Chipper on Hanson: He’ll be No. 1 starter

   Lake Buena Vista, Fla. – As first impressions go, Tommy Hanson will be tough to beat anytime soon. Everyone who meets him and/or sees him pitch agrees, this young dude is as close to can’t-miss as they come, with a towering upside, both literally (he’s 6-foot-6) and figuratively.

   Bobby Cox compared his slider to John Smoltz’s the other day. Folks, Smoltz might have the best slider in the majors.

   This morning I asked pitching coach Roger McDowell what he liked about Hanson, he said, “Everything. He does everything right…. Now it’s just seeing him face hitters [in spring games]. But everything so far, he’s done right. True professional. A young kid — young man – who understands professionalism.”

  I mentioned to bullpen coach Eddie Perez what McDowell said. Perez has watched Hanson throw in the bullpen and on Field 2 since camp opened.

  ”I don’t like everything about him,” Perez said, pausing for effect. “I like more than everything.”

  And on and on. Ask players their initial impressions of the big, soft-spoken right-hander, and they all agree: Impressive. Very impressive.

  Chipper Jones isn’t prone to hyperbole when it comes to young kids. He’s usually one to remind us all to let this prospect or that prospect do something, let him get his feet wet, before we start making him out to be the next Greg Maddux or Sandy Koufax.

  But when it comes to Hanson, the first pitcher ever named MVP of the Arizona Fall League, Chipper suspends that general rule of his.

  Just read what he said about Hanson: 

  ”Very impressive. He’s probably got the best stuff of anybody in this clubhouse,” Chipper said. “[He throws] 93-94 with good movement. Great slider. You’re talking about a kid that young who can command four pitches. To do what he did in the Arizona Fall League, which has never been done … pretty impressive kid.”

  There was more. Someone mentioned that Cox had compared Hanson’s slider to Smoltz’s.

  ”That’s probably the best guy to compare him to, only with [more pitches at a young age],” Jones said, pointing out that Smoltz relied on the fastball/slider combo alone for much of his career.

  Chipper said all this last week, just before the Braves signed Tom Glavine and penciled in the veteran for the No. 5 starter role, filling out a deep rotation.

   “I don’t know what their plans are [for Hanson],” Jones said at the time, “but I would like to see him come in and dazzle and make this club.”

   He wasn’t finished just yet. He saved the best for last: “We all know where our bread is buttered,” Jones said. “Do we start him in Atlanta or do we give him some confidence with a couple of starts in Triple-A and then call him up?

   “This kid is going to be the No. 1 starter in Atlanta soon. There’s no holding him back. Even if you have to go to a six-man rotation to do it, I would do it. I, by no means,  think Bobby would do that. I’m just saying, he’s that good.”

  Like I said, Hanson makes a helluva first impression.

 ”I think the power arm is something this club has been missing,” Jones said. “Smoltz is a power arm. It’s power arms that win in the postseason. We’ve all seen that.”

  Should be fun when the Braves start playing games this week. Cox and McDowell finalized pitching plans and I’ll add them later today. Cox wanted to wait until after the workout that’s going on now is over, so they could talk to all the pitchers and make sure everyone’s good to go.

OTHER MATTERS

 – Still seeking that bat?… Chipper Jones has mentioned a few times, including to a group of reporters Saturday, that the Braves still need to get a big right-handed bat to hit between him and Brian McCann, and how that would make this Braves lineup a pretty good one. I’ve got a feeling that, despite what we’re hearing from Braves officials about giving the young kids a shot in left field, the Braves are still in the market for a veteran with pop. And the longer Garret Anderson sits out there, the more he seems like a good, relatively cheap bat to plug into that left-field platoon with Matt Diaz. He’s not right-handed, as Chipper would prefer, but he’s a proven run-producer. If they can get Anderson for $3 million or so, wouldn’t surprise me if it happens. But again, that’s just a hunch. I think even if the Braves are still actively seeking a bat, they’d be (understandably) unwilling to say as much given all that’s happened, i.e. ones that got away….

   – You remember Mike Hampton. Yeah, seems like a long time ago, doesn’t it? Lot has transpired since he chose Houston over the Braves. Anyway, here’s a column about him in the Houston Chronicle today….

   — The story about the Dominican prospect for the Nationals, who’s older than listed and also has a different name, is sleazy in so many ways. Nats are not looking good in this one. By the way, the second-highest bidder for the kid was the Braves, who offered about $700,000….

 

BLOGMEISTER ADDENDUM: I got the news about Anderson signing after I posted the blog, so I’ll just add here the top of the first draft of the story I filed for the paper:

   Lake Buena Vista, Fla. _ The Braves have finally added a veteran bat to their outfield, left-handed slugger Garret Anderson.

