 20095:30 pm
Watching Ven vs Italy in WBC now, some of these Italians look very good,
Well, what do you know? Andruw Jones finally said he was sorry for stinking it up in LA.
Ritchie from Scotland
March 10th, 20095:32 pm
Cya Carroll. Your opinions and insights have been a pleasure to read over the last 8 days. Now go chill out for a while!
Oh yeah you’ll be attending EVERY Braves game, home and road this year right? lucky mascots are hard to find.
March 10th, 20095:33 pm
honestly, I really don’t think that. logical or not…
Gregor was in there all through August, and Brandon was up in June and again in August, way before Anderson was called back.
I think the season was such a bust anyway, that Bobby left Gregor in there to see if he could do better and pull it off, whether or not Josh was tearing it up in AAA or not, until the rosters expanded.
Once Anderson came up and started playing was always in the game as a CF. If Blanco played he was in Left. If he started in CF and Anderson came in later in the game, Blanco moved to Left and Anderson took over in Center.
It’s not that Blanco was horrible, it’s just that he wasn’t great or even above average. I think he failed to grab hold of the CF position and say this is mine and no one is going to take it from me where as the moment Anderson got back to Atlanta he did all he could to impress. I think if you’re going to be an Average player on defense or on offense, you better have a skill that makes you worthwhile, or at least, not aspire to be a center fieler on a team that had Andruw Jones for 10+ years with both great D and great offense (before it slid to great D and nothing offense)… Blanco didn’t show that skill to me last season. It may be that I didn’t watch all the games, I mostly listened to the games on the radio. Maybe I would judge differently if I had SEEN him, but I don’t believe this to be true.
froggy – that is good on Gorecki, he has looked good in the few AB I have seen as has the beefy 2nd baseman (Conrad I think) who has crushed a few balls (his average is very low but)…
March 10th, 20095:34 pm
Braves Fan 88, (btw, I was playing the buffoon with that last post, hope that was obvious), I can only speak for myself, but I’ll try and defend why I thought his first outing was impressive:
When a prospect tears it up in his minors career, and then looks anything at all like his dominant self -anything AT ALL like that – when he first faces the real players, I’m impressed. If he’d gotten really clobbered, or looked like a deer caught in headlights, I’d have thought maybe we’d over-estimated. But he came close enough to what we’ve come to see from him to satisfy me that he’d be able to progress quickly past the jiggers and make the transition.
His first appearance told me (and many others here) about what to expect from his second, more comfortable appearance. The second appearance isn’t in a vaccuum, it was a natural extension of his first; it was the predictable outcome after seeing his first. Many of us feel we saw across two outings what you only saw in the second one.
So, it’s not quite false for us to say they were both impressive. They impressed us. That’s what impressive is.
Besides, observers more qualified than any bloggers here were impressed. Baseball people. They were wrong? Did the second outing prove them wrong? Seems to me like it proved them right.
March 10th, 20095:35 pm
Great job Carroll.
PWHjort, I may remember it incorrectly, but I know that when I read his original post I did not get the impression that he was writing Hanson off. My remembrance was that he said he was not impressed. He may have said some things that seemed overly critical for a first outing, but he may have felt that he had to because of the general euphoria that was being expressed on the blog at the time.
Honestly, at the time, I did not know how to take what he was saying. I decided to wait and see what he would say later. He did, in fact, come back each time Hanson pitched and say that Hanson looked better each outing. Which actually was true. (And understandable this early in ST)
Personally, it is hard for me to really come to any conclusion where any of the players are since I don’t actually get to see them. We can “see” some things, like the fact that Jeff is more selective more often than he use to be and that he has actually hit some to the right side. But I still would rather see someone pitch before I really feel like I have a handle on what kind of pitcher they are. Like I have said before, stats are fine and have their place, but they don’t replace what one can see, as far as I am concerned.
March 10th, 20095:39 pm
I said jiggers. I meant jitters. Good Lord.
