1:06 pm February 27, 2009, by David O'Brien
February 27th, 20093:18 pm
DOB,do you think we found a hidden gem in Kawakami?
February 27th, 20093:19 pm
thanks DOB for the updates today just enough time to keep checking the chicken (got the smoker goin’ today) and read the blog. wife plans my smoker time with inclement weather. todays treat 15lbs of wings drumsticks and thighs. with apple wood smoke and a white aladamnbama BBQ sauce. last time came out good so we 4x the recipe. wife would rather have a tornado warning says something that cooking dangerously tastes better. but thats anyother story
Bravos pitching has racked-up 9 strikeouts so far. Not too shabby.
February 27th, 20093:20 pm
getnathan, I’m not a big fan of his. Junk, junk, junk. I’d put him at AAA as an emergency starter. Of course, I’m not saying my bullpen predictions are “gospel.” Campillo and Acosta might be there, but I hate to think of who they’ll replace.
Buffalo NY Braves Fan
I’ll be sure to send you some of our snow. We’re due for a fresh batch this weekend.
PWH- I agree with you favoring Campillo over Carlyle. You can’t ignore the a bit above average season for Campillo last season. I think bullpen duty will lower pressure for him.
dude- Chipper blasted a two-run homer earlier, then Norton
Norton – solo shot
Chipper – 2 run shot
February 27th, 20093:21 pm
Two homers, Norton and Chipper
that was some weird karma there ,did you all get the page-text-old-style on your refresh? or was it just my puter?
I think Campillo will be good…he was pitching too often last year…and got tired towards the end. I think with other starters getting the bulk of the games/innings he will be a solid #4/5 starter
“DOB,do you think we found a hidden gem in Kawakami?”
He was never really hidden. He won the ROY, Cy Young, and MVP in Japan and was coveted by a few teams before he chose to sign with the Braves.
February 27th, 20093:23 pm
Anyone excited about Glavine? Or do you think he is done? I dont mind the risk…just dont think he is as good as Smoltzie….at their ages.
B:0 S:0 O:2 – Martin Prado grounds into a force out, shortstop Anderson Machado to second baseman Shelby Ford. Brandon Jones out at 2nd. Martin Prado to 1st.
B:0 S:0 O:3 – Greg Norton grounds out to first baseman Garrett Jones.
B:0 S:0 O:0 – Pitcher Change: Anthony Lerew replaces Todd Redmond
Hopefully Kawa will prove the guys over at Baseball Prospectus that he can be effective here in the U.S.
I don’t understand the hatred toward Manny Acosta, the dude is a beast. If he isn’t in our pen to start the year something is wrong.
February 27th, 20093:24 pm
Japan won the WBC…but…is the Japanese league…at all comparable to MLB?
February 27th, 20093:25 pm
Well Heyward, Acosta pitched well yesterday, didn’t he?
February 27th, 20093:26 pm
Acosta didn’t pitch yesterday
Not to mention Acosta was great in the final stretch!
Acosta belongs in a big league bullpen, but with Soriano, Gonzalez, and Moylan locks and 1 spot reserved for a LOOGY (early pick: Boone Logan), I don’t see Acosta making the team. Campillo, Bennett, Carlyle, Acosta, Vlad Nunez, Boyer, Marek, and Stockman all competing for the final 3 spots, I just don’t see it.
February 27th, 20093:27 pm
buffalo as a kid i’d shovel any driveway in irondequoit for 2 dollars. left the snow in 73 and only go back once every 10 years or so. red clay and tornado warning traded for the snow. ihs 69 go indians ohsht they done gone pc they are now goldn eagles or something. KEEP THE SNOW SEND THE CUSTARD!
“I don’t understand the hatred toward Manny Acosta, the dude is a beast. If he isn’t in our pen to start the year something is wrong.” – HeywardTheFuture
I certainly don’t hate him. He throws hard. Too many walks, too many homers, and too few strikeouts are my problems with him. He’s got options. I just think Carlyle and Bennett are better than him at this point in their careers.
yeah, im here
when is steve avery reporting to camp?
Sorry, I believe he pitched Wednesday against the Tigers
one long relief man Bennett or Carlyle no need in having both, along with Boyer and Acosta seems pretty simple to me.
There are differences in MLB and NPB. 6 man rotation, different baseball size, quality of hitters is lower. However, Kuroda and Dice-k made seemless transitions into the bigs, there’s no reason Kawakami can’t.
