Kawakami debuts for Braves

 Bradenton, Fla. –- This is a story Bobby Cox has told a couple of times this week, with a smile that says, this is one that will be told for years.

  It was early in the morning last Sunday at Champion Stadium when the Braves manager arrived in the clubhouse and ran into Kenshin Kawakami and his interpreter Daichi Takasue.

  Bobby was surprised to see them, since players were getting their physicals that day and the team workout was to start three hours later than usual.

  “What are you doing here?” Bobby asked.

  “Physical,” Takasue answered.

  “Not here,” Bobby said, and explained to them that the clinic where players got their physicals was on the other side of Kissimmee, perhaps a 20-minute drive. Then he got directions for them.

  “One more problem,” Takasue said.

  “What?” Bobby asked.

  “No gas,” Takasue said, explaining that their rental car was low on fuel.

  “How much do you have,” asked Bobby, who handles such situations with a hell of a lot more patience than most of us.

  Bobby said Takasue replied, “We approximate 18 miles.”

  And with that, the manager gave them the keys to his own rental car and told them to take it.

  Which they did.

  Kawakami passed his physical.

  The 33-year-old Japanese pitcher faces his next “test,” as it were, today here at venerable McEchnie Field in Bradenton, where Kawakami makes his Braves debut with a Grapefruit League start against the Pittsburgh Pirates.

  He’s scheduled to work two innings, like all Braves starters do in their first appearance of the spring.

  He’s No. 11 in your programs, No. 1 in the hearts of Braves fans in Chunichi where Kawakami compiled a 112-72 record and 3.22 ERA in 257 games (including 29 complete games) over the past 11 seasons for the Chunichi Dragons in that city.

  The former Japan Central League MVP and winner of the 2004 Sawamura Award (their Cy Young Award), Kawakami has about a dozen Japanese media following him on a daily basis. They are all here today, plus about 15-18 others who’ve been covering the Red Sox and Yankees, all coming over to see K.K.

  This is very significant to them, and to the Braves.

  It’s the second anticipated debut in as many days for an Atlanta pitcher, after top prospect Tommy Hanson pitched two innings yesterday against the Astros.

  This one isn’t on that level of significance, perhaps, for most fans, because Hanson is 11 years younger, was signed and developed by the Braves, and figures to be a very big part of their future for a lot of years.

  But this is still big, no doubt. Kawakami is the first Japanese player to wear a Braves major league uniform, and they signed him to a three-year, $23 million contract this winter after he was pursued by a lot of other teams, including the Boston Red Sox.

  He’ll fit somewhere in the middle of the Braves’ rotation, probably No. 3 or No. 4, and the Braves are counting on him.

  “I’m very anxious to see him pitch in games,” said Cox, who’s raved about Kawakami’s work in the bullpen, particularly his excellent location and big curveball.

  “He’s kind of like Catfish [Hunter],” Cox said, “in the way that he doesn’t walk a lot of people, but is willing to give up a homer sometimes.”

  But just as Cox didn’t put much, if any, importance on the final pitching line yesterday for Hanson (two innings, two hits, two runs, one walk, two strikeouts), he won’t get concerned or excited about the numbers that Kawakami produces today.

 When you’ve managed in the bigs for 28 seasons, you know that Feb. 27 pitching lines mean next to nothing in the bigger picture.

  “It’s spring training,” said Cox, who loved what he saw of Hanson, particularly the movement on his fastball, which was clocked consistently at 95-96 mph and touched 99 mph once.

  “Get his work in and don’t worry about,” Cox said of what he wanted Kawakami to do today. “You get ‘em out, you don’t get ‘em out, it’s spring training. We’re here to get ready for opening day.”

  OK, I know you folks can’t watch the way you could yesterday, when that game was on ESPN. So we’ll try to give you some updates.

  Gotta keep this short because game’s about to start.

  Oh, and remind me to tell you sometime about the stop I made on the ride over, when I got coffee, gas and a lighter at a B.P. station outside Polk City that had showers (it was a truck stop).

   And on my way out of the station, a group of Mennonites walked in.

  There is no punchline. In fact, there is nothing more to the story.

  So nevermind the part about asking me later. I guess I just found it amusing at the time, the juxtaposition or whatever.

  Then I went to my car and fired up a mighty fine Punch cigar for the rest of the drive over.

 

“I CAN’T STAND ME” by Merle Haggard

I can’t stand me since I lost you

and I can’t stand nobody else

I can’t stand me since you went away

and I gotta get away from myself

 

I used to be a high-stepper with a lot on the ball

my friends all called me Ace

It took a woman like you to bring a good man down

And make me ashamed to even show my face

I can’t stand me since I lost you…

 

Oh when I look in the glass and see a grown man cry it makes me wanna hang my head

I used to feel real proud just to be alive but now I think I’d rather be dead

I can’t stand me since I lost you…

 

I’m gonna find me a river about ten miles wide

with a bridge right all way cross

I’m gonna drag myself about half way over

 and then I’m gonna throw me off

I can’t stand me since I lost you…

Yeah I gotta get away from myself

895 comments Add your comment

Matt

February 27th, 2009
1:09 pm

GA leading off and playing centerfield. Wow I bet he hasn’t been in either spot in a long time.

dogsbrekky

February 27th, 2009
1:10 pm

Is this game on any RADIO station today ??

HeywardTheFuture

February 27th, 2009
1:11 pm

how many brain surgeons does it take to figure out the misprinted the name and that it’s really Josh Anderson?

braves4ever

February 27th, 2009
1:13 pm

Wow this feels like a new pair of shoes,

David O'Brien

February 27th, 2009
1:14 pm

Forgot to post the lineup, which yesterday seemed to mess up the typeface for the rest of the blog beneath it anyway, so maybe it’s best I did forget.

Here it is (Braves just went down 1-2-3 in first inning, Kawakami warming up now)

1. Josh Anderson, CF; 2. Omar Infante, SS; 3. Chipper Jones, 3B; 4. Brian McCann, C; 5. Jeff Francoeur, RF; 6. Matt Diaz, LF; 7. Freddie Freeman, 1B; 8. Greg Norton, DH; 9. Diory Hernandez, 2B.

PIRATES:
1. Nate McLouth, CF; 2. Jack Wilson, SS; 3. Freddy Sanchez, 2B; 4. Ryan Doumit, C; 5. Adam LaRoche, 1B: 6. Eric Hinske, DH; 7. Jose Tabata, RF; 8. Ramon Vazquez, 3B; 9. Jeff Salazar, LF.

… Kawakami’s first pitch: A fastball down the middle taken for Strike 1.

Andrew

February 27th, 2009
1:14 pm

that is a very funny kawakami story..its going to interesting with him this year..bobby’s the man

i cant take it anymore

February 27th, 2009
1:15 pm

whats a brain surgeon?

David O'Brien

February 27th, 2009
1:16 pm

McLouth grounded out to first to lead off.

PTBNL

February 27th, 2009
1:17 pm

From last blog….

Slugger, as you have described, yes, we are very much in agreement…. including the “throw the hands” method. Though I am aware that it can be used to correct some hitting illnesses… as a mental picture, it is not really accurate and is not an ideal hitting method.

Ease19, Anders mentioned it yesterday when he was here. Of course, he knew it before anyone else here did.

TheManMike

February 27th, 2009
1:17 pm

Let me thank DOB and anyone else who offers the play-by-play for todays game…….ITS IS MUCH APPRECIATED!!! seriously.

ease19

February 27th, 2009
1:17 pm

MinnesotaJacket

February 27th, 2009
1:18 pm

Im so glad are offense still has done little to nothing at the beginning of games haha….jeez…

BravesFan

February 27th, 2009
1:18 pm

AJones with Rangers 0 for 3 with 3 Ks.

macdwolfpack

February 27th, 2009
1:18 pm

Dave, thanks for the play by play can’t find the game on anywhere and much appreciate the play by play postings.

David O'Brien

February 27th, 2009
1:18 pm

Jack Wilson fly to shallow CF for second out.

Kawakami paints a fastball on outside corner first-pitch strike to Sanchez, who pops out to CF for third out.

MinnesotaJacket

February 27th, 2009
1:18 pm

I agree with Mike on that…will be here late today at work..

KC

February 27th, 2009
1:18 pm

DWW, thanks for the radio info.

David O'Brien

February 27th, 2009
1:19 pm

13 pitches/9 strikes for Kawakami-san in first inning

TheManMike

February 27th, 2009
1:19 pm

How are the faces looking like for the first few batters compared to the faces of hitters against Hanson?

Steve

February 27th, 2009
1:19 pm

yeah this is great…so many positives out of Spring Training this year…just reading the updates on Hanson yesterday…I couldn’t watch it here in Canada…with Kenshin pictching today…so many positives…A big turnaround from some of the negative talk from the off-season…This team could be on the verge on a special season…

TheManMike

February 27th, 2009
1:19 pm

Kawakami-san……Love it.

MinnesotaJacket

February 27th, 2009
1:20 pm

not to bad a start…(even though its the pirates)…the first time we haven’t started off trailing in the first inning haha

David O'Brien

February 27th, 2009
1:21 pm

McCann won’t be going to Dunedin tomorrow (he was originally schedued to). He wanted to stay back at Dark Star and do a ton of hitting before he reports to U.S. WBC camp on Sunday, and Bobby said no problem.

Only regulars making trip tomorrow are K.J., Escobar, Kotchman and Josh Anderson.

DWW

February 27th, 2009
1:21 pm

kawakami… lock for 09 cy young

i cant take it anymore

February 27th, 2009
1:22 pm

Thanks for the update, David.
is the Japanese media going nuts with the flashbulbs?

David O'Brien

February 27th, 2009
1:22 pm

Speaking of McCann, he just drew a leadoff walk in second inning, bringing up Francoeur….

Francoeur takes first-pitch ball.

McFann :Ô:

February 27th, 2009
1:22 pm

Thanks for the play-by-play! Mac’s coming up now, right??

Petey had a good bath. He really loves them (actually, theyre more like showers, ’cause we use a spritzer bottle, but anyway…)

TBraveFan

Petey does that loud “alert” thing, too. Baby Bird is a cockatiel, too, right?

toga party

February 27th, 2009
1:23 pm

Big booooo on the lack of audio on mlb.tv. Are the Pirates radio guys not broadcasting either?

Steve

February 27th, 2009
1:23 pm

Hey DOB…any idea when G. Anderson will get in the line-up?

Renegator

February 27th, 2009
1:23 pm

I wish we could see Kawakami pitch today…

David O'Brien

February 27th, 2009
1:23 pm

Francoeur took ball 2, that’s six consecutive balls by LH Tom Gorzelanny to start the inning…

Make that seven, it’s 3-0 count….

dogsbrekky

February 27th, 2009
1:23 pm

Excellent play by plays, thanks DOBI 1 K – NOBI

Renegator

February 27th, 2009
1:23 pm

Enter your comments here

DWW

February 27th, 2009
1:23 pm

Francoeur did what???

eltrompoBRAVESfan

February 27th, 2009
1:24 pm

I wish I wasn’t such a cheapskate when it comes to mlb.tv

David O'Brien

February 27th, 2009
1:24 pm

Finally threw a strike, which Francoeur took on 3-0.

Now he’s walked him on five pitches. When’s last time Francoeur didn’t swing the bat in a five-pitch plate appearance?

GTSteve

February 27th, 2009
1:24 pm

I have a fun idea for the blog during the game today, in honor of ManRam , lets think of things we would not do for 25 mill a year. I seem to be drawing a blank right now.

McFann :Ô:

February 27th, 2009
1:25 pm

Lead off walk? Nice. That gives him an OBP of .500–2 walks in 4 PA. Still only one official at bat. Good to read he’s gonna get some hitting done tomorrow.

Renegator

February 27th, 2009
1:25 pm

Sorry about the double post. Still getting used to this new system.

Trbodawg

February 27th, 2009
1:25 pm

You can get play by play at http://m.mlb.com/scores/plays/2009_02_27_atlmlb_pitmlb_1/1 – you just have to refresh the screen periodically….

eltrompoBRAVESfan

February 27th, 2009
1:25 pm

Well that’s a promising at-bat for Frenchy! Ha! A guy will never get so many good comments for taking a walk than Frenchy.

Gibby

February 27th, 2009
1:26 pm

thanks D.O.B It is nice to follow along

brad

February 27th, 2009
1:26 pm

DOB-is there any significant trade value for Morton, Reyes, Campillo? I will leave Bennett and Parr off the list because I know the answer.

TDub

February 27th, 2009
1:26 pm

DOB, interested to hear your thoughts on Tabata, and Pedro Alvarez too if they play him today…

eltrompoBRAVESfan

February 27th, 2009
1:27 pm

GTSteve- How about cheering for the Mets?

Nick Nunziata

February 27th, 2009
1:27 pm

Loving the DOB commentary track. Please keep it up!

Jackie Treehorn

February 27th, 2009
1:27 pm

Did Kawakami beat out Dice-K for the Japanese Cy Young Award in 2004, or were they in different leagues? Impressive if he did beat him.

BravesFan

February 27th, 2009
1:27 pm

Manny Ramirez is flat out stupid for turning down 2 years and $45 million. I would play for the worst team in the league and enjoy every bit of it for league minimum. I hope Manny retires because he doesn’t deserve another shot after turning the Dodgers down again.

David O'Brien

February 27th, 2009
1:27 pm

Diaz has worked the count full, fouled off some pitches … and grounds into a 5-4-3 DP.

Confused

February 27th, 2009
1:27 pm

So who is in Center? Garret Anderson or Josh? DOB said Josh but the play by play says Garrett…

Renegator

February 27th, 2009
1:27 pm

Is it Garrett Anderson playing CF or Josh Anderson?

eltrompoBRAVESfan

February 27th, 2009
1:28 pm

Enter your comments here

GTSteve

February 27th, 2009
1:28 pm

Ok , I might want 30 a year to do that…lol

David O'Brien

February 27th, 2009
1:28 pm

Freddie Freeman 4-3 groundout to end it. Gorzelanny escapes after walking first two guys.

PWHjort

February 27th, 2009
1:28 pm

Francoeur drew a walk?

eltrompoBRAVESfan

February 27th, 2009
1:28 pm

Yeah no kidding! lol

ease19

February 27th, 2009
1:29 pm

Was it really Francoer, or so sort of alien impostor?

TDub

February 27th, 2009
1:29 pm

I’d settle for 45 million FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE

eltrompoBRAVESfan

February 27th, 2009
1:29 pm

Hey yall, just in case there’s somebody who doesn’t know, MLB network’s 30 clubs/ 30 days program will do the Braves on Tuesday, March 2.

CincyBrave

February 27th, 2009
1:29 pm

BravesFan… Regarding the Manny contract, I think he is fine with the dollars and length, he just dosen’t want to money deferred (with no interest), which I totally understand. I would be upset if my boss told me I had to work this year but couldn’t get paid for it for a another 3 years.

bgvt

February 27th, 2009
1:30 pm

DOB:

I think it was June 21, 2007

Jackie Treehorn

February 27th, 2009
1:30 pm

Garrett Anderson is not a center fielder. Never has been. That’s Josh in center.

BravesFan

February 27th, 2009
1:31 pm

Manny is proof that most players are spoiled today. After the crap he pulled in Boston no one should have touched him. Also that 2 year deal was a player option on the second year so he could have a huge year for the Dodgers and leave for somewhere else. Idiot!

keylargo

February 27th, 2009
1:31 pm

Leading off and playing CF for the Braves – Gosh Anderson

BraveTiger

February 27th, 2009
1:31 pm

DOB – I know these are early games, but when the starting pitchers begin going 3-4 innings, will they start to bat so they can get in possible game situations?

lewie

February 27th, 2009
1:31 pm

kwakakakakaka is going to dominate

i just want to see that dookie 12-6 hook he’s got….some boys are going to look terrible swinging at that thing this season

David O'Brien

February 27th, 2009
1:32 pm

Doumit 6-3 grounded to start second inning.

dogsbrekky

February 27th, 2009
1:32 pm

How cheap are the Dodgers, they give away Lowe, Penny, Nomar etc etc and then they have the best chance in hell to make a winning year on and off the field and cheap ass McCourt wants to delay some payments to Manny, what for………… ?

lewie

February 27th, 2009
1:33 pm

KK is taking over

damn i wanna be watching this rightnow

David O'Brien

February 27th, 2009
1:33 pm

Ol’ Rochy takes 1-0 pitch for a strike, the hits a bloop single to shallow left just beyond the reach of Chipper running back and Infante running over at an angle. Weak single, no way they could get to it.

VolBrave

February 27th, 2009
1:33 pm

Does anyone know how Andruw is doing this spring? I know he’s with Texas on a minor league contract worth $500,000 but aside from that, has anyone seen him play or heard otherwise?

Random

February 27th, 2009
1:33 pm

Wayne in Utah (12:48 pm): “Actually, I hope he never signs. I hope the selfish you know what and his money grubbing agent lose their shirts on this one.

I have no patience or need for somebody who would lay down on his team, just to get a better deal. I just hope he gets what he deserves.”

Who you talkin about, Wayne?

Babe Ruth in 1919?

Or Joe Dimaggio in 1938?

Or maybe Curt Flood in 1970?

Your accusations above are equally valid to all three, you know.

Yer just a hater, Wayne — plain and simple.

PS: KC: “Does anyone know if today’s game is on local radio (in ATL)?”

Apparently not.

Here’s the braves.com radio broadcast schedule.

cabravesfan

February 27th, 2009
1:34 pm

dogsbrekky-

you answered your own question: “cheap ass McCourt…” pretty much sums him up

Patrick

February 27th, 2009
1:34 pm

Thanks for the play by play DOB.
It’s much appreciated!!

BravesFan

February 27th, 2009
1:34 pm

Andruw 0 for 3 with 3ks.

eltrompoBRAVESfan

February 27th, 2009
1:34 pm

Hey DOB, I’ve heard criticism of Kawa’s fastball. What are you observing with regards to his pitches?

David O'Brien

February 27th, 2009
1:35 pm

Beautiful first-pitch curveball to Pedro Alvarez, which he takes for a strike (he’s DHing in place of Hinske, scratched with a bruised chest).

Fly out to left field, out two.

BT

February 27th, 2009
1:35 pm

Did you say Frenchy took the first pitch for a ball?

TBraveFan

February 27th, 2009
1:35 pm

McFann (sorry I don’t know how to bold in the new format) — yep – he’s small for a cockatiel – about the size of a large parakeet actually. Totally hates bathing…and any other maintenance! LOL

DWW

February 27th, 2009
1:36 pm

DOB is doing play by play. No time to field questions. Keep it up DOB, and thanks.

Jackie Treehorn

February 27th, 2009
1:36 pm

Kawakami has MARBLES

GTSteve

February 27th, 2009
1:37 pm

Hey funny Andrew story, I think it was on AJC.COM, the last intrasquad game he hit a double and a home run……just to the left of the headline was the city that the story originates in…..they were in Suprise AZ….how appropriate

Shinnbone

February 27th, 2009
1:37 pm

DOB, insignificant detail, but a little correction. Chunichu Dragons are in Nagoya. Japanese baseball teams don’t have their home city names in their team names, but rather, their parent company names. This results in some really weird ones, like Soft Bank Hawks and Nippon Ham Fighters. I’ve seen the Fighters been referred to as “Ham Fighters,” but it’s really the FIghters owned by Nippon Ham.

Oh well in Japan, Stevie Ray Vaughan is often referred to as “Ray Vaughan,” so it goes both ways.

eltrompoBRAVESfan

February 27th, 2009
1:37 pm

He’s got time! He’s all-knowing, all-powerful!

David O'Brien

February 27th, 2009
1:38 pm

Runs count to full against Jose Tabata with runner at first base and two outs…. And strikes him out on a high fastball, swinging through it.

Folks, Kawakami-san looks very good.

toga party

February 27th, 2009
1:38 pm

Wow, a pitcher couldn’t locate to the previous batter, and Frenchy laid off 5 straight pitches? And drew his first walk of ST? Nice. Now that’s encouraging.

If he hits to right field today, I’ll start taking some very small sips of the kool-aid.

DWW

February 27th, 2009
1:38 pm

TBraveFan
Can you and McFann get a private chat room for the bird talk? Thanks.

Runnin

February 27th, 2009
1:38 pm

Yes, Frenchy took all 5 pitches in his walk, never swung.

Run Heap Run

February 27th, 2009
1:38 pm

Oh yeah I forgot all about Manny….did he ever sign with anybody?

Thanks for the live updates, DOB.

David O'Brien

February 27th, 2009
1:38 pm

Kawakami threw 29 pitches, 18 strikes

cphizzle

February 27th, 2009
1:38 pm

Francouer to lead the league in walks this year…mark the words fellas

ease19

February 27th, 2009
1:39 pm

TBraveFan

YOUR TEXT but no spaces between strongs…

You guys need to send photos of your birds to Lew so he can sketch them…so we can see what they look like! :grin:

AL

February 27th, 2009
1:39 pm

Mets are playing St. Louis on MLB network. Mets up 3-0 and batting with 2 out in bottom of 2nd.

BrandonC

February 27th, 2009
1:40 pm

Good opener for Kawakami!

Jackie Treehorn

February 27th, 2009
1:40 pm

The only thing that scares me about this team is the fact Chipper said Francoeur was the key to us having a good season. That’s one step below Houston banking on Hampton to be the key to their success.

KC

February 27th, 2009
1:40 pm

DOB, out of curiosity, where is Kawakami on the radar gun?

TheManMike

February 27th, 2009
1:40 pm

I’m still vollying for Hot Sake at the Ted this season….maybe start it for only nights in which Kenshin starts……..?

David O'Brien

February 27th, 2009
1:40 pm

There are two TV cameramen and five still photographers in front of the Braves’ dugout between innings, capturing Kawakami’s every gesture and discussion.

Random

February 27th, 2009
1:40 pm

Baseball Prospectus’ Clay Davenport on Kenshin Kawakami (川上), 26 Feb:

Unfortunately for [the Orioles], as a starter [Koji Uehara]’s just another [question mark].

On the other hand, 川上 gives the Braves a more hopeful case, though still not without cause for some doubt.

For two of the last three years, 川上 has not pitched at the level of an above-average major league pitcher, though he did turn it around last year. If he struggles in the US, it will probably be because of his home-run tendencies (considering that the HR/9 column is set so that 1.0 is average). That’s a product of trying to get ahead in the count with an unimpressive fastball—hitters will have their chances to tee off on it. He’s been healthier than Uehara, but he did miss time with a back injury last season, as well as winding up spending some time with the Olympic team last summer.

*******************************************

Baseball Prospectus’ Clay Davenport on Kenshin Kawakami (川上), 20 Jan:

Kenshin Kawakami
DOB: 6/22/75 (33)
Height/Weight: 5-10/200
Bats/Throws: R/R
Team: Chunichi Dragons, Central League, NPB

川上 has been one of Japan’s better pitchers over the last decade, with a string of honors that include an NPB Rookie of the Year award, an MVP award (in 2004), and a Sawamura Award (roughly the equivalent of our Cy Young Award). The scouting reports say that while his fastball is just average, he earns high marks for his cutter, his slow curveball, and his control. I can’t say I’m fond of the up-and-down pattern of his career, particularly since his three-year contract with the Braves is set to land on two of the down seasons were the pattern to persist.

There is a second reason for concern, however. Chunichi is regarded as a good pitchers’ park, and the translation process may not be doing an adequate job of rendering this. The pitchers who have pitched in both Chunichi and in the US since 2003 have a combined translated ERA of 5.15 in Chunichi, and 5.98 elsewhere. On the other hand, that stat comes from just five pitchers, only one of whom—Luis Martinez—pitched more than 80 innings in Chunichi. The translation makes 川上 roughly as good a pitcher as Jair Jurrjens was for the Braves last year; I don’t think he’ll do quite that well, but he ought to be better than an average National League pitcher.

And here, by the way, is 川上’s Player Page on http://www.japanesebaseball.com.

dogsbrekky

February 27th, 2009
1:40 pm

Someone say Stevie Ray – just love that guy, my older brother introduced me to his early stuff when I was still a wee pup, awesome musician……

Kawakami-san is hot…..

TBraveFan

February 27th, 2009
1:40 pm

DWW – probably not

Thrillhouse44

February 27th, 2009
1:41 pm

Is “Daichi” Japanese for “DOB”?

ease19

February 27th, 2009
1:41 pm

braves4ever

February 27th, 2009
1:41 pm

MANNY, did someone say MANNY, MANNY o not MANNY

macdwolfpack

February 27th, 2009
1:41 pm

DOB, with only 29 pitches and the ease at which Kenchin pitched does he go one more inning?

JOE

February 27th, 2009
1:42 pm

you are the man DOB

cvbraves

February 27th, 2009
1:42 pm

DOB: We all owe you big time for the play-by-play!!! Thanks.

Skip

February 27th, 2009
1:42 pm

DOB, hows his velocity look?

brian

February 27th, 2009
1:42 pm

Frenchy took 3 pitches – this guy must be way out of the strike zone

TheManMike

February 27th, 2009
1:43 pm

K-san………..thats alot shorter than typing his entire name…..right?

This guy has the stuff…im so excited. I also would like to know what he looks like on the radar…

David O'Brien

February 27th, 2009
1:43 pm

Diory Hernandez draws one-out walk to bring up J. Anderson…

Reid in EAV

February 27th, 2009
1:43 pm

DOB, many thanks for the play-by-play. Hanging on it here in rainy ATL. Very excited about Kawakami.

Now, those silly MLB eligibility rules (which ignores prior pro experience in another league) is still in effect, allowing him to be a legit contender for ROY, right?

KC

February 27th, 2009
1:43 pm

Jackie Treehorn, no it’s not. There’s no guarantee that Francoeur will bounce back, certainly. But it’s more likely than not that he will. There have been MANY good hitters who have had season-long slumps for no apparent reason.

Just to name a couple… Mike Schmidt had a terrible season at a similar point in his career, and Mark McGwire had a year (in his prime) where he hit .201… steroids and all.

There’s too much talent there. He’ll be fine. I’d wager a 20-spot on it in a heartbeat.

David O'Brien

February 27th, 2009
1:44 pm

Ol’ Rochy makes nice stab on liner to his right, gets out at first, moves D. Hernandez to second.

Karl Hungus

February 27th, 2009
1:44 pm

Francoeur is really earning his new deal

TheManMike

February 27th, 2009
1:45 pm

Jackie Treehorn is the man….made me go out and get a beach full of pornstars throwing me up and down from a big blanket…..naked…….
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…………………….Sorry……

David O'Brien

February 27th, 2009
1:45 pm

Three Hooters waitresses just walked by beneath the pressbox, in full uniform.