March 10th, 20095:40 pm
Hey Carroll, great job on the blog while David was gone.
Wow, an Italian player got beaned by a 92 mph fastball and he DID NOT roll around on the ground crying for 10 minutes…. good they do not take after their soccer sooks
March 10th, 20095:42 pm
FROM: PWHjort “I know that good stuff doesn’t amount to anything, but all I’m saying is you can’t conclude from his first spring training outing that he doesn’t have the ability to locate his pitches and get good hitters out.”
Who made that conclusion? I certainly did not.
“Just because he didn’t do it in 1 outing doesn’t mean we can write him off.”
Again, who wrote him off? I can assure you I did not, and neither did Braves88, who is the subject of this particular thread that I am commenting on.
“As he gets more and more into a throwing routine he’ll be able to consistently locate his pitches. Coupled with the the nasty stuff he has, he’s going to be very, very good at the MLB level.”
I happen to agree with you, which still remains to be proven. When someone opines that someone didnt look sharp in his 1st outing, its incorrect to extrapolate that the person thinks he will not make it as a MLB pitcher, which is what many others did here.
Christy, you have same interesting insights. Glad you have shared them.
March 10th, 20095:43 pm
PWHjort and Bubdylan, I thought we all gave our opinions on that day and had moved on. I got you the first time, I just disagree. I’m about result. Kyle Davies still has great stuff, JoJo great stuff too, ditto Morton. I never said Hanson didn’t have great stuff. Never not once. Yet here we are talking about “stuff”. So, geez, let me repeat once again….Tommy Hanson’s initial 2-inning outing was not impressive to me because he couldn’t locate that great stuff and he seemed, to me, a bit rattled, something I thought wasn’t supposed to happened. My comments went to results, not stuff. I want pitchers who are effective, I don’t want to be dazzled by stuff, I want a guy to get hitters out and not walk people. I don’t care how freakin sharp the break is on his curve or how the mitt pops when he throws his heater. But, he has gotten better results to go along with that stuff in his latest outtings and I have said so.
March 10th, 20095:44 pm
Bubdylan, I had to laugh at that one! I am glad you clarified. I wasn’t sure what you were trying to say with jigger….. given your self-proclaimed love for the sauce!
March 10th, 20095:45 pm
ease19 …McFann must be rubbing off on her
That’s an awful thing to say to anybody!
News from Met camp. Duaner Sanchez was released today. Looks like he’s not gonna get back to what he was before the taxi accident. He was only throwing in the high 80’s. Too bad. The kid had electric stuff before the accident. The Mets save 75% of his $1.6mil salary by releasing him before April 1st.
Assuming they release Carcia and save his $8 mil they have money to spend if something makes sense. Can you say Pedro? Hmmm… Should watch tonight in the WBC to see what he has. He’s publicly said he wants to come back as the Mets 5th starter but he wants to get paid.
Plus, lots and lots of rumors about the Mets looking at Pudge Rodriguez too. The thought is that they would trade Castro if they got Pudge.
Just sharing for those that are interested.
March 10th, 20095:50 pm
Froggy, good work. I don’t know how good Gorecki is in the field, but Schafer is a plus plus center fielder. Maybe that’s why he’s a higher touted prospect.
Braves Fan 88, I joined this conversation late, pal. Sorry it didn’t fit into your “moved-on-from-that” schedule. You said it was false to say they were both impressive. You said that today. I said why I thought they were both impressive. Then you got whiney.
I respect the fact that you are defending an unpopular observation, though.
March 10th, 20095:51 pm
Anders – I would love the mets to get PUDGE, he outright sucks off the juice.. EOFS…
Pedro, wow imagine if he is healthy, guy is remarkable when healthy… and Omar likes him, so we will see … but he would be better than Garcia, Redding (lloked terrible the other day when I watched) and the other also rans…
2009 NL EAST is going to be the 2nd best division in MLB after at AL BEAST….
March 10th, 20095:52 pm
Not looking sharp and not being impressive are 2 different things. And he’s proven he can pitch very effectively against the best prospects in baseball. The best prospects generally turn into at least good every-day players.
