Hey KC I understand what you’re saying but Atlanta is a transplant city. I see it happen in Arizona, Tampa Bay and a lot of other cities that are largely transplant. These people get the schedule and if their a cubs, yankees, red sox or whatever fan they buy the tickets up quickly. When you look at it its smarter if you are a red sox fan to buy a ticket here and catch a cheap flight or train or something. It’s probably cheaper.
I caught the “Bowman controversy”, but missed this deal with Hudson – the blog glitch is preventing me from going back & reading to get caught up on this, can anyone fill me in on this?
Efrim, a hundred ABs for Schafer at AAA, and see how he takes to the advanced pitching. After that, assuming good results, I’d be ready to see him up at any time. If he takes a while to start raking, that’s OK with me, too.
I only worry about how his head will go, if he has a monster spring and still gets sent down. Bloggers always tell a kid in that situation to keep his head up, etc., but, man, it just ain’t that easy.
ok scoots, but it does raise a question. I am not aware of a lot of the MLB rules. How long do they have before they have to put him on the 40 man roster? I would think it would have to be pretty soon. He can’t be on the DL while participating in ST. Or really I guess what I mean is, he can’t be on the 60 day DL dating back to last year so that he could came off of the 60 day just before he is to pitch in the regular season. So I would think he would have to be on the 40 man soon. Which I guess will not be a problem since they can put Huddy on the 60 day DL now.
John Quest #2, not to be confused w/ Mr. Wrestling #1
February 20th, 2009 4:44 pm
Speaking of cheaper, I was in Hawaii a few years ago, and the golf courses were full of Japanese players. I asked why, and found out it was cheaper for them to fly to Hawaii and play, plus it was quicker. They have a waiting list on most cousrses of up to 5 months(in Japan). The funniest thing to see is how they ran to each shot, even if they were in a cart. They are use to running to each shot because of the speed of play necessary in Japan. True story.
I’m pretty much totally on board with Jeff Schultz’s current assessment of Wren’s offseason:
I know. Blame Frank Wren. It’s easy, right? We all want scapegoats, and the relatively new general manager is an easy one.
But don’t go there – at least not yet. Other than low-balling John Smoltz – the one player in the organization who never should have been low-balled – most of this offseason has not been Wren’s fault. Yes, he has been used and certainly hasn’t achieved all of his objectives this offseason.
Btw, denizens earlier were speculating what former braves players might be candidates for having used PEDs — add one:
(In his last three seasons in St. Louis, Pendleton hit .254, .264 and .230. Somehow, he morphed into a .319 hitter and an MVP in 1991).
So . . . Terrence Moore awakes from his winter slumber, finds a source who says that KGJr. is coming to Atlanta, writes an article that leads to a mini-controversy when Griffey chooses not to come, and now decides that he must attack the Braves by going to John, “media whore” Smoltz.
Sorry Terry. No one wants to hear you gripe just because your boy Kenny ain’t come to Atlanta like you promised us.
Sure, the Braves have problems. But, Terrence Moore has bigger problems.
John Smoltz is a blowhard! He and Terrence Moore deserve to fade into eternity together.
Moby Grape, How about this: What are Martin Prado compared to Kelly Johnson’s home/road, day/night stats in 2008? What are their VORPS? How about the quality of the pine or maple bats they might use on a given day/night? Are those good enough?
ncscoots, I agree. I’m still going to root for him to tear the cover off the ball, but deep down, I want him starting the season in the minors. I think it will all work out for the best. He’ll get those two months back that he lost last year.
i think in Spring Training if none of the 4 young players stand out we’ll defintly bring someone in. Swisher, Nady, Anderson all these names have surfaced to the braves having some interest. during spring maybe more options will open up.
First of all, you would think Smoltz would avail himself of modern technology to something about that head of his. UnGodly.
Next, following up on that previous blogger, it will be interesting to see on John’s tent revivalism will work in the Northeast.
i always get a kick out of the little fund raisers sponsored by the wifes that net maybe 100,000 when all they would have to do is get Smoltzie to donate a game check. What a bunch of hypocrites. Pitiful.
SeaAtl, here is the original blurb from NBC Sports:
“But there was clearly some bitterness over the turn of events, some of it directed at media outlets that reported Griffey had decided to play for Atlanta. Pitcher Tim Hudson got into a heated argument in the clubhouse with a newspaper reporter, claiming his story angered Griffey and led him to back out of dealings with the Braves. A team official had to step in and lead Hudson to a back room.”
DOB has said here since that it wasn’t really yelling… just raised voices, and DOB was actually the much calmer of the two in this instance. He said that Hudson wasn’t upset only about the Griffey story, but also about his speculation as to who would be left off the 40-man roster.
Hey KC I understand what you’re saying but Atlanta is a transplant city. I see it happen in Arizona, Tampa Bay and a lot of other cities that are largely transplant. These people get the schedule and if their a cubs, yankees, red sox or whatever fan they buy the tickets up quickly. When you look at it its smarter if you are a red sox fan to buy a ticket here and catch a cheap flight or train or something. It’s probably cheaper.—JakeW
very good points Jake. Atlanta is the southern hub of very many firms based elsewhere. Thousands and thousands of people are transferred there for a few years. Usually not staying long enough to become Braves fans. They stay fans of their home teams and when they go to a braves game it is almost always when their team is in town. Since they are often somewhat homesick they look ahead for when that will happen and scoop up tickets early. That isn’t gonna change for the most part.
I bought Cubs/Reds tickets in Cincy for an ex-boyfriend (Reds fan – no wonder it didn’t work!), and we ended up sitting in a section full of Cubs fans. I’m all for cheering for your own team, but when you boo the home team and scream rude things at their outfielders, that’s just poor sportsmanship. At one point, they looked at us and said, “Yeah! Way to cheer for the worst team in baseball!” I’m clearly not a Reds fan, but even I took offense to that. Cheer for your team or shut up. I can imagine Sox/Yanks fans are equally as bad.
By the way Moby Grape, I do agree with you on the DOB/Wren bashers. It’s getting old and 95% of it’s not even close to the truth. Well, I’d say for Wren, 75% isn’t true.