Eric

February 27th, 2009
1:45 pm

Who’s scheduled to pitch after Kawakami?

rammerjammer

February 27th, 2009
1:45 pm

David, I feel like a kid with his ear to the transistor radio. The play by play and Kawakami paparazzi info is fantastic. Thanks!

braves4ever

February 27th, 2009
1:45 pm

Reid in EAV , I believe you are right, he is a rookie

David O'Brien

February 27th, 2009
1:45 pm

Infante doubled off base of the CF wall to drive in first run of game, nice two-out knock

macdwolfpack

February 27th, 2009
1:46 pm

Braves baseball and Hooters waitresses, are you sure you’ve not died and gone to heaven DOB?

Karl Hungus

February 27th, 2009
1:46 pm

KC I will take you bet

Steve McP

February 27th, 2009
1:46 pm

“Full Uniform” is a bit of an oxymoron for Hooters waitresses

VolBrave

February 27th, 2009
1:46 pm

Reid…yes he is ROY eligible.

How can we forget Chipper getting the shaft in ‘95 to Hideo No-longer in the league-o. Absolute crap.

DWW

February 27th, 2009
1:46 pm

DOB
Now thats play by play…. more details

toga party

February 27th, 2009
1:46 pm

TheManMike, K-san is a little too close to Khe Sanh for my tastes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Khe_Sanh

Run Heap Run

February 27th, 2009
1:46 pm

Insert Hooters waitress joke here.

Thrillhouse44

February 27th, 2009
1:46 pm

“Three Hooters waitresses just walked by beneath the pressbox, in full uniform.”

And there goes the play by play…

Renegator

February 27th, 2009
1:47 pm

Three Hooters waitresses just walked by beneath the pressbox, in full uniform. – DOB

Better keep an eye on Chipper!

Karl Hungus

February 27th, 2009
1:47 pm

I bet Chipper is in Heaven

KC

February 27th, 2009
1:47 pm

Karl Hungus, email me at kccjr1@gmail.com, and we’ll hammer out the terms.

DWW

February 27th, 2009
1:48 pm

low blow on chipper

brian

February 27th, 2009
1:48 pm

“Better keep an eye on Chipper!”

Why?? What’s he wearing??

BravesFan

February 27th, 2009
1:48 pm

If Hooters girls are around you better keep your eyes on Chipper.

Anba

February 27th, 2009
1:48 pm

Andy loves Bobby’s Cox!

David O'Brien

February 27th, 2009
1:48 pm

Chipper draws a walk, runners at first and second for Mac

Takes a 1-1 pitch for strike 2, then another inside for 2-2 count

Renegator

February 27th, 2009
1:48 pm

Why?? What’s he wearing?? – brian

Good one!

braves4ever

February 27th, 2009
1:49 pm

We will know how much DOB watches the game by his misspelled words

Bamakirk

February 27th, 2009
1:49 pm

That was wrong Renegator. But very funny.

lewie

February 27th, 2009
1:49 pm

hooters girls at the game?

keep an eye on larry

King521

February 27th, 2009
1:49 pm

We all agree Chipper got jobbed in 1995…but Nomo not being in the league is no surprise…he will be 41 years-old this year.

JOE

February 27th, 2009
1:49 pm

he meant keep your eye on chipper cuz chipper is up at bat!

dogsbrekky

February 27th, 2009
1:49 pm

toga party – Khe Sahn is greatest ever Aussie song see

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tv24elfqC-I

TheManMike

February 27th, 2009
1:49 pm

Toga Party…..your tastes really mean little to me. Sheesh, can’t even abbreviate things anoymore or draw cartoons these days without some loon taking offense…..Just call me El Duderino since we’re not into the whole, a brevity thing….

whensidslid92

February 27th, 2009
1:49 pm

omar infante is the consummate utility man….love having him back this year

Renegator

February 27th, 2009
1:50 pm

low blow on chipper – DWW

Only hurts cause it’s true!

KC

February 27th, 2009
1:50 pm

Karl Hungus, just to warn you… I have a pretty good track record with these types of bets. I took a few people’s money on a similar bet after Tim Hudson had that poor season a few years ago. =)

lewie

February 27th, 2009
1:50 pm

agree sidslide

omar is a great player to have off the bench

dogsbrekky

February 27th, 2009
1:51 pm

On a funnier note, watching ‘Mucils versus cards, poor old Freedy Garcia looks horrid, old slow, fat as Andruw (2008), they’ve actually pulled the radar (off)

cphizzle

February 27th, 2009
1:51 pm

hey DOB can we get a visual on the hooter girls and there uniforms

TheManMike

February 27th, 2009
1:51 pm

BTW – it was K-san…not Khe Sahn………quite simply for ease of typing purposes…..

Any word on velocity from K-san??

David O'Brien

February 27th, 2009
1:51 pm

Full count now to Mac, and he fouls a couple of pitches down 1B line, then draws a walk to load bases.

Bases loaded for … Francoeur. Hey, it’s a new season. Stop that.

Epinephrine

February 27th, 2009
1:52 pm

David O'Brien

February 27th, 2009
1:52 pm

Francoeur takes first two pitches for balls, then pulls a screamer foul to left….

Then grounds out to short. Inning over.

lewie

February 27th, 2009
1:52 pm

comeon frenchy

Rodney Derrick

February 27th, 2009
1:52 pm

DOB, Yesterday I commented early in the game about empty seats and shortly thereafter, another commenter stated that problem was early ST start. Later you said “Yikes”. Have you picked up any thoughts from management on this, and how is attendance today in Pirates’ home base?

Patrick

February 27th, 2009
1:52 pm

Same old, same old

Karl Hungus

February 27th, 2009
1:52 pm

Well Hudson is good French sucks

Bravely going forward

February 27th, 2009
1:52 pm

braves4ever

February 27th, 2009
1:52 pm

Karl Hungus

February 27th, 2009
1:52 pm

How about that KC

David O'Brien

February 27th, 2009
1:53 pm

Buddy Carlyle in to pitch for Bravos to start third

Anba

February 27th, 2009
1:53 pm

Yea KC I see how Francoeur has changed already! Hes SO CLUTCH!

whensidslid92

February 27th, 2009
1:53 pm

“Then grounds out to short. Inning over.”

Let me guess….tried pulling a breaking pitch? A la Andruw Jones…

Bamakirk

February 27th, 2009
1:54 pm

Has Ohman signed with anyone?

Butch Haynes

February 27th, 2009
1:54 pm

I go to Hooters for the wings. That’s why I go there. The only reason. Very nice wings. It’s so funny you think I’d go there for some other reason. That’s so stupid. No other reason for me to go there but the wings. That’s it. Period. Love the wings. Great wings. Not another thing about that place that attracts me. Just the wings. Very tasty. Everything else about that place repulses. But those wings, delicious. Only reason I go there.

Anba

February 27th, 2009
1:55 pm

bdd lives!!!!!!!!!!!!!

KC

February 27th, 2009
1:55 pm

Karl Hungus, email me at the address I gave in a previous post, and let’s get this Frenchy bet set up.

ease19

February 27th, 2009
1:55 pm

Hey, lay off Frenchy…he took seven pitches IN A ROW!

BravesFan

February 27th, 2009
1:55 pm

Idiots at MLB.com still think that Garrett Anderson is playing and batting lead off. Someone must be asleep at the switch.

eltrompoBRAVESfan

February 27th, 2009
1:55 pm

Man, the bullseye is going to be on Frenchy for a long time ain’t it? Hope he doesn’t buckle!

Nick Nunziata

February 27th, 2009
1:55 pm

Hooters is dumb and the redneck outfits the waitresses wear ruin any potential.

ease19

February 27th, 2009
1:55 pm

Hooters actually has food?

Renegator

February 27th, 2009
1:56 pm

Standard Frenchy – failing with the bases loaded. Is it 2008 still?

Karl Hungus

February 27th, 2009
1:56 pm

give the email one more time

Ritchie from Scotland

February 27th, 2009
1:57 pm

judging by all your reactions should I bet upset that we don’t have Hooters over here? :)

thanks for the updates DOB!

Run Heap Run

February 27th, 2009
1:57 pm

You guys, Frenchy said he wasn’t going to suck this year so just calm down, everything will be fine….trust him!

KC

February 27th, 2009
1:57 pm

Karl & Anba, Y’all are absolutely right. Good hitters never ground out. What an idiot I’ve been.

So how ’bout it Karl? Are we gonna do this or not?

Anba

February 27th, 2009
1:57 pm

kc what are the terms I want some of the action! Frenchy will be average at best. Along the lines of under.290 UNDER 20 hr.

KC

February 27th, 2009
1:58 pm

Anba

February 27th, 2009
1:58 pm

I meant below average

KC

February 27th, 2009
1:58 pm

Anba, haven’t discussed terms yet.

ease19

February 27th, 2009
1:58 pm

Scotland doesn’t have any Hooters?

David O'Brien

February 27th, 2009
1:59 pm

Buddy also looking good, strikes out two in a perfect third inning

eltrompoBRAVESfan

February 27th, 2009
1:59 pm

Yeah Ritchie! You should be, although I’m not sure the weather would be conducive to the uniforms they wear!

How’s Buddy doin’?

Boribrave

February 27th, 2009
1:59 pm

Job well done by Kawakami!

Anba

February 27th, 2009
1:59 pm

Karl what numbers do u think frenchy will put up then?

braves4ever

February 27th, 2009
2:00 pm

David are you ordering food? whats happening?

Seymour1948

February 27th, 2009
2:00 pm

DOB-

Did you notice something about Logan yesterday? He was totally tipping his pitches. He has a pronounced high leg kick on his fastball deliveries and a very low slide step on his off-speed pitches. Hitters will definitely pick up on that sooner or later. Maybe that’s why he’s run into some trouble in the past. (Or maybe he just didn’t care about his mechanics as much for a Spring start). Maybe you could mention it to Roger. :)

Karl Hungus

February 27th, 2009
2:00 pm

All right bitch you better pay me

Braves20

February 27th, 2009
2:00 pm

Can only follow the box in central Florida today – no MLB Audio etc. But it appears Frenchy is mid season form with 3 LOBs through 3.

PWHjort

February 27th, 2009
2:00 pm

DOB, did Francoeur hit the ball hard or weakly?

dogsbrekky

February 27th, 2009
2:01 pm

Bugger, all of this Hooters talk, I went to the original one I think somewhere in North Carolina last year, outside the Palms in Vegas I cannot recall seeing so many 9-10s in one tiny place in my life…

I think the NYC Hooters is 3 blocks from my place but the g/f has me on “little girl” watch

“How much for the little girls, I want to buy the women…”

David O'Brien

February 27th, 2009
2:01 pm

Gotta go talk to Kawakami. Back in a while

pissON bonds

February 27th, 2009
2:01 pm

DOB, look what u started. Now I have to read through all these failed attempts at humor to read about baseball. thanks buddy.

Anba

February 27th, 2009
2:02 pm

kc what numbers do u think frenchy will put up??

PWHjort

February 27th, 2009
2:02 pm

I’m watching Mets Cardinals on MLB.TV. Livan Hernandez was effective for the first 2 innings and now the Mets have Freddy Garcia in and he’s terrible. He’s allowed 2 runs and walked 3 batters. The bases are loaded still only 2 out.

dogsbrekky

February 27th, 2009
2:02 pm

I hope we have Buddy in the 25 this year, he was very good, late 2008..

Patrick

February 27th, 2009
2:02 pm

Can anyone pick up with the play by play while DOB is gone?

toga party

February 27th, 2009
2:02 pm

TheManMike, it doesn’t offend me in the least. I wasn’t there. I just think there’s something a little inappropriate about calling an Asian pitcher a nickname that sounds identical to a memorable battle from the Vietnam War. Seems easier to just call him Kenshin, or KK.

Thrillhouse44

February 27th, 2009
2:03 pm

Richie from Scotland, if you like college drop out girls wearing short orange shorts, then yes.

braves4ever

February 27th, 2009
2:03 pm

DOB ,What an excuse.

dogsbrekky

February 27th, 2009
2:03 pm

PWHjort, Freddy has lost 12mph off his fatsball and he just plain sucks, looks really awful… he should fit then with the 3-5 ‘Mucils pitchers…..

18 Wheels of Love

February 27th, 2009
2:04 pm

Maybe Kawakami ordered the wings?

Anba

February 27th, 2009
2:04 pm

thrill house that sounds perfect

AL

February 27th, 2009
2:05 pm

Freddy Garcia getting hit around for the Mets. Mets ahead 3-2 with the bases full of Cardinals. Grounder to 3rd, Wright boots it. 2 runs score, 4-3 St. Louis. Error on Wright. Garcia is done.

Ritchie from Scotland

February 27th, 2009
2:05 pm

just looked it up, there’s a Hooters in England in Birmingham and they plan to put them in Scotland at some point soon….so ehh the wings are good yeah? :)

eltrompoBRAVESfan

February 27th, 2009
2:05 pm

I hope Bobby will be able to communicate and connect with Kawakami-shan as well as he does with others.

Southern Bones

February 27th, 2009
2:06 pm

Nobody cares about the Mets. Are you in the right place?

Lunatic Fringe

February 27th, 2009
2:06 pm

I wonder what Bobby was calling him today?

Reid in EAV

February 27th, 2009
2:07 pm

Not an ugly-swing K for Frenchy with bases drunk. That’s progress. I’ll take it.

PWHjort

February 27th, 2009
2:07 pm

You should care about the Mets. We play them quite a few times.

eltrompoBRAVESfan

February 27th, 2009
2:08 pm

It’ll be a pleasant surprise for sure Ritchie!

I hate that so many people are putting the Met’s ahead of us when it comes to the race with the Phils. Did anyone notice Johan being pulled due to “elbow tenderness”??

braves4ever

February 27th, 2009
2:08 pm

We care about as much for the METS as we do for Manny

GTSteve

February 27th, 2009
2:09 pm

I love to watch the Mets lose

eltrompoBRAVESfan

February 27th, 2009
2:09 pm

Now that I would do for 25 mil a year GTSteve!!!

cphizzle

February 27th, 2009
2:10 pm

oh no frenchy left 3 on in a spring training game quick everybody go into panic mode!!!!!!!

Southern Bones

February 27th, 2009
2:10 pm

I will watch them when we play them. I do not give a rats ass about their team or their players.

McFann :Ô:

February 27th, 2009
2:10 pm

Dude, another walk. .600 OBP…

(Note to DWW: You cann just scroll past the rest. Gonna talk Bird for a minute.)

TBraveFan

To make Bold letters, type “strong” (without quotes) in between these: . Then type the word(s) you want bolded, and then do the “strong” thing again, only put a / before the word strong. Kinda complicated and hard to explain…hope that helps.

Your Baby hates baths? That’s funny! Petey loves them. He got really excited when he saw the stuff…been a while since he’s had one.

Ease19

I actually draw birds, myself (not half as good as Lew, though). The reall shocker is that I’ve never actually drawn my Lovey–I have drawn white-faced cockatiels, before, though.

If you wanna see a photo of my Lovey, you cann try copying one of these addresses and pasting it in your address bar. It worked once before:

file:///Users/us/Snapshot%202009-02-27%2014-06-29.tiff

file:///Users/us/P1000045.JPG

Those are two of my favorite pictures of him–they capture the real Petey.

cvbraves

February 27th, 2009
2:10 pm

Norton homers in top of fourth…Braves 2-0.

DWW

February 27th, 2009
2:11 pm

B:0 S:0 O:1 – Matt Diaz grounds out, second baseman Freddy Sanchez to first baseman Adam LaRoche.

——————————————————————————–

B:0 S:3 O:2 – Frederick Freeman strikes out swinging, catcher Ryan Doumit to first baseman Adam LaRoche.

——————————————————————————–

B:2 S:0 O:2 – Greg Norton homers (1) on a line drive to left field.

——————————————————————————–

B:0 S:0 O:3 – Diory Hernandez pops out to first baseman Adam LaRoche in foul territory.

Bravestillidie

February 27th, 2009
2:11 pm

I am fairly certain that Campillo will be in Gwinnett. I would bet that Bennett and perhaps Buddy stay with the big club to be long/middle relief.

Logan

February 27th, 2009
2:12 pm

Norton solo hr

eltrompoBRAVESfan

February 27th, 2009
2:12 pm

Nice hitting for Norton! There we go!

[...] Kawakami Debuts for the Braves[Dave O'Brien/AJC.com] [...]

McFann :Ô:

February 27th, 2009
2:12 pm

Hey, the greater-than, less-than signs didn’t show up in my post! But they’re what you hafta put “strong” between.

ShipHockey7

February 27th, 2009
2:12 pm

I love college dropouts in short orange shorts…

MGL

February 27th, 2009
2:13 pm

Top of the 4th

Diaz grounds out
Freeman strikes out
Notron HOMERS
Hernandez pops out

dogsbrekky

February 27th, 2009
2:13 pm

Okay, someone at the game grab DOBI’s pc and start blogging

DWW

February 27th, 2009
2:13 pm

B:0 S:0 O:1 – Jack Wilson flies out to right fielder Jeff Francoeur.

——————————————————————————–

B:0 S:0 O:2 – Freddy Sanchez grounds out, shortstop Omar Infante to first baseman Frederick Freeman.

——————————————————————————–

B:0 S:0 O:2 – Ryan Doumit singles on a line drive to right fielder Jeff Francoeur.

——————————————————————————–

B:0 S:3 O:3 – Adam LaRoche called out on strikes

BravesFaninPhilly

February 27th, 2009
2:13 pm

I’m thrilled to have Norton on the bench. It’s nice to know we’ve got some power coming in to pinch hit. He might be our Matt Stairs.

TBraveFan

February 27th, 2009
2:13 pm

I think Omar just got an RBI – got Diory in – we are up 1-0

eltrompoBRAVESfan

February 27th, 2009
2:15 pm

Who pitched for us in that inning? Carlye?

AL

February 27th, 2009
2:15 pm

Southern Bones, in case you didn’t know, the Mets are in our division. Some people like to know what the competition is doing. You’re not the only one on this blog. If you don’t like a post, just keep scrolling.

GTSteve…exactly!

Ritchie from Scotland

February 27th, 2009
2:15 pm

who’s next up to pitch for the Braves?

DWW

February 27th, 2009
2:15 pm

B:0 S:0 O:0 – Pitcher Change: Daniel McCutchen replaces Zach Duke

dogsbrekky

February 27th, 2009
2:16 pm

DWW – thanks, are you at the game, where is play by play ??

ncscoots

February 27th, 2009
2:16 pm

Hey, please try to remember that some young adults frequent this blog, young in the sense of years rather than maturity. At least employ some disguise in our adult language terms, huh?

eltrompoBRAVESfan

February 27th, 2009
2:16 pm

BravesFanInPhilly- I agree with ya, especially if Diaz can stay healthy, and some good performances from our prospects our bench will be the best in the NL East for sure.

glorydays

February 27th, 2009
2:18 pm

Glad Carlyle did well. Talked with him for awhile at last years spring training. He seems like a really good guy, family guy, will do anything to be part of the team

DWW

February 27th, 2009
2:18 pm

its on mlb.com

MFin04

February 27th, 2009
2:19 pm

Play by play is here online: http://m.mlb.com/scores/plays/2009_02_27_atlmlb_pitmlb_1/5

Someone smarter than myself found it…im just reposting it.

Thrillhouse44

February 27th, 2009
2:19 pm

As we all should, ShipHockey, as we all should…

KC

February 27th, 2009
2:19 pm

Anba, well I don’t claim to know what he’ll do, but I think it’s more likely than not that he’ll bounce back. By “bounce back”, I mean numbers in the same neighborhood as his 06/07 numbers.

An average between .270-295, 17-25 homers, 85-110 RBI

ShipHockey7

February 27th, 2009
2:20 pm

ncsoots, where’s the poor language?

MFin04

February 27th, 2009
2:21 pm

Scoring so far thtough 4….

Top 3 – Omar Infante doubles (1) on a line drive to center fielder Nate McLouth. Diory Hernandez scores.
ATL 1, PIT 0

Top 4 – Greg Norton homers (1) on a line drive to left field.
ATL 2, PIT 0

dogsbrekky

February 27th, 2009
2:21 pm

DWW

February 27th, 2009
2:21 pm

B:0 S:0 O:0 – Josh Anderson doubles (1) on a line drive to center fielder Nate McLouth

glorydays

February 27th, 2009
2:21 pm

How do you get to the play by play on MLB.com?

ease19

February 27th, 2009
2:22 pm

ShipHockey – someone earlier called KC a B……

DWW

February 27th, 2009
2:22 pm

B:0 S:0 O:1 – Omar Infante grounds out, shortstop Jack Wilson to first baseman Adam LaRoche.

eltrompoBRAVESfan

February 27th, 2009
2:23 pm

That a boy Anderson! Good to see him hitting well now.

TheManMike

February 27th, 2009
2:23 pm

TogaParty-
If Kenshin were Vietnamese, i would not call him K-san…..i must be overlooking something here, but i thought he was Japanese……..

am i missing something? If i am, i will totally never call him that again….

Also – Unless your actually wearing or having a toga party – or are Greek, i think its a bit insensitive to the Greeks to have your name as toga Party….so there……

that was a joke by the way……Jesus H

BravesFan

February 27th, 2009
2:23 pm

Chipper Jones homers (1) on a fly ball to center field. Garret Anderson scores.

MFin04

February 27th, 2009
2:23 pm

i posted the link above…go there

eltrompoBRAVESfan

February 27th, 2009
2:23 pm

HOMER FOR CHIPPER

DWW

February 27th, 2009
2:23 pm

B:2 S:2 O:1 – Chipper Jones homers (1) on a fly ball to center field. Josh Anderson scores.

——————————————————————————–

B:0 S:0 O:1 – Brian McCann singles on a line drive to left fielder Jeff Salazar.

getnathan

February 27th, 2009
2:23 pm

Carlyle will win the long relief role over Jorge Campillo

Kawakami looking good according to DOB. Seems like he’s a pitcher who relies heavily on location, but seems to know how to pitch.

BravesFan

February 27th, 2009
2:23 pm

B:0 S:0 O:1 – Brian McCann singles on a line drive to left fielder Jeff Salazar.

Lil' Timmy

February 27th, 2009
2:23 pm

Yeah, I’m really offended by all the adult language on this blog. I mean, WTF you adult languagers.

cvbraves

February 27th, 2009
2:24 pm

Chipper Homes, 4-0

MFin04

February 27th, 2009
2:24 pm

Josh Anderson doubled…chipper homered….4-0 Bravos

MFin04

February 27th, 2009
2:25 pm

dogsbrekky

February 27th, 2009
2:25 pm

Is my mum pitching ?

Did Garret or Josh double ??

KC

February 27th, 2009
2:25 pm

So that’s GARRET (not Josh) Anderson in Center?? Wow. Well, that sort of makes sense. Since the Braves will only carry 4 outfielders, Garret is probably your backup Center-fielder. BC probably wants to get a look at him there.

The fact that he’s hitting leadoff might be an indication, not of where he will hit, but where the starting Center-fielder will bat in this lineup.

TN Jeff

February 27th, 2009
2:26 pm

Frenchy choke time

David O'Brien

February 27th, 2009
2:26 pm

While I was away, Norton and Chipper both went deep. Us two Americans waited for a crowd of 30 — yes, 30 — Japanese media to finish interviewing and shooting photos of Kawakami.

He felt good, but said his cutter still needs work and he’s not broken out his forktball yet. Mostly fastballs today, and a few good curves and cutters.

David O'Brien

February 27th, 2009
2:26 pm

Chipper’s was a two-run homer to score J. Anderson, who doubled.

KC

February 27th, 2009
2:26 pm

MFin04, play-by-play says Garret, not Josh.

Colbrave

February 27th, 2009
2:27 pm

BravesFan says Garret Anderson scores and DWW says Josh Anderson scores…. wich one is it????

DWW

February 27th, 2009
2:27 pm

eltrompoBRAVESfan

February 27th, 2009
2:27 pm

I’m looking forward to that forkball! Don’t think I’ve ever seen one.

KC

February 27th, 2009
2:28 pm

DOB, thanks for clearing up the Garrett/Josh thing.

DWW

February 27th, 2009
2:28 pm

DOB is at the game and he says josh, so i’m taking his word.

ncscoots

February 27th, 2009
2:28 pm

Ship, don’t believe I’ll actually point it out, LOL. Too much like taking a Hooters girl home to meet your mama.

There was nothing I would consider in terribly poor taste. However, there doesn’t seem to be ANY kind of filter on this new format, and it’s easy to get carried away in the heat of a moment. And, for the record, I’ve been guilty of some (disguised) blue language on here myself. I doubt that changing a few consonants or adding some asterisks actually disguises the intent or puzzles anyone over 12, but, still…

David O'Brien

February 27th, 2009
2:29 pm

No, NOT Garret Anderson. Who said it was Garret, and why? He’s not here, will make his debut early to middle of next week, probably. It’s Josh Anderson.

KC

February 27th, 2009
2:29 pm

eltrompoBRAVESfan, Roger Clemens had a Fork-ball

i cant take it anymore

February 27th, 2009
2:29 pm

better call in the brain surgeons to figure out who is in center

js

February 27th, 2009
2:29 pm

it’s josh guys

KC

February 27th, 2009
2:29 pm

DOB, MLB.com’s play-by-play said Garret, not Josh.

js

February 27th, 2009
2:30 pm

garret isn’t supposed to play till next week

yeah, im here

February 27th, 2009
2:30 pm

When is Garrett Anderson going to make his Atlana debut?

Leah

February 27th, 2009
2:30 pm

It says Garret Anderson on the MLB Boxscore as well.

i cant take it anymore

February 27th, 2009
2:31 pm

looks like David cleared it up. never mind

DWW

February 27th, 2009
2:31 pm

DOB
For some reason the mlb.com play by play is reading Garret instead of Josh.

ShipHockey7

February 27th, 2009
2:31 pm

ah my bad ease, thanks for clearin that up

yeah, im here

February 27th, 2009
2:31 pm

Any updates on Frenchy?

PWHjort

February 27th, 2009
2:32 pm

“DOB, MLB.com’s play-by-play said Garret, not Josh.”

DOB is at the game, I think he can tell the difference between a 37 year old black guy and a 25 year old white guy.