March 10th, 20095:53 pm
PTBNL, might be time to cork the bottle, eh?
March 10th, 20095:54 pm
Ripple comes with a cork?
March 10th, 20095:56 pm
Bubdylan, I’ll let you be the judge of that. Actually, the part about the “sauce” was an afterthought. I really didn’t know what to replace jigger with. And when you said what it was suppose to be, I had to laugh at myself because I could not figure it out.
PTBNL Thanks, I thought I clarified too, that I was not responding to anything Braves Fan 88 wrote, but sense I am only a class – D blogger…of to dream about being class-C one day!
McFann I was hoping it was going to be a compliment
March 10th, 20095:57 pm
ease19 — well, I guess I am a class F blogger then.
March 10th, 20095:59 pm
Bubdylan, yes you did come in late..so late you’ve completely missed why I cared to comment, it wasn’t necessarily disagreement about the outing. Some people were taking my not impressed comments far beyond what I actually said. So before you lecture about getting “whinny” have the courtesy to at least get the facts right okay?Is that too much to ask? Especially since I said nothing to you, hadn’t read what you said, and didn’t care that you disagreed? You come to me, I never said word one to you or about you. And if defending oneself is “whinny” then I’ll be real sure to remind you of that going forward. Thanks.
I was just wondering, Bub. I normally just wadded-up newspaper as a stopper for mine. A cork would be helpful.
March 10th, 20096:00 pm
I left out a word in that comment. That’s fine. Looks cooler that way.
March 10th, 20096:01 pm
Well, I guess no one on the blog will be telling Chop Chop to put a cork in it.
March 10th, 20096:02 pm
Dogsbrekky – Garcia’s going. For the money his contract calls for he had to have an almost lights out st to make the team. I just don’t see how they spend that money on him. Redding is the long guy with spot starts (preferably against the Phillies.
I think Omar’s plan all along was seeing if he could catch lightening in a bottle with one of those guys, Livan Hernandez or Niese. I think he’s still mulling it over.Omar went to the DR to see Pedro right before camp opened. I think they both agreed to the course of action they’re taking and agreed to check in on each other to see where they’re at after the WBC. No guarantees on either side but they clearly like and respect each other so it’s a flexible relationship. – We’ll see.
As for Pudge. He’s looked good so far in the WBC. His hitting definetely dropped off after the juice was lost. But he actually looks bigger this year than last. Maybe his body is reverting back to it’s natural size after a year or so off the juice? He certainly is an upgrade behind the plate which I think will be important in the NL east.
March 10th, 20096:03 pm
Froggy, Gorecki is 28 years old, has had 7 minor league seasons, and only 1 of those seasons did he post an OPS of 800+, that was last year. He’s also never really played above AA, as he’s played a total of 25 games. His overall batting average in 7 seasons is .265 with an OBP of .341 & a sugging of .432. There’s nothing that screams special about this guy, especially considering he’s not really a great outfielder either. He’s gotten better since being cut by the Cardinals and the Braves picked him up, but he’s not really a prospect at the age of 28.
No Schafer, on the other hand, has 2 of his 4 seasons at 800+ OPS, and both were almost .850+. If he wouldn’t have had his suspension, his overall averages would be higher than they are currently. He also posted an .849 OPS in a season where he was suspended 50 games, and then had a horrible stretch where his average dipped below .220. He’s also a Plus Plus outfielder, as someone pointed out, and he’s only 22 years old, making him a true prospect, and 6 years younger than Gorecki.
Sorry, the Gorecki story is that he’s a career minor league who might have figured out just enough to be a utility player at this stage of the game, and Schafer is a young guy who’s figuring out how to be a professional.
One thing you have to give Tommy Hanson in his first outing was that he sent a message that you don’t throw at my teammates (Escobar) or I’ll put a 95 mph fastball somewhere that will hurt one of your teammates (Tejada).