Jake & Moby, yeah, I know it’s an uphill battle. I’m just saying, all other things being equal, as a Braves fan… try to make it out to those games. It really would be nice if we could fill out the Ted and AT LEAST make it 75% Braves fans here on our home field!!!
TnBrian, I hereby coin the phrase “Wren derangement syndrome”. There are quite a few sufferers that frequent this blog. They are devoid of facts or basic reasoning skills. Just looking for something to b!tch about, and someone to blame everything on.
hi everybody – I listened to the Gammons where he talks about major steroid shipments in Atlanta. It doesn’t sound to me like Gammons was talking about the team in Atlanta (the Braves) I think he was saying that there was a big distributor in the Atlanta area, as well as Tampa, that were shipping out roids labeled as nail polish. That’s not saying that there won’t be some Braves on some of these alleged lists (I hope there’s not) But what Gammons mentioned isn’t talking about the Braves.
I hear that there is little interest in Jim Edmunds by most ML teams. He has no offers on the table currently. If he would accept a minor league deal, maybe the Braves should bring him in to compete with the kids?
That is if they don’t have to put him on the 40 man roster….
So the question is if you bring in a player on a minor league deal does he go on the 40 man roster?
Smoltz, Check that noggin for melanoma. Lot of exposure on that dome.
We still going to call him Smoltzie and worship his tired A$$ when he comes to town?? Everybody stand and give him a standing O.
Is Soriano throwing yet (smoothly) or is he still in the “who in the heck knows” topic for opening day? Did I hear the other day Moylan may be ready by mid-April??
Moby Grape, How about this: What are Martin Prado compared to Kelly Johnson’s home/road, day/night stats in 2008? What are their VORPS? How about the quality of the pine or maple bats they might use on a given day/night? Are those good enough? TnBrian
more foolishness. just make a little sense dude thats all I(and others) ask. Nobody wants to have to read through hundreds of stupid emotional rants about DoB causing a major league star to go elsewhere for instance. Is that all that difficult for you to understand? seems like it might be from your post that I’m responding too. “”I hate you Dob” Chipper goes down on his tean” “Wren is the scourge of the universe” etc gets old after a hundred iterations. So do smarmy childish retorts like yours that show no logic, If you really are too stupid to understand what I was saying, then I feel sorry for you.
john schuerholz was on mlb home plate today, i noticed that he sounds just like hue hefner… did anyone else notice it? try to youtube it if you can its funny
I hear you KC. I try to make it to at least 4 games a year. With working and everything else I usually don’t buy my tickets till about one or two weeks before the game. Because of that its hard to get the games that feature the yanks and sox, especially if its a weekend series. To be quite honest I can’t stand the games with yankee, mets, cubs, or sox fans because they are usually obnoxious and kind of ruin the game.
This column reads like you are still a little upset about all the crap thrown your way about the Griffey lie and con job. I repeat what I said the other day, let everyone who is perfect take a free shot at you, and being perfect in their own eyes doesn’t qualify as perfect either).
I don’t bother writing to your blog often, but since you’ve been writing it, I read it every day it is on the site. You do the best job of covering day to day events that I’ve ever read on any sports team. I don’t always agree with you, but I always respect what you write. You express informed opinions unlike some of your readers who occassionally let their fingers write before their brains are fully engaged. It is a tough time for the Braves and by extension the writers and reporters who cover them. Just take all negative stuff and flush it from your mind. Always remember you get paid to deal with we FANATICS, so you have the last word and the last laugh.
I made this comment yesterday, but probably nobody saw it with the goofy stuff going on teh past few days. The Braves have had a truly horrible offseason. With Peavy, Hampton, AJ, Fucal, Smoltz, and Griffey its really been one embarrassing fiasco after another. Individually you can make a case that Frank Wren was not at fault, but if you look at the whole offseason the one common denominator is Frank Wren. Frankly, its been pretty embarrassing to be a Braves fan this offseason. Does anyone on here really think that John Schurholz would have gotten played, embarrassed, and out-foxed the way Wren has.
Another thought as to why lots of Cubs, Red Sox and Yankees fans show up at Braves games– Granted, they have their feverent fans but there seems to be a lot of transplanted northerners moving south for the warmer climate, lower cost of living and so on. At least I’m seeing that here in coastal SC. Can’t tell you how many times I’ve heard things like “Heeeeyahs how we did it in Baaaston.”
I gotta think that Schafer will start the season in AAA, that way he has less than a full season of major league experiance when the season ends. The Rays did the same thing with Evan Longoria last year.
Whatever Smoltz leaves a $5 tip on a $365.00 tab at Taco Mac-and you’re going expect the guy to be CLASSY? After the divorce I think you’re going to continue to see “new” stuff from ol’ Smoltzie. Realize that the traits that make the guy the ultra-competitive pitcher we all love are sometimes traits that are far from “nice”.
Great pitcher, but not above being a real jerk. Just like most people you & I know (although most guys that have a second comma in their checking account at least tip 10%).
Looking at the internal OF options, assuming Jeffy in RF, the best plan may be to platoon Diaz/Anderson in LF and bring in Schafer for CF if he is ready. Anderson had a .527 SLG against RHP – that’s not too shabby.
The Atlanta steroid dealer stuff that Gammo mentioned could get interesting. If guys like Javy, Andruw, Klesko, Wohlers, etc. get wrapped up in it, maybe some of us will have to take a step back and say, “Well, none of those players are on the team anymore. We always did it clean, baby.”
Anybody else ready to boo Smoltz when he comes back??? I live 200 miles away but I am going to make it a point to be there to do so..I mean, guy is an icon, but the way he has treated the Braves since he left is despicable…Greedy, Greedy, Greedy…I hope he gets absolutely shelled if he pitches against Atlanta and the ultimate justice would be the Braves making the playoffs while the Sox finish 3rd(which I think is a good possibility)…
MGL – You got it. Anderson/Diaz LF platoon. Schafer in CF. Speed kills. Wish DOB or any AJC writers would break down the day to day CF competition for us. It’s the only intriguing story in camp.