February 27th, 20093:28 pm
Let’s just say I don’t envy those who make the final cuts when it comes to those staying in the bullpen.
Lerew is pitching the eighth, and he got two outs before giving up consecutive hits and a walk to load the bases for Pedro Alvarez, who’s batting now.
February 27th, 20093:29 pm
Bennett isn’t a long man anymore, he’s got the stuff to be setting up a closer. He’s mid-relief for all practical purposes. That leaves Campillo and Carlyle competing for the LR role.
Now he throws a wild pitch to bring in a run, ending the shutout.
February 27th, 20093:30 pm
lerew’s gettin cut
February 27th, 20093:32 pm
“Bennett isn’t a long man anymore, he’s got the stuff to be setting up a closer. ”
Not sure about that one. Even if he does, his stuff isn’t better then Moylan and Soriano when they are healthy. If they are they will be the setup men.
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“Cut me, Mick, cut me!”
February 27th, 20093:33 pm
heyward the future are you under the influence of something? the only pen acosta belongs in is the pig pen! please back that point up with the blazing acosta stats that we all know he has! LOL
February 27th, 20093:34 pm
I didn’t say he would be a set-up man in our bullpen, I’m just saying he has the stuff to be a set-up man. The Braves would get more mileage out of him if they use him for 1 inning at a time in meaningful games. Unlike Carlyle, whose best role is in long relief when the starter boots.
February 27th, 20093:35 pm
A Mets pitcher just balked in a run.
B:0 S:0 O:1 – Andrew McCutchen flies out to left fielder Brandon Jones.
B:0 S:3 O:2 – Anderson Machado strikes out swinging.
B:0 S:0 O:2 – Shelby Ford singles on a line drive to center fielder Gregor Blanco.
B:0 S:0 O:2 – Jason Jaramillo singles on a line drive to left fielder Brandon Jones. Shelby Ford to 2nd.
B:4 S:0 O:2 – Garrett Jones walks. Shelby Ford to 3rd. Jason Jaramillo to 2nd.
February 27th, 20093:37 pm
B:1 S:0 O:2 – With Pedro Alvarez batting, wild pitch by Anthony Lerew, Shelby Ford scores. Jason Jaramillo to 3rd. Garrett Jones to 2nd
I said earlier you CAN’T load up da bases this much and not pay
Mets vs. Cards/LaRussa … Can they both lose? (got no love for LaRussa. He’s a t-word).
DOB, glad to see you survived the KK gaggle with the Japanese press corps. For a minute, thought you might have been abducted by white tank-topped, orange-shorted mob roaming below the press box.
And what’s the plan for Lerew? Is he back 100 percent or some other percent at this point? I figure he’s not a top option for the Braves now and may not even be in the long-range plans. Just curious to how far along he is back from the injury.
February 27th, 20093:39 pm
I’ll pack your custard in Rochester snow, how’s that haha.
The plans for Lerew probably include: A) get him healthy and use him for trade bait, B) throw him in a package of some sort, or C) let him walk and sign any minor-league deal he wants when his tenure runs out.
I really liked Acosta too…a lot more than Boyer…both throw hard…but it seems they give up a lot of HRS Boyer gave up 10 last year…Acosta gave up 7 the innings make it balance out to about equal
February 27th, 20093:40 pm
mbatl – I actually think that Carlyle will be the long man, let’s hope we don’t see too much of him (that means the starters will be eating up innings)
Wayne in Utah
For the same reason that you state that Campillo got tired last year, the same exact thing happened to Boyer from being overused. Were you watching the games???
Dude was dealing early in the season.
So, Lerew has a bad inning, and now somebody already has him cut.
Give it a couple of days/weeks folks before you cut these guys loose. Heck, with that mentality, we would have already traded Hanson for David DeJesus yesterday.
St. Louis RBI single to make it 6-3 St. Louis in the top of the 8th.
Then pitcher balks to bring in the 7th run. Line drive base hit up the middle to bring in the 8th run. Now a strikeout to end the inning. St. Louis up 8-3 over the Mets.
I missed the first two innings of this game. Livan Hernandez started and pitched well from what I heard.
How did the inning end…it didnt make any sense?
Karl Hungus wrote “pay the b-t-h back”, but used all the letters. Don’t need that on the blog, because all of us, self included, could easily slip into that casual idiom…then it’s the slippery slope thing, and the blog soon becomes a rude, crude, rant!