   The team finalized a one-year, contract worth about $2.5 million with the free agent on Sunday, according to a person familiar with the situation. An announcement is expected to come Monday, and    Anderson was believed to be en route to Florida to join the Braves at spring training.

   Anderson, 36, has a .296 career average and 272 home runs in 15 seasons in the majors, all with the Los Angeles Angels of the American League. He was with that team so long, he played for it when it was known as the California Angels and later the Anaheim Angels, before the L.A. name change.

   The Braves have been looking for a cleanup hitter, and Anderson has batted in that spot more than any other spot during his career, both as a designated hitter and an outfielder.

   The three-time former All-Star is expected to play left field for the Braves, either full-time or perhaps work in a platoon with Matt Diaz. The platoon job was what tbe Braves planned for Ken Griffey Jr., before Griffey decided Wednesday to sign with Seattle instead of Atlanta.

  But Anderson is younger, without the health concerns of Griffey, and without the big disparity in splits vs. left-handers and right-handers. So he might play a regular role, rather than platoon with Diaz.

    Anderson hit .293 with 15 home runs, 84 RBIs and a .325 on-base percentage last season, including 14 home runs in 433 at-bats against right-handed pitchers.

    For comparison, Griffey hit .249 with 18 homers and 71 RBIs last season, including .272 with 14 homers in 327 at-bats against right-handers.

     Soon after Griffey announced his decision, the Braves moved on to Anderson, despite stating publicly that they would take a look at their organization’s young outfielders and not immediately pursue another free agent or a trade for a veteran.

    He doesn’t draw many walks, but Anderson is regarded as a “professional hitter” with a penchant for big hits. Last season, he hit .338 in 130 at-bats with runners in scoring position, including .356 with two outs. In the late innings of close games, he hit .371 with a .441 OBP in 89 at-bats.

    He split time between DH and the outfield in the latter years of his career, and at this stage he’s not an exceptional defensive player. However, he’s probably as good or better defensively than most other veteran free agents who were available earlier, including the injury-plagued Griffey.

   With no DH in the National League, he’ll play the outfield and serve as a pinch-hitter when he’s not in the lineup. Anderson was a 8-for-25 (.320) in his limited pinch-hit duty with the Angels.

    It’s possible that Anderson could also get plenty of at-bats against left-handed pitchers. His lefty-righty splits don’t have the kind of wide disparity as Griffey, whose average against lefties slipped dramatically in recent seasons while he continued to thrive against right-handers.

    Last season, Anderson hit .293 and slugged .450 with 39 extra-base hits against right-handers. He hit .290 and slugged .371 with six extra-base hits (one homer) in 124 at-bats against lefties.

 

 – OK let’s take it out with one from the Glimmer Twins….

“TUMBLING DICE” by Mick Jagger and Keith Richards

Women think I’m tasty, but they’re always tryin’ to waste me 
And make me burn the candle right down, 
But baby, baby, I don’t need no jewels in my crown. 

‘Cause all you women is low down gamblers, 
Cheatin’ like I don’t know how, 
But baby, I go crazy, there’s fever in the funk house now. 
This low down bitchin’ got my poor feet a itchin’, 
You know you know the duece is still wild. 

Baby, I can’t stay, you got to roll me 
And call me the tumblin’ dice. 

Always in a hurry, I never stop to worry, 
Don’t you see the time flashin’ by. 
Honey, got no money, 
I’m all sixes and sevens and nines. 
Say now, baby, I’m the rank outsider, 
You can be my partner in crime. 

But baby, I can’t stay, 
You got to roll me and call me the tumblin’, 
Roll me and call me the tumblin’ dice. 

Oh, my, my, my, I’m the lone crap shooter, 
Playin’ the field ev’ry night. 

Baby, can’t stay, 
You got to roll me and call me the tumblin’ dice, (Call me the tumblin’)
Got to roll me, Got to roll me, Got to roll me (Oh yeah)
Got to roll me. Got to roll me, Got to roll me ( Keep on rolling, Keep on rolling)

 

 

102 comments Add your comment

Doc Holiday

February 22nd, 2009
2:20 pm

Lew
He did strikeout a lot, but an out is an out,specially if you are leading the game, there is no one on base to advance. He worked the count,you have to like that.

Blanco did strikeout 99 times in 430 AB, thats once every 4.34 AB. But What about Anderson? 33 K in 136 AB? thats once every 4.12 AB. In my math that looks a little worse. Not to mention only 8 walks in 136 AB, that doesnt sound good to me either.

David O'Brien

February 22nd, 2009
2:20 pm

One thing to keep in mind about Schafer, which he seems to be fully aware of (hence his comment in my story in today’s paper about “business side”) is that if he spends a couple months in Triple-A, he won’t be eligible for arbitration until after the 2012 season. If he starts season with Braves, or even comes up after a month, he could be arb-eligible after 2011 season, either with three years of service or as a “Super 2″ guy, that small percentage with the most service time below three years.