–GetNathan_-
If I mis-ascribed that post to you than I sincerely apologize. I was just another moronic spewing of trash and I would not want to connect you to it wrongfully. I can’t get back to it to see where I made my mistake.
–TnBrian–
My last post to you was probably too harsh. Most of what I have read from you so far has not been objectionable in any way.
With this 100 comment limit we have no idea what went on earlier. Any chance DOB could post his blog messages again so those of us not here all afternoon can catch up?
Man, I’d love to see Jermaine Dye in left field for the Braves…talk about a potent right handed bat hitting between Chipper and McCann. If the Braves could get that deal done, they’d be real contenders. As is, there is just too much uncertainty in the outfield to put them on par with the Mets or Phillies (despite all the solid improvement to the pitching staff).
Yeah, terrible offseason for Wren. Picked up 4 proven starting pitchers while basically hanging on to all of the organization’s prospects. Most GMs get that done in a week. Sheesh.
Hey if you guys want Nady the Braves will have to include a place for him to stay. Him and Damon are caught in yet another investment scandal and all their money is frozen. Nady can’t put the money down on the apartment in NYC he wants to rent for the season. Damon said right now he can’t pay his bills.
To be fair it seems to just be technicality for them and they should get all their money. But they were very close to getting hammered had they invested in some of the other stuff the investment house they employed was involved with.
Smoltz at Taco Mac: I’m very sorry the government taxes their tips, thats f’d up. That ain’t my fualt. It would seem to me that waitresses are one of the many groups the governmnet f’s in the a$$ on a regular basis. Look ask me to sign something that says the government shouldn’t do that, I’ll sign it, put it to a vote, I’ll vote for it, but what I won’t do is play ball. As for this non college BS I got two words for that: learn to f’n type. Cause if you’re expecting me to help out with the rent you’re in for a big f’n surprise.
Go to “Mike and Mike” on the page and click “Play.” Gammons appears on there at about the 8:30 mark. He talks about the latest A-Rod stuff first, but he also mentions two different steroid dealer cases: one in Tampa and one in Atlanta (that’s around the 12-minute mark).
Yeah, the way I heard the Gammons interview (which is on the Mike and Mike link at ESPN Radio), I think he meant a steroid dealer in Atlanta, not necessarily one who had any contact with the Braves.
Makes sense if you think about it, since Atlanta is such a commercial/corporate/cargo airline hub. You’d think Atlanta, Dallas, Phoenix, heck, even Denver would be logical distribution sites.
It’s one thing to ask someone to take less money when you are winning and another thing when your losing. That tactic will not work right now.The front office needs to change how they go about their business now.
Anders – the Stanford story does not make sense, re Nady + Johnny D becuase if their brokers CLEAR through Stanford Bank and the governemnt freezes those assets pending a full audit or worse it is another MADOFF and the PONZI has lost or stolen funds then they would be at risk… that is the way the story is written anyway….
Hey everyone- guess what? The Squaws drool, that’s what. And to this DOB character who supposedly lost Griffey for the Squaws, thanks for your efforts, but we didn’t need you. Nobody wants to play for the Squaws bc you guys are a crappy fan base. We show up in droves for a 100 loss team, while you bunch o’ jerks can;t even fill a stadium in the playoffs. SQUAWS!!
Webhead – Spent to much on guys who can play already. Don’t need them spending $$ on has been’s when that $$$ may be needed in June/July. Let the kids play.
this M’s guy has hit the nail on the head. i’ve never seen a more poignant observationist. the squaws do suck, and I am more bad ass than chipper will ever be
Daybed, from bloggers (several had same question) I asked him about his goals this season and about being a No. 5 starter after all those years at/near top of the rotation:
“I’m fortunate that I have played this game long enough that I’m kind of going back to that role at this state of my career. I’m fortunate that I’ve been able to stay around long enough that my career has kind of come full-circle. I’m looking forward to it.”
“As far as my goals this year, honestly, my only goal is to be healthy. That was my goal in any of my most successful years. If I can stay healthy, they I’ll go out there and do what I’m capable of doing. Whether that ‘s win 10 or 15 games, I don’t know what that is. But if I stay healthy, I’ll have a sucessful season.”
Oh, and someone asked me to ask if this would be his final year.
He said too early to know, he’d have to see how this season goes. Said there were a lot of times last year he didn’t even think he’d be pitching this season.
M’Rule – Are you bragging about supporting a 100 loss team? I suppose you also kept eating peanut butter from our GA manufacturer. Undying support …. you can have it.
Wish DOB or any AJC writers would break down the day to day CF competition for us. It’s the only intriguing story in camp. Bobby’s Belly
Break down the “day-to-day competition”? Dude, they haven’t even played a game yet. Schafer’s hitting on a backfield. What, do you want me to say, something like: “Josh Anderson moved ahead in the competition based on the fact he hit three balls to the opposite field during b.p. against Charlie Morton, and one to the warning track in extra-BP on a 65-mph “fastball” from Chino? Meanwhile, Schafer hit on a backfield and Bobby didn’t see him, so he fell back two spots.”
Great – Stay healthy and win 10 games – SUCCESS! 4 mil for that? Those of you who wanted him so badly deserve him. How ’bout playoffs, WS, helping young guys, etc. Nope – Need to make one last cash.
Just listened to the Gammons interview (thanks, Chop Chop & BFIR). Agree that it just sounds like there may be a mail-order operation in Atlanta, not so much that ATL players are involved.
What got me was how in denial Gammons is, about how in denial A-Rod is. Asked directly if he thought A-Rod was truthful in that original interview, Gammons danced around it but just could not bring himself to say anything approaching “no”.
That’s a problem with a lot of this type of coverage; you’ve got baseball reporters trying to be investigative reporters, but the guys they’re investigating are their bread and butter.