February 27th, 20093:41 pm
was the guy trying to steal home?
B:0 S:0 O:0 – Pitcher Change: Chris Bootcheck replaces John Grabow.
B:0 S:0 O:1 – Diory Hernandez grounds out, shortstop Anderson Machado to first baseman Garrett Jones.
B:0 S:0 O:2 – Gregor Blanco flies out to left fielder Jeff Salazar.
B:0 S:3 O:3 – Brandon Hicks strikes out swinging.
February 27th, 20093:42 pm
Yeah I didn’t get the play-by-play to end the inning either.
I think Lerew or the catcher picked off a runner at 3rd. Like you said though, it doesn’t make sense.
best thing for the pen is to rid itself of both acosta and boyer. how many chances our we gonna give boyer? he has been there forever and never ever proved himself
With the Mets losing I bet we will not hear from Anders &Pizzoro till late
February 27th, 20093:43 pm
Some of you folks don’t get the grasp that this is spring training. Let’s not get too up or too down on an inning or an AB.
Unless he is dealt, I suspect Boyer will definitely make the team, and I expect under less pressure and less usage, he will surprise a lot of folks this year.
But then again, what do I know??
February 27th, 20093:44 pm
PWHjort, I agree as far as 1 inning stints for Bennett and Carlyle being the long releif guy.
February 27th, 20093:45 pm
Wayne in Utah: None of us really know anything…so…technically you know as much as most, lol
Don’t try to kill the OCD buzz, man.
Mama ran off with a trucker, Mama ran off with a trucker, Mama ran off with a trucker. Peterbilt Peterbilt.
February 27th, 20093:47 pm
Anyone seen the commercial where the kid says “Why he is harsing my dream mellow?”
February 27th, 20093:48 pm
somebody tell me how many years boyer has been with the braves and how many of those years he has been productive
So cphizzle, we want Boyer to have a good spring so he can be traded. I think Bennett is better than Boyer right now. Bennett will be the 7th inning guy. Moylan and Soriano will man the 8th, and of Gonzo in the 9th.
February 27th, 20093:49 pm
Old people coughing is the worst.
February 27th, 20093:50 pm
Boyer has appeared in 4 seasons with the Braves. An effective half-year in 2005, a lost 2006 and 2007 due to surgeries and rehab, and an effective first half of 2008. I’d go with one year out of one and a half years of being productive.
February 27th, 20093:51 pm
I dont think Gonzo is going to close for the Braves this year. I realize he is the closer…but he was really in consistent last year. I know this is a long shot…but like Moylan as a closer. His arm angle is so hard to hit…it might work for the 9th inning.
Andruw Jones 0/1 and this may come as a surprise. A….K!
Scalp 'Em Braves
February 27th, 20093:52 pm
I may have been snoozing up to this point, so sorry to ask a question that may have already been brought up or answered….
Has Soriano pitched in a game yet? Is he over the crud that had him out a couple of weeks ago? I sure hope he can stay healthy this year. With him coming from the right side, and Gonzo from the left, I’ll feel a lot better about our chances to hold a late lead and finish out.
The Cardinals are falling apart in the 8th. Bases are loaded with Mets.
February 27th, 20093:53 pm
thank you PWHJort. so can anybody tell me why we are ready to give up on frenchy after one down year when we give boyer 4 bad ones?
B:0 S:0 O:0 – Pitcher Change: Kevin Gunderson replaces Anthony Lerew.
B:4 S:0 O:0 – Jose Tabata walks.
B:0 S:0 O:0 – Neil Walker doubles (1) on a line drive to center fielder Gregor Blanco. Jose Tabata scores.
B:0 S:0 O:0 – Offensive Substitution: Pinch hitter Andy Phillips replaces Jeff Salazar.
B:0 S:0 O:1 – Andy Phillips flies out to right fielder Jason Heyward. Neil Walker to 3rd.
B:0 S:0 O:2 – Andrew McCutchen pops out to first baseman Martin Prado.
B:0 S:0 O:3 – Anderson Machado pops out to shortstop Brandon Hicks.
I wish we had signed Andruw…i know it probably wouldnt have been a good idea…i just miss him in Center field. Hope he gets back on track this year..with Texas or whoever.
February 27th, 20093:54 pm
“Andruw Jones 0/1 and this may come as a surprise. A….K!”