That may have been more effective than going 3 scoreless innings.
March 10th, 20096:04 pm
sorry should say 25 games in AAA for Gorecki.
Braves Fan 88, I take it all back. You aren’t whinny.
March 10th, 20096:08 pm
Chelsea vs Juventus just started, trying to watch WBC, UEFA and poker at same time is fun……..
Damn right, PTBNL. Corks are for cheaters.
I’m listening to my iTunes player. Haven’t heard this one in a while.
March 10th, 20096:09 pm
Braves Fan 88
Just drop it. You were wrong, everyone else was right. End of story.
March 10th, 20096:10 pm
I usually just read but about 2 or 3 times a year I feel compelled to share…. last time I think was in defense of N8 somewhere early in the 08 season… don’t know what I was thinking…
March 10th, 20096:11 pm
Dogsbrekky – Don’t forget the lacrosse game between Hofstra and Johns Hopkins on ESPN U. The goalies for each team are brothers, pretty cool.
March 10th, 20096:13 pm
thanks ANDERS – will see if I can do world record speed channel changing and fit that in as well as Loud Mouths
March 10th, 20096:15 pm
Anders and other NYC folk – found an awesome little Italian place today with “straight off the boat” quality and a neat deli attached
here is their webpage (73rd and Amsterdam)… great cheeses and meats etc
March 10th, 20096:17 pm
The Best “Stuff” Ever
If you guys want to talk about “stuff,” then there’s one guy whose “stuff” was widely acclaimed and generally regarded as the best “stuff” ever. His name was George Carlin. Great “stuff” and his “stuff” was always in the perfect place!
Chop Chop – Why would you put a “stopper” (albeit a newspaper one) anyway? Just let it flow…
March 10th, 20096:18 pm
keylargo..uh..I said that over and over in almost every comment that day. Of course you wouldn’t know that from what others have said.
winterville..lol..ain’t you funny! I was minding my own business, not bothering anyone, y’all messed with me and I mess back. You want to punk someone best try it with someone else cause I’m gonna say something. This whole back and forth could’ve been avoided but for the deliberate efforts of others. Leave me alone and I’ll leave you alone.
March 10th, 20096:19 pm
Braves FAn 88
I think we are quibbling over words here, someone can have impressive stuff(high velocity moving fastball,knee buckling curveball, devastating slider) and still not perform well. Hanson’s first outing he didn’t mow down everbody etc.etc. but everyone present knew he had an impressive arsenal of pitches. I believe you are saying(I hope you are) that he didn’t perform extremely well his first outing, but if you are saying he doesn’t look impressive with that arsenal, then who does??
keylargo, 88 has a differing opinion about Hanson’s first appearance (from the rest of the blog) but I tend to have a differing opinion about that bean ball. I tend to take it with the same grain of salt that I took his struggle with control. It was his first game in ST, he had nothing to lose and a lot to gain by doing what he did. It seems that people want to project that it will be his stance throughout his career. I don’t know that such a projection can be made. That game meant nothing. As it turned out, the plunking may have cost the Braves 2 runs. There was already a man on 1st with no outs, if I remember correctly. Is that a wise time to plunk someone when the game counts? To put two on base… free passes?
As it was, the game did not count and Hanson was not going to hurt his chances of making the team by allowing those runs to score so what did he have to lose? On the other hand, how does that translate into games that do count? I don’t know. Just as I did not jump to conclusions about Hanson’s lack of command in that first outing, I will also wait to see how he handles like situations when they count. To me, there is a difference. And… I would prefer that he chose a better time to do the plunking…. when games count.
I can’t always finish off my third bottle, ease19.
Get offa my back, man.
March 10th, 20096:22 pm
Did Buddy pitch at all today and how did Soriano look folks ?
Come on, Chop Chop, we know why you don’t have a cork to put in your bottle. You have been admiring a certain former Cubs outfielder for too long.