Fat Guy- I went to a Squaws World Series game, and got tix at the box office…1 hour before the first pitch. All you Squaws fans were too busy stuffing your faces with rotten peaches to even know you were in the Series. But, granted, the Squaws are just lame, even when they do win the pennant
No offense to the folks who post here, but there are times when I pop in just to see what kind of info DOB has posted and nothing more. This pagena…….whatever they call it really sucks! If DOB posts some info at 10 am this morning and I don’t get home and check the blog until 5 pm….guess what? His info is LONG GONE, replaced by comments from jack legs like myself.
This is an important time of year to pick up tidbits of info about the team. Those tidbits are long gone by the time I get here.
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Jake W.
February 20th, 2009
4:39 pm
Hey KC I understand what you’re saying but Atlanta is a transplant city. I see it happen in Arizona, Tampa Bay and a lot of other cities that are largely transplant. These people get the schedule and if their a cubs, yankees, red sox or whatever fan they buy the tickets up quickly. When you look at it its smarter if you are a red sox fan to buy a ticket here and catch a cheap flight or train or something. It’s probably cheaper.
C's
February 20th, 2009
4:40 pm
Moby – I see your point.
McFann :Ô:
February 20th, 2009
4:40 pm
KC It’s always somewhat embarrassing to me when the Cubs fans are louder than Braves fans IN ATLANTA!!!
Ugh…tell me about it.
We went to a Cubs game last year, and let me tell you–those were the most annoying fans I’ve ever been around!
Coach (Skip and Pete will be missed)
February 20th, 2009
4:40 pm
Lets see if I have this right.
David O’Brien just mentioned the importance of speed on the team. Holy moly, I’m gonna faint!
Hudson vs. O’Brien, mountain out of a mole hill if you ask me.
Griffy first contacted the Braves. The platoon was mentioned in DOB’s Blog. Griffy wants to play everyday, why can’t people put two and two together?
Email? LOL. Just blog people , just blog.
McFann :Ô:
February 20th, 2009
4:42 pm
BA @ 3:48: “Tomas, Hudson was yelling at DOB. He was just so frustrated with the new format here and the whole ‘last 100 comments’ issue.”
LOL!
SeaAtl
February 20th, 2009
4:42 pm
I caught the “Bowman controversy”, but missed this deal with Hudson – the blog glitch is preventing me from going back & reading to get caught up on this, can anyone fill me in on this?
Daniel
February 20th, 2009
4:42 pm
TnBrian
you are right on the money
ncscoots
February 20th, 2009
4:43 pm
Efrim, a hundred ABs for Schafer at AAA, and see how he takes to the advanced pitching. After that, assuming good results, I’d be ready to see him up at any time. If he takes a while to start raking, that’s OK with me, too.
I only worry about how his head will go, if he has a monster spring and still gets sent down. Bloggers always tell a kid in that situation to keep his head up, etc., but, man, it just ain’t that easy.
PTBNL
February 20th, 2009
4:43 pm
ok scoots, but it does raise a question. I am not aware of a lot of the MLB rules. How long do they have before they have to put him on the 40 man roster? I would think it would have to be pretty soon. He can’t be on the DL while participating in ST. Or really I guess what I mean is, he can’t be on the 60 day DL dating back to last year so that he could came off of the 60 day just before he is to pitch in the regular season. So I would think he would have to be on the 40 man soon. Which I guess will not be a problem since they can put Huddy on the 60 day DL now.
John Quest #2, not to be confused w/ Mr. Wrestling #1
February 20th, 2009
4:44 pm
Speaking of cheaper, I was in Hawaii a few years ago, and the golf courses were full of Japanese players. I asked why, and found out it was cheaper for them to fly to Hawaii and play, plus it was quicker. They have a waiting list on most cousrses of up to 5 months(in Japan). The funniest thing to see is how they ran to each shot, even if they were in a cart. They are use to running to each shot because of the speed of play necessary in Japan. True story.
Random
February 20th, 2009
4:45 pm
I’m pretty much totally on board with Jeff Schultz’s current assessment of Wren’s offseason:
I know. Blame Frank Wren. It’s easy, right? We all want scapegoats, and the relatively new general manager is an easy one.
But don’t go there – at least not yet. Other than low-balling John Smoltz – the one player in the organization who never should have been low-balled – most of this offseason has not been Wren’s fault. Yes, he has been used and certainly hasn’t achieved all of his objectives this offseason.
Btw, denizens earlier were speculating what former braves players might be candidates for having used PEDs — add one:
(In his last three seasons in St. Louis, Pendleton hit .254, .264 and .230. Somehow, he morphed into a .319 hitter and an MVP in 1991).
brent a.
February 20th, 2009
4:45 pm
So . . . Terrence Moore awakes from his winter slumber, finds a source who says that KGJr. is coming to Atlanta, writes an article that leads to a mini-controversy when Griffey chooses not to come, and now decides that he must attack the Braves by going to John, “media whore” Smoltz.
Sorry Terry. No one wants to hear you gripe just because your boy Kenny ain’t come to Atlanta like you promised us.
Sure, the Braves have problems. But, Terrence Moore has bigger problems.
John Smoltz is a blowhard! He and Terrence Moore deserve to fade into eternity together.
DCBrave
February 20th, 2009
4:46 pm
SeaAtl-
DOB says (seriously) that the Braves have decided to put Hudson on the 60-day DL.
getnathan
February 20th, 2009
4:47 pm
MobyGrape,
I didn’t post that message. R.I.F. (Reading Is Fundamental)
TnBrian
February 20th, 2009
4:47 pm
Moby Grape, How about this: What are Martin Prado compared to Kelly Johnson’s home/road, day/night stats in 2008? What are their VORPS? How about the quality of the pine or maple bats they might use on a given day/night? Are those good enough?
Efrim
February 20th, 2009
4:47 pm
ncscoots, I agree. I’m still going to root for him to tear the cover off the ball, but deep down, I want him starting the season in the minors. I think it will all work out for the best. He’ll get those two months back that he lost last year.
Ryan
February 20th, 2009
4:48 pm
i think in Spring Training if none of the 4 young players stand out we’ll defintly bring someone in. Swisher, Nady, Anderson all these names have surfaced to the braves having some interest. during spring maybe more options will open up.