TJ

February 22nd, 2009
2:22 pm

DOB-
Can’t get the link you posted for the article on Hampton to work. It tells me the page is not available. Broken link possibly?

AZ Braves Fan

February 22nd, 2009
2:25 pm

Hey Dave, looks like your link on Hampton (above) has a space between the // and “www”. Thanks for the hard work.

Steve from OH

February 22nd, 2009
2:27 pm

Just go into the URL and delete the %20 from it and it will work (on the Hampton link). Good story.

toga party

February 22nd, 2009
2:27 pm

Nice blog DOB. Sure will be fun to see Hanson pitch some spring training and see what all the fuss is about.

I’m guessing he and Schafer start in AAA, preserving their clocks. Barring injury of course. I’m actually more concerned about Murphy’s plans for our roster this year than I am about FW’s.

Coach (Skip and Pete will be missed)

February 22nd, 2009
2:28 pm

I’m almost first and in about one hundred post’s, nobody will care. If you ask me, we should keep the new format and go back to the five minute wait. That will keep the blog under control.

TJ

February 22nd, 2009
2:29 pm

Thanks Steve. That worked just fine. ‘Preciate the help.

David O'Brien

February 22nd, 2009
2:30 pm

Now I’m hearing from someone I consider reliable that the Braves might already have a deal in place for Garret Anderson. I’m trying to confirm. Just want to be clear — MIGHT HAVE A DEAL DONE — not saying they definitely do. That’s what I’m hearing, however, that it might already be in place.

Kieran(Long Island Braves fan)

February 22nd, 2009
2:33 pm

HAHA gotta love the disclaimer Dave

Coxlover

February 22nd, 2009
2:33 pm

DOB, don’t tease us again.

KC

February 22nd, 2009
2:34 pm

LOL… LOL…LOL!!! DOB’s last post cracked me up. That poor guy’s going to have to qualify every report like that for the next year or so.

Andrew

February 22nd, 2009
2:35 pm

davey davey davey boy you have some balls man

Chop Chop

February 22nd, 2009
2:35 pm

If Schafer looks like the best (or second-best, depending on the addition of a vet in left field) outfielder we have in left or center, he needs to be up with the big club at the start of the season. If we’re truly trying to compete for something, we need our best guys here. If that means we pay him a year earlier, so be it. The goal is to win, not to pinch pennies.

(”If” is why I love February and March baseball talk.)

KC

February 22nd, 2009
2:37 pm

THE CASE FOR GARRET ANDERSON:

HE CAN HIT. A .296 career hitter, Anderson can still put the bat on the ball. He hit .293 last year, and unlike Griffey, he can handle lefties (.290 vs. lefties / .293 vs. righties).

HE’S STILL A SOLID RUN PRODUCER as his 84 RBI in ‘08 would attest. While he has lost much of his once considerable power, he still has pop… connecting for 15 homers last year.

DEFENSE: Yes, his range is diminished, but not as severely as a someone else stated here in a recent post. He can still span left-field just fine. AND Anderson has made 2 errors in his last 261 games.

SOLID PLATOON PARTNER: Anderson hit 14 of his 15 homers last year off right-handed pitching, while Diaz has shown nice pop off of lefties. Put those two in a LF platoon, and you’re likley to get the following from left field: A .300+ average, 15-20 homers, 75-90 RBI

WHY NOT? He should fit within the Braves budget just fine. He’s still a solid player, and for 2-3 million on a one-year deal… why not???

If you’ve got Anderson/Diaz in left field, you’ve got 4 positions (LF, SS, 2B, 1B) from which you can expect a .280-305 average, 13-20 homers, and at least 65 RBI… to go along with Chipper, McCann, and Francoeur.

If you add Anderson and get a rebound from Francoeur… that’s a nice lineup folks.

Coach (Skip and Pete will be missed)

February 22nd, 2009
2:39 pm

Tommy Hanson has the talent to make the Yankee’s rotation. He really does. I saw him pitch in the Arizona Fall league during the one game that MLB.com showed live on the net. He was a man among boys.

That said, the Braves rotation of Jurrjens, Lowe, Kawakami, Vasquez and Glavine is all but set. I agree with four of those names. One is a waste of 11.5 million. Hanson is more than capable of filling out the rotation at the league minimum. The flip side of that argument is that we all know the number one golden rule: You can never, ever have enough pitching.

It just stinks that the Braves didn’t have enough cash left over to get a really good quality veteran right handed bat to hit clean up and play LF. I must commend Frank Wren on his single minded approach at fixing the starting pitching. I just don’t agree on the way he spent the estimated 40-45 million available.