March 10th, 20096:26 pm
Third bottle, eh?…That,s strong my man, very strong. I do believe that I stand corrected.
monty , uh..I agree totally. I didn’t have a problem with being different as difference is ok and interesting, unfortunately it became an issue for others as we can see still some weeks later.
March 10th, 20096:27 pm
Somebody asked about how Sori did….
March 10th, 20096:28 pm
well, I guess I am a class F blogger then.…So I guess it’s a reverse hierarchy then? I don’t feel so bad now!
March 10th, 20096:29 pm
What all of the definitive statements about Blanco vs Anderson need to take into account is that Blanco was a rookie last year — His power and stolen base capabilities are what they are, but the other aspects of his game — BA, OBP, and consistency could very well be expected to improve. His CF defense could also improve somewhat with experience. With Anderson, we know what we are getting as far as speed and defense are concerned, but he too is a rookie (almost?) and his statistics are based upon a very small sample.
March 10th, 20096:30 pm
“I didn’t have a problem with being different as difference is ok and interesting,” -Braves Fran 88
Say it with me, hon: “I’m Good Enough, I’m Smart Enough, and Doggone It, People Like Me!”
March 10th, 20096:33 pm
Say it with me, hon: “I’m Good Enough, I’m Smart Enough, and Doggone It, People Like Me!”
Now that’s funny as heck!
March 10th, 20096:37 pm
Juventus scores 1 – 0 Chelsea
Chelsea looks very poor tonight, boo boo
Blanco not in Venezuala’s line-up tonight, theyre up 4-0 to Italy
March 10th, 20096:38 pm
LOL, ease19. I don’t think so. Otherwise, 88 was encouraging you to get worse!
March 10th, 20096:40 pm
PTBNL thanks for the Soriano article, with all the sports I am watching I am having trouble reading as well…. Yanks will be on at 7pm as well with JOBA pitching..
Anyone else think JOBA is better not being played as a starter ?
March 10th, 20096:41 pm
That he hit Tejada after walking the first batter he faced made it even more impressive to me. Instead of saying “I’ll get him next time” he didn’t leave any doubt in my mind that he was protecting Escobar. Escobar let getting pitched inside and hit several times with no retaliation get under his skin last year IMO. I would bet Escobar thanked Hanson for hitting Tejada.
March 10th, 20096:46 pm
Dogsbrekky-I don’t think Joba has the body type to hold up as a starter. I Think the Yanks have over managed this kid. All this pitch count stuff etc. The “Joba rules”. Please. If he’s not ready leave him in AAA. They’ve jerked him around for two years now and he really hasn’t established himself as anything yet.
Personally I think he acts a little too big league for me, considering he hasn’t done all that much. You know he’s been throwing only in the low 90’s so far this spring? Tune in to check on that if for no other reason.
March 10th, 20096:49 pm
I thought Joba was more effective out of the bullpen, especially as a set-up guy for Riveria. Any other market than the Yankees, then I think he would probably do better as a starter. I am sure he has the stuff, just not sure of the mentality yet.
Bill in VA
March 10th, 20096:50 pm
.800 for the first dozen games by the Braves would lead this old statistician to predict a run to about 125 wins in the regular season. But, being a bit conservative, I’ll put all the money that’s left in my 401k on over 105 wins for the season.
March 10th, 20096:51 pm
……and Jeff321, don’t drink too much celebrating Soriano AND Boyer looking great today. IMO, if they can pitch in the roles that the coaching staff wants them in, they both will excel.
March 10th, 20096:53 pm
Delta announced the cutting of another 10% of their flights. Ah yes, this should make a certain beat reporter happy to know his choices are limited even more and they’ll be squeezing more folks on the remaining flights.
“Would you like the 6:15 am to Atlanta through Wichita or the 5:40am to Atlanta through Toledo? Both have only 1 seat available on them and we have no other flights to Atlanta today.”