Earl Williams
February 20th, 2009
4:48 pm
First of all, you would think Smoltz would avail himself of modern technology to something about that head of his. UnGodly.
Next, following up on that previous blogger, it will be interesting to see on John’s tent revivalism will work in the Northeast.
i always get a kick out of the little fund raisers sponsored by the wifes that net maybe 100,000 when all they would have to do is get Smoltzie to donate a game check. What a bunch of hypocrites. Pitiful.
KC
February 20th, 2009
4:48 pm
SeaAtl, here is the original blurb from NBC Sports:
“But there was clearly some bitterness over the turn of events, some of it directed at media outlets that reported Griffey had decided to play for Atlanta. Pitcher Tim Hudson got into a heated argument in the clubhouse with a newspaper reporter, claiming his story angered Griffey and led him to back out of dealings with the Braves. A team official had to step in and lead Hudson to a back room.”
DOB has said here since that it wasn’t really yelling… just raised voices, and DOB was actually the much calmer of the two in this instance. He said that Hudson wasn’t upset only about the Griffey story, but also about his speculation as to who would be left off the 40-man roster.
Moby Grape
February 20th, 2009
4:48 pm
Hey KC I understand what you’re saying but Atlanta is a transplant city. I see it happen in Arizona, Tampa Bay and a lot of other cities that are largely transplant. These people get the schedule and if their a cubs, yankees, red sox or whatever fan they buy the tickets up quickly. When you look at it its smarter if you are a red sox fan to buy a ticket here and catch a cheap flight or train or something. It’s probably cheaper.—JakeW
very good points Jake. Atlanta is the southern hub of very many firms based elsewhere. Thousands and thousands of people are transferred there for a few years. Usually not staying long enough to become Braves fans. They stay fans of their home teams and when they go to a braves game it is almost always when their team is in town. Since they are often somewhat homesick they look ahead for when that will happen and scoop up tickets early. That isn’t gonna change for the most part.
OHBravesGirl
February 20th, 2009
4:49 pm
I bought Cubs/Reds tickets in Cincy for an ex-boyfriend (Reds fan – no wonder it didn’t work!), and we ended up sitting in a section full of Cubs fans. I’m all for cheering for your own team, but when you boo the home team and scream rude things at their outfielders, that’s just poor sportsmanship. At one point, they looked at us and said, “Yeah! Way to cheer for the worst team in baseball!” I’m clearly not a Reds fan, but even I took offense to that. Cheer for your team or shut up. I can imagine Sox/Yanks fans are equally as bad.
KC
February 20th, 2009
4:49 pm
Earl, who is Smoltz? Is he a baseball player?
brent a.
February 20th, 2009
4:50 pm
JQ #2,
the 4th of July game of which you speak was in 1985, not the 1970’s.
TnBrian
February 20th, 2009
4:50 pm
By the way Moby Grape, I do agree with you on the DOB/Wren bashers. It’s getting old and 95% of it’s not even close to the truth. Well, I’d say for Wren, 75% isn’t true.
KC
February 20th, 2009
4:51 pm
Jake & Moby, yeah, I know it’s an uphill battle. I’m just saying, all other things being equal, as a Braves fan… try to make it out to those games. It really would be nice if we could fill out the Ted and AT LEAST make it 75% Braves fans here on our home field!!!
Wayne in Utah
February 20th, 2009
4:52 pm
Is anybody else getting tired of seeing John Smoltz’ mug with a Red Sox cap on the AJC??
McFann
I strive to be that obnoxious Braves fan at the other guys home field (Denver, Phoenix, SF, etc.)!
John Quest #2
February 20th, 2009
4:53 pm
brent a. – i had a 15 year buzz going then, thanks for the correction:roll:
KC
February 20th, 2009
4:53 pm
TnBrian, I hereby coin the phrase “Wren derangement syndrome”. There are quite a few sufferers that frequent this blog. They are devoid of facts or basic reasoning skills. Just looking for something to b!tch about, and someone to blame everything on.
DMBJAMS
February 20th, 2009
4:53 pm
I can’t stand reading the crap T. Moore puts out there. I really can’t believe he still has a job here in Atlanta.
flange1
February 20th, 2009
4:53 pm
Question for the group, if the Braves bring someone in on a minor league contract, they DO NOT have to be on the 40 man. Isn’t that correct?
I hear there is no interest in Edmunds…Why not offer a minor league deal and let him give the kids some competition?
Ryan
February 20th, 2009
4:54 pm
Enter your comments here
Wayne in Utah
February 20th, 2009
4:56 pm
So Huddy is reading the blog, eh?? Whasshappninn Huddy??
The Artist Formerly Known as Too Hot For Teacher
February 20th, 2009
4:57 pm
hi everybody – I listened to the Gammons where he talks about major steroid shipments in Atlanta. It doesn’t sound to me like Gammons was talking about the team in Atlanta (the Braves) I think he was saying that there was a big distributor in the Atlanta area, as well as Tampa, that were shipping out roids labeled as nail polish. That’s not saying that there won’t be some Braves on some of these alleged lists (I hope there’s not) But what Gammons mentioned isn’t talking about the Braves.
Danga
February 20th, 2009
4:57 pm
So glad other people have picked up the “Enter your comments here.” mantle.
flange1
February 20th, 2009
4:57 pm
As usual, I messed it up again:
Redo
I hear that there is little interest in Jim Edmunds by most ML teams. He has no offers on the table currently. If he would accept a minor league deal, maybe the Braves should bring him in to compete with the kids?
That is if they don’t have to put him on the 40 man roster….
So the question is if you bring in a player on a minor league deal does he go on the 40 man roster?
I think the answer is NO.
Thoughts?
Derma Check
February 20th, 2009
4:59 pm
Smoltz, Check that noggin for melanoma. Lot of exposure on that dome.
We still going to call him Smoltzie and worship his tired A$$ when he comes to town?? Everybody stand and give him a standing O.