BravesFan

February 27th, 2009
2:32 pm

frenchy walks

Nick Nunziata

February 27th, 2009
2:32 pm

Francoeur, two walks. Is he ok?

Il Cattivo

February 27th, 2009
2:32 pm

Roger Clemens had a Fork-ball – KC

I thought he was slimeball with a forked tongue….

PWHjort

February 27th, 2009
2:33 pm

WOW, 2 BB in 1 game? Incredible.

MFin04

February 27th, 2009
2:33 pm

Garrett Anderson isnt playing though…so when it says…Garrett in means Josh.

Buffalo NY Braves Fan

February 27th, 2009
2:33 pm

DOB,

“going to talk to Kawakami” is a great cover for “chasing around the hooters girls”

But we do appreciate you keeping us abreast (get it… hooters humor there) of the goings on in the game.

DWW

February 27th, 2009
2:33 pm

B:4 S:0 O:1 – Jeff Francoeur walks. Brian McCann to 2nd.

Does anyone want me to keep doing this? BravesFan are you taking over? Either way just didnt want to double post everything.

yeah, im here

February 27th, 2009
2:33 pm

two walks for Frency? I AM AMAZED!!!!!

eltrompoBRAVESfan

February 27th, 2009
2:33 pm

KC- I’ve heard of it, I just don’t think I’ve ever seen one and known that it was a forkball. Whats the trajectory of one?

MFin04

February 27th, 2009
2:33 pm

Francoeur walking twice in a game? Someone needs to pay his hitting instructor some serious cash.

Nick Nunziata

February 27th, 2009
2:33 pm

Diaz, 2 GIDP. Maybe he should lean back more.

David O'Brien

February 27th, 2009
2:33 pm

eltrompo: you saw Smoltz’s split, you don’t need to see a forkball. You’ll never see one nastier than Smoltz’s split when he used to dominate with that thing, when his arm could handle it.

dogsbrekky

February 27th, 2009
2:33 pm

Frenchy walked… Frenchy walked… Frenchy walked

not quite Skip but you get the excitement

Bravely going forward

February 27th, 2009
2:33 pm

frenchy has walked twice?? not too bad…

AL

February 27th, 2009
2:34 pm

St. Louis still ahead 4-3 in the Bottom of the 4th. Met’s had them loaded with 1 out in the 3rd but St. Louis got out of it.

yeah, im here

February 27th, 2009
2:34 pm

DWW continue with Play by play, im sitting in class enjoying the updates, thanks

MFin04

February 27th, 2009
2:35 pm

Braves just replaced their whole line-up with back-ups too many to type

David O'Brien

February 27th, 2009
2:35 pm

PWHjort: Not to mention the fact that Garrett’s about 6-feet-4 (he’s every bit as tall as Chipper and Francoeur), and Josh Anderson is not.

DWW

February 27th, 2009
2:35 pm

B:0 S:0 O:3 – Matt Diaz grounds into double play, shortstop Jack Wilson to second baseman Freddy Sanchez to first baseman Adam LaRoche. Jeff Francoeur out at 2nd.

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Bottom Half
B:0 S:0 O:0 – Defensive Substitution: Gregor Blanco replaces center fielder Garret Anderson, batting 1st, playing center field.

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B:0 S:0 O:0 – Defensive Substitution: Brandon Hicks replaces shortstop Omar Infante, batting 2nd, playing shortstop.

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B:0 S:0 O:0 – Defensive Substitution: Brooks Conrad replaces third baseman Chipper Jones, batting 3rd, playing second base.

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B:0 S:0 O:0 – Defensive Substitution: Alvin Colina replaces catcher Brian McCann, batting 4th, playing catcher.

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B:0 S:0 O:0 – Defensive Substitution: Jason Heyward replaces right fielder Jeff Francoeur, batting 5th, playing right field.

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B:0 S:0 O:0 – Defensive Substitution: Brandon Jones replaces left fielder Matt Diaz, batting 6th, playing left field.

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B:0 S:0 O:0 – Defensive switch from second base to third base for Diory Hernandez.

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B:0 S:0 O:0 – Pitcher Change: Mariano Gomez replaces Buddy Carlyle.

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B:0 S:0 O:1 – Pedro Alvarez grounds out to first baseman Frederick Freeman.

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B:0 S:3 O:2 – Jose Tabata strikes out swinging.

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B:0 S:3 O:3 – Ramon Vazquez called out on strikes.

eltrompoBRAVESfan

February 27th, 2009
2:35 pm

Good inning for Gomez! Two K’s and a groundout

STRETCH

February 27th, 2009
2:35 pm

I looked all over for some highlights of yesterdays game and found only ESPN’s version which highlights Roy Oswalt striking out Chipper twice. But the did mention the Braves coming back to win the game…WTF?!!! ESPN hates the Braves, if that isnt proof, i dont know what is.

getnathan

February 27th, 2009
2:35 pm

Stay guarded about optimism for Kawakami, he did pitch against the Pirates.

MFin04

February 27th, 2009
2:36 pm

B:0 S:0 O:0 – Defensive Substitution: Gregor Blanco replaces center fielder Garret Anderson, batting 1st, playing center field.
B:0 S:0 O:0 – Defensive Substitution: Brandon Hicks replaces shortstop Omar Infante, batting 2nd, playing shortstop.
B:0 S:0 O:0 – Defensive Substitution: Brooks Conrad replaces third baseman Chipper Jones, batting 3rd, playing second base.
B:0 S:0 O:0 – Defensive Substitution: Alvin Colina replaces catcher Brian McCann, batting 4th, playing catcher.
B:0 S:0 O:0 – Defensive Substitution: Jason Heyward replaces right fielder Jeff Francoeur, batting 5th, playing right field.
B:0 S:0 O:0 – Defensive Substitution: Brandon Jones replaces left fielder Matt Diaz, batting 6th, playing left field.
B:0 S:0 O:0 – Defensive switch from second base to third base for Diory Hernandez.
B:0 S:0 O:0 – Pitcher Change: Mariano Gomez replaces Buddy Carlyle.

getnathan

February 27th, 2009
2:36 pm

Encouraging that he seemed to have pitched very well nonetheless

PWHjort

February 27th, 2009
2:37 pm

KC- I’ve heard of it, I just don’t think I’ve ever seen one and known that it was a forkball. Whats the trajectory of one?

A forkball is like a splitter, but not as much velocity and more movement. You basically jam the ball as far as you can between your index and middle finger and throw it with your thumb on the bottom. If thrown perfectly it has a little spin and dances sort of like a knuckleball but drops right before it gets to the plate. It’s a standard pitch in a Japanese Starting Pitchers’ repertoire.

Bravely going forward

February 27th, 2009
2:37 pm

DOB: who is Mariano Gomez?

eltrompoBRAVESfan

February 27th, 2009
2:37 pm

DOB: Thanks for the explanation on the forkball!

getnathan

February 27th, 2009
2:37 pm

STRETCH I was disappointed with that highlight, too. NOt one mention of Tommy Hanson. Isn’t he supposed to be one of the top 5 prospects in the country?

DWW

February 27th, 2009
2:37 pm

B:0 S:0 O:1 – Pedro Alvarez grounds out to first baseman Frederick Freeman.

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B:0 S:3 O:2 – Jose Tabata strikes out swinging.

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B:0 S:3 O:3 – Ramon Vazquez called out on strikes

KC

February 27th, 2009
2:37 pm

eltrompoBRAVESfan, It is essentially a split-finger fastball. Here is a video of a forkball being delivered… ironically by a Japanese pitcher. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Vu9tg_46M8

MFin04

February 27th, 2009
2:38 pm

Is there a possibility of Garrett Anderson playing in Center this year? What about Francoeur?

joh hoar

February 27th, 2009
2:38 pm

dogsbrekky- I liked that -Frenchy walked etc.

David O'Brien

February 27th, 2009
2:38 pm

Kris Medlen making his debut now

Andy K.

February 27th, 2009
2:38 pm

BravelyGomez is a starter/reliever, and a non-roster invitee, spen last year with the Minnesota Twins AAA Rochester RedWings. Saw him a few times. Decent stuff, prolly end up at Gwinnett.

Il Cattivo

February 27th, 2009
2:39 pm

BravesFan

February 27th, 2009
2:40 pm

DWW I will let you keep doing it.

PWHjort

February 27th, 2009
2:40 pm

What’s the story with this Brooks Conrad fellow. I’ve seen him in a couple of games but I know nothing about him other than he’s a) a switch-hitting 2nd baseman and b) he was signed as a minor-league free agent by Oakland for 2008 and Atlanta for 2009 after failing to crack the Astros’ big club. Who is he competing with for what playing time at what position in what role?

DWW

February 27th, 2009
2:41 pm

B:0 S:0 O:1 – Frederick Freeman grounds out, second baseman Shelby Ford to first baseman Garrett Jones.

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B:0 S:0 O:2 – Greg Norton flies out to left fielder Jeff Salazar.

McFann :Ô:

February 27th, 2009
2:41 pm

He got a hit? Whoo-hoo! Sorry, I walked away for a bit…

So he could head to that thing with a .500 BA, and a .667 OBP. Dude…

Wish someone woulda tried stealing off him…wanna know how that D is working out!

dogsbrekky

February 27th, 2009
2:41 pm

joh hoar – we try our best, sadly my g/f’s 92 year old dad is being rushed to the hospital

GL all

MFin04

February 27th, 2009
2:41 pm

Hanson looked good…he came in with the heart of the Astros order…walked.. Lee which was debatable…then hit Tejada…to get back for Escobar getting hit…then pitched pretty well…getting out of the jam…only giving up two runs. He looks scary on the mound. He is so big…I’m sure overwhelming for hitters…not to mention the 95-98mph fastball. I think he will be up with the Braves…sometime in the near future. They really dont need him starting off. Also…James Parr looked really good as well. Not sure if there is roster spot…but he could be a good 4th/5th starter in the future.

DWW

February 27th, 2009
2:42 pm

B:0 S:0 O:3 – Diory Hernandez grounds out, third baseman Neil Walker to first baseman Garrett Jones.

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Bottom Half
B:0 S:0 O:0 – Defensive Substitution: Martin Prado replaces first baseman Frederick Freeman, batting 7th, playing first base.

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B:0 S:0 O:0 – Pitcher Change: Kris Medlen replaces Mariano Gomez.

Shane

February 27th, 2009
2:43 pm

Did anyone else see Heyward for the first time yesterday. Man what a BEAST !!!! HE was flyind around the bases on a double as well. The kid is going to be SPECIAL !!!

KC

February 27th, 2009
2:43 pm

BTW, anyone who hasn’t seen this Kawakami video… it’s worth a look: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UU1wMH6lXHQ

BravesFaninPhilly

February 27th, 2009
2:44 pm

MF, I dont think that it would be an ideal defensive situation to have G. Anderson or Frenchy in center. Neither really have the range necessary. I’m sure if J. Anderson, Infante, and Prado all had been used, then it could possibly happen, but it’s probably safe to say that the Braves wouldn’t want either of them out in center. Heck, you might even want Diaz there before Frency or Garrett.

Seymour1948

February 27th, 2009
2:44 pm

DOB-

What do you think of Brandon Hicks?

john hoar

February 27th, 2009
2:44 pm

Dogbrekky- hope your girlfriends father does OK.

kyle2355

February 27th, 2009
2:45 pm

espn is for a national audience there highlights of spring training games are gonna show the most popular players on each team. The scores dont mean anything and there not gonna show prospects and bench players making a comeback in a game that doesn’t count. The highlights are like this for every spring training game don’t take it the wrong way.

cvbraves

February 27th, 2009
2:46 pm

Gomez was 5-2 at Rochester, 2.76 era, 65.1 innings pitcher, 45 SO, 22BB

cvbraves

February 27th, 2009
2:48 pm

Conrad hit .243 at Sacramento, 28 HR, 91 RBI, 127 SO

Gator73082

February 27th, 2009
2:48 pm

I live in Rochester. I can’t recall seeing or hearing about Gomez. Its not like I pay attention though, unless the AAA Braves are in town!

TheAntiMe

February 27th, 2009
2:49 pm

K.K. and Buddy were lights out. I hear that those cigars with punch down in the land of the Seminoles can make you start seeing things like Mickey Mouse and fairy tale characters dancing and prancing around, as well. You haven’t been seeing anything along those lines, have you, DOB? :P

PWHjort

February 27th, 2009
2:49 pm

I love that Kawakami video. There used to be another one on NPB tracker that was good too.

David O'Brien

February 27th, 2009
2:51 pm

Medlen has given up two walks and bases are loaded with two outs (there was also an E5 on Diory

Efrim

February 27th, 2009
2:51 pm

Wow someone actually thought GA was going to play CF? Wow. Not sure what to say about that.

PWHjort

February 27th, 2009
2:54 pm

DOB, has a press conference been held to announce the signing of Garret Anderson? Also, any word on the pre-arbs?

DWW

February 27th, 2009
2:55 pm

B:4 S:0 O:0 – Jeff Salazar walks.

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B:0 S:3 O:1 – Andrew McCutchen strikes out swinging.

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B:0 S:3 O:2 – Anderson Machado called out on strikes.

David O'Brien

February 27th, 2009
2:55 pm

Got a flyout to center to get out of the inning unscathed….

Seymour: Hicks is outstanding defensively; he could play SS in the majors right now. He’s also got very good power. Near as I can tell, his only problem is he strikes out a lot. A whole lot.

KC

February 27th, 2009
2:55 pm

Efrim, MLB.com was reporting that it was Garrett, not Josh, in Center. That’s why some folks here thought that.

Andy

February 27th, 2009
2:56 pm

That’s funny that MLB said it was Garrett. ESPN said Brady Anderson was in center and CBSportsline said it was Marlon Anderson. SI.com said that Louie Anderson was in center. I don’t know who to believe.

eltrompoBRAVESfan

February 27th, 2009
2:56 pm

I agree PWH-great video; I’m even more excited (if that’s possible).

getnathan

February 27th, 2009
2:57 pm

Efrim – JA is playing CF, I thought. GA is playing LF they say in a platoon with MD. We hope JS is going to play CF.

DWW

February 27th, 2009
2:57 pm

B:0 S:0 O:2 – Shelby Ford reaches on throwing error by third baseman Diory Hernandez. Jeff Salazar to 2nd.

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B:4 S:0 O:2 – Jason Jaramillo walks. Jeff Salazar to 3rd. Shelby Ford to 2nd.

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B:0 S:0 O:3 – Garrett Jones flies out to center fielder Gregor Blanco

MFin04

February 27th, 2009
2:57 pm

Medlen actually pitched pretty well some K’s and some clutch pitching in a jam.

Buffalo NY Braves Fan

February 27th, 2009
2:58 pm

Andy,

If that tub of good Louie Anderson is ever playing CF for ANYONE I’ll stop watching baseball, or call their GM and try out for a job. Louie Anderson….. decent comedian, NOT a CF option lol

ease19

February 27th, 2009
2:58 pm

DOB

Can Hicks play 3rd?

MFin04

February 27th, 2009
2:58 pm

Schafer Anderson and Blanco just don’t impress me as being viable options in center. Whoever is out there…is most likely going to hit 8th in the lineup because they just do not get on base enough to bat first.

MGL

February 27th, 2009
2:59 pm

And DOB heard it was Pamela Anderson in CF, that’s why he was missing for a while.

cityofdecatur

February 27th, 2009
2:59 pm

gator73082 go get an Abbott’s custard (one at the beach) for me any flavor.
and yesterday ya’ll talking Jennie Cream Ale. Said there flashbacks!!!

DWW

February 27th, 2009
2:59 pm

B:0 S:0 O:0 – Pitcher Change: Donald Veal replaces David Davidson.

Ritchie from Scotland

February 27th, 2009
3:00 pm

MFin04 – Doesn’t Anderson’s speed mean much to you? We were seriously lacking in stolen bases in 08 so having him lead off, swipe second and get driven in by Johnson/Chipper/G.Anderson/McCann seems like a good plan to me.

MFin04

February 27th, 2009
3:00 pm

Heyward looks like he is going to be a beast. The kid has some power and incredible speed. He looks like Adam Dunn with speed…which is crazy to imagine.

DWW

February 27th, 2009
3:00 pm

:0 S:0 O:1 – Gregor Blanco grounds out, first baseman Garrett Jones to pitcher Donald Veal.

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B:0 S:3 O:2 – Brandon Hicks called out on strikes.

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B:0 S:0 O:3 – Brooks Conrad grounds out, third baseman Neil Walker to first baseman Garrett Jones.

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Bottom Half
B:0 S:0 O:0 – Pitcher Change: Todd Redmond replaces Kris Medlen

cphizzle

February 27th, 2009
3:01 pm

yep that explains daves MIA it was pamela anderson in cf MGL

MFin04

February 27th, 2009
3:01 pm

Problem was that Anderson did not get on base a lot (i.e. walks). I do like his speed…but you cant use speed unless you are getting on base consistently with hits, walks, etc. Which he didnt seem to do.

David O'Brien

February 27th, 2009
3:02 pm

young Todd Redmond pitching the seventh for the Bravos, gives up a leadoff single to right

eltrompoBRAVESfan

February 27th, 2009
3:02 pm

Todd Redmond?

getnathan

February 27th, 2009
3:03 pm

Redmond acquired in the Tyler Yates deal

Gator73082

February 27th, 2009
3:03 pm

cityofdecatur – OK I’ll add that to my list of things to do….the one that doesn’t exist! I’ll also make sure to ship it to you via Priority Express and you better hope it doesn’t melt enroute!

There’s also another Abbott’s literally right around the corner from my house just a few miles down from the beach. You must be simmering with jealousy! I’m not much of a custard guy.. living in a cold weather place and all….

eltrompoBRAVESfan

February 27th, 2009
3:03 pm

David O'Brien

February 27th, 2009
3:04 pm

Then gives up a walk, two on with none out, Braves still up 4–0.

I gotta get going on writing my story, so play-by-play will be sketchy from here out. Besides, lot of minor leaguers in for both teams now

PWHjort

February 27th, 2009
3:04 pm

Redmond and Tommy Hanson tore up the southern league last year at AA Mississippi.

glorydays

February 27th, 2009
3:04 pm

http://m.mlb.com/scores/20090227 This should work as an email address you can save to get to this site in the future.

Magnus Pym

February 27th, 2009
3:06 pm

Tyler Yates – oh oh nightmares tonight

Is young Heyward playing today

MFin04

February 27th, 2009
3:06 pm

First player cut anyone….anyone….Todd Redmond…..(I was hoping Blaine Homerun Boyer, but it wont happen)

glorydays

February 27th, 2009
3:07 pm

Just need to change the date

MFin04

February 27th, 2009
3:07 pm

you actually should save this site….http://m.mlb.com/scores/ it will update to the day…you click on

dude

February 27th, 2009
3:08 pm

afternoon – one-two word answer;? how’d Kamakazi do??????

David O'Brien

February 27th, 2009
3:08 pm

Redmond got out of it with double play and a strikeout. Still a three-hit shutout going for Braves staff.

Robert

February 27th, 2009
3:08 pm

I really like Boyer

cvbraves

February 27th, 2009
3:09 pm

Kawakami…Great…29 pitches, 19 strikes, one hit, no runs

MFin04

February 27th, 2009
3:09 pm

that a boy…double play.

eltrompoBRAVESfan

February 27th, 2009
3:10 pm

Now all I have to do is remind myself that we’re playing the Pirates, hence the three hit shutout! Just kidding, I’m glad they are pitching well today!

eltrompoBRAVESfan

February 27th, 2009
3:10 pm

And that one hit against Kawa was a cheap one, weak blooper.

Drew

February 27th, 2009
3:11 pm

Magnus Pym

February 27th, 2009
3:11 pm

saw this ….. kawakamiskamikazes.blogspot.com

braves4ever

February 27th, 2009
3:11 pm

I think the Pirates have hitting troubles of their own, how many times today have they had chances to break it open.whew
I would like to think our Pin is strong,but you can’t load up the bases this many times a game and get out of always.

David O'Brien

February 27th, 2009
3:12 pm

Heyward just got his first knock, a hard single through the right side after a Colina leadoff double in eighth. Runners on the corners with none out for B. Jones.

cityofdecatur

February 27th, 2009
3:12 pm

have not had an abbotts custard since 96. Two first stops in rochester visit the cemetery where my parents are buried and straight on down lake avenue to the beach. (last time there it was too polluted to go in) to get a chocolate custard. you ain’t telling me they are not there anymore. as far as the shipping – dry ice and a refrig or frozen carrier. ha ha but tell me if your serious about the one at the lake no joke!

AL

February 27th, 2009
3:13 pm

St. Louis picks up another run in the top of the 7th. 5-3 St. Louis now.

MFin04

February 27th, 2009
3:13 pm

if you like Boyer you obviously didnt watch all the games last year…he was like an anti-closer…you bring him in to lose games…reminded me of Jorge Sosa….boy those were harsh times

David O'Brien

February 27th, 2009
3:13 pm

B Jones 3-6 FC to drive in a run.

mbatl

February 27th, 2009
3:14 pm

“Now all I have to do is remind myself that we’re playing the Pirates, hence the three hit shutout! ” – eltrompo

Hey, the bucco’s pretty much beat the crap out of the Braves last year, winning 5 of 7.

Bullpen 2009: Gonzo, Soriano, Moylan, Bennett, Boyer, Carlyle and Logan.

eltrompoBRAVESfan

February 27th, 2009
3:14 pm

Steal Second Heyward!

getnathan

February 27th, 2009
3:15 pm

You guys are this excited about spring training. I can’t wait till the season starts.

braves4ever

February 27th, 2009
3:15 pm

MFin04 , that was good

getnathan

February 27th, 2009
3:15 pm

mbatl – where do you think Campillo fits in?

eltrompoBRAVESfan

February 27th, 2009
3:16 pm

mbtal- I forgot about that, especially that first series at the beginning of the year where they decimated us. Good point!

Gator73082

February 27th, 2009
3:16 pm

I never said anything about the one at the lake. Its still there! I’m just not a regular visitor, plus if I wanted a bowl of custard, I’d just go to the one around the corner from my house.. a smaller one. I’m more of a hot-food type of guy… like our infamous Garbage Plate! Those are the best.. and the worst health-wise!

dude

February 27th, 2009
3:18 pm

Thanks. Any HR’s today?

PWHjort

February 27th, 2009
3:18 pm

I agree with the bullpen except I think Campillo will probably trump Carlyle for the long-relief role. Campillo can effectively start, Carlyle can’t. Campillo’s ability to play the swing-man role probably gives him the edge.

Andrew

February 27th, 2009
3:18 pm

DOB,do you think we found a hidden gem in Kawakami?

cityofdecatur

February 27th, 2009
3:19 pm

thanks DOB for the updates today just enough time to keep checking the chicken (got the smoker goin’ today) and read the blog. wife plans my smoker time with inclement weather. todays treat 15lbs of wings drumsticks and thighs. with apple wood smoke and a white aladamnbama BBQ sauce. last time came out good so we 4x the recipe. wife would rather have a tornado warning says something that cooking dangerously tastes better. but thats anyother story

TheAntiMe

February 27th, 2009
3:19 pm

Bravos pitching has racked-up 9 strikeouts so far. Not too shabby.

mbatl

February 27th, 2009
3:20 pm

getnathan, I’m not a big fan of his. Junk, junk, junk. I’d put him at AAA as an emergency starter. Of course, I’m not saying my bullpen predictions are “gospel.” Campillo and Acosta might be there, but I hate to think of who they’ll replace.

Buffalo NY Braves Fan

February 27th, 2009
3:20 pm

cityofdecatur,

I’ll be sure to send you some of our snow. We’re due for a fresh batch this weekend.

eltrompoBRAVESfan

February 27th, 2009
3:20 pm

PWH- I agree with you favoring Campillo over Carlyle. You can’t ignore the a bit above average season for Campillo last season. I think bullpen duty will lower pressure for him.
dude- Chipper blasted a two-run homer earlier, then Norton

AL

February 27th, 2009
3:20 pm

dude,

Norton – solo shot
Chipper – 2 run shot

cvbraves

February 27th, 2009
3:21 pm

Two homers, Norton and Chipper

braves4ever

February 27th, 2009
3:21 pm

that was some weird karma there ,did you all get the page-text-old-style on your refresh? or was it just my puter?

MFin04

February 27th, 2009
3:21 pm

I think Campillo will be good…he was pitching too often last year…and got tired towards the end. I think with other starters getting the bulk of the games/innings he will be a solid #4/5 starter

PWHjort

February 27th, 2009
3:21 pm

“DOB,do you think we found a hidden gem in Kawakami?”

He was never really hidden. He won the ROY, Cy Young, and MVP in Japan and was coveted by a few teams before he chose to sign with the Braves.

MFin04

February 27th, 2009
3:23 pm

Anyone excited about Glavine? Or do you think he is done? I dont mind the risk…just dont think he is as good as Smoltzie….at their ages.

DWW

February 27th, 2009
3:23 pm

B:0 S:0 O:2 – Martin Prado grounds into a force out, shortstop Anderson Machado to second baseman Shelby Ford. Brandon Jones out at 2nd. Martin Prado to 1st.

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B:0 S:0 O:3 – Greg Norton grounds out to first baseman Garrett Jones.

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Bottom Half
B:0 S:0 O:0 – Pitcher Change: Anthony Lerew replaces Todd Redmond

eltrompoBRAVESfan

February 27th, 2009
3:23 pm

Hopefully Kawa will prove the guys over at Baseball Prospectus that he can be effective here in the U.S.

HeywardTheFuture

February 27th, 2009
3:23 pm

I don’t understand the hatred toward Manny Acosta, the dude is a beast. If he isn’t in our pen to start the year something is wrong.

MFin04

February 27th, 2009
3:24 pm

Japan won the WBC…but…is the Japanese league…at all comparable to MLB?

eltrompoBRAVESfan

February 27th, 2009
3:25 pm

Well Heyward, Acosta pitched well yesterday, didn’t he?

cvbraves

February 27th, 2009
3:26 pm

Acosta didn’t pitch yesterday

eltrompoBRAVESfan

February 27th, 2009
3:26 pm

Not to mention Acosta was great in the final stretch!