March 10th, 20096:54 pm
keylargo, I realized all that. It is just a difference of perspective, I guess. I know the thought behind it all… the symbolism of it being the other team’s SS, etc. But, I am not sure I would have wanted him to do it when he did it if the game was on the line. If Escobar can not understand that winning the game is important and that giving someone a free pass to first can be costly (especially when there are no outs and a runner already on base) he would have to get over it as far as I am concerned.
I have been beaned a few times myself and though I am considered to be “old school”, I have never desired some retaliation because my thought was on winning the game and doing whatever it took to do so. I know that there are more who feel the other way about it… seeing retaliation as important, etc. I just don’t see it that way. Now, if someone seemingly purposefully throws at the head or has malice toward a hitter, something needs to be done… if the umpires don’t do it.
Just my take on it. Not saying it is right or wrong. Just different.
March 10th, 20096:56 pm
Anders – ATL is now the busiest airport in the world and probably the easiest place to get to………
March 10th, 20096:59 pm
The problem with Kotchman is that the Angels organization poisons the minds of their hitters teaching them to be free-swingers. Hopefully he can get away from that mentality and learn to draw a walk or two.PWH
he knows how to take a walk, his OBPs in the minors were .400 often better. He might have gotten out of the habit in LA, but he’ll likely pick it back up if he feels that is the way the Braves want it. Unless of course, he thinks Jeffy is the ideal Braves-type hitter.
March 10th, 20097:00 pm
Yahoo: Derek Lowe Settling In With Braves External link
March 10th, 20097:01 pm
Anders – ATL is now the busiest airport in the world and probably the easiest place to get to………(Dogsbrekky)
Busiest rarely equals easiest. For the record ATL moves the most people, Ohare moves the most flights. Also, when you combine LaGuardia and JFK (8 miles apart) I believe they outstrip all.
BREAKING NEWS: Jeff Bennett and Two Minor Leaguers Traded To Seattle
March 10th, 20097:02 pm
Chelseaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa scores after being robbed 1 minute earlier, 1-1
March 10th, 20097:03 pm
Just funnin’ with ya–meant it as though you were insulting Ms. Rogers. No hard feelings.
Nice try KC
March 10th, 20097:05 pm
Hey Dogsbrekky, you’re a bit behind the times I watched the Chelsea game a couple of hours ago, watched it on Setanta, great game. Won’t tell you the score though, hate it when ESPN does that with it’s ticker when I am watching a game played earlier.
The cricket was exciting today too, England just missing out, although your boys really walloped the South Africans
Not really nice… but a try, ease19.
Give it break, KC.
March 10th, 20097:06 pm
With all the chest thumping that goes on here, it good to hear a little sass every now and then.
March 10th, 20097:07 pm
Garlick — Points well taken and well made. Clearly Gorecki struggled terribly until last year — and I’ve barely heard of the guy, so who knows if last year was a fluke, or a turnaround. Also, I’ve never seen him play, so I take your word about his modest defensive skills.
But I also think one has to be careful about throwing around tags — positive or negative, and I remember when Matt Diaz was dismissed as a career minor leaguer.
And speaking of tags, and accepting that one year doesn’t a career make, but compare, again, Gorecki last year to a certain “can’t miss superstar” who never played above AA — and the stats that earned him promotion to the bigs as our current right fielder:
Gorecki Miss. 2008 (67 Games):
Francouer, Miss. 2005 (84 Games)
AVG: 275, HR: 13, RBI: 62, SB: 13, OBP: 322, SLG: 487, OPS: 809
(Gorecki nearly 30 points higher AVG, 38 points higher OPS and more stolen bases while playing 17 fewer games). Lest we forget, those were the numbers that caused Frenchy to be anointed as the savior of the franchise and brought back to town among much hoopla. Like Schafer, he had been “tagged” as can’t miss, until he did.
Not at all suggesting Gorecki should be with the big club. But I do know we desperately need outfielders, and we ought to leave no stone unturned, and Gorecki had an intriguing year last year. If I was the AJC beat reporter, I’d want to know more about him — that’s all..
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