Pretty sure that’s 4 K’s in 4 AB’s for ‘druw.
Mets pick up a run in the bottom of the 8th. Going to the 9th with St. Louis leading 8-4.
James is Red
February 27th, 20093:55 pm
MFin04 – I think Glavine is going to really surprise people this year. I’m totally buying his whole thing about his arm hasn’t felt this good in 6 years. Remember that before his last dreadful month in ‘07, he was having a very good year. 10 – 12 wins.
Andruw had a double in their intra-squad game in one at bat lol
February 27th, 20093:56 pm
Yeah, Andruw would have been a very keen signing. He struck out again today in his only ab so far. He’s yet to hit the ball this spring.
What are some realistic good numbers for Glavine this year…so low in the rotation?
“thank you PWHJort. so can anybody tell me why we are ready to give up on frenchy after one down year when we give boyer 4 bad ones?”
He didn’t have 4 bad years. He was sidelined for 2 and pitched well in 30+ innings in 2005 and the first half of 2008. Francoeur, on the other hand, is YET to have a good year. In 3 seasons, his OPS+ has been 87, 102, and 72. He’s allergic to walking and his defense was awful last year. I’m not ready to give up on Francoeur, but that would be the argument. Makes a lot more sense to give up on Francoeur than Boyer.
February 27th, 20093:57 pm
Anyone see Cody Ross hit that homerun yesterday? And throw a runner out? I was like…that is 1hr 2 rbis and 1 base runner caught stealing more than our back-up catchers last year…lol.
Always great to see the team get a win, even though it’s just Spring Training. I see the Acosta bashers are out today. No matter. Manny Acosta will be part of the Braves pen. Unless he has a horrible camp, one of the spots in the pen is his. He was overused last season, and got hurt, but he still did really well , especially for his first year and having to play many roles in the pen.
This year, he and Boyer will not have to close games, and will do less set up work with Soriano and Moylan back and healthy.
Manny Acosta could very well be the future closer for the Braves.He has the stuff, he needs to continue to gain confidence in his second full season. He had 3 bad games in June, but except for those games, and that month, he did really well for a rookie not expected to close games.
Looking at his game log from last season, there can be no argument that he doesn’t belong in the Braves pen this season. And to call him, or Boyer, trash is just not supported by the numbers.
February 27th, 20093:58 pm
As my grandpa used to say: You can wish in one hand and crap in the other, and see which gets filled first.
February 27th, 20093:59 pm
Was Andruw on this team last year? We’re keeping track of a guy who hasn’t been a Brave since the Mark Teixeira Song was sweeping Braves Nation?
Salty and Elvis Andrus also playing in that Ranger/Cubs game.
i would hate to know your definition of good then. francouer has done nothing but produced and been healthy since he got here.
February 27th, 20094:01 pm
Chop Chop, so you have no interest in what Andruw does, or Smoltz, or Tex, or anyone else that has been and might’ve been Braves? Sorry, I find it pretty interesting to track.
Yay – we won!
cphizzle and mfin
Boyer started in 2005, pitched in 43 games and had an ERA of 3.11
Boyer was hurt in 2006.
Boyer pitched in only 5 games in ATL in 2007, and had a 3.38 ERA.
Last year, Boyer had an ERA in the low 3’s in April, May and June.
In July, August and September, his ERA was roughly 8 for those 3 months.
Do you understand now why I have some hope for Boyer. Last year was certainly difficult on the staff. Ohman stunk it up late in the year also, as did almost everybody who had been around through the summer. Even Campillo and Jurrjens faded down the stretch.
So, I am not trying to be contradictory, but let’s give Boyer (and some others) a shot to show what they can do under normal circumstances.
Even Francoeur, who was trying to make himself better (but maybe doing a lot of the wrong things) should be cut a little slack. Remember when in 2005 thru 2007 when he was one of the most clutch hitters we had???
He might turn out to be a bust, but let’s don’t send him to his “baseball grave” quite so soon. He might just surprise you.
I think one of Jeff’s biggest problems is that the early hype might have been over stated, or might have put some undue pressure on him to perform. Players handle pressure differently. I just think we need to exercise some patience here, after 3 ST games.
It’s a marathon, not a sprint folks.
February 27th, 20094:02 pm
ChipperFan-Hope Gramps didn’t actually experiment to see if that was true.
Isn’t a Hooter’s Girl in full uniform an oxymoron?