Chop Chop

February 22nd, 2009
2:39 pm

DOB,

Ifs, maybes, and possiblys are your friends.

“IF the source I consider reliable is, in this case, reliable, Garret Anderson could possibly be a done deal mAyBe MaYbE maybe IF this information is possibly reliable iF If iF.”

brian

February 22nd, 2009
2:40 pm

thanks for the info DOB. Great blog as always. Thanks also for ignoring the haters and keeping us informed.

The Braves should be thankful for this blog. This blog does more for interest in the Braves than their marketing people could dream of

Coxlover

February 22nd, 2009
2:40 pm

Well, if Garret does come to Atlanta at least he will be around someone familiar ( Kotchman) so maybe it wont take him long to adjust.

Doc Holiday

February 22nd, 2009
2:41 pm

Chop Chop

That wouldnt be pinching pennies exactly but I like your comment. On the other hand, do not forget, the money they save with Schafer on any given year, they can use somewhere else (somebody else).

HeywardTheFuture

February 22nd, 2009
2:41 pm

Thanks for the scoop DOB, if it’s true I like the signing he’s durable and consistent, and put up a killer OPS after the all-star break last year.

James is Red

February 22nd, 2009
2:42 pm

DOB – Love the disclaimer! Don’t let them all get to you, man.

ease19

February 22nd, 2009
2:42 pm

At least Bowman reported it first this time, now DOB can throw him under the bus…If it comes to that!

Chop Chop

February 22nd, 2009
2:42 pm

Run Heap Run

February 22nd, 2009
2:43 pm

Wow I’m excited to see Hanson in action now. I don’t pay much attention to pre-season hype but when salty old Chipper speaks that highly of someone, I’m inclined to listen.

Thanks for the heads up on the link, AZ Braves Fan. I was just about to ask.

BTW, do we have enough denziens on facebook to make a DOB blog fan group?

KC

February 22nd, 2009
2:43 pm

Coach (Skip and Pete will be missed)

February 22nd, 2009
2:45 pm

Well, I wasn’t on board with Griffy and I’m firmly in disagreement over Garrett Anderson. This is more of the WIN NOW philosophy, damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead approach.

Doing the smart thing and letting the kids play like the Braves did back in 1990-1991 won’t work. We need more veteran’s so Cox can look good. Somebody please hit me with a bat and don’t wake me up until October :)

PTBNL

February 22nd, 2009
2:46 pm

If at all possible, I would like for Schafer to not make the team at the first of the year. It would give him opportunity to really solidify himself and it the arbitration issue would be in the Braves favor as well. My question is, would it also affect his free agency availability? I am suppose to know that, but I have forgotten the rules.

Efrim

February 22nd, 2009
2:47 pm

Good point about Schafer. He needs more development time anyway. Keep him in Triple A until at least June. Teams do this. Red Sox and Rays are two that come to mind.

Jerry

February 22nd, 2009
2:48 pm

Can anyone finally determine why Anderson wasn’t woth the Braves sooner. Did he do something to piss Cox off. There’s going to be some guys that don’t make the 25 man roster that could play elsewhere and be used for trade bait.
I’m satisfied going with Kotchman, Johnson, Yunel, Hoss, McCann, Diaz, Anderson and Frenchy with Infante, Prado, Ross, Norton and Schafer

Pitchers will be Lowe, Kamakazi, Vasquez, Glavine, JJ as my starters and make a bullpen of Gonzo, Soriano, Moylan, Bennett and let Hanson get his work coming in as a reliever. Of course there’s 2 more spots to be filled with Logan, Campillo, Carlisle and the others.

Sounds like a good team to me.

Good enough to make the playoffs and let Smoltz watch us from his recliner.

Andrew

February 22nd, 2009
2:48 pm

i think we will get Garret ..i just dont see any other teams that will make a push for him..Diaz/Anderson platoon could turn out very nice..Anderson also could fill some leadership in the young outfield.

Steve from OH

February 22nd, 2009
2:48 pm

Coach, I think the Braves are playing the service time rules to their advantage right now. I think they already consider Schafer the superior candidate for the OF, but are going to wait in order to keep him under control for another season. Same for Hanson–I think they’re content to wait until someone gets injured or scuffles to bring him up. And I’m ok with that, I guess. I still think our rotation is pretty solid as it is. I agree with you that we can never have enough pitching. And for once, it appears that we finally do.

BravoMan

February 22nd, 2009
2:49 pm

Careful on the Anderson reporting DOB. If it doesn’t come true Bowman may rip yea lol

TexasBrave

February 22nd, 2009
2:49 pm

DOB if the Braves get G. Anderson would they still platoon him with Diaz? Seems to me, at least average wise, that he hits both lefties and righties well.