PWHjort

February 27th, 2009
3:26 pm

Acosta belongs in a big league bullpen, but with Soriano, Gonzalez, and Moylan locks and 1 spot reserved for a LOOGY (early pick: Boone Logan), I don’t see Acosta making the team. Campillo, Bennett, Carlyle, Acosta, Vlad Nunez, Boyer, Marek, and Stockman all competing for the final 3 spots, I just don’t see it.

cityofdecatur

February 27th, 2009
3:27 pm

buffalo as a kid i’d shovel any driveway in irondequoit for 2 dollars. left the snow in 73 and only go back once every 10 years or so. red clay and tornado warning traded for the snow. ihs 69 go indians ohsht they done gone pc they are now goldn eagles or something. KEEP THE SNOW SEND THE CUSTARD!

mbatl

February 27th, 2009
3:27 pm

“I don’t understand the hatred toward Manny Acosta, the dude is a beast. If he isn’t in our pen to start the year something is wrong.” – HeywardTheFuture

I certainly don’t hate him. He throws hard. Too many walks, too many homers, and too few strikeouts are my problems with him. He’s got options. I just think Carlyle and Bennett are better than him at this point in their careers.

yeah, im here

February 27th, 2009
3:27 pm

when is steve avery reporting to camp?

eltrompoBRAVESfan

February 27th, 2009
3:27 pm

Sorry, I believe he pitched Wednesday against the Tigers

HeywardTheFuture

February 27th, 2009
3:27 pm

one long relief man Bennett or Carlyle no need in having both, along with Boyer and Acosta seems pretty simple to me.

PWHjort

February 27th, 2009
3:27 pm

There are differences in MLB and NPB. 6 man rotation, different baseball size, quality of hitters is lower. However, Kuroda and Dice-k made seemless transitions into the bigs, there’s no reason Kawakami can’t.

eltrompoBRAVESfan

February 27th, 2009
3:28 pm

Let’s just say I don’t envy those who make the final cuts when it comes to those staying in the bullpen.

David O'Brien

February 27th, 2009
3:28 pm

Lerew is pitching the eighth, and he got two outs before giving up consecutive hits and a walk to load the bases for Pedro Alvarez, who’s batting now.

PWHjort

February 27th, 2009
3:29 pm

Bennett isn’t a long man anymore, he’s got the stuff to be setting up a closer. He’s mid-relief for all practical purposes. That leaves Campillo and Carlyle competing for the LR role.

David O'Brien

February 27th, 2009
3:29 pm

Now he throws a wild pitch to bring in a run, ending the shutout.

Andrew

February 27th, 2009
3:30 pm

lerew’s gettin cut

AL

February 27th, 2009
3:32 pm

“Bennett isn’t a long man anymore, he’s got the stuff to be setting up a closer. ”

Not sure about that one. Even if he does, his stuff isn’t better then Moylan and Soriano when they are healthy. If they are they will be the setup men.

18 Wheels of Love

February 27th, 2009
3:32 pm

“Cut me, Mick, cut me!”

cphizzle

February 27th, 2009
3:33 pm

heyward the future are you under the influence of something? the only pen acosta belongs in is the pig pen! please back that point up with the blazing acosta stats that we all know he has! LOL

PWHjort

February 27th, 2009
3:34 pm

I didn’t say he would be a set-up man in our bullpen, I’m just saying he has the stuff to be a set-up man. The Braves would get more mileage out of him if they use him for 1 inning at a time in meaningful games. Unlike Carlyle, whose best role is in long relief when the starter boots.

PWHjort

February 27th, 2009
3:35 pm

A Mets pitcher just balked in a run.

DWW

February 27th, 2009
3:35 pm

B:0 S:0 O:1 – Andrew McCutchen flies out to left fielder Brandon Jones.

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B:0 S:3 O:2 – Anderson Machado strikes out swinging.

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B:0 S:0 O:2 – Shelby Ford singles on a line drive to center fielder Gregor Blanco.

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B:0 S:0 O:2 – Jason Jaramillo singles on a line drive to left fielder Brandon Jones. Shelby Ford to 2nd.

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B:4 S:0 O:2 – Garrett Jones walks. Shelby Ford to 3rd. Jason Jaramillo to 2nd.

DWW

February 27th, 2009
3:37 pm

B:1 S:0 O:2 – With Pedro Alvarez batting, wild pitch by Anthony Lerew, Shelby Ford scores. Jason Jaramillo to 3rd. Garrett Jones to 2nd

braves4ever

February 27th, 2009
3:37 pm

I said earlier you CAN’T load up da bases this much and not pay

StingerSplash

February 27th, 2009
3:37 pm

Mets vs. Cards/LaRussa … Can they both lose? (got no love for LaRussa. He’s a t-word).
DOB, glad to see you survived the KK gaggle with the Japanese press corps. For a minute, thought you might have been abducted by white tank-topped, orange-shorted mob roaming below the press box.
And what’s the plan for Lerew? Is he back 100 percent or some other percent at this point? I figure he’s not a top option for the Braves now and may not even be in the long-range plans. Just curious to how far along he is back from the injury.

Buffalo NY Braves Fan

February 27th, 2009
3:39 pm

Decatur,

I’ll pack your custard in Rochester snow, how’s that haha.

PWHjort

February 27th, 2009
3:39 pm

The plans for Lerew probably include: A) get him healthy and use him for trade bait, B) throw him in a package of some sort, or C) let him walk and sign any minor-league deal he wants when his tenure runs out.

MFin04

February 27th, 2009
3:39 pm

I really liked Acosta too…a lot more than Boyer…both throw hard…but it seems they give up a lot of HRS Boyer gave up 10 last year…Acosta gave up 7 the innings make it balance out to about equal

getnathan

February 27th, 2009
3:40 pm

mbatl – I actually think that Carlyle will be the long man, let’s hope we don’t see too much of him (that means the starters will be eating up innings)

Wayne in Utah

February 27th, 2009
3:40 pm

mFin

For the same reason that you state that Campillo got tired last year, the same exact thing happened to Boyer from being overused. Were you watching the games???

Dude was dealing early in the season.

So, Lerew has a bad inning, and now somebody already has him cut.

Give it a couple of days/weeks folks before you cut these guys loose. Heck, with that mentality, we would have already traded Hanson for David DeJesus yesterday.

AL

February 27th, 2009
3:40 pm

St. Louis RBI single to make it 6-3 St. Louis in the top of the 8th.
Then pitcher balks to bring in the 7th run. Line drive base hit up the middle to bring in the 8th run. Now a strikeout to end the inning. St. Louis up 8-3 over the Mets.

I missed the first two innings of this game. Livan Hernandez started and pitched well from what I heard.

MFin04

February 27th, 2009
3:40 pm

How did the inning end…it didnt make any sense?

bravesfan54

February 27th, 2009
3:40 pm

Karl Hungus wrote “pay the b-t-h back”, but used all the letters. Don’t need that on the blog, because all of us, self included, could easily slip into that casual idiom…then it’s the slippery slope thing, and the blog soon becomes a rude, crude, rant!

MFin04

February 27th, 2009
3:41 pm

was the guy trying to steal home?

DWW

February 27th, 2009
3:41 pm

B:0 S:0 O:0 – Pitcher Change: Chris Bootcheck replaces John Grabow.

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B:0 S:0 O:1 – Diory Hernandez grounds out, shortstop Anderson Machado to first baseman Garrett Jones.

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B:0 S:0 O:2 – Gregor Blanco flies out to left fielder Jeff Salazar.

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B:0 S:3 O:3 – Brandon Hicks strikes out swinging.

eltrompoBRAVESfan

February 27th, 2009
3:42 pm

Yeah I didn’t get the play-by-play to end the inning either.

PWHjort

February 27th, 2009
3:42 pm

I think Lerew or the catcher picked off a runner at 3rd. Like you said though, it doesn’t make sense.

cphizzle

February 27th, 2009
3:42 pm

best thing for the pen is to rid itself of both acosta and boyer. how many chances our we gonna give boyer? he has been there forever and never ever proved himself

braves4ever

February 27th, 2009
3:42 pm

With the Mets losing I bet we will not hear from Anders &Pizzoro till late

Wayne in Utah

February 27th, 2009
3:43 pm

Some of you folks don’t get the grasp that this is spring training. Let’s not get too up or too down on an inning or an AB.

Unless he is dealt, I suspect Boyer will definitely make the team, and I expect under less pressure and less usage, he will surprise a lot of folks this year.

But then again, what do I know??

18 Wheels of Love

February 27th, 2009
3:43 pm

Peterbilt Peterbilt

AL

February 27th, 2009
3:44 pm

PWHjort, I agree as far as 1 inning stints for Bennett and Carlyle being the long releif guy.

MFin04

February 27th, 2009
3:45 pm

Wayne in Utah: None of us really know anything…so…technically you know as much as most, lol

Chop Chop

February 27th, 2009
3:45 pm

Wayne,

Don’t try to kill the OCD buzz, man.

PWHjort

February 27th, 2009
3:45 pm

Mama ran off with a trucker, Mama ran off with a trucker, Mama ran off with a trucker. Peterbilt Peterbilt.

18 Wheels of Love

February 27th, 2009
3:47 pm

Anyone seen the commercial where the kid says “Why he is harsing my dream mellow?”

cphizzle

February 27th, 2009
3:48 pm

somebody tell me how many years boyer has been with the braves and how many of those years he has been productive

getnathan

February 27th, 2009
3:48 pm

So cphizzle, we want Boyer to have a good spring so he can be traded. I think Bennett is better than Boyer right now. Bennett will be the 7th inning guy. Moylan and Soriano will man the 8th, and of Gonzo in the 9th.

18 Wheels of Love

February 27th, 2009
3:49 pm

Old people coughing is the worst.

PWHjort

February 27th, 2009
3:50 pm

Boyer has appeared in 4 seasons with the Braves. An effective half-year in 2005, a lost 2006 and 2007 due to surgeries and rehab, and an effective first half of 2008. I’d go with one year out of one and a half years of being productive.

MFin04

February 27th, 2009
3:51 pm

I dont think Gonzo is going to close for the Braves this year. I realize he is the closer…but he was really in consistent last year. I know this is a long shot…but like Moylan as a closer. His arm angle is so hard to hit…it might work for the 9th inning.

Logan

February 27th, 2009
3:51 pm

Andruw Jones 0/1 and this may come as a surprise. A….K!

Scalp 'Em Braves

February 27th, 2009
3:52 pm

I may have been snoozing up to this point, so sorry to ask a question that may have already been brought up or answered….

Has Soriano pitched in a game yet? Is he over the crud that had him out a couple of weeks ago? I sure hope he can stay healthy this year. With him coming from the right side, and Gonzo from the left, I’ll feel a lot better about our chances to hold a late lead and finish out.

TheAntiMe

February 27th, 2009
3:52 pm

The Cardinals are falling apart in the 8th. Bases are loaded with Mets.

cphizzle

February 27th, 2009
3:53 pm

thank you PWHJort. so can anybody tell me why we are ready to give up on frenchy after one down year when we give boyer 4 bad ones?

DWW

February 27th, 2009
3:53 pm

B:0 S:0 O:0 – Pitcher Change: Kevin Gunderson replaces Anthony Lerew.

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B:4 S:0 O:0 – Jose Tabata walks.

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B:0 S:0 O:0 – Neil Walker doubles (1) on a line drive to center fielder Gregor Blanco. Jose Tabata scores.

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B:0 S:0 O:0 – Offensive Substitution: Pinch hitter Andy Phillips replaces Jeff Salazar.

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B:0 S:0 O:1 – Andy Phillips flies out to right fielder Jason Heyward. Neil Walker to 3rd.

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B:0 S:0 O:2 – Andrew McCutchen pops out to first baseman Martin Prado.

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B:0 S:0 O:3 – Anderson Machado pops out to shortstop Brandon Hicks.
game over

MFin04

February 27th, 2009
3:53 pm

I wish we had signed Andruw…i know it probably wouldnt have been a good idea…i just miss him in Center field. Hope he gets back on track this year..with Texas or whoever.

mbatl

February 27th, 2009
3:54 pm

“Andruw Jones 0/1 and this may come as a surprise. A….K!”

Pretty sure that’s 4 K’s in 4 AB’s for ‘druw.

AL

February 27th, 2009
3:54 pm

Mets pick up a run in the bottom of the 8th. Going to the 9th with St. Louis leading 8-4.

James is Red

February 27th, 2009
3:55 pm

MFin04 – I think Glavine is going to really surprise people this year. I’m totally buying his whole thing about his arm hasn’t felt this good in 6 years. Remember that before his last dreadful month in ‘07, he was having a very good year. 10 – 12 wins.

MFin04

February 27th, 2009
3:55 pm

Andruw had a double in their intra-squad game in one at bat ;) lol

keylargo

February 27th, 2009
3:56 pm

Yeah, Andruw would have been a very keen signing. He struck out again today in his only ab so far. He’s yet to hit the ball this spring.

MFin04

February 27th, 2009
3:56 pm

What are some realistic good numbers for Glavine this year…so low in the rotation?

PWHjort

February 27th, 2009
3:56 pm

“thank you PWHJort. so can anybody tell me why we are ready to give up on frenchy after one down year when we give boyer 4 bad ones?”

He didn’t have 4 bad years. He was sidelined for 2 and pitched well in 30+ innings in 2005 and the first half of 2008. Francoeur, on the other hand, is YET to have a good year. In 3 seasons, his OPS+ has been 87, 102, and 72. He’s allergic to walking and his defense was awful last year. I’m not ready to give up on Francoeur, but that would be the argument. Makes a lot more sense to give up on Francoeur than Boyer.

MFin04

February 27th, 2009
3:57 pm

Anyone see Cody Ross hit that homerun yesterday? And throw a runner out? I was like…that is 1hr 2 rbis and 1 base runner caught stealing more than our back-up catchers last year…lol.

kirkinga

February 27th, 2009
3:57 pm

Always great to see the team get a win, even though it’s just Spring Training. I see the Acosta bashers are out today. No matter. Manny Acosta will be part of the Braves pen. Unless he has a horrible camp, one of the spots in the pen is his. He was overused last season, and got hurt, but he still did really well , especially for his first year and having to play many roles in the pen.

This year, he and Boyer will not have to close games, and will do less set up work with Soriano and Moylan back and healthy.

Manny Acosta could very well be the future closer for the Braves.He has the stuff, he needs to continue to gain confidence in his second full season. He had 3 bad games in June, but except for those games, and that month, he did really well for a rookie not expected to close games.

Looking at his game log from last season, there can be no argument that he doesn’t belong in the Braves pen this season. And to call him, or Boyer, trash is just not supported by the numbers.

ChipperFan

February 27th, 2009
3:58 pm

MFin04,
As my grandpa used to say: You can wish in one hand and crap in the other, and see which gets filled first.

Chop Chop

February 27th, 2009
3:59 pm

Was Andruw on this team last year? We’re keeping track of a guy who hasn’t been a Brave since the Mark Teixeira Song was sweeping Braves Nation?

Interesting.

Logan

February 27th, 2009
3:59 pm

Salty and Elvis Andrus also playing in that Ranger/Cubs game.

cphizzle

February 27th, 2009
3:59 pm

PWHjort,

i would hate to know your definition of good then. francouer has done nothing but produced and been healthy since he got here.

mbatl

February 27th, 2009
4:01 pm

Chop Chop, so you have no interest in what Andruw does, or Smoltz, or Tex, or anyone else that has been and might’ve been Braves? Sorry, I find it pretty interesting to track.

TheAntiMe

February 27th, 2009
4:01 pm

Yay – we won!

Wayne in Utah

February 27th, 2009
4:01 pm

cphizzle and mfin

Boyer started in 2005, pitched in 43 games and had an ERA of 3.11

Boyer was hurt in 2006.

Boyer pitched in only 5 games in ATL in 2007, and had a 3.38 ERA.

Last year, Boyer had an ERA in the low 3’s in April, May and June.

In July, August and September, his ERA was roughly 8 for those 3 months.

Do you understand now why I have some hope for Boyer. Last year was certainly difficult on the staff. Ohman stunk it up late in the year also, as did almost everybody who had been around through the summer. Even Campillo and Jurrjens faded down the stretch.

So, I am not trying to be contradictory, but let’s give Boyer (and some others) a shot to show what they can do under normal circumstances.

Even Francoeur, who was trying to make himself better (but maybe doing a lot of the wrong things) should be cut a little slack. Remember when in 2005 thru 2007 when he was one of the most clutch hitters we had???

He might turn out to be a bust, but let’s don’t send him to his “baseball grave” quite so soon. He might just surprise you.

I think one of Jeff’s biggest problems is that the early hype might have been over stated, or might have put some undue pressure on him to perform. Players handle pressure differently. I just think we need to exercise some patience here, after 3 ST games.

It’s a marathon, not a sprint folks.

Lew

February 27th, 2009
4:02 pm

ChipperFan-Hope Gramps didn’t actually experiment to see if that was true.

Isn’t a Hooter’s Girl in full uniform an oxymoron?

Woogidy

February 27th, 2009
4:03 pm

DOB, You aren’t kidding about Bobby’s patience if he gave his rental car to a couple of asian drivers! JK. Funny story.

PWHjort

February 27th, 2009
4:04 pm

Sir, a career OPS+ of 92 is not producing. Especially when he was a lousy fielder. He’s twice had OBP’s below the Mendoza line of OBP, 300.

Josh H

February 27th, 2009
4:04 pm

MFin04: To comment on some of your posts:

On Schafer, Anderson, and Blanco not getting on base enough. Blanco can get on base…but that’s really all he can do. Anderson’s main issue is that he doesn’t get on base enough. But Schafer? His OBP is .375 for the past two years in the minors, and that includes his bad start at AA. He’ll strike out 100 times a year, but will probably hit 20 homers, steal about 20 bases, get on base a lot and play amazing defense. He is very much a REAL option for center, if he’s ready. Better than signing Andruw. He’s still one of the top prospects in the organization.

On Gonzalez, he converted 14 out of 16 save opportunities after coming back from Tommy John surgery. He did not have his usual 97 mph velocity. Time will tell if he’s healthy again, but he was as close to a sure save as it gets with Pittsburgh. With that said, Moylan is nasty too and was just developing that changeup before he got hurt. I think you save Moylan for those situations when you have to get an out or three with runners on base. Boyer was very dominant early in the season and broke down later on. If I recall right, in the beginning of the year Boyers Opposing Hitter’s Average was close to or under .200. Bullpen is looking to be very strong if everyone is healthy and the starter’s do their jobs.

MFin04

February 27th, 2009
4:04 pm

You know when your bullpen pitches more innings then your starters…you have a problem ;) I dont think it was soo much the bullpens fault last year…as it was not having starters go deep enough in games. I think by having 4/5/6 legit healthy starters this year…our bullpen will be a lot better on a lot more rest.

PWHjort

February 27th, 2009
4:06 pm

Gonzalez’s fastball didn’t top 88 MPH in his outing Thursday and he was completely incapable of locating it

David O'Brien

February 27th, 2009
4:06 pm

Bobby had good things to say about several pitchers — obviouslyl Kawakami, but also big raves for Kris Medlen. Braves officials are real high on that little dude. Seems a good chance we’ll see him up this season, perhaps sooner than later.

Cox also actually praised Lerew, said that ball’s sinking big-time again, said he could “get it going again,” presumably meaning his career moving forward again, now that he’s fully recovered from TJ surgery.

Scalp 'Em Braves

February 27th, 2009
4:08 pm

I’ll take Acosta over Tavarez any day. Glad he is no longer with us.

PWHjort

February 27th, 2009
4:08 pm

“I think one of Jeff’s biggest problems is that the early hype might have been over stated, or might have put some undue pressure on him to perform. Players handle pressure differently. I just think we need to exercise some patience here, after 3 ST games.”

Jeff’s only problem is, and always has been, his complete lack of strike-zone discipline and inability to get on base. Has nothing to do with anything other than his free-swinging mentality.

glove51

February 27th, 2009
4:09 pm

Hate to disagree with DOB (and I am not really in principle), Smoltz truly did have a nasty splitter, but Mike Scott, in the 80’s, for the Astros, was the best I ever saw.

Wayne in Utah

February 27th, 2009
4:09 pm

PWHjort

You can spout off low OPS, low OPS+, and low blood sugar all you want. (whatever the heck some of that means, I don’t know)

Frenchy looked lost last year, for sure.

BUT, if I could have a composite of his first 2.5 years for the next 10-12 years, I would take it. Where in your OPS+ does it talk about being clutch with RISP?

Besides, who you gonna put in right who has a gun like Francoeur? Noodle arm Blanco? Garret (my original team didnt need me) Anderson? Josh (wish I could learn how to steal first base) Anderson?

The only possible player who could supplant Francoeur this spring is Brandon Jones. While I like Brandon’s up side, I just don’t see that happening.

What say ye???

Random

February 27th, 2009
4:09 pm

cphizzle (3:48 pm, p10): “somebody tell me how many years boyer has been with the braves and how many of those years he has been productive”

Two years with Atlanta, one-and-a-half to one-and-two-thirds years productive–

2005: 37.2 IP, 3.11 ERA, 1.30 WHIP, .234/.325/.307 (BA/OBP/SLG against), 1.94 K/BB, 4.06 BB/9, 7.88 K/9

2008: 72.0 IP, 5.88 ERA, 1.36 WHIP, .262/.323/.452 (BA/OBP/SLG against), 2.68 K/BB, 3.13 BB/9, 8.38 K/9

Enough denizens have already pointed out his overuse and consequent tailing off the last two months of last season — I concur.

Boyer’s a keeper, or valuable trade bait. Preferably the former.

Kings of Leon Lett

February 27th, 2009
4:09 pm

DOB or anyone else. What is the status now with Cody Johnson. I had heard he had a bad attitude but he spoke to my son and I for about 5-10 mins last year in Asheville when Rome came to town. Seemed to be a good kid. You could also tell last year that Heyward and Freeman were just better than everyone else at that level. They acted like they were having alot of fun and Freeman was crushing the ball.

MFin04

February 27th, 2009
4:09 pm

Schafer would not bat first though…which would leave us without a lead-off hitter. Anderson best fits the 1 spot with his speed. It is kinda a toss up. Last year coming out of Spring Training though…I loved Blanco he was playing great. So it really is probably between Blanco and Anderson…for speed in Center. Schafer hits too similar to the rest of our line-up.

David O'Brien

February 27th, 2009
4:10 pm

Lew: Good point. “Not-so-full uniform” more appropriate.

Chop Chop

February 27th, 2009
4:10 pm

I’ll be interested to see what Smoltz does, mbatl. It’s gonna be a while before he’s pitching, though. Andruw has already failed miserably away from Atlanta. If he were pursuing redemption at Dark Star (and I’m glad he’s not), that would be interesting.

As far as Tex goes, I hope he tears his knee up. He’s a Yankee. I hate the Yankees.

ncscoots

February 27th, 2009
4:10 pm

DOB, re your squib on Brandon Hicks…does the organization really value his glove that much? I ask only because I haven’t been impressed with his defense in the past, and I’ve seen him play a good bit.

dude

February 27th, 2009
4:11 pm

ChipperFan u r the new SAGE of this blog. (still laughing)

PWHjort

February 27th, 2009
4:11 pm

Being “clutch” isn’t a repeatable skill. Get that out of your head.

MFin04

February 27th, 2009
4:12 pm

You gotta love Bobby Cox. Guy can give up a grand slam…and Bobby will be like…too bad the wind was blowing out today…you had good stuff today kid. He’s just such a great manager and keeps everyone relaxed and never gets frustrated.

Chop Chop

February 27th, 2009
4:12 pm

It ain’t unreasonable to expect the top part of a Hooters girl’s uni to be full, right?

kirkinga

February 27th, 2009
4:12 pm

Wayne, you’re correct about Boyer. He just ran out of gas last season. I thought we all knew that as there was a collective gasp on the blog as we all worried that he was being overused.

Bennett is the long guy, either he or Buddy. I think Bennett is the better choice with that sinker. I think it’s back to the minors for Campillo as I don’t see him winning a spot in the rotation or in the pen. He’s a victim of having some pretty good power arms in the pen.

Wayne in Utah

February 27th, 2009
4:13 pm

Let’s cut Gonzo, his fastball isn’t over 88 after 3 games. What a bum!

mFin04: Your comment on the starters is spot on, and has been stated about 20K times since the end of last season. No truer words were ever blogged.

Josh H

February 27th, 2009
4:14 pm

MFin04:

You can’t just say that Schafer won’t lead off. He has speed, power, and gets on base. He could hit there. Cox had Schafer batting 1st on the ESPN game. He’s not as fast as Anderson, but he certainly isn’t slow. If he makes the team over Josh Anderson in Spring Training, it’ll be because he is ready to hit in the majors.

If Josh Anderson is the lead off guy, well we’ve had much worse in recent years.

getnathan

February 27th, 2009
4:14 pm

Chop CHop…a man after my own heart. I bet you don’t hate the Yankees as much as I do

BravesFaninPhilly

February 27th, 2009
4:14 pm

Glove, Scott used to be my favorite player when I was 6 or 7. I think it was because my little league team was the ‘Stros & I got his Starting Lineup figure for my birthday. Boy, all that hard throwing (and hard living) caught up to him quick, didn’t it?

ChipperFan

February 27th, 2009
4:15 pm

Thanks, dude.
I’ll try and fire off a gem here and there. I can’t compete with Bubdylan, though.

TDub

February 27th, 2009
4:15 pm

Anybody bashing the bullpen because of last year’s results needs to remember that they were all ridiculously overworked because we lost almost all of our starters – and Gonzalez was fresh off a long DL stint. Try to see some context around the numbers you’re looking at.

Pete

February 27th, 2009
4:16 pm

Wonder if Chipper went after any of the Hooters girls after the game (or maybe even during the game)??

Wayne in Utah

February 27th, 2009
4:17 pm

PWHjort

I am not sure what planet you come from, but go tell Derek Jeter that “clutch is not sustainable”. Your statement is Barbara Streisand.

It never ceases to amaze me the logic some use on the blog……

Get out of your “stat fog” and watch the games.

Random

February 27th, 2009
4:18 pm

MFin04 (3:51 pm): “I dont think Gonzo is going to close for the Braves this year. I realize he is the closer…but he was really in consistent last year.”

Are you insane, or merely oblivious?

Chop Chop

February 27th, 2009
4:18 pm

That may be true, getnathan. The team I cheer for in the AL is the Red Sox because I know their fans (the real ones that were there before the World Series titles) are kindred spirits. All I know is that I can watch regular season Yankee games on ESPN or FOX and feel my blood boil.

Wayne in Utah

February 27th, 2009
4:19 pm

kirkinga

How ya been?