February 27th, 20094:03 pm
DOB, You aren’t kidding about Bobby’s patience if he gave his rental car to a couple of asian drivers! JK. Funny story.
February 27th, 20094:04 pm
Sir, a career OPS+ of 92 is not producing. Especially when he was a lousy fielder. He’s twice had OBP’s below the Mendoza line of OBP, 300.
MFin04: To comment on some of your posts:
On Schafer, Anderson, and Blanco not getting on base enough. Blanco can get on base…but that’s really all he can do. Anderson’s main issue is that he doesn’t get on base enough. But Schafer? His OBP is .375 for the past two years in the minors, and that includes his bad start at AA. He’ll strike out 100 times a year, but will probably hit 20 homers, steal about 20 bases, get on base a lot and play amazing defense. He is very much a REAL option for center, if he’s ready. Better than signing Andruw. He’s still one of the top prospects in the organization.
On Gonzalez, he converted 14 out of 16 save opportunities after coming back from Tommy John surgery. He did not have his usual 97 mph velocity. Time will tell if he’s healthy again, but he was as close to a sure save as it gets with Pittsburgh. With that said, Moylan is nasty too and was just developing that changeup before he got hurt. I think you save Moylan for those situations when you have to get an out or three with runners on base. Boyer was very dominant early in the season and broke down later on. If I recall right, in the beginning of the year Boyers Opposing Hitter’s Average was close to or under .200. Bullpen is looking to be very strong if everyone is healthy and the starter’s do their jobs.
You know when your bullpen pitches more innings then your starters…you have a problem I dont think it was soo much the bullpens fault last year…as it was not having starters go deep enough in games. I think by having 4/5/6 legit healthy starters this year…our bullpen will be a lot better on a lot more rest.
February 27th, 20094:06 pm
Gonzalez’s fastball didn’t top 88 MPH in his outing Thursday and he was completely incapable of locating it
Bobby had good things to say about several pitchers — obviouslyl Kawakami, but also big raves for Kris Medlen. Braves officials are real high on that little dude. Seems a good chance we’ll see him up this season, perhaps sooner than later.
Cox also actually praised Lerew, said that ball’s sinking big-time again, said he could “get it going again,” presumably meaning his career moving forward again, now that he’s fully recovered from TJ surgery.
February 27th, 20094:08 pm
I’ll take Acosta over Tavarez any day. Glad he is no longer with us.
“I think one of Jeff’s biggest problems is that the early hype might have been over stated, or might have put some undue pressure on him to perform. Players handle pressure differently. I just think we need to exercise some patience here, after 3 ST games.”
Jeff’s only problem is, and always has been, his complete lack of strike-zone discipline and inability to get on base. Has nothing to do with anything other than his free-swinging mentality.
February 27th, 20094:09 pm
Hate to disagree with DOB (and I am not really in principle), Smoltz truly did have a nasty splitter, but Mike Scott, in the 80’s, for the Astros, was the best I ever saw.
You can spout off low OPS, low OPS+, and low blood sugar all you want. (whatever the heck some of that means, I don’t know)
Frenchy looked lost last year, for sure.
BUT, if I could have a composite of his first 2.5 years for the next 10-12 years, I would take it. Where in your OPS+ does it talk about being clutch with RISP?
Besides, who you gonna put in right who has a gun like Francoeur? Noodle arm Blanco? Garret (my original team didnt need me) Anderson? Josh (wish I could learn how to steal first base) Anderson?
The only possible player who could supplant Francoeur this spring is Brandon Jones. While I like Brandon’s up side, I just don’t see that happening.
What say ye???
cphizzle (3:48 pm, p10): “somebody tell me how many years boyer has been with the braves and how many of those years he has been productive”
Two years with Atlanta, one-and-a-half to one-and-two-thirds years productive–
2005: 37.2 IP, 3.11 ERA, 1.30 WHIP, .234/.325/.307 (BA/OBP/SLG against), 1.94 K/BB, 4.06 BB/9, 7.88 K/9
2008: 72.0 IP, 5.88 ERA, 1.36 WHIP, .262/.323/.452 (BA/OBP/SLG against), 2.68 K/BB, 3.13 BB/9, 8.38 K/9
Enough denizens have already pointed out his overuse and consequent tailing off the last two months of last season — I concur.
Boyer’s a keeper, or valuable trade bait. Preferably the former.
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