Also it doesn’t seem to me that he is the man we want batting behind Chipper. Again has a decent average, but no real pop especially in the latter stages of his career. Kind of seems like a 5th or 6th hole guy. We need someone who opposing managers/pitchers would not pitch around Chipper to get to.

Efrim

February 22nd, 2009
2:50 pm

I don’t think Anderson is the way to go. What don’t they like about Jim Edmonds? Seems no teams are in on that guy. Oh well.

C's

February 22nd, 2009
2:51 pm

I still think Edmonds is a better option than Anderson.

TexasBrave

February 22nd, 2009
2:51 pm

DOB your source isn’t from Terry Moore is it?

Steve from OH

February 22nd, 2009
2:52 pm

Efrim, I’m with ya, but then again I’ve never worked in a MLB front office so…

Coxlover

February 22nd, 2009
2:52 pm

Coach, what’s wrong with a WIN NOW philosophy ? Who wants to wait 2 or 3 years to win ?

Andrew

February 22nd, 2009
2:52 pm

would you guys like it more if the braves had signed pat burrel instead or kawakami..then just put hanson in the rotation?

raindawg722

February 22nd, 2009
2:52 pm

Hanson will get his share of starts with the big league club this summer. If recent history has taught us anything about starting pitching, it has taught us that the five guys you have going into spring training aren’t necessarily the five that you’ll get coming out of it, let alone have on your staff the rest of the season. And I know that we’re more than likely to get substantial innings out of this group of starters than we were from last year’s, but even last year, Hudson and Glavine were thought to be more or less dependable and even they went down.

KC

February 22nd, 2009
2:52 pm

Efrim, I disagree. I think Anderson is a far better choice than Edmonds. See my earlier post about the case for Anderson. He’s a nice addition, if in fact we’re truly getting him.

Bravesologist

February 22nd, 2009
2:52 pm

I don’t like Anderson at all. He’s had a 100 OPS+ 1 time in the past 4 years. I would wait to see if we can make a late trade for Swisher and if it doesn’t work out then go with the young guys. Brandon Jones can outproduce Anderson this season and if he succeeds he would be a viable trade option.

Steve from OH

February 22nd, 2009
2:53 pm

Coxlover, a “win now” philosophy works if you actually bring in good players. Garret Anderson is not a good player anymore.

JasonInFL (Formerly ME)

February 22nd, 2009
2:53 pm

KC, thanks for the link to the Stark article…I had missed it while perusing their site…

Coxlover

February 22nd, 2009
2:55 pm

Steve, Garret Anderson hit .293, 15 HR, 84 RBI last year. How is he not a good player? Heck, he was about 10 times better than Frenchy last year.

C's

February 22nd, 2009
2:57 pm

Anderson’s OPS vs RHP over the last 3 seasons: .799
Edmond’s OPS vs RHP over the last 3 seasons: .860

Chop Chop

February 22nd, 2009
2:58 pm

Doc Holiday,

I guess I should have clarified. If Schafer is the best outfielder we’ve got down at Dark Star this spring, he should be up with the big club. However, signing Garret Anderson would make it easier to not keep Schafer when the team goes to Atlanta. If Schafer ever becomes a good big leaguer that we’re not having to pay for an extra year, I guess we would have Garret Anderson’s one-year deal to thank for it.

You know, if the deal happens.

If.

Coach (Skip and Pete will be missed)

February 22nd, 2009
2:59 pm

OK, I’m gonna throw a monkey wrench at the Garrett Anderson supporter’s.

Why did the Angels award Juan Rivera with a three year 12.75 million contract and leave Garrett Anderson twisting in the damn wind?

Answer that one.

Steve from OH

February 22nd, 2009
2:59 pm

Garret Anderson 2008 OPS+=97. Below Average. Garret Anderson career OPS+=105. Ever so slightly above average. Anderson is also not getting any younger and ain’t no spring chicken out there in LF anymore, either.

He may very well succeed in a platoon situation, and for the amount of money he’ll likely make (2MMish), he’s not going to damage the short or long-term direction of the team. But let’s not kid ourselves–he’s not going to be the difference maker y’all want.

David

February 22nd, 2009
3:00 pm

I just watched hanson throw on the backfield and he looked good. Only one ball was hit hard. Schafer looked really good hitting against Parr. Took two out the opposite way, although one went just foul. Now hitting off of Medlen, he hit a couple ropes to the wall

18 Wheels of Love

February 22nd, 2009
3:02 pm

I like Garrett Anderson…a lot.

Think about this for a minute. Look at the missed deals versus the rebound deals Wren has pulled off.