Josh H

February 27th, 2009
4:19 pm

To make my point…Schafer has been compared to (probably unfairly) Grady Sizemore of the Indians. Grady Sizemore batted first in every game he played for them.

kirkinga

February 27th, 2009
4:20 pm

“Being “clutch” isn’t a repeatable skill. Get that out of your head”
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Tell that to Joe Montana, or Larry Bird, or Jordan. Tell it to Tiger. Some players are more likely to make a play when a play needs to be made than others. That is what clutch is. If clutch isn’t “repeatable”, what do you call Mariano Rivera?

We know Garret Anderson’s track record is that he performs better in certain “crucial and important” situations than many other players. We know he’s done this over some 15 seasons, that seems as close to repetitious and consistent as you can get in baseball.

ncscoots

February 27th, 2009
4:20 pm

Wayne, ferchrissake, don’t get that “clutch” conversation going again. Please, bubba. Just because the other blogger missed those conversations doesn’t mean the rest of us should have to relive them, LOL.

Patrick

February 27th, 2009
4:21 pm

DOB- that’s why I love Bobby. He NEVER has anything bad to say about any of his players. A player could give up 15 runs in an inning and a third and Bobby’d be talking about how nice his splitter was looking.

Who’s after Bobby, do you think? Is it Pendleton? Maybe bringing back Ned Yost? Snitker?

TN Jeff

February 27th, 2009
4:21 pm

Andruw Jones – 0 for 2 with 2 K’s

Glad he’s Texas’ problem now

James is Red

February 27th, 2009
4:23 pm

MFin04 – were you saying that my 10 win prediction for Glavine was not realistic? Why? He could easily start 20 – 23 games this year. You think 10 wins is that crazy?

Random

February 27th, 2009
4:24 pm

Wayne in Utah (4:17 pm): “PWHjort

I am not sure what planet you come from, but go tell Derek Jeter that “clutch is not sustainable”. “

Show me some numbers that say Jeter is “clutch” — I’m not interested in your “gut” feelings.

If you do come up with stats or other objective evidence of Jeter’s “clutchness”, I’ll eat my hat if they’re valid.

keylargo

February 27th, 2009
4:24 pm

Glove51 – No doubt Mike Scott had a great splitter, but did you ever see Bruce Sutter? When he was closing in his prime he would strike people out and bounce the ball in front of home plate half the time. People looked like Andruw Jones at his worst against Sutter. And That’s Bad!!

kirkinga

February 27th, 2009
4:25 pm

Great Wayne and you? It’s Spring Training, the Braves are back, things suddenly seem a little better.

You asked me something awhile back, I’ve forgotten what, but I don’t think you caught my answer. Just so you know I didn’t leave you hangin’

Hopefully the pen will be healthier than last season. I really would like to see what Boyer and Acosta can do when they don’t have to pitch as frequently due to the starters staying in longer, and they don’t have to fulfill roles they weren’t being counted on filling due to the return of Moylan and Soriano.

mbatl

February 27th, 2009
4:26 pm

“To make my point…Schafer has been compared to (probably unfairly) Grady Sizemore of the Indians. Grady Sizemore batted first in every game he played for them.”

Josh H, that’s just an outright mis-statement. Sizemore batted mostly 7th/8th/9th in his first year (2004); and the same for his first 20 or so games in 2005. The Indians gave him 60-70 games before moving him up to leadoff fulltime.

PWHjort

February 27th, 2009
4:26 pm

It’s not a matter of debate. Research shows that hitting with runners in scoring position is not a repeatable skill. It’s just not. And there’s nothing you can say to refute that. Good players play well, sometimes with the bases empty, sometimes with the sacks packed. Bad players don’t. The notion of “clutch” in baseball is a delusion.

Renegator

February 27th, 2009
4:26 pm

We need Hooters girls at every game if it’s going to cause Chipper to hit a homerun.

PWHjort

February 27th, 2009
4:27 pm

By the way, Royce Ring is trying to close out this Mets Cardinals game and he’s tanking. It was 9-4 2 men nobody out on when he came in, it’s now 9-8 2 men on 2 outs.

MFin04

February 27th, 2009
4:28 pm

James…i wasnt saying 10-12 wins was crazy…i was wanting….ERA innings pitched…etc. Do many guys pitching 5th get that many wins? I was wanting more info…not saying you were incorrect

Josh H

February 27th, 2009
4:28 pm

mbatl:

I meant to say “every game this year”. My apologies.

Lew

February 27th, 2009
4:28 pm

Is that the same research that says a ball doesn’t actually curve?

Pete

February 27th, 2009
4:29 pm

“We need Hooters girls at every game if it’s going to cause Chipper to hit a homerun.”

I think it causes something else lol

PWHjort

February 27th, 2009
4:29 pm

I guess we can expect a 4.55 ERA in 150 IP from Glavine. Around 75 K’s and a 1.35 WHIP.

MFin04

February 27th, 2009
4:30 pm

Gonzo got lucky in a lot of the games he pitched…and there were non save situations were he didnt blow a save…just blew the game. Just havent been impressed…but I’ll reserve judgment until he blows his first save…he was awful the other day. I realize its the first game…but I’ve seen this from him before.

mbatl

February 27th, 2009
4:30 pm

Josh, guess you learned not to make a mistake around here, eh buddy?

PWHjort

February 27th, 2009
4:31 pm

Research done by Bill James. In addition to revolutionizing the way we look at baseball, Bill James has been employed by the Red Sox since 2003. What have they done since then? 2 world championships.

ncscoots

February 27th, 2009
4:32 pm

Is that the same research that says a ball doesn’t actually curve?

No, but I bet it’s in the same body of work that shows God-like pontifications from cred-less bloggers tends to slow the winning of friends and influencing of people by same.

Josh H

February 27th, 2009
4:32 pm

mbatl: Is it’s Friday and 4:30 an excuse? :)

On topic: It would be prudent to start Schafer out batting 7th or 8th. But with our lineup being completely void of other good leadoff options, if he makes the majors you just might have to throw him in that role.

MFin04

February 27th, 2009
4:33 pm

I dont like having a closer…that walks a lot of guys…making me turn up the volume on my tv while i listen to the game…while sitting on the toliet in the bathroom…so i dont wet myself and the couch.

getnathan

February 27th, 2009
4:33 pm

Chop Chop – A friend of mine always raves about how great the Yankees WERE, and I hate how they think they can buy a championship, and I hate the way they treated Joe Torre, and I hate the way they use Joba Chamberlain (their version of Hanson just more experienced), I hate the way they build their teams. I can go on and on and on. They are the most disgraceful franchise in all of sports in my opinion.

TN Jeff

February 27th, 2009
4:36 pm

Renegator 4:26 pm

I agree – Chipper always seems to be productive with Hooters girls

MFin04

February 27th, 2009
4:36 pm

Not to mention overpaying for players…and giving 6 year contracts when…a 3 year contract would make more sense. Im glad they signed Burnett….it seems like the Braves…got lucky with all their moves falling through…i like having lowe and escobar…and the rest of the new guys. i think every one of our moves worked out for the best.

David O'Brien

February 27th, 2009
4:37 pm

Someone might want to look it up somewhere (I’m trying to finish a story), but I heard Andruw is 5-for-5 with five strikeouts this spring….

Dwight Schrute

February 27th, 2009
4:37 pm

Andruw Jones first 3 games this spring…0 for 5 with 5 strikeouts…..Hilarious.

timthebrave

February 27th, 2009
4:38 pm

Gonzo closed out 14 out of 16 after coming off surgery. I don’t think he even blew a save with Pittsburgh. I guess he should be throwing as hard as he can in his first inning of preseason. Unless I guy throws 95mph+ you think a pitcher is not a great pitcher. The braves had 2 pitchers that threw in the 80’s that are going to the hall of fame. You are taking preseason too serious. Maybe you should head down to FL, check out some hooters girls, and relax a little

MFin04

February 27th, 2009
4:38 pm

LOL, that sounds like Bobby. “Hey Andruw…your swing looks good. You are 5 for 5 so far in spring training.”

Joe

February 27th, 2009
4:39 pm

Andruw Jones now 0-5 with 5 punchouts on the spring….

Chop Chop

February 27th, 2009
4:39 pm

Ol’ kirkinga lists five all-time great players in various sports as proof of “clutch.” The best athletes are generally the most “clutch” because they are the best players in almost every other situation.

Now, as far as Garret Anderson is concerned, his career numbers do not show an abundance of clutch:

2 outs/RISP: .287/.356/.428

Close and Late: .299/.339/.430

Tie Game: .291/.321/.459

Those numbers aren’t bad, of course. Anderson’s overall career numbers are .296/.327/.469.

In other words, Garret Anderson is pretty consistent. He doesn’t lose his **** when the chips are down, but he doesn’t exactly elevate his game either. It’s nice to have a known quantity on the ball club (I know Bobby’s raving already), but don’t expect Garret Anderson to be Mr. Clutch.

Wayne in Utah

February 27th, 2009
4:40 pm

PWHjort

Barbara Streisand.

Random

While I would love to see you eat your hat, I have not the time nor the inclination to humor you. Again, Barbara Streisand.

MFin04

February 27th, 2009
4:42 pm

I’ll take batting .290 to .300 in every and any situation all day long. If guys are on base…that means he will get a hefty number of RBIs batting in the 3,4,5, spots.

keylargo

February 27th, 2009
4:44 pm

Tn Jeff at 4:36

I agree – Chipper always seems to be productive with Hooters girls

He’s also been reproductive with Hooters’ girls.

Shane

February 27th, 2009
4:44 pm

Wayne

Because you know they are right. Keep fighting the good fight guys. There is no such thing as “clutch” just as wins arent a good indicator of who is a good pitcher. Its going to take awhile but eventually people will start to realize which stats matter in baseball and which ones dont. OPS WHIP are very important. Wins RBI Batting Average not nearly as much.

Wayne in Utah

February 27th, 2009
4:44 pm

Unfortunate about Andruw. Expected, but still unfortunate.

Buffalo NY Braves Fan

February 27th, 2009
4:45 pm

Kirkinga,

The statement was being clutch isn’t a repeatable SKILL. Clutch hitting is not a skill, it is part of a hitters mental make-up. It is more about mental ability than any physical skill they possess.

That would be the same in any sport.

By the way, Tiger Woods was clutch yesterday when he failed to advance, wasn’t he.

kirkinga

February 27th, 2009
4:45 pm

It’s not a matter of debate. Research shows that hitting with runners in scoring position is not a repeatable skill.

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If this is true, show us the “research”. I think we need to understand that sabermetricians have biases too and it shows up in how they chose to use certain variables or not, and how much weight they give to them.

The definition of repeat is: “To do, experience, or produce again”. We can see that by the plain meaning of the word, what you say can’t be true. If it were, then no player would ever make a clutch play more than once, much less multiple times during every season.

How do we explain Mariano Rivera? He repeatedly executes in the clutch, regular season and playoff, season after season.

Original Jon

February 27th, 2009
4:46 pm

MFin04 What are you talking about? Mike had a WHIP of 1.18 last year which is not bad for a closer at all, So how do you figure he walks a lot of guys. Oh, and timthebrave, I think MFin04 is a girl, so why would she want to see Hooters girls?

keylargo

February 27th, 2009
4:47 pm

Someone might want to look it up somewhere (I’m trying to finish a story), but I heard Andruw is 5-for-5 with five strikeouts this spring….DOB

That’s correct. He was 0 for 3 with 3 strikeouts before today and today against the Cubs he’s wearing an 0 for 2 collar with 2 strikeouts. Has not hit the ball this spring.

Wayne in Utah

February 27th, 2009
4:48 pm

Lew, we are surrounded by those of superior intellect! We must be old has beens. Heck, if I was a horse, they woulda shot me already.

Last time I went to the doctor, he told me my Whip was whupped, and that my OPS+ was flat.

BA

February 27th, 2009
4:49 pm

Once again, kirknga with his familiar refrain- I have yet to see you back up your repetitive claims that Garrett Anderson is “clutch”.

Where’s the beef?

Chop Chop

February 27th, 2009
4:49 pm

Here’s a guy for ya…

Brad Lidge.

Is he clutch?

Original Jon

February 27th, 2009
4:49 pm

Shane I think batting average might be one of those stats that might matter a little bit. You wouldnt a guy on your team batting in the cleanup spot with an .173 batting average would ya?

cabravesfan

February 27th, 2009
4:50 pm

As far as Gonzo is concerned this is pretty much the only number that concerns me: since 2005 he is 43 for 45 in save oppertunities.

ncscoots

February 27th, 2009
4:51 pm

Wayne, I believe Shaun has been out recruiting.

Shane

February 27th, 2009
4:51 pm

But thats exactly the point. Its not clutch because he does it everytime wether its against KC in March or the WS in October.

Winning teams basically lead the league in two categories every year On base percentage and Slugging.

You see the object of baseball is to not make an out. Guys like Francouer make em in spades. thats why he is a losing player who couldnt play for certain teams (Like the Red Sox) Where guys like Youkilis dont make outs. You see this helps the team win, when you dont make outs. Like Francouer does over and over and over again.

Shane

February 27th, 2009
4:52 pm

Jon

If his OPB was .400 i wouldnt care less.

Wayne in Utah

February 27th, 2009
4:53 pm

Oh Manny, where art thou?

Dwight Schrute

February 27th, 2009
4:54 pm

Correction…Andruw is now 0 for 6 with 6 strikeouts…..I LOVE THIS GAME!!

Shane

February 27th, 2009
4:54 pm

Go get me some beets you idiot

Wayne in Utah

February 27th, 2009
4:55 pm

scoots

I give up. From this point forward, I will not engage those of superior intellect. I know my place. I am comfortable there.

ncscoots

February 27th, 2009
4:56 pm

You see this helps the team win, when you dont make outs.

Need to work on your condescension a little, not quite thick enough yet.

mbatl

February 27th, 2009
4:56 pm

Andruw is now 6 for 6. Geez!

KC

February 27th, 2009
4:57 pm

That’s what chipper told us. He worked out all winter with Andruw and Frenchy and indicated that AJ didn’t really look any better, but Francoeur looked great.

So far so good on the first part of that equation. The jury’s still out on the second part, obviously. Hopefully he’s as right about Francoeur as it appears he was about AJ.

flange1

February 27th, 2009
4:57 pm

Wow someone mentioned Bill James!

Has anyone ever heard of him?

He works for the Red Sox?

WOW!

Does he know anything about baseball stats?

Do you think he likes ERA, saves and RBI? Bet he does but he will say he doesn’t…

Wayne in Utah

February 27th, 2009
4:58 pm

Can the Andruw saga get any stranger? It is truly a sad situation for our once beloved CF’er.

flange1

February 27th, 2009
4:58 pm

Wayne, have you ever heard of Bill James?

Us guys in the blog need to be introduced to these new baseball guys….

flbravesgirl

February 27th, 2009
4:59 pm

Really fun game to watch. McFann, I took many pics. If any turned out OK, I’ll send ‘em along.

Nice to meet you, DOB.

Wayne in Utah

February 27th, 2009
4:59 pm

If Brandon Jones shows off big time this spring, who will be threatened the most? Garret A or Frenchy?

MFin04

February 27th, 2009
5:00 pm

Stop the in love with Gonzalez crap. The only reason he actually became or closer is because Acosta and Soriano got hurt. His perfection numbers werent even with the Braves…they were with the Pirates…he was 14 of 16…big deal…that really isnt dominant stuff. that would equal out to 42 of 48…which isnt that bad…but it isnt terrific. He also had games..that he came in when we were down…and would give up 2 or 3 runs. It isnt just about save appearances. It is about every time you go out there and pitch. Also..his blown saves were closer towards the end of the year…which means as the season progressed he got worse…which could translate into him being worse now.

Random

February 27th, 2009
5:00 pm

Wayne in Utah (12:48 pm): “Actually, I hope he never signs. I hope the selfish you know what and his money grubbing agent lose their shirts on this one.

I have no patience or need for somebody who would lay down on his team, just to get a better deal. I just hope he gets what he deserves.”

Who you talkin about, Wayne?

Babe Ruth in 1919?

Or Joe Dimaggio in 1938?

Or maybe Curt Flood in 1970?

Your accusations above are equally valid to all three, you know.

Yer just a hater, Wayne — plain and simple.

PS: KC: “Does anyone know if today’s game is on local radio (in ATL)?”

Here’s the braves.com radio broadcast schedule.

PPS: WiU — Barbara Streisand??? I take it you mean “Barbra”, but have no idea how so. What do you mean?

Original Jon

February 27th, 2009
5:00 pm

You want clutch on Garret Anderson, how is this for clutch, in the past 3 years he has come up to bat with bases loaded 43 times and has driven in 38 of those runners with a .372 batting average and a .956 OPS. That isnt clutch? He also has a .300 batting average with runners in scoring position for the past 3 years, not too bad either. You can gauge how clutch a person is by the number of runs they drive in in close and late situations.

Wayne in Utah

February 27th, 2009
5:00 pm

Didn’t he have a band in the 60’s and 70’s?

keylargo

February 27th, 2009
5:02 pm

I don’t know why the Braves haven’t signed Ohman for a million but I would sure hate to think we had wasted that million on signing Andruw Jones. And I heard 50 people on this blog say, “what could it hurt to sign him”. You don’t just throw money away in any successful business.

BravesFanInRockies

February 27th, 2009
5:02 pm

BTW, Mariano Rivera is not a clutch performer. He’s simply the best closer in the history of the game.

Willy Wally

February 27th, 2009
5:03 pm

——- OPS WHIP are very important. Wins RBI Batting Average not nearly as much. ——–

OPS and WHIP?!@?!?!? Holy I love the 90s! 1997 called and they want their “cutting edge” stats back. Hate to break it to you but there are much more telling stats than OPS and WHIP. Sabermetrics has advanced a long ways from these stats you find so important. Seriously, I feel like I just went back in the time machine and happened upon a message board argument from way back in my college days. Thanks for the flashback. It’s hilarious to hear someone say how dare you use those primitive counting stats, you should be using these primitive sabermetric stats.

MFin04

February 27th, 2009
5:03 pm

I hope the Braves hire Chipper to be hitting coach some time…and Smotlz, Maddux, or Glavine to be a pitching coach. Wouldnt that be cool.

kirkinga

February 27th, 2009
5:05 pm

Chop Chop…you are the only one to describe Anderson’s number’s as “not bad”. Of course, this misses the whole point which is the Braves as a team were bad in those situations and so his acquisition is going to improve the team if he performs as his 15 year record says he will. That’s the point that important, what it does for the Braves.

But you just put Anderson’s numbers up there label them “not bad”, but you don’t provide any other data. Why is that? We’re supposed to take your word for the matter? Don’t think so buddy, you’re great, but I disagree with you on this one.

Some players perform better under pressure, we know that. We don’t need an equation to “prove” it to us. Sometimes you really can trust your own eyes.

Buffalo NY Braves Fan….first, that is exactly what someone said and I was responding to him, so you’re wrong, someone did say it.

The idea that it is a singular and discrete “skill” is in itself the problem. It is not a skill. Player are not asked to do something in the clutch that they aren’t asked to do throughout the game. An exception would be closers in baseball, but only because they enter games late.

So there is no such thing as a “clutch skill”, there is only performance in clutch situations. I think you were touching on that point so we can agree there. As far as picking All-Time great, well that’s the point! That’s part of their legacies, their ability to hit, pass, catch, kick, run, throw, make a pitch, get a hit, defend the goal, make a goal, make a putt, when that is what;’s needed to win a game.

So stop with this “skill” stuff(the other guy, not you). There’s only hit or no hit, catch or didn’t catch, made the pitch or fail to make. Throw in stealing bases, and those are the only “skills” in baseball.

By the way, trying to diminish Tiger Woods record based on his performance his first time back from a long injury absence seems really weak to me.

McFann :Ô:

February 27th, 2009
5:05 pm

flbravesgirl

Thanks! Can’t wait! Glad you got to see a good game. This season, I hope to see McCann get a hit while we’re at a game. Been a couple years since I’ve had that thrill…at least the Braves have won most of the games we’ve attended the past few years.

MFin04

February 27th, 2009
5:07 pm

Here are his numbers for Sept.

Sept. Totals 12innings….8 runs….4hrs…7bbs…20ks….5.84 ERA….7 saves 2blown saves…what a closer

Original Jon

February 27th, 2009
5:07 pm

MFin04, do you watch baseball at all? I mean, the guy just came back from Tommy John surgery in Mid June and saved 14 out of 16 games. You say he was progressively getting worse by the end of the season? hmmmm, lets see, the guy just had TOMMY JOHN SURGERY!!!!!!!!!! You think he was at full strength at the end of the year after just coming back from a year of rehab??? What is it with you? If the guy goes out there and saves 50 games this year you still wouldnt be happy. I feel like you have a personal vendetta against him or something

Wayne in Utah

February 27th, 2009
5:08 pm

Random

Sorry for misspelling Barbra (Bull) Streisand ($hit),which is what I attach to your comparing Babe Ruth, Joe D and Curt Flood to Manny.

If you don’t see the difference, I sure as heck am not going to debate it with you. As thick skulled as you seem to be, I don’t have a prayer to try to convince you of anything (not that I am much different)

And there you go with that “Hate” word again. Are your like some of the folks on my TV, who want to lump anyone who disagrees with them as “hate mongerers”.

I don’t hate Manny. I really don’t know of anybody I hate. I hate injustice. I hate this recession. I hate oppression. I don’t hate Manny.

I just hope he gets what he deserves, whatever that might be…..

SoWeGa Fanatic

February 27th, 2009
5:09 pm

Been reading the ole blog. The ignorance of some people on here is truly amazing.

As to Andrew’s issues, I hate it. The guy did a great deal for the Braves back in the day b4 he totally lost it.

MFin04

February 27th, 2009
5:09 pm

G. Anderson…is going to fit in nicely with the Braves…high average guy…who will drive in runs with runners on. Id much rather have that…then a guy batting .220 and hitting a lot of homeruns that cant field.

cabravesfan

February 27th, 2009
5:09 pm

MFin04

You would really have issues with our closer saving 42 games? What would be acceptable to you? Considering we had 26 saves as a team last year I would gladly take 42 of 48 this season. You would seriously rather have Acosta or Soriano close games for us?

Goldenglove002

February 27th, 2009
5:10 pm

DOB,
What kind of information can you give us about Diory Hernandez. If i remeber correctly, he had a pretty decent season out in the AFL. Does he have any type of future with the team?

Buffalo NY Braves Fan

February 27th, 2009
5:10 pm

kirkinga,

The Tiger Woods example was just a recent example of one of the athletes you posted about “failing” in the “clutch”

Kind of fit the point, while it may have been a somewhat weak analogy.

In any event, it seems we are on the same path that being “clutch” is not a skill, nor is it really that measurable. If you have a .333 hitter and he’s 0-2 in the first 2 at bats of the game, but happens to get his last hit of the game in the 9th to drive in the winning run…. do we consider that “clutch” or “being average” ?

kirkinga

February 27th, 2009
5:11 pm

BTW, Mariano Rivera is not a clutch performer. He’s simply the best closer in the history of the game.

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Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha! Oh my my my! That’s funny. You’re either a lawyer or a politician.

Comeon now, there are good players who don’t do well in clutch situations. We’ve witnessed this phenomenon as Braves fans. Suddenly the pressure is on, there is more at stake, and players who succeeded in the regular season, couldn’t get it done in the clutch. Same thing for any particular game. We know that certain players do well in ‘Close and late” situations and they all aren’t great players.

I can’t believe any baseball fan would ever write that Rivera isn’t clutch. Wow!

Wayne in Utah

February 27th, 2009
5:12 pm

OJ

It seems obvious that a lot of folks don’t watch the games too much.

Magnus Pym

February 27th, 2009
5:12 pm

Andruw is 7 for 7 or is it 6 for 6… lol lol lol, another sports car needed I think..

Clutch – yes there is such a thing if one can expand their mind..

3 World Cup wins due to Shane Warne = Australia
Triple crown soccer due to Ryan Giggs = Manchester United

Bernie
Jeter
Rivera = those sad sack of waste Yankees….

Joe Montana

Pippen and a dude called Jordan

Jack bloody Nicklaus… Tiger effing Woods…. Tom Watson…. Lee Trevino….

shall we go on

David Ortiz…. Manny

Dave JUSTICE……………

Kirby frickin Puckett

MFin04

February 27th, 2009
5:13 pm

I dont have anything with him…except his numbers in Sept. If he comes back…and a lot of times with TJ surgery it is a BIG if….and gets 50 saves…id be impressed. Id be impressed with 35 to 40 saves. But you can have 10-15 blown saves in there. I like Moylan and Soriano too. There is no reason they couldnt close games. Sometimes saves are more a product of time and situation then good pitching. If you are up 3 with the 6,7,8 hitters up…thats an easy save. Up 1 with Utley…Howard…etc up next…that is a “real” save.

Wayne in Utah

February 27th, 2009
5:14 pm

cabravesfan

It’s amateur day here on the ole blog.

Chop Chop

February 27th, 2009
5:15 pm

kirk,

Based on Garret Anderson’s career stats in those situations, I think that we should expect, at minimum, his career numbers in those stats. If he decides to go crazy on the National League this year in pressure situations, I’m all for it. I’m just going by what his career stats tell me. He’s never played for my team before.

keylargo

February 27th, 2009
5:16 pm

MFin04

As Original Jon said, MG had Tommy John surgery in June of 07. It is a 18 month rehab period before a pitcher is back to full strength. Some can come back and pitch as part of the rehab in about a year, if they pay the price by working in rehab. MG did this and came back at 70 or 80%, whatever, but he will not be 100% until a full 18 month period, which is now. Give the guy a chance to get in shape and get his mechanics back. Pitching involves your entire body, as Mike Hampton proved. He was among the best in baseball prior to his injury and there is no reason he can’t be back on top.

MFin04

February 27th, 2009
5:18 pm

Batting .300 with runners in scoring position will drive in a lot of runs will it not? Who cares about clutch. .300 with runners in scoring position is just fine with me. Consistency is better than clutch anyways. Its like the old basketball adage…of “He hits free throws when they count”. I dont want a guy that makes them when they count…I want a guy like Steve Nash that hits them when he is tired…when he has the flu…when his grandmother dies…when he is blindfolded…when its the first quater…etc. Same thing with Anderson…he will get hits in all parts of the game…not just the end…or when runners are on.

Buffalo NY Braves Fan

February 27th, 2009
5:18 pm

If anyone remembers…

2 years ago Frenchy was in the top 3 for driving in RISP with 2 outs. Then last year happened….