Wayne in Utah
February 20th, 2009
4:59 pm
I heard someone say on XM earlier today that they thought the Braves might have some interesst in Luis Gonzo. Hope that ain’t true.
I like Edmonds much better…
Danga
February 20th, 2009
4:59 pm
He could come into camp as a non-roster invitee, no?
Chuck James was Solid until the 6th!!!
February 20th, 2009
4:59 pm
Is Soriano throwing yet (smoothly) or is he still in the “who in the heck knows” topic for opening day? Did I hear the other day Moylan may be ready by mid-April??
Bobby's Belly
February 20th, 2009
5:00 pm
If Schafer has a better spring than Anderson/Blanco bring him up Day 1. He went to Mexico to make up for the missed AB’s.
SeaAtl
February 20th, 2009
5:01 pm
KC – thanks. But, WOW – I’ve been a Huddy fan, partly because he’s a fellow Auburn alum. But also ’cause he’s a great pitcher and he seemed cool.
Moby Grape
February 20th, 2009
5:01 pm
Moby Grape, How about this: What are Martin Prado compared to Kelly Johnson’s home/road, day/night stats in 2008? What are their VORPS? How about the quality of the pine or maple bats they might use on a given day/night? Are those good enough? TnBrian
more foolishness. just make a little sense dude thats all I(and others) ask. Nobody wants to have to read through hundreds of stupid emotional rants about DoB causing a major league star to go elsewhere for instance. Is that all that difficult for you to understand? seems like it might be from your post that I’m responding too. “”I hate you Dob” Chipper goes down on his tean” “Wren is the scourge of the universe” etc gets old after a hundred iterations. So do smarmy childish retorts like yours that show no logic, If you really are too stupid to understand what I was saying, then I feel sorry for you.
Eric In Albany N.Y.
February 20th, 2009
5:02 pm
john schuerholz was on mlb home plate today, i noticed that he sounds just like hue hefner… did anyone else notice it? try to youtube it if you can its funny
Jake W.
February 20th, 2009
5:02 pm
I hear you KC. I try to make it to at least 4 games a year. With working and everything else I usually don’t buy my tickets till about one or two weeks before the game. Because of that its hard to get the games that feature the yanks and sox, especially if its a weekend series. To be quite honest I can’t stand the games with yankee, mets, cubs, or sox fans because they are usually obnoxious and kind of ruin the game.
UGA 75
February 20th, 2009
5:03 pm
DOB
This column reads like you are still a little upset about all the crap thrown your way about the Griffey lie and con job. I repeat what I said the other day, let everyone who is perfect take a free shot at you, and being perfect in their own eyes doesn’t qualify as perfect either).
I don’t bother writing to your blog often, but since you’ve been writing it, I read it every day it is on the site. You do the best job of covering day to day events that I’ve ever read on any sports team. I don’t always agree with you, but I always respect what you write. You express informed opinions unlike some of your readers who occassionally let their fingers write before their brains are fully engaged. It is a tough time for the Braves and by extension the writers and reporters who cover them. Just take all negative stuff and flush it from your mind. Always remember you get paid to deal with we FANATICS, so you have the last word and the last laugh.
Danga
February 20th, 2009
5:04 pm
Good riddance Shea.
http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?rn=207187&cl=12105272&ch=207401&src=sports
Wayne in Utah
February 20th, 2009
5:05 pm
flange1
A minor league contract doesn’t take the spot on the 40 man roster.
Nate
February 20th, 2009
5:06 pm
I made this comment yesterday, but probably nobody saw it with the goofy stuff going on teh past few days. The Braves have had a truly horrible offseason. With Peavy, Hampton, AJ, Fucal, Smoltz, and Griffey its really been one embarrassing fiasco after another. Individually you can make a case that Frank Wren was not at fault, but if you look at the whole offseason the one common denominator is Frank Wren. Frankly, its been pretty embarrassing to be a Braves fan this offseason. Does anyone on here really think that John Schurholz would have gotten played, embarrassed, and out-foxed the way Wren has.
flange1
February 20th, 2009
5:07 pm
Thanks Wayne!
brent a.
February 20th, 2009
5:07 pm
Nate,
I made a similar post 2 nights ago. It’s true. FW is the one common denominator in all of these failed equations.
Just doesn’t mean that I want to hear more about it from John Smoltz and Terrence Moore.
SCRusty
February 20th, 2009
5:08 pm
Another thought as to why lots of Cubs, Red Sox and Yankees fans show up at Braves games– Granted, they have their feverent fans but there seems to be a lot of transplanted northerners moving south for the warmer climate, lower cost of living and so on. At least I’m seeing that here in coastal SC. Can’t tell you how many times I’ve heard things like “Heeeeyahs how we did it in Baaaston.”
DMBJAMS
February 20th, 2009
5:08 pm
UGA 75,
Agree 100%. DOB is the best reporter in Atlanta.
TnBrian
February 20th, 2009
5:09 pm
Moby, my 4:50 comment should clear up the confusion you have with me.
Nate
February 20th, 2009
5:09 pm
I gotta think that Schafer will start the season in AAA, that way he has less than a full season of major league experiance when the season ends. The Rays did the same thing with Evan Longoria last year.
Tony C.
February 20th, 2009
5:10 pm
Whatever Smoltz leaves a $5 tip on a $365.00 tab at Taco Mac-and you’re going expect the guy to be CLASSY? After the divorce I think you’re going to continue to see “new” stuff from ol’ Smoltzie. Realize that the traits that make the guy the ultra-competitive pitcher we all love are sometimes traits that are far from “nice”.
Great pitcher, but not above being a real jerk. Just like most people you & I know (although most guys that have a second comma in their checking account at least tip 10%).
MGL
February 20th, 2009
5:10 pm
Looking at the internal OF options, assuming Jeffy in RF, the best plan may be to platoon Diaz/Anderson in LF and bring in Schafer for CF if he is ready. Anderson had a .527 SLG against RHP – that’s not too shabby.
Tony C.
February 20th, 2009
5:11 pm
and BTW, a 10% tip is STILL cheap (your bartender and waitstaff are looking for 20% for good service).