Jake Peavy: We keep Hanson who everyone says is a future No. 1.
Furcal: Kelly stays at 2B. Ultimately allows us to get G. Anderson?
Smoltz: 5 arm surgeries, definite risk…would block Hanson. Got a horse in Lowe instead.
Griffey: G. Anderson?
Burnett: 1 good, full year. 80m??? Lowe instead…and cheaper and more proven.

If we win or seriously compete this year, it will be mostly on Wren’s 2nd option deals.

Unreal.

Coxlover

February 22nd, 2009
3:03 pm

Steve, GA’s OPS+ of 97 last year may have not been very good but it was a lot better than Frenchy’s OPS+ of 72.

McFann :Ô:

February 22nd, 2009
3:03 pm

KC

February 22nd, 2009
3:04 pm

Also folks, keep in mind that Anderson, if he signs, is likely to platoon with Diaz, and that should be a hell of a platoon. Anderson has more pop vs. lefties, and Diaz has more pop vs. righties. So, based on the numbers…

Here is what you’re likely to get from an Anderson/Diaz platoon:

.290-310 average, 15-20 homers, 80-90 RBI

We were without Diaz most of last year, so adding Anderson to a left-field platoon is very much like adding a player with the above numbers.

If the Braves were to add a left-fielder for 3-4 million (the estimated combined salaries of Diaz, Anderson) who hit .300, 17 homers, 90 RBI… would anyone here think that’s a bad idea. ANYONE???

This is really no different from signing a single player with the above numbers. If true, this would be a very nice pick-up for the Braves.

McFann :Ô:

February 22nd, 2009
3:04 pm

BTW–Thanks for the new Blog, Chief!! I can’t wait to see Hanson pitch!

Efrim

February 22nd, 2009
3:04 pm

KC, we are in two different leagues in terms of what we value dude. I value OBP more than most. Especially for a corner outfield spot. Anderson has never walked more than 38 times in a season and hasn’t had an on base in the .340’s since 2004.

But fine, whatever, he hit’s .290. Nevermind the .320 OBP and .430 SLG he’ll produce.

Steve from OH

February 22nd, 2009
3:05 pm

We’re talking about Anderson, not Frenchy. And yes, Frenchy sucked something terrible last year. No arguments there.

Efrim

February 22nd, 2009
3:06 pm

And KC, please refer to C’s post about Edmonds and Anderson’s OPS vs. RHP.

Bravesologist

February 22nd, 2009
3:06 pm

Well shooting for higher than Francoeur’s last season will leave you with a pretty crappy team. 100 is average and for a left fielder 110 is average. The fact is that he was below average and Brandon Jones is a younger, cheaper, and similar option. If we get Swisher or at least Edmonds who actually has good platoon stats then I would be fine with it. Anderson is not much better than our current options.

David

February 22nd, 2009
3:07 pm

Heyward didn’t look as good as schafer, getting sawed off by Parr, but he did end his round with a bomb to right off of medlen

Coxlover

February 22nd, 2009
3:07 pm

Efrim, well if you value OBP most from a corner outfield spot, I guess you don’t value Frenchy since his OBP was .294 last year and Frenchy’s SLG was .359.

Chop Chop

February 22nd, 2009
3:08 pm

Some of you need to stop fighting it and just drink the damn Kool-Aid already. The Braves want to add a veteran outfield bat. Because the front office and Bobby Cox wants to do this, you need to get on board and stop complaining.

Mizzou Guru

February 22nd, 2009
3:10 pm

O’Brien, you’re still working for the AJC? I guess miracles do occur. You stink! By the way, to quote Bobby Cox about a prospect’s slider being compared to Smoltz is funny. Bobby Cox compared Kelly Johnson to Mazeroski. Hell, if I tried out at SS for the Braves, Bobby would probably compare me to Ozzie Smith. Bobby is a cheerleader for his players. Pull your head from your arse, you KU scumbag.

Coxlover

February 22nd, 2009
3:10 pm

I just find it funny that people are getting upset about the Braves trying to get a guy that hit .293, 15 HR, 84 RBI last year. Remember, the Braves had the worst offensive outfield production in baseball last year. How could it possibly hurt to get a guy that hit .293, 15 HR, 84 RBI last year ?

Efrim

February 22nd, 2009
3:12 pm

Coxlover, it’s an addition to the awful outfield, so yes, it’s a good thing when looking at it that way. But I’m just not going to say that it is a “great” move.

SC Ace

February 22nd, 2009
3:13 pm

Seems like the Braves always bring in one or two aging veterans to waste a roster spot. Remember bringing back Brian Jordan because of his “presence”? Chris Woodward. Raul Mondesi. You guys could fill out the list more, I’m sure.

Doc Holiday

February 22nd, 2009
3:13 pm

Cox Lover,

Are you seriously using JF to say what a good or bad player looks like? last year even Corky miller was better than JF…….well, maybe not.