Is he clutch? Or were his first 2 years just a mistake….

CharlieAlphaBravo

February 27th, 2009
5:18 pm

Magnus:

It’s called the “treble” in soccer… And I’m not sure you can give all the credit to Giggs. That’s a bit like saying the ‘92 Dream Team won gold because of Mark Price. Sure, he’s good, but there were a few other guys on that team that might have had something to do with it…

keylargo

February 27th, 2009
5:19 pm

MFin04

By the way, the elbow is stronger AFTER Tommy John surgery than it was before the injury.

kirkinga

February 27th, 2009
5:19 pm

BravesFanInRockies …you know I’m just messing with you I hope?

(Except for the Rivera isn’t clutch part)

MFin04

February 27th, 2009
5:19 pm

keylargo…ill give you that…well said. i’ll wait and see…i hope for the teams sake he is back. he obviously wasnt back last year…that is all i am saying. he needs better numbers this year. and if he is 100% like he says he is…there is no reason…he shouldnt have great numbers. agreed.

cabravesfan

February 27th, 2009
5:20 pm

Wayne-

I guess so…

Magnus Pym

February 27th, 2009
5:21 pm

MFin04 – I think there is a stat about quality saves.. if that makes sense, cannot recall where I saw it but I am pretty sure it is analyzed by some geek somewhere….

$100M for a defensive tackle in this market… I am really laughing now

Manny is worth $35M a year on thatr scale…

PWHjort

February 27th, 2009
5:23 pm

The research can be found at http://www.billjamesonline.net/ and I’m not at liberty to post it here because the website is a pay-only site and I can’t post information people pay for in a public place.

Buffalo NY Braves Fan

February 27th, 2009
5:24 pm

Magnus,

Don’t say that…. Manny may be reading this blog and use that against the Dodgers in negotiations LOL

PWHjort

February 27th, 2009
5:24 pm

Mariano Rivera isn’t clutch, he’s just all around good no matter what the situation.

PWHjort

February 27th, 2009
5:25 pm

And 43 PA’s isn’t big enough of a sample size to draw any conclusions. GREAT hitters sometimes go through 43 PA spans where they fail to reach safely then will turn around and go through another 43 PA span where they hit .700

MFin04

February 27th, 2009
5:25 pm

It is interesting…that Manny gets that much money…but can’t field the baseball. I realize he is one of the top 5 hitters of this generation…but…surely…his defense alone…would knock off some of the money wouldnt you think? I mean ARod and Pujols…are great hitters and can field. Do guys not get any money based on defensive ability?

TnBrian

February 27th, 2009
5:26 pm

This might not sit well with some here, but if Franc. has another year like last year, kiss the playoffs goodbye. I don’t care about what anybody here will say, Jeff is the key..period. Look at how many guys he left on base and since there aren’t many, if any, legit power guys on this team to round the bases, there will be more on base. He starts that crap again in ‘09, send him packing and or bench him for the team and our sake. But, Bobby will never bench him for long and will campaign to keep him around even if he sucks again.

Magnus Pym

February 27th, 2009
5:27 pm

Buffalo – Frenchy was top of the league one year for RBI with 2 out BUT HE HAD more bats with 2 out and RISP etc etc

Charlie Alpha – yes Giggs had help from Solskaer and the right foot of some dude but he peeves me big time as I am a Chelsea fan..

but Nicklaus and Warne. there is no argument

kirkinga

February 27th, 2009
5:28 pm

Buffalo NY Braves Fan…yes, during that season, he did well in that one clutch category. And I seemed to recall we were all cheering him on and were hoping to see him come up in those situations.

I’m glad you raised that example, because it goes to show further that clutch is not a “skill” and that it’s not only great players who can perform well in the clutch.

Garret Anderson though has been getting it done for a long time now. Not a spectacular player, not blessed with loads of power, or speed. But when you really need a hit, he succeeds more often than many others, and almost all of the Braves. He’s even getting better with age as someone else has pointed out.

This really is about the Braves, first and foremost. Can we do better in scoring opportunities than we did last season? With the addition of Garret Anderson, there is a track record that says he will help.

Magnus Pym

February 27th, 2009
5:29 pm

Mariano got smashed in 2001 WS and critical at bats in 2004 ALCS… FWIW

Even Yankees players and fans up here in “Mucilville” think so

cphizzle

February 27th, 2009
5:35 pm

well i dont care how 2009 comes out this year im just glad that im not a freakin yankees or red sox fan can i get an amen from the congregation

Magnus Pym

February 27th, 2009
5:35 pm

Amen brother…….. love to Braves fans

PWHjort

February 27th, 2009
5:36 pm

Wayne in Utah

February 27th, 2009
5:36 pm

TnBrian

While I would agree that Francoeur left a lot of runners stranded last year, he could suck as badly this year, and we could still make the playoffs. I think our rotation made our “hitting in the clutch” look worse than it really was.

If we would have been able to hold teams to .5 to 1 run less per game last year, we would have given Philly and the Mets a run. Gotta lay that blame on the injuries that beset the staff moreso than hitting in the clutch (I love typing that….)

Wayne in Utah

February 27th, 2009
5:37 pm

kirkinga

February 27th, 2009
5:38 pm

PWHjort.. again, we all, or most of us, have respect for Bill James. But just because he says something doesn’t make it true. I believe we already talked about his work and Nate Silver’s work as well?

In any research, it’s about what questions you are asking. Bill James has his questions, Silver has his, the folks over at Fangraph with their “clutch” stat have theirs, etc…

Look, sometimes people overthink stuff. Sometimes some existing stats really do tell you all you really need to know. I want to know which Braves are the best to have at the plate in those “clutch” and “late and close situation”. We have stats that we can use for that purpose. I pretty sure that is not the question James or Silver were attempting to answer in the “research”.

Buffalo NY Braves Fan

February 27th, 2009
5:38 pm

Wayne,

I think you are right with the pitching. But you have to admit…. losing that many 1 run games did put the clutch hitting under the microscope a lot last season.

FYRMedic

February 27th, 2009
5:42 pm

Chipper Jones is the modern day Cal Ripken Jr. Dude knows how to take care of the fans!

kirkinga

February 27th, 2009
5:42 pm

Mariano got smashed in 2001 WS and critical at bats in 2004 ALCS… FWIW

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So what? All that means is he’s not perfect. No one claimed he was perfect. The claim is he’s clutch. His overall record supports that claim.

Again, you can be good, and not perform well in the clutch. Some players are both, like Rivera. But no one is perfect…lol!

kirkinga

February 27th, 2009
5:45 pm

Sorry all for my spelling and grammatical errors. Too rushed in writing my comments today.

jcfromut

February 27th, 2009
5:47 pm

Any news on Chipper signing and extention?

Magnus Pym

February 27th, 2009
5:48 pm

kirkinga – good points, he is the best I have seen, just saying some of the “Chardonnay Yanks fans” (who probably have died in this recession) have been whining loud and long about those 2-3 outings and how he is not clutch……..

this is why sometimes stats are good, they remove the optical illusion caused by those anecdotal failures and successes….

cphizzle

February 27th, 2009
5:49 pm

dont know about you guys but i am pretty stoked about the talent that we got coming up the next couple of years. looks like we got all of the positions covered. glad that we do the things the right way, bring players up through the system and develope them instead of buying and overpaying players.

TnBrian

February 27th, 2009
5:50 pm

Wayne in Utah, I hope you’re right, but I have yet to read one article or sentence in the last week or two that even has Atl. above a 3rd place finish for this year. I’m not exagerating one bit either. But, nobody knows what will happen to a team with injuries, etc. through 162 games, so we’ll see.

Francoeur is the key. Look at all the 1 run loses and the majority of that was the offenses fault. Jeff was to be blamed for most of it. I’m not saying that even if he’d been really good in ‘08 would we have won the division because of the injuries to the pitchers, but he can definitely hold us back in ‘09 with that miserable production. We have the durable pitchers and the pen is healthy, so we need him back.

Wayne in Utah

February 27th, 2009
5:51 pm

Buffalo

You’ll get no arguments from me that we stranded a lot of runners last year. We really did stink it up. We could have gone a lot farther had we had either more clutch (or better) hitting or a rotation that could consistently gotten us into the 6th and 7th innings.

I just see the rotation being more of the culprit. But it was an overall team failure.

I really like our chances with our much improved rotation, and our everyday lineup. Obviously, injuries can stir things up a lot, but if we get no more than the “league average” of injuries, I think we will be a .500 or better club.

As much as having another thumper would be ideal, I still like a lineup that has McCann, Chipper, Escobar, KJ, Kotchman, Francoeur and any combo from the ranks of Schafer, GAnderson, Diaz, BJones and JAnderson.

Not too many pushovers in that lineup, and Frenchie is certainly key.

I expect (or maybe better stated, hope) a breakout year from guys like Escobar, KJ and Kotchman this year. If each of those guys raise their games a notch or two, we could have an interesting summer.

Let’s not forget how critical it is that we get 130-140 games out of Hoss.

Luther

February 27th, 2009
5:51 pm

Reggie Jackson, regular season, 262-356-490, postseason(281ABs), 278-358-527

Mark Lemke, regular season, 246-317-324, postseason(232ABs), 272-335-353

Josh Beckett, regular season, 3.78, postseason(87IP), 2.90

John Smoltz, regular season, 3.26, postseason(207IP), 2.65

I honestly have always thought Smoltz threw better in big games. And you would think that the pitchers or hitters faced would be better in the postseason as well.

dogsbrekky

February 27th, 2009
5:51 pm

My girlfriend’s father is okay thank god, thanks for the well wishes..

So I checked in on Andy (ruw, not rew) and he has a hit, he has a hit

go kid

David O'Brien

February 27th, 2009
5:51 pm

Forgot who asked (this pagination thing hurts in that regard) about Diory Hernandez. The guys’s a talented player and could probably earn a spot on some teams, but not this one right now, it would seem, barring injury or trade. There’s just not an open job for an infielder with this club right now.

But he certainly could have a future somewhere, whether with the Braves or another team.

Wayne in Utah

February 27th, 2009
5:53 pm

TnBrian

I can’t remember ever the pundits getting it all correct before the season. I guess that’s why they play 162 games huh.

Its gonna be fun…….

dogsbrekky

February 27th, 2009
5:56 pm

Lemke – oh music to my ears, that guy was so good for us…. CLUTCH, whatever………… and Smoltzy….. Jack Morris 10 innings of clutch ball vs us………….

DID Heyward play today, I missed some innings ?

keylargo

February 27th, 2009
5:58 pm

I want to give a plug to Comcast wireless internet and Mozilla Firefox Browsers as a great combination for this blog. I can hit the refresh icon and 3 to 4 seconds later – there it is. Refreshed from the point I left it.

I started with Bell South DSL (ATT) and IE. What a pleasure it is now compared to then.

dogsbrekky

February 27th, 2009
5:59 pm

chizzle – hallelujah mate, I am very excited about the young talent

Medlen, Hanson, Freeman, Heyward, Hernandez, Schafer, B Jones (looks gr8), J Anderson (starter in ‘09)……….

Lew

February 27th, 2009
6:02 pm

Wayne-I don’t know, but I think your BABIP might be fluctuating. Better go see your Doctor.

David O'Brien

February 27th, 2009
6:04 pm

That plucking of Miguel Tejada yesterday by Tommy Hanson, let’s just say some Braves were impressed…..

Alright, gotta get out of here and drive back to the OrlanDisneyopolis.

TnBrian

February 27th, 2009
6:05 pm

Wayne, I know but when 99.9% of the pundits are arguing against most of us, you kinda have to start looking at it through their eyes, don’t you? Some of them I agree with. We have no “ace”, no legit leadoff hitter,no true power hitter, and the pen is a huge question with key guys coming off injuries. I really do believe that the durability and depth of the pitching will give Atl. a 2nd place finish, but a 3rd place won’t surprise me a bit. I hate them, but the Mutts are going to be tough with that pen and those 3-4-5 hitter, along with Reyes, and the Phills are tough too, but who knows. Their Sep. collapses or not, the Mutts are improved, people.

kirkinga

February 27th, 2009
6:07 pm

Magnus Pym…funny stuff. No offense to Chardonnay lovers though.

Lew

February 27th, 2009
6:09 pm

TNBrian-The people who make those predictions have been predominantly wrong for years. They claimed for years that the Braves’ streak would end and were wrong for at least 5-6 years. Some of them claimed we would go to the Series last year. We all know how that one turned out.

Personally, I’d rather expectations were lower for the Braves this year. It will make it all that much nicer when they exceed expectations, IMO.

Chop Chop

February 27th, 2009
6:16 pm

Luther,

I actually looked up Lemmer’s numbers when I started thinking about this clutch stuff. Lemmer had three great postseason series (’91 WS, ‘92 NLCS, ‘96 NLCS), one decent one (’95 WS), and seven awful ones. It doesn’t matter, though. We will always remember his great series because Lemmer raised his game so much.

On the other hand, we can look at a guy like A-Rod and see that his postseason numbers since the 2004 ALCS have been well below his overall career norms. Yankee fans are right to think that A-Rod isn’t a clutch player, at least in the postseason. His numbers are way off.

Chop Chop

February 27th, 2009
6:17 pm

I agree, Lew. I like lower expectations. As long as the players on the team expect more, that’s all that matters.

BravesFanInRockies

February 27th, 2009
6:25 pm

kirkinga,

Yup. Understood. I’ve said this before, but I have a problem with the whole idea of “clutch performers.” (The fact that it’s very difficult to measure clutchness only helps my case.)

If you imply a player is clutch, that his performance noticeably improves when the game’s on the line, then what’s he doing the rest of the time, loafing?

I could probably be convinced that there’s such a thing as being “non-clutch.” That some players do not respond well to high-pressure situations and their performance suffers.

But clutch? Don’t like it. Talented people (physically, mentally, both, whatever) get the job done.

TnBrian

February 27th, 2009
6:29 pm

Lew, you’re definitely right on these “experts” being wrong most of the time, but like I said, I do agree with what some of them have written about this team. This all got started with the Francoeur situation earlier, and I still think his bat holds the key for this team. Weird as that sounds, it’s probably true. It only stands true if injuries stay down and Moylan and Soriano bounce back after surgery,and Gonzo stays off the DL. We all just better hope that this team takes the lowered expectaions for them in ‘09 as a way to play better and not slack off. I really am worried about Moylan and Soriano the most. They’re so imporatnt for us.

President of Matt Diaz Fan Club

February 27th, 2009
6:37 pm

What does a fan have to do to get a quality picture from spring training: go to Orlando? I’d love to see at least 1 picture from today’s game.

DMBJAMS

February 27th, 2009
6:42 pm

That plucking of Miguel Tejada yesterday by Tommy Hanson, let’s just say some Braves were impressed…..DOB

Did something happen before that to instigate it? Was there bad blood from anything?

Thanks
Matt

csg

February 27th, 2009
6:45 pm

DOB, any word on Chip’s extension?

Original Jon

February 27th, 2009
6:45 pm

DMBJAMS Guess you didnt watch the game yesterday, Roy Oswalt pegged Yunel in the elbow, so Hanson got redemption for his teammate.

keylargo

February 27th, 2009
6:47 pm

DMBJAMS

Escobar was hit an inning before on the elbow. SS for SS.

Steve from OH

February 27th, 2009
6:52 pm

Are you guys trying to bait me again? Luckily for everyone involed, I gave up pontificating for Lent…so you’re on your own BFIR!

Wayne in Utah

February 27th, 2009
6:58 pm

TnBrian

I have never had any illusions that this years Braves would have much of a shot to win it all. My only hopes are that we play competitively, and maybe we get into October.

But, I am an unabashed homer….

Wayne in Utah

February 27th, 2009
7:01 pm

While I take no pleasure in a baseball player getting hit by a pitch, I do love it when a pitcher has his team’s back. (was that statement contradictory??)

Gotta run for a while….later….

Chop Chop

February 27th, 2009
7:02 pm

BFIR,

You need to use your eyes to gaze upon the clutch. The clutch resides in every fiber of David Eckstein’s being. The clutch flows with every beat of Craig Counsell’s heart. The clutch rode shotgun on every batting practice fastball that Sterling Hitchcock threw against our beloved Braves.

Open your eyes and embrace the clutch.

kirkinga

February 27th, 2009
7:10 pm

BravesFanInRockies, good, I’m glad you understood, some here don’t and hold a grudge…lol!

I think we’re close to agreeing actually. I think if I’m reading you right, you don’t like the term or maybe, how the term can be misused or hyped?

That is why I try and be really clear about what I am talking about when I use the term. I think no matter what, we’re talking about how a given players does in a particular set of circumstances and from there we look to see who among that group is the most consistent.

Clutch or no, the Braves must do better in late and close situations and with scoring opportunities in general. Having an improved rotation and a pen that isn’t overly used will help, but they aren’t enough.

The Braves had many winnable games last season, if only someone could’ve gotten a guy over or in. That’s why I think there’s legitimate hope this season. I agree with Lew , that lower expectations are better at this point. I forget the movie, but I think it was Pacino’s character that said “Never let em see you coming”. That should be the Braves this season.

TnBrian

February 27th, 2009
7:13 pm

Wayne, I wasn’t singling you out, I was just both speaking out of frustration on some these jerk-off writers, and agreeing with some of their points at the same time.

Lew

February 27th, 2009
7:13 pm

TnBrian-Dude, I understand your concerns-I just think things will pretty much work out fine-however, like Nathan (N8) and i have said throughout the winter, that if we make our push in 2010, we’ll be happy. AS people are beginning to see with Schafer, Heyward, Hanson and Freeman, we’re good to go in the next year or so.

I think Frenchy will better his 08 performance and return to at least his old form. EVen if he doesn’t though, I think Yunel and KJ are ready to break out and that the pitchers we got over the winter fixed the leaks in the rotation.

As for the pen-Soriano’s injury was weird. Every time he threw a pitch, a nerve snapped over the bone in his elbow, rubbing on a bone spur. Painful. They moved the nerve so it can’t happen again. Even though injured, the Dude has been lights out and now he’s not in pain. He’ll be fine and give a closer option if Gonzo isn’t all there, which I believe he will be. Even if Moylan isn’t ready, we’ve still got Stockman, who is no without options, Marek and Medlen who both can relieve and tons of other guys like Campillo, Carlyle, Bennet, ACosta, Boyer and all those LH dudes they got. We’ll be fine.

I also see the Mets and Phillies having some of their own questions and that doesn’t even take into account whatever may be wrong with Santana’s arm. I just don’t think they’re as strong as many lioke to believe. We’ll see. I’m just not going to worry and most of those guys don’t have a clue, anyway-like the guy Coach was talking about the other night-the one who had Clint Sammons starting in center for us. Yeah. Right.

Steve from OH

February 27th, 2009
7:13 pm

Chop Chop, don’t forget every scrappy, punting-inspired play Darin Erstad has made. A veritable clutchapalooza, everytime the man stepped foot on the field.

Chop Chop

February 27th, 2009
7:14 pm

kirk, I don’t know about you, but I’d settle for a better effort from our starters in Innings 1-6 (and hopefully 7) and take my chances on the “clutch” hitting not being much of a factor in our won-loss record. The more often you’re ahead going into the late innings, the better your chance of winning ballgames without needing those big cats to walk late.

Chop Chop

February 27th, 2009
7:15 pm

As a football player, Darin Erstad was a damn fine punter.

As a baseball player, Darin Erstad is also a damn fine punter.

Chop Chop

February 27th, 2009
7:24 pm

Lew,

The only thing is that a lot of people here seemed to think that same media had a clue last year when everyone was so high on the team. Most of the media types I’ve read this year have the Braves as winning somewhere around 85 games. I actually predicted 85-77 on my own, which means I should probably go beat my head against a wall somewhere until I learn something.

Darin Erstad

February 27th, 2009
7:27 pm

Got me a national championship ring, a World Series ring, money, fame, the womans and sportswriters on my jock while Steve from Ohio and Chop Chop are doing what on this stinky pagina?

Darin Erstad

February 27th, 2009
7:32 pm

Chop Chop, George Will once called me the “Diamond In Orange County”. What’s your momma call you?

kirkinga

February 27th, 2009
7:32 pm

Chop Chop, always enjoy reading what you have to say because you are always rational…lol!

Can we disagree on this one buddy? I understand where you coming from. I get the David Eckstein thing(my eye’s are rolling believe me), but I hope you see how I am trying to limit was is and isn’t clutch, and more importantly tie it to the Braves. Same deal with Erstad and all the so call gritty “dirt” players, but that’s another subject.

I agree with you on a better effort from our starters…and pen. But what I don’t want to see is we get a player, or two on in the 7th, 8th, 9th inning, we’re tied or down 1-2 runs, and nothing happens. Now I know many are going to scream Bobby Cox, but really it comes down to players getting those runs over and in in those late situations.

I like our chances, but I’m going to be looking at June because that is the time when Braves’ teams seem to come alive or die. With Garret Anderson aboard, I think we’ll do better offensively after the 7th. With Norton and Diaz/G. Anderson on the bench, we should be ok there in late situations as Diaz does well with RISP and we know what Norton can do.

So getting ahead and staying ahead is better I agree again, but I think usually it’s the teams that come from behind well that get to the playoffs. I could be wrong though.

TnBrian

February 27th, 2009
7:41 pm

Chop Chop, you were apparantly refering to me when you wrote that a lot of us agreed with the media with their predictions this time a year ago. Well, not this one. I had big concerns with aging,good, but aging pitchers last Feb. This year, I feel that the depth,durability, and talent of our pitchers will eventually give us a 2nd place finish. You can come up with your cute little one liners all night, but I am not defending what these nerdy, know-it-all writers think. I just agree with some of what they say.

flange1

February 27th, 2009
7:43 pm

clutchapalooza

what a great word!!!!

Chop Chop

February 27th, 2009
7:47 pm

My momma calls me your son, Darin Erstad. I shore can kick a ball.

Greg Norton isn’t much of a clutch hitter, kirk. I did some paralysis of analysis on that dude today. He was insanely good in the clutch, outside of tie game situations, in 2008. He won’t do that again for us. Nevertheless, if Norton could produce numbers somewhere between 2008’s Big Papi-like clutch numbers and what he’s put up for the rest of his career, he’d still be quite useful late in ballgames.

(By the way, I’m always right. Ask KC.)

Time to eat. Have a good evening, folks.

Couch Tater

February 27th, 2009
7:50 pm

Wasn’t clutchapalooza a song by Jan & Dean or The Beach Boys?

Chop Chop

February 27th, 2009
7:51 pm

I was referring to an earlier comment made by Lew about what the media said last year, TnBrian. My cute one-liner wasn’t directed toward you. It was directed toward those (I was one of them) who thought that the Braves were a likely favorite in the NL East last year. If you fall into that category, grab a beer and join the club.

ncscoots

February 27th, 2009
7:54 pm

Steve-OH, I’m glad to see you are able to resist the pull of The Dark Side. The “clutch” thread is so, oh, December.

By the way, I’d say Eckstein was less “a clutchapalooza” than “loaded with intangibles”. Sucker was chock full of intangibles.

Somewhat less so with tangibles, maybe, but, hey, that’s some other conversation…

kirkinga

February 27th, 2009
7:55 pm

Greg Norton isn’t much of a clutch hitter, kirk. I did some paralysis of analysis on that dude today.
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Right you are! It was lazy writing on my part. I should’ve said with Norton’s ability to get pinch hits. So including him wasn’t about clutch so much as it was about him being a pinch hit leader.

We’re going to have to replace Gotay’s pinch hits. I don’t think that has been talked about much here, but he and Norton were 1-2 in PH’s last year.

Well, I trust you and KC, so ok there.

ncscoots

February 27th, 2009
7:57 pm

Wasn’t clutchapalooza a song by Jan & Dean or The Beach Boys?

Unfinished tune by Brian Wilson. Was due to be on “Pet Sounds”; master now lies gathering dust.

kirkinga

February 27th, 2009
8:02 pm

The “clutch” thread is so, oh, December.
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Well I didn’t bring it up. But I will admit a weakness for the topic.

Then again, we all have topics we never seem to tire of. I know there are some here that roll their eye’s when the subject is clutch, but boy oh boy, if you bring up certain sabermetrics or certain players, coaches, managers, they get all real excited like. Heck they might even spout off a comment or 100 all night long. :)

flange1

February 27th, 2009
8:05 pm

Scoots, nice 7:57!

Couch Tater

February 27th, 2009
8:09 pm

Brian Wilson wasn’t clutch, I guess.

ease19

February 27th, 2009
8:16 pm

Clutch = Doing the deed at the right place and right time…take it how you want, but that is my opinion only.

ncscoots

February 27th, 2009
8:18 pm

Couch, good one, LOL. Wish I had a followup that was witty enough to compare!

kirk, you got that right. It’s not so much I mind the bees that buzz in our many bonnets, but I will confess to peevishness at the certainty and arrogance of some positions taken…on either side of any question.

Naturally, since I am always right, I have no need to display such certitude, LOL.

TnBrian

February 27th, 2009
8:20 pm

Chop Chop, I’m already at 6 Bud’s and still going!

kirkinga

February 27th, 2009
8:37 pm

ncscoots… I thought Chop Chop was the one that is always right? You mean there can be more than one? :)

I view this time on the blog and us all getting in blog shape for the upcoming season.

Not that I didn’t enjoy the 200, 000 comments about Dunn-Swisher-Nady-Abreu-Ibanez, but it’s nice to have Spring Training to pontificate upon.

Wayne in Utah

February 27th, 2009
8:39 pm

Offer is supposedly off the table for Manny. Come on McCourt, hold your ground. You are bidding against some magical, mystical team from Scott Boras’ imagination.

Drop it to 15 million straight up for one year. If they say no, give Repko a shot in the outfield.

Lew

February 27th, 2009
8:45 pm

ChopChop-Dude, if you really want to go beat your head into a wall, that’s your prerogative. Might give you more of a headache than trying optimism for a change. I mean, really Dude, would it hurt you, or do you just enjoy taking it out on those of us who aren’t doom and gloomers? Lighten up before you blow a blood vessel.

If you’ll remember, we were in it last year despite major injuries right up til the All Star break-then we got mashed by everything that could possibly go wrong. I refuse to take 08 as anything but an aberration -a perfect storm-something I certainly don’t see happening again, especially after the pick ups Wren made this winter.