John Quest #2
February 20th, 2009
5:12 pm
Moby and company, you are so right. In an effort to clear this blog, all non-adults need to go here ASAP:http://mycyc.com/
Great board-room today!
Wayne in Utah
February 20th, 2009
5:12 pm
Peter Gammons: “Alex, what can you tell us about this steroid report?”
A-Rod: “Hey Petie, did you check out my new gurl-friend!”
A-Rod: “Does my hair look OK?”
Chop Chop
February 20th, 2009
5:16 pm
The Atlanta steroid dealer stuff that Gammo mentioned could get interesting. If guys like Javy, Andruw, Klesko, Wohlers, etc. get wrapped up in it, maybe some of us will have to take a step back and say, “Well, none of those players are on the team anymore. We always did it clean, baby.”
(Ha.)
Mark
February 20th, 2009
5:20 pm
Anybody else ready to boo Smoltz when he comes back??? I live 200 miles away but I am going to make it a point to be there to do so..I mean, guy is an icon, but the way he has treated the Braves since he left is despicable…Greedy, Greedy, Greedy…I hope he gets absolutely shelled if he pitches against Atlanta and the ultimate justice would be the Braves making the playoffs while the Sox finish 3rd(which I think is a good possibility)…
Bobby's Belly
February 20th, 2009
5:20 pm
MGL – You got it. Anderson/Diaz LF platoon. Schafer in CF. Speed kills. Wish DOB or any AJC writers would break down the day to day CF competition for us. It’s the only intriguing story in camp.
Moby Grape
February 20th, 2009
5:21 pm
–GetNathan_-
If I mis-ascribed that post to you than I sincerely apologize. I was just another moronic spewing of trash and I would not want to connect you to it wrongfully. I can’t get back to it to see where I made my mistake.
–TnBrian–
My last post to you was probably too harsh. Most of what I have read from you so far has not been objectionable in any way.
Steve McP
February 20th, 2009
5:22 pm
With this 100 comment limit we have no idea what went on earlier. Any chance DOB could post his blog messages again so those of us not here all afternoon can catch up?
richbrave
February 20th, 2009
5:23 pm
TONY C:
At $2.13 per hour (minimum wage for wait staff) I can see why. TIP the person working for you.
Robert
February 20th, 2009
5:23 pm
Man, I’d love to see Jermaine Dye in left field for the Braves…talk about a potent right handed bat hitting between Chipper and McCann. If the Braves could get that deal done, they’d be real contenders. As is, there is just too much uncertainty in the outfield to put them on par with the Mets or Phillies (despite all the solid improvement to the pitching staff).
Couch Tater
February 20th, 2009
5:28 pm
Chop Chop
Which Gammons interview are you referring? (I can’t go back and search d@mmit.)
Wayne in Utah
February 20th, 2009
5:30 pm
Robert
While Dye would be a great fit between Hoss and Baby Huey, I think the Braves would have a real challenge fitting in his salary.
He is a butcher in the field though…
ArkyTech
February 20th, 2009
5:32 pm
Yeah, terrible offseason for Wren. Picked up 4 proven starting pitchers while basically hanging on to all of the organization’s prospects. Most GMs get that done in a week. Sheesh.
Anders
February 20th, 2009
5:33 pm
Hey if you guys want Nady the Braves will have to include a place for him to stay. Him and Damon are caught in yet another investment scandal and all their money is frozen. Nady can’t put the money down on the apartment in NYC he wants to rent for the season. Damon said right now he can’t pay his bills.
To be fair it seems to just be technicality for them and they should get all their money. But they were very close to getting hammered had they invested in some of the other stuff the investment house they employed was involved with.
Hillbilly
February 20th, 2009
5:33 pm
Put me on the list of voters that think the 100 post cut-off sucks big-time. But you better count my fast, because this post will be gone in an hour.
Wayne in Utah
February 20th, 2009
5:35 pm
I’d love to see the Dodgers tell Scott Boras that the offer is going to be reduced by 5 million for every week he delays.
Daybed Wagmoe
February 20th, 2009
5:41 pm
DOB – how’d the conference call with Glavine go this morning? What question, if any, did you ask him? Any from bloggers?
Luther
February 20th, 2009
5:42 pm
Smoltz at Taco Mac: I’m very sorry the government taxes their tips, thats f’d up. That ain’t my fualt. It would seem to me that waitresses are one of the many groups the governmnet f’s in the a$$ on a regular basis. Look ask me to sign something that says the government shouldn’t do that, I’ll sign it, put it to a vote, I’ll vote for it, but what I won’t do is play ball. As for this non college BS I got two words for that: learn to f’n type. Cause if you’re expecting me to help out with the rent you’re in for a big f’n surprise.
TnBrian
February 20th, 2009
5:42 pm
Anders, that wouldn’t be problem. Nady can sleep on my living room couch if you can promise to snag him for us.
john doe
February 20th, 2009
5:42 pm
so now what? you play to win the games. you bum.
Wayne in Utah
February 20th, 2009
5:44 pm
I wonder if Blake DeWitt of the Dodgers could be had? He might be a decent replacement eventually for Chipper.
McFann :Ô:
February 20th, 2009
5:46 pm
Wayne–
Yeah! Me, too…one-a these days…
Hey, my brother just informed me that you guys liked my Joseph A. Bank joke. Thanks, glad y’all liked it.
Woulda said something sooner, but I didn’t get to see the responses on accounta because they got deleted…
Chop Chop
February 20th, 2009
5:47 pm
Couch Tater
http://espnradio.espn.go.com/espnradio/index
Go to “Mike and Mike” on the page and click “Play.” Gammons appears on there at about the 8:30 mark. He talks about the latest A-Rod stuff first, but he also mentions two different steroid dealer cases: one in Tampa and one in Atlanta (that’s around the 12-minute mark).
dogsbrekky
February 20th, 2009
5:47 pm
Tony C – Smoltz must be learning tipping techniques from Tiger (who shafted VIP host/waitress friend of mine in Vegas)
Anyone heard a rumor about another major name +ve PED test coming out, a certain 1st baseman ??