Run Heap Run

February 22nd, 2009
3:14 pm

McFann that was gross!!!

[...] Jones thinks Hanson will be a #1 starter one day and is ready for the majors now. ”Very impressive. He’s [...]

Bravesologist

February 22nd, 2009
3:15 pm

It’s just a stupid decision. His power numbers are consistently dropping and if we are sticking him in a platoon then Edmonds is simply the better option. Edmonds hits right handers better and defends better as well, it isn’t exactly rocket science to realize that Anderson isn’t the best option. Jones had a down year but I like what I’ve heard from this Spring. I think he can bounce back and be a quality outfielder. We’re going to look pretty dumb when he outproduces Anderson this spring and we have to stick him back at AAA even though he’s our best option on the roster.

TnBrian

February 22nd, 2009
3:16 pm

Now, some of us need to get ready for the anti-Anderson posts. No matter what Wren does, some will bash him for something. Personally, I’m just glad the guy’s doing whatever he thinks is right to improve the team. G.Anderson’s stats the last couple of years aren’t mind blowing, but I really do think a vet like him means something to a team trying to contend again. Like someone mentioned above, he’s a winner, and seems like a good teammate.

In the end, I think no matter who they get for LF, Frenchy is the key anyways, so get Garret and lets start the da- season already.

KC

February 22nd, 2009
3:16 pm

Efrim, Anderson slugges .450 vs. righties last year, and that’s just fine by me for someone hitter .290 plus at the bottom of the order.

Sure, I’d like a higher OBP, but hackers like Diaz and Anderson can drive in a lot of runs, so long as they’re putting the fat part of the bat on the ball with regularity… which they most likely will.

Do you think we should trade half of our farm system for Nady instead? Should we simply trust B.Jones or Blanco?

This signing, if it happens, will help. I’m not saying the guy is anything like the player he was 5 years ago… but he can help. A Diaz/Anderson platoon will be very productive.

ppaddy

February 22nd, 2009
3:17 pm

Well I guess if the Braves DO sign Garrett Anderson, Brandon Jones just became trade bait. I just wonder what the Braves will do with their surplus of “borderline ready MLB outfielders?” Plus, the Braves will have to make room on the 40 man roster if they do sign him.

Doc Holiday

February 22nd, 2009
3:19 pm

SC Ace,

I have to agree with you on your 313 post.

Mizzou Guru,

you are right………I have never ever read a single sentence where cox says something negative about any of his players (not saying that it would be a good thing for him to do so). He always says things like “that kid has the best stuff I have ever seen”, “he is the best defender at his position ever”, “He has talents willie mays would only dream of, he is just having a bad season”. For some reason he always thinks and says his players have gifts out of this world and that we will soon get to see them.

TheManMike

February 22nd, 2009
3:21 pm

I think the season needs to start already; get some of these vultures off the blog. Braves have their BEST prospects in the area for the season, whomever we sign is only filler to the inevitable. I think the future is bright for the Bravos. I think their youthful spirit has returned.

With all the talk on Hanson, this only serves to confirm my opinions. May Hanson be a piece of the ‘New’ Braves – i can’t wait to find out in the Ted…

All the big names remembered in Braves history are the men who made The Big Play. Well, there are a few playmakers on this team and we’ll see if they can create greatness. Chill with all the negativity…………….man.

ssiscribe

February 22nd, 2009
3:21 pm

C's

February 22nd, 2009
3:21 pm

Cox slammed Davies pretty hard for keeping his hamstring injury a secret and then going out there and really hurting it. And he has a few harsh words last year for Jo-Jo.

But yeah, for the most part Cox is homerific when it comes to his players.

TheManMike

February 22nd, 2009
3:22 pm

or, men…………

TheManMike

February 22nd, 2009
3:22 pm

and/or women…..

mbatl

February 22nd, 2009
3:22 pm

“Well I guess if the Braves DO sign Garrett Anderson, Brandon Jones just became trade bait.”

ppaddy, or he just goes down to AAA and works on his game. No big rush to trade him.

Efrim

February 22nd, 2009
3:24 pm

KC, if you have read any of my posts, ever, I am rarely for trading prospects….especially for a player like Xavier Nady. I think the Braves should of signed Abreu or Dunn, but that didn’t happen. I understand why they are going after Anderson, but that doesn’t mean that it’s a great move and makes a ton of sense. And how do you know GA is going to hit at the bottom of the order? I mean, I guess it’s possible, but I think it is too early to think BC would definetly bat Anderson at the bottom third. He loves vets.

dap01

February 22nd, 2009
3:25 pm

Can Garrett Anderson play right field?