Whatever. Believe anything that gets you through the night, Buddy.

uga-brave

February 27th, 2009
8:49 pm

clutch? anyone remember that cartoon clutch cargo?

the wife is up at lake burton this weekend with a bunch of her friends, so gonna go get overserved at my favorite establishment.

no i am not going to the pony.

Lew

February 27th, 2009
8:51 pm

And his pals Spinner and Paddlefoot. UGABrave-you’re old like me if you remember that one.

dogsbrekky

February 27th, 2009
8:51 pm

Just back from dinner – word in NY on JOHAN Santana is not good…………

uga-brave

February 27th, 2009
8:52 pm

speaking of athens, LEW, do remember the band PYLON?

SoWeGa Fanatic

February 27th, 2009
9:03 pm

“You need to use your eyes to gaze upon the clutch. The clutch resides in every fiber of David Eckstein’s being. The clutch flows with every beat of Craig Counsell’s heart. The clutch rode shotgun on every batting practice fastball that Sterling Hitchcock threw against our beloved Braves.

Open your eyes and embrace the clutch.”

Actually, the clutch resides to the left of the brake.

winterville

February 27th, 2009
9:03 pm

what are you hearing dogsbrekky?

uga-brave

February 27th, 2009
9:11 pm

i will tell you who is not clutch, the cab i called 40 minutes ago.

ease19

February 27th, 2009
9:13 pm

ANDERS?…ANDERS?…Anyone heard from Anders? Maybe we should put out a missing person’s report, I mean the METS lost and now Johan has turned up lame…ANDERS?

TnBrian

February 27th, 2009
9:26 pm

Anyone want to talk about Dave since he’s out for the night? How about his taste in music and how Huddy made him wet the bed?

Andy K.

February 27th, 2009
9:31 pm

Doesn’t sound good for Santana…could bode well for the Bravos…

President of Matt Diaz Club

February 27th, 2009
9:34 pm

Does anyone know when GA is making his first appearance in a Braves uniform? And forgive me if this has been asked a billion times. (I’m assuming it has)

Random

February 27th, 2009
9:34 pm

Wayne in Utah (4:40 pm): While I would love to see you eat your hat, I have not the time nor the inclination to humor you. Again, Barbara Streisand.

Humor me?

What you mean to say is you are utterly unwilling and completely unable to back up your mouthy mouth with facty facts — “time” and “inclination” got nuthin to do with it.

Show me how Jeter is “clutch”, if you can.

And what in the world do you mean by “Barbara [sic] Streisand”?

President of Matt Diaz Fan Club

February 27th, 2009
9:36 pm

President of Matt Diaz [Fan] Club.

TnBrian

February 27th, 2009
9:39 pm

Lew/Chop Chop, you guys are going to kill me for this, but I just read an article about the Braves and it sounded like we’ve finally found us a ‘09 Braves supporter. That is until the bottom of the page where the guy says we’ll be competetive until the All-Star break and fall because the lack of offense. His prediction-80/82…that’s strike 30!

SoWeGa Fanatic

February 27th, 2009
9:44 pm

“Barbara [sic] Streisand”?
Random, I believe he is saying “B.S.” as in “cow manure”, with a sic caveat for the spelling,FWIW.

Braveheart

February 27th, 2009
9:46 pm

=== i will tell you who is not clutch, the cab i called 40 minutes ago === ugabrave

Sounds more like this cab is a bad leadoff hitter. Fast once he’s on base but he can’t steal first.

PWHjort

February 27th, 2009
9:46 pm

GA is playing Wednesday, right?

President of Matt Diaz Fan Club

February 27th, 2009
9:49 pm

Also, speaking of GA – was there a press-conference? Moreover, has anyone seen a picture of him in a Braves uniform?

Kentavo

February 27th, 2009
9:50 pm

Despite all of the topsy turvy moments of the offseason, I think this team – if it stays healthy – will make a playoff run.
The last couple of times the rotation was revamped (can’t remember exact years) but when Glavine and Maddux left we replaced their spots with veterans (Hampton, Ortiz, Thompson, Byrd), then we got Huddy and shifted Smoltz back to rotation – we made it to postseason. (I realize I’m combining years)
Adding three new starting pitchers is going to be huuuuuuuuge.
And JJ ain’t no slouch.
I’ll reserve judgment on Glavine. But even if he sux or is injured, we’ve got Hanson waiting in the wings, and JoJo, Morton and Parr, too.
I wish we could have snagged a righthanded powerbat, but G. Anderson should still be an upgrade over last year’s woeful outfield.
Anyhow, I think Frenchy and all the other guys are really going to be pushed by knowing that Heyward and Freeman are knocking on the door.

What if Huddy comes back in August, and they use him as closer – ala Smoltzie????

The bench is going to be much better too, with Norton, Infante, Prado, and Ross.

Random

February 27th, 2009
9:53 pm

<strong<uga-brave –

This is my recollection of the evolution/progression of Athens art rock bands:

<strong?The B-52s with we all know who (Fred, Kate, Keith, Cinddy & ricky)

The Tone-Tones with Dana, Theresa(?), Nicky and Vic

Pylon with Vanessa, Michael, Curtis, ???drawing a blank

Athens/Marietta’s Dirt with Murray, David(?), ???drawing a blank

. . .

REM with we all know who (Michael, Pete, etc)

I’ve probably screwed it all up, mixing and mismatching players and bands, and omitting several of each.

Oh, well.

Andy K.

February 27th, 2009
9:53 pm

Kentavodon’t forget G. Anderson/Diaz on the bench….

Random

February 27th, 2009
9:56 pm

SoWeGa Fanatic

Thanks. I’d'a mighta got it after a few more six packs.

Or a lobotomy.

Coach (Skip and Pete will be missed)

February 27th, 2009
9:59 pm

Bobby speak:

“Unless you’re talking about Rickey Henderson or Pete Rose, I don’t think it really matters who you use in the leadoff spot,” Cox said.

Folks, this is the exact type of stinking thinking that drives my crazy.

It’s the same old get on base, put the ball in play and wait for the three run bomb mindset that just kills me. Cox is a damn dinosaur and he is the biggest obstacle holding this team back from accomplishing it’s potential.

David O'Brien

February 27th, 2009
10:02 pm

An out’s an out, and that’s what Francoeur made with the bases loaded today when he grounded to short. That said, if you all had seen how hard he lined a ball not too far foul on a previous pitch in that at-bat … well, let’s just say he wasn’t far at all from having a three-run double.

Let’s see what happens this spring. He said after the game today that he’s going to spread his feet a little bit wider to help more with the balance, and that he already feels like he’s made a lot of progress just since camp opened. He made some solid contact today, really did.

And he’s willing to use this entire spring, if that’s what it takes, to get comfortable with the adjustments he’s made and is making.

It’s a long spring, this one longer than previous years. He’s got a lot of time to get it right, and it sounds like he’s got the right frame of mind. Gonna be interesting to watch.

PWHjort

February 27th, 2009
10:05 pm

DOB, who did the Braves take off the active roster when they signed Garret Anderson.

David O'Brien

February 27th, 2009
10:12 pm

Coach, when Bobby mentioned this morning all the guys who could be candidates to lead off, I got the impression at that time that it was Bobby’s way of making it clear that center-field isn’t going to handed to Josh, his way of keeping others from thinking it’s a decided issue. But it does seem likely it’ll be Josh unless he falls on his face this spring. But with a talent as big as Schafer, you’ve got to keep open the possibility, at least, and that that’s what they’re doing.

If Anderson is the CF, everyone I’ve talked to believes he’d almost certainly be the leadoff guy. But IF he’s not the CF, well, then there are several ways it could go, because there’s just not another obvious guy for the leadoff job, but rather a few who’ve had some past success in the role (K.J., Escobar and Blanco). Bobby’s leaving the door open.

Schafer could handle the role, too, but if he were to somehow win the starting CF job, would they also want to throw him into the leadoff role right away? Don’t know. Again, it seems, at least here at the end of February, that Josh is the leading candidate for the job because he played well late last season, is out of options, and because they’d like Schafer to get a little more Triple-A seasoning.

But a lot can change during the coming weeks. So there’s no sense making that decision now, which is why Bobby’s not making it yet.

Much like his decision on where to hit G. Anderson. I asked him about that today, and Bobby said he really wants to see the team play this spring, see Garret play, see who wins the leadoff job, and then just figure out how it all fits together best.

Bobby was asked how many games he might play Garret, and he said it could be 140, or 130, or 150….

President of DOB Club

February 27th, 2009
10:14 pm

DOB – when is GA playing?

David O'Brien

February 27th, 2009
10:18 pm

PWH, as we’ve said quite a few times: Hudson was moved to the 60-day DL. That opened a spot. Glavine’s contract hasn’t tecnically been filed yet, and might not be until he reports next week. Whenever it’s filed, that when they’ll have to make another roster move.

David O'Brien

February 27th, 2009
10:19 pm

President: Bobby said a couple days ago that GA would likely start playing early to middle of next week.

Mitchie-san

February 27th, 2009
10:21 pm

DOB, what is Glavine doing as far as working out? Couldnt he just report to Spring Training and work out there? Why is his contract not filed yet?

Sorry for so many questions….

PWHjort

February 27th, 2009
10:22 pm

I thought Hudson’s DL spot opened one up for Glavine, my mistake. Any speculation as to who they might take off the roster to make a spot for Glavine?

Mitchie-san

February 27th, 2009
10:24 pm

DOB, I would suggest who was going to get cut, if I were you…. ;)

Mitchie-san

February 27th, 2009
10:24 pm

PTBNL

February 27th, 2009
10:32 pm

David, I have asked this before but did not see an answer to it. So if you have answered this before, please forgive the repeated question.

Have you been able to determine the reason J. Anderson did not participate in Winter ball? It seems that that may also weigh in the equation.

Eric B

February 27th, 2009
10:42 pm

So DOB, in an obviously limited time, who has suprised you thus far with their performance ?

will

February 27th, 2009
10:54 pm

Quick question for anyone with knowledge but will be attending my first spring training games in a week and was looking for some pointers on getting some autographs

Andrew

February 27th, 2009
10:54 pm

i just like the fact the jeffery walked twice today..am i reading that right?

PWHjort

February 27th, 2009
10:57 pm

Just because someone is removed from the 40 man roster doesn’t necessarily make them “cut”. Though I’m pretty sure there’s no non-rule-5 eligible people on the roster so it would result in their being placed on waivers.

Satan

February 27th, 2009
11:08 pm

jeffery walked twice today..am i reading that right? -Andrew

That’s correct. Do y’all feel a chill in here?

Chop Chop

February 27th, 2009
11:13 pm

Dude might be right, TnBrian. It wouldn’t shock me to see the Braves win anywhere from 80-90 games.

Lew,

I’m quite capable of being amused by my stupidity, so I would love to see the Braves kick ass in 2009. I mean, seriously, if the Braves wanna step up and take me on a crazy World Series run, I’m all for it. I just ain’t gonna get all gushy about their chances right now.

The only teams I’m drinking the Kool-Aid for in 2009 are the Falcons and the Dawgs.

nolie

February 27th, 2009
11:17 pm

We know Garret Anderson’s track record is that he performs better in certain “crucial and important” situations than many other players. We know he’s done this over some 15 seasons, that seems as close to repetitious and consistent as you can get in baseball. KIRK

what we “know” is that Garret’s clutch stats are exactly like his career stats. He is consistent but not really any better than he is the rest of the time. In a 15 year career his “clutch” stats are indistinguishable from his mean.Which speaks to the theory that “clutch” is not sustainable above your normal production. Francy had two years when he was better in the clutch and one year when he was worse in the clutch, which is why so many are worried that he will continue his inconsistency. I think his overall hitting will bounce back some this season, but none of us have any idea how he will produce in clutch situations. We can hope for the best though.

PWHjort

February 27th, 2009
11:18 pm

The Falcons are going to have a tougher schedule in 2009, but I think they’ll do well. In PECOTA and CHONE the Braves are projected to be either right at, or in the playoffs. Hopefully the latter comes true.

that's what I heard...........

February 27th, 2009
11:19 pm

Tommy G will be gone b4 the allstar break. new kids will take over, and Tommy G will graciously bow out.

Bubdylan

February 27th, 2009
11:21 pm

Nolie, I don’t know much about this subject, but it does seem pretty clutch to be able to hit as well as you normally do with the game on the line.

i cant take it anymore

February 27th, 2009
11:24 pm

with all the stuff that went on this winter, Im really glad kj is still on the team. I think we got a shot, guys. A few “ifs”, but doesn’t everyone. David…thanks for the killer blog, man. Like you said about frenchy, its going to be interesting.

Bubdylan

February 27th, 2009
11:25 pm

Nolie, on second thought… nevermind. Not sure I’m lucid enough tonight to order a cheeseburger. Three midterms in the next five days. Braindead.

i cant take it anymore

February 27th, 2009
11:32 pm

bubdylan

had midterms this week, man. I feel you. papers, tests, papers, tests….uhhhh. I’m was going to try and relax this weekend, but now Im dog sitting a 7 month old golden retriever that wont stop harassin my two dogs. the beer aint cutting it

Chop Chop

February 27th, 2009
11:35 pm

I had a midterm today, Bubdylan. Online, though. I’m taking a math class online as well (it’s a required class and that was the only way I could get in it). I love math. I have a B in it. I think my teacher’s grading on a curve. Too bad she ain’t curvy.

Anyway, I also think it’s pretty clutch to be able to produce normally in pressure situations. It just depends on what your norm is. If your Norm is always drinking at the bar, then damning the torpedoes and throwing back another cold one from time to time makes you clutch. Just watch out for know-it-all mailmen who won’t shut up.

Bubdylan

February 27th, 2009
11:36 pm

130 + games for GA? Poor Diaz. Seems like he doesn’t get much of a shake compared with his great work ethic and possible production.

Wayne in Utah

February 27th, 2009
11:37 pm

Random

Go to CBSSportsline.com and to Derek Jeter’s stat page. Click on his situational stats.

I am sure you will dig deep enough to eventually prove me wrong, but in 2008, he looked pretty clutch to me.

What the heck. There is no clutch. Manny is a great guy, and a fantastic teammate. Babe Ruth sucked, as did Curt Flood and Joltin’ Joe.

There, you feel better now?

G’nite….

Chop Chop

February 27th, 2009
11:37 pm

Any of you join that Facebook group?

MIBravesFan

February 27th, 2009
11:38 pm

DOB, if you were looking for one song to add when burning a CD, what would it be? I’m looking for ideas so I’m leaving the question that wide open.

nolie

February 27th, 2009
11:41 pm

f Brandon Jones shows off big time this spring, who will be threatened the most? Garret A or Frenchy? WAYNE

Neither one. both are gonna start the season in Atl barring an injury or total collapse If a total collapse occurs then that is the guy who will be most threatened. Never know until it happens but I’m thinking it will take a major event for the OF not to be Anderson,Anderson,Francy and Diaz Infante can give Josh a day off once in awhile. In case he falters or gets hurt Schafer is waiting in AAA.

Bubdylan

February 27th, 2009
11:42 pm

i can’t take it anymore, I was going to say “you’re giving the dog beer?” as a joke… then it occured to me you might have meant exactly that…

Chop Chop, norm pun = solid.

NotForMe

February 27th, 2009
11:48 pm

it’s amateur day here on the ole blog. WIU

I already noticed that you were posting

CharlieAlphaBravo

February 27th, 2009
11:59 pm

Now that most of the kinks have been ironed out, I’ve gotta say this is a pretty smooth new blog format.

It’s especially nice for people like me, “ye of little RAM Memory.” i can actually watch porn while I read the blog now. Just takes a little longer to type…

uga-brave

February 28th, 2009
12:34 am

bubdylan,

you out there man, you and bay area steve have talent my man.

i cant take it anymore

February 28th, 2009
12:49 am

he went to sleep…but my beer’s gone.

i cant take it anymore

February 28th, 2009
12:50 am

bubdylan…nice one.

uga-brave

February 28th, 2009
12:50 am

nolie

February 28th, 2009
1:00 am

BUB-stats guys see it mostly in terms of sample size. Anything can happen in any given period. Chipper can hit .364 in one 500 AB collection of data and .249 in another. I wasn’t saying that it completely disproves clutch just that GA’s stats are what a stat-guy would predict. A larger sample size has disappeared into his very own mean. We can’t really prove anything except what has already happened, obviously. As predictors stats are essentially odds and although it’s nice to think we have the best odds, basically anything can happen and does often enough to keep us fascinated with the game. It’s why I love it so much cause no matter how much I think I know from experience & observation and math, something unexpected always comes up. :)

Bobby's Belly

February 28th, 2009
1:03 am

Painting all day. What’s the latest on the CF situation. Who played today? Who looked good? Anybody at today’s game?

TnBrian

February 28th, 2009
1:06 am

Charlie, you’re one sick perv!

Me and my girlfriend just watched Gran Torino on DVD. My mom’s friend burned it off the internet, I guess. It’s the kind of movie you can watch over and over and still laugh your ass off and wonder how Eastwood could have ever been so fu– halarious! DOB was right on with this movie.

TnBrian

February 28th, 2009
1:09 am

Some of you people and your stats. Damn, the hitter just needs to get the runner over and the next one drives him in. It doesn’t have to be so complicated…NERDY STYLE

uga-brave

February 28th, 2009
1:11 am

it is hard to believe, andruw has had seven at bats for the rangers and has struck out six times.

never understood the blog hatred for him. the guy basicaly carried us into the playoffs in his 50 homerun year.

i will forever be a andruw fan, say what you want but dont try to tell me he was not one of the best braves of all time.

for all of you that compare andruw to the french you are wrong.

until francoeur ever approaches anything that druw did you dont get it.

10 plus pretty damn or better then good years.

time to appreciate him, instead of giving him crap all the time.

Chop Chop

February 28th, 2009
1:43 am

Sure, uga-brave. If we hold Andruw responsible for not carrying the Braves to a World Series title during his long tenure in Atlanta, what about Chipper? He was a rook when the Braves got the brass ring. My guess is that folks like the saintly Chipper and that fat, lazy, no-good Andruw weren’t exactly holding the Braves back all those years.

I found this on the Dallas Morning News:

The Jones plan

Andruw Jones started in center field, his first start this spring in his bid to resurrect his career. Jones looked fine defensively, but his struggles continued at the plate.

He struck out in his first six at-bats before reaching on an infield single.

Jones could get another start today. Josh Hamilton won’t be with the Rangers when they make their first spring road trip to Tucson to play the Arizona Diamondbacks.

“I’m trying to get him as many opportunities to get out on the field as I possibly can,” manager Ron Washington said.

Washington was well aware of Jones’ numbers after three Cactus League games but said the one hit could be the start of something.

“The only thing that really matters is he got his base hit,” Washington said. “Once you finally get that first knock out of the way, it’s downhill from there. He’ll be fine.”

N Nine (eta35)

February 28th, 2009
1:44 am

At this pace Andruw will be a free mann soon and we cann sign him….or not

Ya I like the guy too

looks like that highly talented hitting coach has Andruw even more confused..poor guy

Wayne in Utah

February 28th, 2009
2:28 am

uga (did that cabbie do you right tonight???)

You are right on about Andruw. I was very critical of him his last year and a half here, and hoped he wouldnt be offered a contract this year, as I was afraid Bobby would have a love fest for him, even if he didn’t get it together.

but, the man gave us a lot of thrills in the field and with the bat for a long time.

I really don’t think he’s a bad sort, just a bit confused, and brutally stubborn. I hope he is able to pull it together (in the AL).

About Frenchy, I agree he is not in the AJ class yet, maybe never will be. But, he can be a decent to strong contributor if he is able to learn from those around him and put all his $hit in one sock.

Now, I am REALLY hoping that happens.

Nite folks….

Wayne in Utah

February 28th, 2009
2:29 am

It sounds like Ron Washington learned from the Bobby Cox school of interpersonal relationships.

uga-brave

February 28th, 2009
2:55 am

chop chop,

how in the world, dont get it.

andruw played everday for us, never was on the DL.

played the best cf in baseball.

so now all of you super smart people want to give him crap?

riddle me this who was better in center from 97 til now. or would of you of wanted?

the fact that # 25 does not get his due here is a shame.

sure he might be lost now, but to compare him to francoeur is a insult.

wake me up when francoeur hits 370 homeruns for the braves.

uga-brave

February 28th, 2009
3:06 am

wayne,

i think the braves have a shot this year, BUT then again in the late innings they will be very left handed.

opposing teams will have somewhat of an advantage.

garrett anderson, b macc, kelly, kotchman, whoever is in center, and hoss who is better from the left side.

left handed relievers might give us a small problem.

Runnin

February 28th, 2009
3:26 am

The only people who may give Druw some hate are Dodger fans. I think most all of Bravesnation loves him but many just realize that for whatever reason he’s let his game slide bigtime. When GMs would rather have guys like Blanco and Willie Harris over you, you’re in trouble. And that’s not bashing him, it’s just the reality of where Druw’s career currently is.

PWHjort

February 28th, 2009
4:41 am

I don’t think Andruw hit that one really well if it was an infield single.

David O'Brien

February 28th, 2009
4:43 am

MIBravesFan: Maybe Steve Earle’s “Fort Worth Blues” or the Clash’s “The Card Cheat,” or James Brown’s “The Big Payback.” Wait, maybe the Replacements’ “The Ledge,” or Elvis’ “Kentucky Rain,” or Marvin Gaye’s “Got To Give It Up.” Or how ’bout George Jones’ “Choices,” or the Clash’s “Death or Glory,” or Lucinda Williams’ “Drunken Angel” or “Metal Firecracker”? Or maybe John Lee Hooker’s “Boogie Chillen” or Dwight Yoakam’s “A Thousand Miles From Nowhere,” or Waylon Jennings’ “Lonesome, On’ry and Mean,” or … OK, see what you started?

David O'Brien

February 28th, 2009
4:47 am

Nice to meet FlBravesGirl and her pops Friday at the ‘yard in Bradenton. And pretty cool seeing a bunch of your pictures on that site that Run Heap Run set up. Thanks, Amanda….

David O'Brien

February 28th, 2009
4:48 am

Some of your comments have been getting held up because they had multiple links, which is one of the red-flag things in this software. I just changed the setting to allow two links without them getting held up, so that should help.

David O'Brien

February 28th, 2009
7:13 am

I guess I was the only one up at 5 a.m. in any state to comment, huh? But it’s 7:30 now. Let’s go, folks. What do you think this is, the weekend or something?

Billy

February 28th, 2009
7:14 am

Play by play was wrong. Josh Anderson was in CF.Garret Anderson has not played as of yet.

gibby

February 28th, 2009
7:17 am

Sorry DOB I had to get caught up on what everyone was saying all night.

Gibby

February 28th, 2009
7:20 am

I am glad to see a few guys come out defending Andruw finally. I miss seeing him in a Braves uniform, but I readily admit now he is looking done. I really wish him the best and I do hope he can turn it around. He was the best for a long time

David O'Brien

February 28th, 2009
7:27 am

Billy, I think most here realized that, especially after I told them again during game that G. Anderson is not playing until sometime next week.

Rodney Derrick

February 28th, 2009
7:30 am

Good morning DOB. Glad you are up early. Like some others, I hope for the best for Andruw. Glad he got a hit yesterday. And a word for Chop Chop, who has the prestige of being a recognized blogger by the AJC– it is ok to hate the Yankees, and I certainly do not wish success for them either, but to say that you want to see Tex injured is unpardonable. Not only that but wishing bad things to happen to others potentially creates bad karma for those for whom you wish the best. Now you are not the only one guilty of this in blog land, but this is a clear example and one you and others should avoid in the future.

Gibby

February 28th, 2009
7:32 am

Being a big Fan of Francouer’s, I am hoping his confidence is staying high. Is he seeing the same thing you are that he is close to getting comfortable with thte new stance?

Billy

February 28th, 2009
7:33 am

DOB Yeah, not use to this new format yet. When I logged on it opened at the beginning of the blog and I was thinking it would open at the end of the blog. After I submitted my post I realized none of the other posts that I originally saw were there anymore. I figured it out, but too late, I couldn’t edit my post or delete it.

David O'Brien

February 28th, 2009
7:34 am

Rodney: Agreed. Wishing injury upon others, bad form.

Got another drive over to the west side of the state this morning (wish i’d just gotten a room at a cheap motel there last night instead of driving back-and-forth on I-4).

David O'Brien

February 28th, 2009
7:37 am

Billy: That’s cool. It is confusing initially, no doubt. Not perfect system, but at least it shouldn’t crash (we hope) and doesn’t require deleting posts to keep it from slowing down all the other AJC blogs. So we’ll make the best of it. And it doesn’t seem to have hurt the conversation flow at all the past few days. The no-delay is a huge plus.

Oldbravesbag

February 28th, 2009
7:49 am

Does it mean anything that Washington said it will be “downhill from there” instead of “uphill” for Andruw? I hope it is uphill…but Andruw is so stubborn.

George Lombard

February 28th, 2009
7:50 am

Booker T & Drive By Truckers @ Variety on 4/1

damn, Hanson looked good the other day. did not realize the dude was 6′6.

Billy

February 28th, 2009
7:50 am

DOB check out Sea Sea Riders Restaurant In Dunedin on Main St if you have not already. It is easy to find on Alt-19, just half a block from the Dunedin Marina. It is a lunch and dinner place you will remember for awhile

Varsity Chili Dogg

February 28th, 2009
7:50 am

DOB-
Have you had a chance to ask Yunel about all the trade talks involving him this winter? Since Brayan is gone, who does he hang around the most? Hopefully someone who won’t get cut.

David O'Brien

February 28th, 2009
7:51 am

Billy, thanks for the rec. Might have to do that before I leave there tonight.

Oldbravesbag

February 28th, 2009
7:51 am

Dave, I asked this yesterday and maybe you don’t want to answer..which is cool. But maybe you missed it….. :) I was wondering if most of the wives are down here for spring training and do they watch any of the practices? Games?

Voice of Reality

February 28th, 2009
8:03 am

So DOB when do you sleep?

Couch Tater

February 28th, 2009
8:03 am

DOB,

World Baseball Classic after this year: Growing or gruelling?

Cunning Stunt

February 28th, 2009
8:04 am

DOB,

based on what you saw yesterday is K-san about what you expected, better than advertised or still undetermined?

indybrave

February 28th, 2009
8:19 am

DOB,
Gwinett is coming to Indianapolis in the middle of June. Do you think that there is any chance of seeing Schafer or Hanson when they come? Not too many Braves fans up this way so may be able to get some autographs.