BravesFanInRockies
February 20th, 2009
5:55 pm
TAFKATHFT,
Yeah, the way I heard the Gammons interview (which is on the Mike and Mike link at ESPN Radio), I think he meant a steroid dealer in Atlanta, not necessarily one who had any contact with the Braves.
Makes sense if you think about it, since Atlanta is such a commercial/corporate/cargo airline hub. You’d think Atlanta, Dallas, Phoenix, heck, even Denver would be logical distribution sites.
Coxlover
February 20th, 2009
5:56 pm
Gammons said nothing about any Braves players being involved.
David O'Brien
February 20th, 2009
5:58 pm
Chipper was a bit sick today, missed the workout. No big deal, should be back tomorrow.
Coxlover
February 20th, 2009
5:59 pm
Hopefully Hudson didn’t poison Chipper.
Bobby's Belly
February 20th, 2009
6:02 pm
Get back on the horse Dave. Give us a little Cosell of you vs. Huddy.
Wayne in Utah
February 20th, 2009
6:03 pm
Hey, McFann, let’s get a redo on that joke. I could use a laugh this afternoon…..
Webhead
February 20th, 2009
6:03 pm
It’s one thing to ask someone to take less money when you are winning and another thing when your losing. That tactic will not work right now.The front office needs to change how they go about their business now.
dogsbrekky
February 20th, 2009
6:04 pm
Anders – the Stanford story does not make sense, re Nady + Johnny D becuase if their brokers CLEAR through Stanford Bank and the governemnt freezes those assets pending a full audit or worse it is another MADOFF and the PONZI has lost or stolen funds then they would be at risk… that is the way the story is written anyway….
M'sRuleSquawsDrool
February 20th, 2009
6:06 pm
Hey everyone- guess what? The Squaws drool, that’s what. And to this DOB character who supposedly lost Griffey for the Squaws, thanks for your efforts, but we didn’t need you. Nobody wants to play for the Squaws bc you guys are a crappy fan base. We show up in droves for a 100 loss team, while you bunch o’ jerks can;t even fill a stadium in the playoffs. SQUAWS!!
Bobby's Belly
February 20th, 2009
6:07 pm
Webhead – Spent to much on guys who can play already. Don’t need them spending $$ on has been’s when that $$$ may be needed in June/July. Let the kids play.
Bret Boone
February 20th, 2009
6:08 pm
this M’s guy has hit the nail on the head. i’ve never seen a more poignant observationist. the squaws do suck, and I am more bad ass than chipper will ever be
David O'Brien
February 20th, 2009
6:09 pm
Daybed, from bloggers (several had same question) I asked him about his goals this season and about being a No. 5 starter after all those years at/near top of the rotation:
“I’m fortunate that I have played this game long enough that I’m kind of going back to that role at this state of my career. I’m fortunate that I’ve been able to stay around long enough that my career has kind of come full-circle. I’m looking forward to it.”
“As far as my goals this year, honestly, my only goal is to be healthy. That was my goal in any of my most successful years. If I can stay healthy, they I’ll go out there and do what I’m capable of doing. Whether that ‘s win 10 or 15 games, I don’t know what that is. But if I stay healthy, I’ll have a sucessful season.”
Oh, and someone asked me to ask if this would be his final year.
He said too early to know, he’d have to see how this season goes. Said there were a lot of times last year he didn’t even think he’d be pitching this season.
Bobby's Belly
February 20th, 2009
6:10 pm
M’Rule – Are you bragging about supporting a 100 loss team? I suppose you also kept eating peanut butter from our GA manufacturer. Undying support …. you can have it.
David O'Brien
February 20th, 2009
6:14 pm
Wish DOB or any AJC writers would break down the day to day CF competition for us. It’s the only intriguing story in camp. Bobby’s Belly
Break down the “day-to-day competition”? Dude, they haven’t even played a game yet. Schafer’s hitting on a backfield. What, do you want me to say, something like: “Josh Anderson moved ahead in the competition based on the fact he hit three balls to the opposite field during b.p. against Charlie Morton, and one to the warning track in extra-BP on a 65-mph “fastball” from Chino? Meanwhile, Schafer hit on a backfield and Bobby didn’t see him, so he fell back two spots.”
Bobby's Belly
February 20th, 2009
6:15 pm
Great – Stay healthy and win 10 games – SUCCESS! 4 mil for that? Those of you who wanted him so badly deserve him. How ’bout playoffs, WS, helping young guys, etc. Nope – Need to make one last cash.
mbatl
February 20th, 2009
6:16 pm
Just listened to the Gammons interview (thanks, Chop Chop & BFIR). Agree that it just sounds like there may be a mail-order operation in Atlanta, not so much that ATL players are involved.
What got me was how in denial Gammons is, about how in denial A-Rod is. Asked directly if he thought A-Rod was truthful in that original interview, Gammons danced around it but just could not bring himself to say anything approaching “no”.
That’s a problem with a lot of this type of coverage; you’ve got baseball reporters trying to be investigative reporters, but the guys they’re investigating are their bread and butter.
M'sRuleSquawsDrool
February 20th, 2009
6:16 pm
Fat Guy- I went to a Squaws World Series game, and got tix at the box office…1 hour before the first pitch. All you Squaws fans were too busy stuffing your faces with rotten peaches to even know you were in the Series. But, granted, the Squaws are just lame, even when they do win the pennant
This Blog Is Seriously Sick
February 20th, 2009
6:17 pm
No offense to the folks who post here, but there are times when I pop in just to see what kind of info DOB has posted and nothing more. This pagena…….whatever they call it really sucks! If DOB posts some info at 10 am this morning and I don’t get home and check the blog until 5 pm….guess what? His info is LONG GONE, replaced by comments from jack legs like myself.
This is an important time of year to pick up tidbits of info about the team. Those tidbits are long gone by the time I get here.
J.D.
February 20th, 2009
6:17 pm
Haha DOB, the 6:14 was hilarious
Couch Tater
February 20th, 2009
6:17 pm
Chop Chop,
Thanks.