Efrim

February 22nd, 2009
3:26 pm

KC- And Jim Edmonds slugged .521 vs. RHP last year. So I really can’t see why you think Anderson is a far better choice than Jim Edmonds.

CVan

February 22nd, 2009
3:28 pm

Is GA a type B free agent? I guess he wasn’t offered arbitration if he was, correct?

Gibby

February 22nd, 2009
3:28 pm

It is nice to see D.O.B. is still willing to give us a rumor. Thank you. The chance at information like this is why I come here and D.O.B. is one of the only reporters that will give you a nugget like his post about Anderson.

big o

February 22nd, 2009
3:28 pm

What’s up Dob ? long time no post !! I would like to see the braves play some small ball steal some bases, hit and run more and use the kids that have speed. Give them a chance. If Hansen is ready I wonder why we needed Vasquez. We should have kept the young kid with power. Because I’m still a believer that power must come from your corner infield positions and the jury is still out on Kotchman for me. HE must be the least mentioned player on this blog.

Bravesologist

February 22nd, 2009
3:28 pm

Yes he can play right field. The only reason I would actually make the move for Anderson was if I didn’t have confidence that Francoeur can come back this season. Anderson hits lefties adequately and if Francoeur tanks you can have an outfield of Anderson, Schafer/JA, and Diaz/Jones. This can’t be said for Edmonds as he hits lefties poorly. Even so, I don’t think this is how the Braves are thinking.

Doc Holiday

February 22nd, 2009
3:30 pm

This is just in:

Kelly Johnson took fielding practice today……….1000 pop ups were hit to him, only 900 ever hit the ground.

Bravesologist

February 22nd, 2009
3:31 pm

That might have been the least funny attempt at a joke I’ve ever read.

Doc Holiday

February 22nd, 2009
3:33 pm

Bravesologist,

You have a very good point there, but im sure Cox will never agree with you on something like that,

Saltywoody

February 22nd, 2009
3:33 pm

So if Garrett Anderson signs with the Braves today, what time will he hold the press conference tomorrow about his returning to the Angels?

Don’t want to miss it.

Canadianbrave

February 22nd, 2009
3:33 pm

I think the Braves believe that if they sign GA the can start JA in centre for his speed, and let Schafer start in AAA. Makes sense to me!

Richie

February 22nd, 2009
3:34 pm

With that #7 pick in this year’s draft, I think we should attempt to draft prospect who can play the infield, 3rd base or a SS we can convert into a 3rd baseman. I said a while ago if the Braves didn’t have intentions on extending Chipper, then they might’ve attempted to talk to teams about their top 3rd base prospects. I would’ve like to the Braves talk to the Pirates about their top 3rd base prospect Neil Walker, who is of similar build in height, weight and attributes to Chipper. Since they are discussing an extension now, I think drafting the top infielding prospect and converting him would be the best option.

Bobby's Belly

February 22nd, 2009
3:34 pm

I’ve preached the business side all winter. Don’t sign Smoltz, Glavine, A. Jones – overpay for D. Lowe, Kawakami, etc. To hold Schafer or anybody down due to the “business side” is ridiculous at this point. Field the best team possible on Day 1.

MGL

February 22nd, 2009
3:34 pm

Efrim and KC -Why don’t you guys get an expert opinion from Terrence Moore on whether Edmonds or Anderson would be a better it?

Fred

February 22nd, 2009
3:34 pm

I’m going on record against signing M. Anderson. Chipper is correct, we desperately need a right handed power hitter in the middle of our lineup. But it appears we are once again pursuing a discounted aging veteran. I think the biggest mistake Wren made this off-season was not trading KJ for Ludwick. That would have added 2 righties to our primarily left-handed lineup (Ludwick and Prado at 2nd base).

TNScott

February 22nd, 2009
3:35 pm

One thing you worth noting about Garrett Anderson is that he would be coming into a new league, lest you forget the struggles of Kasey Kotchman after his tranxition to a new league last year. If this is just a one year deal, I don’t know if this is such a great move.

Richie

February 22nd, 2009
3:35 pm

I just read on Bowman’s Blog that it doesn’t look like Anderson will be platooning in CF. Anderson said after talking with Mr. Cox, they just have a simple game plan against lefties. Here is the link from Bowman’s Blog: http://markbowman.mlblogs.com/. It is in the piece that says Impressions of Kawakami. I mean assuming Josh Anderson wins the CF job in spring training.

Efrim

February 22nd, 2009
3:38 pm

“With that #7 pick in this year’s draft, I think we should attempt to draft prospect who can play the infield, 3rd base or a SS we can convert into a 3rd baseman”

Yea, Grant Green would be nice. But he isn’t going to fall to #7. I’m hoping for one of Matzek, White, Purke, Miller, Crow, Oliver or Gibson….all of which are pitchers.

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