TommyP

February 28th, 2009
8:26 am

Maybe it’s me but I’m not sure I “get” the Mennonite story. I kind of don’t get the Kawakami snippet, either. LOL

Anyone else prefer the old blog format?

PABravefan

February 28th, 2009
8:27 am

DOB, I sorta like the pagination! Went to bed last night on Page 14. It makes it so much easier to know exactly where to pick back up this morning. Also, how do you survive with such little sleep? :-)

George Lombard

February 28th, 2009
8:40 am

listening to the Possum on a rainy sat. morning is sad in a good way. The Grand Tour is a classic album…

NEW CARS (FORMERLY USED CARS)

February 28th, 2009
8:56 am

DOB,

It’s early in camp I know. But do you feel like between the vets and young guys that the Braves have more quality depth in arms than they have had in a long time. Do you think Freeman and Heyward start in MB this year. Also, is Marek going to be pitching in the big camp. It’s my birthday and I’m working, so be nice.

Run Heap Run

February 28th, 2009
9:23 am

It makes me furious when I wake up at 7 A.M. on a Saturday and can’t go back to sleep….but my daughter is home from school to collect birthday gifts (read: money) so I guess I can get a head start before she wakes up… in about 4-5 hours ha.

Hey David, I love facebook and the group is fun, no thanks needed. I’m just glad you were alright with it. I’d been thinking about doing it for a few weeks..Yesterday when Lew sent me some of his art to put on there the mom of one of my childhood friends saw on my wall or newsfeed or whatever that is that tells everyone what you do that I added the pictures and she sent me a message asking me who Lew was because she knows most everyone I know. It was funny to tell her ‘oh I don’t know Lew, he’s just some married guy from Vermont that I talk to online sometimes’

Good point about the pagination allowing you to go back to where you last read, PABravefan..I have definitely been using it for that.

Mennonites at a truck stop? What’s not to get? :D

I know you are asked this often, but any word on the Hoss contract negotiations?

i cant take it anymore

February 28th, 2009
9:34 am

DOG MEAT FOR SALE!
fresh dog meat for free! tender, juicy and only from a seventh moth old retriever.

Taylor

February 28th, 2009
9:36 am

Hey DOB,

I know there was a DH against the Pirates yesterday, but what is the scouting report on Kawakami at the plate? Did he hit any during his years in Japan? If so, what kind of hitter are we looking at, a Mike Hampton or otherwise?

Dadgum

February 28th, 2009
9:36 am

OK, figures I get real busy right when Grapefruit games start. Good to see the Braves come out on top mostly. Have not scrolled back yet to see all the comments but from what I can see Francouer is slow out of the gate and Hanson looked intimidating. Looks like Kawakami is the real deal as well albeit in a ST game with mostly fastballs I guess.

Anyway, heading to The National in Richmond tonight to see Zoso (Zeppelin tribute band). I know I know can’t believe I am doing it but from all reports they are worth every cent. Gonna hit Penny Lane Pub (must do in downtown)for a couple pints after show.

DOB….gotta CD for ya to listen to. Respect your musical tastes. Fresh release and new band. Will get with you when I get it.

Rock on……Buckhead Buggah

DiamondbackMac

February 28th, 2009
9:39 am

DOB

Several years ago while working in Yankeetown, FL I had the good fortune to find what became one of my top five restaurants. It’s the “Compleat Angler Restaurant” located in Yankeetown inside the Izaac Walton Lodge. (1 63rd St. Yankeetown, FL, Ph (352) 447-2311) It’s on the bank of the Withlacoochee river just off Hwy 40 W. If you should ever get a chance to get over there I guarantee you won’t be disappointed in the food, service, or view of the river. You might even want to stop at “Our Pub” on Hwy. 40 W. I just wish I didn’t live 350 miles away and could get down there more often.

DiamondbackMac

February 28th, 2009
9:41 am

DOB

I forgot to tell you that you should call for reservations. A lot of people drive up from Tampa to eat there.

TnBrian

February 28th, 2009
9:43 am

Run Heap, take some NyQuil. You shouldn’t have to suffer through another day of irritability and yawning because the lack of sleep. If the NyQuil doesn’t work, take a Xanex or three.

Run Heap Run

February 28th, 2009
9:47 am

Ha! I don’t really get irritable and definitely not on my daughters birthday but I do stay up very late every night and get up for work at 5 am M-F so yeah I like to sleep in on Saturdays if possible!

braves4ever

February 28th, 2009
9:49 am

Run Heap Run , The new FaceBook page looks interesting, I have never had a page on there, my Kids have used it 3-4 years. I just don’t see myself having the time to do a page and update it dailey ,as it seems to be a must for my teenagers.whew my days keep getting filled (I have 2 that play baseball,and I coach too) to the brim. But then I find myself on the blog ,working, on-phone,bloging ,etc for hours, go figure. Anyway looks good keep the denzies hooked maybe I will find time to post.
I too would like know about Chiper’s contract, should be close.
David, did Esco say anything to Hanson in the way of thanks for being there the other day?

Random

February 28th, 2009
9:56 am

Found this absolutely hilarious comment on Chop Chick’s blog right after Junior decided to take his balls and go “home”:

By Palin
February 19, 2009 4:40 PM | Link to this
Now I can see Griffey from my front yard.

Now THAT’s “Laugh Out Loud”!!!

Also, santa3247 is alive and ill with the Chop Chick – he’s apparently been wintering there all off-season.

Southern Bones

February 28th, 2009
9:56 am

what is pagination and how does it work? thx

YoungBuck

February 28th, 2009
9:56 am

DOB Do you (or anyone) know if there has there been a radio schedule release for the spring games?

Run Heap Run

February 28th, 2009
9:58 am

Yeah my daughter scoffs at “old people” using facebook but it seems like most everyone I knew in high school and college uses it and after about 6 people emailed me inviting me to use it I finally broke down and checked it out. You don’t really have to update it daily, I don’t, and having an app on my phone that goes straight into it without having to log in is something that I use when I’ve got time to kill while waiting for an appointment, or a class to start, or a baseball game to start, etc.

TEC

February 28th, 2009
10:00 am

Is there a TV schedule anywhere. I live in Texas and have to work hard to see the team

Run Heap Run

February 28th, 2009
10:01 am

Random

February 28th, 2009
10:02 am

Taylor (9:36 am): ”I know there was a DH against the Pirates yesterday, but what is the scouting report on Kawakami at the plate? Did he hit any during his years in Japan? If so, what kind of hitter are we looking at, a Mike Hampton or otherwise?”

Otherwise, I’m afraid — 川上 is no Mike Hampton.

Here is 川上’s Player Page on http://www.japanesebaseball.com.

378 Pas, 342 Abs, 55 Hs, 5 HRs,18 RBIs, 28 SacBunts, 0 SacFlies, 8 GIDPs, 139 Ks, 8 BBs, 0 SBs, .161/.180/.231

PS: I posted some BP analysis of 川上 back on page 2.

braves4ever

February 28th, 2009
10:06 am

YoungBuck this link should take you to the schedule
http://atlanta.braves.mlb.com/schedule/broadcast.jsp?c_id=atl

nashbrave

February 28th, 2009
10:11 am

What is the link to Obrien’s facebook page? Thanks

braves4ever

February 28th, 2009
10:12 am

Sometimes this Page-of-a-Braves-Nation doesn’t load up fully?

Doc Holiday

February 28th, 2009
10:13 am

“Unless you’re talking about Rickey Henderson or Pete Rose, I don’t think it really matters who you use in the leadoff spot,” Cox said.

That explains a lot of our past failures to win some more rings…….airhead

Southern Bones

February 28th, 2009
10:17 am

Yeah a leadoff hitter only leads off one time a game. The cleanup hitter leads off alot when the 1st inning goes 1-2-3

BravesAc

February 28th, 2009
10:34 am

DOB
Saw something about Neko Case on NPR and due to this blog I gave it a look. Good stuff. They had a taste of Bishop Allen’s Grrr and something from Small Sins new cd as well )mood Swings) and for a guy who hadn’t bought anything since Van Morrison I was so impressed Ibought the 3 cds )preordered the BA – it comes out in Mar). Even the wife, and we’re both on the wrong side of 50, though she looks a damn sight better than me -loved the music. So thanks to the blog.

And what a boost it would be if Hanson and our first Japenese import worked out well this summer. If Glavine can turn back the clock and add to the turnaround, 90 wins sure would seem attainable…especially if the Braves are in contention at the trade deadline and they can pick up a good bat dueto the economic dump of some team.

John Adcox

February 28th, 2009
10:37 am

What’s the name f the Facebook group? I couldn’t find it, alas. Thanks for setting it up!

David O'Brien

February 28th, 2009
10:39 am

Those of you who’ve asked about the TV and radio schedules, all that stuff and a whole lot more is in the spring training guide that our people put together. It’s on the website on the Braves page.

Here’s the Braves schedule from that guide:

http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/sports/braves/stories/2009/02/10/atlanta_braves_spring_schedule.html

braves4ever

February 28th, 2009
10:40 am

John Adcox, Run Heap Run set it up and its growing this is the page
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=53472692450&ref=share

David O'Brien

February 28th, 2009
10:42 am

Here at Dunedin, at a ballpark that’s as old and small as Kissimmee (Astros), plucked right in the middle of a residential neighborhood. So small, you pay $10 to park even if you’re a media member.

Must get crazy over here when Yankees and the A-Rod circus are in town….

brent a.

February 28th, 2009
10:44 am

Got to attend this one yesterday. Nice atmosphere at the Pirates’ spring home in Bradenton.

Kawakami was effective. Hard to tell if he was brilliant, or not. Only one pitch that jumped right out as looking “different”, a breaking pitch that broke over the batter’s head.

Aside from that, I only remember one, really hard hit ball in two innings, the lead-off hitter shooting one to Freeman at first base.

Speaking of Freeman, the guy does not really look like an athlete. He’s a big, lumbering dude; but, he looked solid at first base. Fielding a couple of sharply hit balls.

Speaking of first base, got a good glimpse of today of why Martin Prado is not a first baseman. In the inning that Kris Medlen was pitching, Prado had to come off the bag for a high throw, which allowed the inning to extend. Medlen then walked another (his 2nd walk of the inning), to load the bases before finally retiring the side.
If Freeman had been at 1B, then he catches that ball without coming off the bag, and the inning was over.

Jason Heyward is a site to behold. It was fun watching him and Schafer go into the cage and hit bombs back 2 back. And the single Heyward hit in the 1st inning, was crushed, as well. The kid is scary.

Aside from that, the 2nd catcher, Codina (sp.), he definitely has some pop in his bat. Hit a couple of shots during BP, and the base hit he got in the game was also a hard hit ball. Not sure what his major offensive weaknesses are, but he can definitely hit fastballs.

Diaz, of course, is thinner, but he was unproductive offensively.

And, Francoeur, I certainly wish there was something I could say, but I can’t. He did draw a 5 pitch walk, which was different compared to his approach in 2005. Also, he came up once with the bases loaded, and actually hit one ball quite hard, but foul down the 3B line.
Then, he proceeded to ground out.

Fun time. Most of the Braves looked good. Chipper hit a bomb.

Oh, and Greg Norton, so glad to have him back. It’s rare it seems, for the Braves to keep a “good” pinch-hitter for a second year, but we’ve got Norton, and he can hit.

flbravesgirl

February 28th, 2009
10:50 am

Huh? My pics are on Facebook? Not sure how they got there or even where “there” is.

John Adcox

February 28th, 2009
10:52 am

braves4ever, thanks. I am al signed up.

Anthony

February 28th, 2009
10:52 am

DOB, how long do you think Glavine will be in the rotation this year (assuming no injuries), if Hanson is as good as people think he is going to be, the Braves can only keep him in the minors for so long.

DiamondbackMac

February 28th, 2009
10:52 am

DOB

If you saw this earlier on page 16 please forgive the repost.

Several years ago while working in Yankeetown, FL I had the good fortune to find what became one of my top five restaurants. It’s the “Compleat Angler Restaurant” located in Yankeetown inside the Izaac Walton Lodge. (1 63rd St. Yankeetown, FL, Ph (352) 447-2311) It’s on the bank of the Withlacoochee river just off Hwy 40 W. If you should ever get a chance to get over there I guarantee you won’t be disappointed in the food, service, or view of the river. You might even want to stop at “Our Pub” on Hwy. 40 W. I just wish I didn’t live 350 miles away and could get down there more often. Call ahead for reservations. Many of people driver up from Tampa to eat there which make weekend reservations difficult at times.

David O'Brien

February 28th, 2009
10:55 am

NewCars: Definitely seem to have a lot more pitching depth, and quality depth, than in a long time. I can’t see Heyward in majors this season, barring a rash of injuries and an unbelievable season by him. I mean, the kid’s 19 and has played two weeks above low-A (and none above high-A).

Schafer, i think we’ll see by early summer. But just speculation….

Cunning Stunt: Honestly, I’d have to say better than expected. But it was just two innings, so tough to draw any conclusions, other than, he’s certainly a good pitcher. How good, we’ll see. But that curveball is outstanding, and he throws a little harder than I thought. And locates well and uses both sides of the plate, even this early….

Taylor, haven’t seen him hit yet, but I’m told he was an outstanding hitter in Japan. Don’t know if he has Mike Hampton-type power at the plate (doubtful), but those who’ve seen him say he can hit….

patrocket

February 28th, 2009
10:56 am

Dave, are they high on Medlen as a starter or reliever? Is he going to start or relieve at Gwinett?

David O'Brien

February 28th, 2009
10:57 am

NewCars: Just noticed it was Freeman you asked about, not Schafer. My bad. Freeman hasn’t played above low-A (Rome). he’s 19. Braves have a good first baseman. Can’t see Freeman here this season.

cricket

February 28th, 2009
11:06 am

Run Heap Run,
Sorry, I must’ve missed it. What is the facebook group you set up?

chixluvthebraves2

February 28th, 2009
11:07 am

Good morning everyone,

DOB, random question. Pretending we are not an injury jinxed team and all 5 of our starters stay healthy and pitch well through August. Then, Tim Hudson comes back. Who gets the boot???

bravesfan

February 28th, 2009
11:13 am

Yeah-What about Medlen?I heard he as some good stuff! Possibly one to look out for in the future? I enjoyed watching him and Redmond pitch yest.

Danga

February 28th, 2009
11:15 am

Lew…Just looking at some of your drawings there on the facebook page. That is some nice work.

Danga

February 28th, 2009
11:16 am

cricket

February 28th, 2009
11:19 am

Thanks, Danga.

new cars

February 28th, 2009
11:38 am

DOB, Meant Myrtle Beach, not major league…Sorry thought you had the decoder ring on…Just wondered if you thought if they would jump to Mississipi at some point

jcfromut

February 28th, 2009
11:39 am

DOB: Sorry if this has been asked and I missed it (whichI am sure it was), but who was moved from the 40 man with the Glavine and Anderson signings?

Danga

February 28th, 2009
11:44 am

jcfromut…According to DOB, the Hudson the the 60 day dl move cleared room for G. Anderson. Glavine’s contract has not been officially filed yet (waiting since he doesn’t report till later), so they have not made that move yet.

jcfromut

February 28th, 2009
11:47 am

Danga: Thank you for the info.

mustrdgasnroses

February 28th, 2009
11:49 am

jcformut:
They placed Hudson on the 60 day DL for the Anderson signing, and they haven’t officially filed the Glavine signing yet.

richbrave

February 28th, 2009
11:57 am

Almost no love for KAWAKAMI and the BRAVES on sports shows this morning. And of course the paper’s banned coverage on the BRAVES as you might imagine. But I’m not at all surprised by Mr. K’s performance. These JAPANESE guys are SERIOUS about their baseball, and though approaching old by AMERICAN standards, KAWAKAMI’s in his prime measured by JAPANESE chronology. So I’m curious to see how things are for KEN K the third time through the NL EAST. Will they have figured out his “JUNK” by then as they have with CAMPILLO, or will he adapt and overcome? And his pitches are of excellent quality, but he doesn’t have a high-velocity fastball. That’s the only reason I use the term “junk.” Like in GREG MADDUX “junk.”

18 Wheels of Love

February 28th, 2009
11:58 am

DOB on Facebook? Oh my! Now you can keep up with all those long lost high school acquaintances and see all of their kids and just how fat they all have become since the last time you saw them. Awesome!

GAPeach

February 28th, 2009
12:03 pm

DOB- I really enjoyed the daily pics. Can you bring them back?

richbrave

February 28th, 2009
12:06 pm

DUNEDIN:

Have a good friend and former work associate retired and living in DUNEDIN. Lovely neighborhood.

Doc Holiday

February 28th, 2009
12:29 pm

Johan Santana behind schedule with soreness in his pitching elbow. He had a knee operation last fall. They say it is not bad. I just take a deep breath when one of the Braves pitchers have a flu. Wonder how are the mut fans feeling as they are taking kind of a scare there.

Random

February 28th, 2009
12:30 pm

YOUR VIEW

Which Brave are you most excited to see this spring?

My long-term objective is to push Javier Vazquez into double digits. Currently he has pulled in all of 80 votes.

Out of 5,056.

My short-term objective is to vote for Javier Vazquez in half an hour.

David O'Brien

February 28th, 2009
12:30 pm

18 Wheels: To be clear, I had nothing to do with setting up a Facebook site. Nothing. Didn’t even know about it until after folks here mentioned.

Not being critical or anthing, not at all. Just saying, it’s not something I was a part of setting up.

TnBrian

February 28th, 2009
12:32 pm

Is the game today on ESPN?

Doc Holiday

February 28th, 2009
12:35 pm

Got to wonder, if JF finishes ST hitting below .200, would Cox hit him above the 8th slot anyways?

N Nine (eta35)

February 28th, 2009
12:39 pm

Frenchy did have that epic 5 pitch walk with no swings! strike up the Frenchy-delta commercials again….

Doc Holiday

February 28th, 2009
12:39 pm

Enter your comments here

KC

February 28th, 2009
12:43 pm

I’m optimistic about the ‘09 season, but I hope we don’t do TOO well.

If the Braves win too many games, the federal government is likely to require that we give 4 players from our 40-man roster to losing teams.

KC

February 28th, 2009
12:47 pm

TnBrian, nope. We were lucky to get see the game on Thursday because that was the one and only spring training game ESPN will televise this spring. They’ll be televising the #$%^&* Wold Baseball Classic instead.

DOB and someone else posted the TV/Radio schedule above. Radio coverage starts next Friday, but it’ll be a little while before we see another game.

N Nine (eta35)

February 28th, 2009
12:50 pm

Santana could miss some time this year. He has a sore elbow.

BravoMan

February 28th, 2009
12:52 pm

Hey I’m at work lol. Where is a good place to get some play by play. Gameday off the Braves site maybe?

Danga

February 28th, 2009
12:52 pm

“We were lucky to get see the game on Thursday because that was the one and only spring training game ESPN will televise.”

Our luck is DOB’s misery. Only reason the Braves ended up on ESPN is because they play at Disney and ESPN was basically running a big advertisement for ESPN the weekend down there at Dark Star.

KC

February 28th, 2009
12:54 pm

N Nine (eta35), yup. As I’ve said before… after what happened to the Braves last year, I will have ZERO sympathy. Actually, I think the baseball gods owe it to us to give the Phillies and Mets a little taste of what we endured last year. I don’t mean losing… those franchises still remember that pretty well, I’m sure. I mean the injuries. Their turn.

18 Wheels of Love

February 28th, 2009
12:58 pm

Oh I know DOB, I remember you claiming way back when that you weren’t on Facebook (and rightly so IMO). I went on there for the first time 2 weeks ago and it freaked me out – I immediately deleted my account. That is just too much info out there…plus if I wanted to see everyone I went to high school with, I would move home or go to class reunions.

BravoMan

February 28th, 2009
12:58 pm

Time to see Wren’s 60 mil at work lol. I’m pumped for Lowe he should do well.

will

February 28th, 2009
1:01 pm

brent,
were you able to get any autgraphs?

yeah, im here

February 28th, 2009
1:06 pm

is any one doing play by play today?

dogsbrekky

February 28th, 2009
1:11 pm

Our 1st 2 hitters struck out

Yunel hitting, I assume nos 3, crushes one to CF for a single

dogsbrekky

February 28th, 2009
1:11 pm

Kotchman hits hard to 1st base, fielded outskyyyyyyyyyyy

Random

February 28th, 2009
1:12 pm

Denizens seem to be catching on to the 50 comment limit per page.

The first 10 comments on the previous page were posted at 9:49, 9:56, 9:56, 9:56, 9:58, 10:00, 10:01, 10:02, 10:06 & 10:11. Elapsed time: 22 minutes.

The last 10 qualifying comments on the previous page were posted at 11:58, 12:03, 12:06, 12: 29, 12:32, 12:35, 12:39, 12:39, 12:43 & 12:47. Elapsed time: 49 minutes.

And now, the first 8 comments on the previous page have been posted at 12:50, 12:52, 12:52, 12:54, 12:58, 12:58, 1:01 & 1:06. Elapsed time: 16 minutes.

Seems like everybody’s waiting for a new page to (un)load.

Except KC and <strong<DOB. Them two may never catch on.

Random

February 28th, 2009
1:13 pm

DOB (10:55 am): “Taylor, haven’t seen [Kawakami] hit yet, but I’m told he was an outstanding hitter in Japan. Don’t know if he has Mike Hampton-type power at the plate (doubtful), but those who’ve seen him say he can hit….”

Geez, I sure hope they’re not the same ones sayin he can pitch.

In 7 years (162 games, 378 PAs, 342 ABs), 川上 has achieved an AVG/OBP/SLG slashline of .161/.180/.231. For his career, Hampton boasts .241/.291/.352.

“outstanding hitter”, indeed.

川上 did have 28 sac bunts and only 8 GIDPs, but also only 8 BBs and 139 Ks. 5 HRs and 18 RBIs.

richbrave (11:57 am): I’m curious to see how things are for KEN K the third time through the NL EAST. Will they have figured out his “JUNK” by then as they have with CAMPILLO, or will he adapt and overcome?
Yeah, well I’ll be happy if he can make it thru the opposing teams’ line-up three times.

Him and Vazquez.

The jury’s still out on them both.

TnBrian

February 28th, 2009
1:14 pm

KC, thanks! That’s cool because that gives us, or at least me, more to look forward to when the season starts. I would like to see Lowe pitch today, but I know where I’ll be opening day…right here with a cold beer and pure silence, except for the TV blasting!

that's what I heard...........

February 28th, 2009
1:15 pm

DOB, who are you paying to post your comments all morning, (after midnight)? You need to seek medical attention (if it’s you).

Mike

February 28th, 2009
1:16 pm

Hill base hit to center field

dogsbrekky

February 28th, 2009
1:17 pm

Millar base hit between 3rd and SS, 1st and 2nd Blue Jays, zero outs

KC

February 28th, 2009
1:17 pm

Random, I’m not that smart. =)

dogsbrekky

February 28th, 2009
1:18 pm

sorry 2 outs

Steve McP

February 28th, 2009
1:18 pm

There are 2 on and 2 out for the jays

dogsbrekky

February 28th, 2009
1:18 pm

Mike

February 28th, 2009
1:18 pm

Steve McP

February 28th, 2009
1:18 pm

Strike out ends the inning

Mike

February 28th, 2009
1:21 pm

Diaz grounds out

Oromus

February 28th, 2009
1:21 pm

Is this on the radio at all?

KC

February 28th, 2009
1:22 pm

TnBrian, if you live in ATL, you needn’t be at home watching the game. Last year, myself and some other people from the blog had an opening day viewing party at a local sports bar… and are planning to make that an annual thing. We had about a dozen folks last year. Probably be a few more this year.

If you live in ATL, and are interested, email me at kccjr1@gmail.com

Mike

February 28th, 2009
1:22 pm

B Jones out 2 outs

dogsbrekky

February 28th, 2009
1:22 pm

B Jones gorunds out, 2 down

propp

February 28th, 2009
1:23 pm

so no more John Smoltz driving a mower for home depot commercials this year between innings

dogsbrekky

February 28th, 2009
1:23 pm

1st pitch strike then sinker for ball to ROSS (C)

Fastball high 2-1

dogsbrekky

February 28th, 2009
1:24 pm

Ross safe hit to CF on ground

Mike

February 28th, 2009
1:24 pm

base hit Ross

Lew

February 28th, 2009
1:24 pm

Random-I’m sure you know that Vasquez started out in the NL and was actually pretty successful. I think coming to a more pitcher oriented park from that hitter’s paradise in Chicago and no DH, will help him to be more successful back here than he was last year in the AL. We’ll see.

Dude, you haven’t contacted me about your Wurlitzer and you asked to let you know when I needed the Hank Aaron commentary. Now’s the time. I finished the portrait last night. Anyone else wanting to contribute commentary to The Hammer email me at Lewhartman@comcast.net Sorry to keep posting this but with the new format, continuity sucks.

dogsbrekky

February 28th, 2009
1:24 pm

On radio thru mlb.tv…….. FAN radio

yeah, im here

February 28th, 2009
1:24 pm

are you watching the game dogsbrekky?

Andy K.

February 28th, 2009
1:25 pm

I think we’re in for a back-up catching treat having Ross for these next two years…

Trbodawg

February 28th, 2009
1:25 pm

Anyone else having trouble with the MLB.com feed?

dogsbrekky

February 28th, 2009
1:25 pm

Prado up 1 and 3

KC

February 28th, 2009
1:26 pm

BTW, the opening day view party will probably be at Frankie’s on the Prado (North ATL – on 285)… and it’s an open invitation. Just email me at the email address from my previous post.

Mike

February 28th, 2009
1:26 pm

Prado grounds out 3 outs

David O'Brien

February 28th, 2009
1:26 pm

NEW BLOG IS UP

Lew

February 28th, 2009
1:28 pm

Interesting quote in the new Chop Talk (before the acquisition of Garrett Anderson). “We’ve talked about getting another “big bat” in the lineup and that would be great, but if not, we have a lot of speed. There are plenty of ways to skin a cat.” Who is this person and what did they do to Bobby Cox? Might we see some stolen bases and some small ball after all?

dogsbrekky

February 28th, 2009
1:28 pm

trbdawg – refresh it a few time, I had a lot of problems

2nd base fields, inning over

Pat

February 28th, 2009
1:31 pm

Pat

February 28th, 2009
1:33 pm

Lowe has been getting alot of ground balls just getting through the holes

Wayne in Utah

February 28th, 2009
2:00 pm

Can’t find the new blog…

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