12:32 am February 20, 2009, by David O'Brien
February 20th, 20093:48 pm
It’s just SO laughable that Smoltz says he wasn’t given a choice whether he could stay in Atlanta or not. Does anyone else find that ridiculous ?
Tomas, Hudson was yelling at DOB. He was just so frustrated with the new format here and the whole “last 100 comments” issue.
David, welcome back. Other than Heyward ripping the ball, was there anything else of note in the ol’ ballyard?
DOB, not to worry. He just forgot to take his pills.
David, what about Glavin? Won’t the Braves keep him on the DL until it is time for him to pitch? I guess that does not affect the 40-man roster though. But it does mean that someone can begin the season with the Braves and be sent down if only for a few days.
February 20th, 20093:49 pm
I sure miss Mr Tim Woods (Mr Wrestling #1)
Might want to leave that motorcycle helmet on when you go into the clubhouse tomorrow.
Did Huddy by any chance apologize to you today?….or even speak to you for that matter?
Friday The 13th Remake Was Okay
February 20th, 20093:52 pm
Question John Quest and to others….Would you rather.
a. watch Batman and Robin for 24 straight hours OR…
b. go watch the braves play
John Quest #2, not to be confused w/ Mr. Wrestling #1
February 20th, 20093:53 pm
I don’t knock John Smoltz to hard. He was one of the major donors to a new private school in Henry County a few years ago, and I’m sure he’s still sending them checks.
February 20th, 20093:54 pm
i love john to death, but his “I didn’t leave the Braves, by the way. You leave when you’re given a choice.” comment was not only flat out misrepresentation of the truth, but a comment made in very poor taste. not to mention very childish for a guy who says he has no ill feelings towards his former employer.
PTBNL: Yes, Braves could put Glavine on the 15-day DL at the end of spring training, and bring him off for his first start.
February 20th, 20093:56 pm
Well, I finally watched the Dark Knight for the first time. Awesome movie.
I was at the 4th of July game back in the 70’s which went 17 innings. I live about 1 1/2 hours from the stadium, and we watched the last 2 innings on TBS when we got home. (the Rick Camp homerun called by John Sterling.)
February 20th, 20093:57 pm
Glavine has to be ON the roster before he can be DL’ed, LOL. He’s a free agent, remember?
As for Hudson and the 60-day, that’s a joke, I’m thinking. Isn’t it too early for DL assignments?
Would love to know your answer to Jeff at 3:49pm.
February 20th, 20093:58 pm
also john maybe be 100% accurate in what he is saying about the braves management, but if you want anyone to believe a word you are saying, it helps to not start with i blatent lie coming out of your mouth that makes you sound like a petulant child.
DOB, after all of the unfair abuse you’ve taken over the past day or two… you’ll have something to talk to Frank Wren about over coffee.
DOB… do you feel inadequate in bed? hey, you did say you welcomed these questions.
February 20th, 20093:59 pm
Sounds like Mr. Hudson might be moving on. (a pre-rumor)
Hey Dave, can you give us some more eyes on the ground report about how spring training is going, how everyone is looking, etc. Let’s move on from Glavine signing and Griffey not and talk about the real important stuff like how Schaeffer is looking in camp, how Heyward is doing. What are you seeing from Kawakami, etc.
Really appreciate your spring training reports.
Now I’m thinking of it, you’re right. You don’t DL somebody before the season’s started.
ncscoots, it wasn’t a joke. honest. i, too, thought that 60-day DL designations couldn’t be made until close to opening day. I don’t know if the rule changed or what, but they can be made as soon as a guy reports to camp. he’s going on the 60-day DL.
February 20th, 20094:00 pm
Dob, how was the day at the yard…did any of the young guys stand out to you?
February 20th, 20094:01 pm
ncscoots – Why is it too early? He’s going on one way or the other. So it’s either put him on there now or lose a player by putting him on waivers.
dude, i like in chicago, i’ve been online all day stuck in an online “waiting room” for braves vs cubs tickets at wrigley in july. it’s sick how much business they do. i’ve seriouly had the page open since 10 this morning, it automatically refreshes and i’ve not been able to buy a ticket yet. unreal.
Jeff, to answer to your 3:49 p.m. question: No.
February 20th, 20094:02 pm
DOB, is Hanson going to get starts or working out of the pen? How many different guys will start spring training games this spring?
In other news, O-Dog signed with the Dodgers.
Fine with me. Maybe we can finally put all the “move KJ to left” lunacy to bed.
(while remaining concerned about LF offensive production)
If they put Glavine on the 15 DL would he have to stay on there for 15 days since it is the beginning of season or could he come off at any time? The reason I ask is that he wouldn’t be eligible to come off until April 20 if that’s the case and Bobby says we’ll need him on the 19th for his first start. Just wondering if you could clarify.
February 20th, 20094:03 pm
DOB, thanks, bro. How ’bout that? About the time I think I have a handle on transactions, options, waivers, and the like, up pops a rule with which I’m unfamiliar. MLB rules and regs are as bad as the tax code, LOL.
DOB: Jeff, to answer to your 3:49 p.m. question: No.
I assume that’s no apology and no talk.
February 20th, 20094:04 pm
Last week, I saw reports (I believe Verducci) that had Garret Anderson and Griffey going to the Braves and Mariners, just not sure which. I believe it was on the Hot Stove on the MLB network. Anyway, now that Griffey has signed with the Mariners, do you know how interested, if at all are the Braves in Anderson?
Or do you see them trading for a Delmon Young or maybe Wily Mo Pena (if they are available)… or maybe other guys that make 2-3 million or less? I know Pena hasn’t done much in the big leagues due to injuries, but his power and production has usually been there. I doubt the Nationals would ask for much seeing how they have so many outfielders. Pena picked up his $2 million option after the Nationals declined their option on him.
Or do you really see them letting J. Anderson, Schafer, Blanco and/or B. Jones win the jobs?
C’s, I meant too early by rule, not too early by decision.
February 20th, 20094:05 pm
how’s Gonzo doing?
McPoyle: No such problems buying a Braves-Cubs ticket at Turner Field, I’m gonna guess.
This is the 2nd worst decision (letting Aaron go to the Brewers over a couple hundred thousand in the 80’S was the worst) that this club has made since being in Atlanta.
The 80s huh.
Big deal on Smoltz pointing out time and time and time again that he could’ve left for more money. Hey I could’ve left my job for more money too, but I enjoy what I do, where I work, and who I work for. I guess I should be commended just like Smoltz huh. Let me pat myself on the back and let you all know how loyal I am.
February 20th, 20094:06 pm
DCBrave: Correct and correct.
Sometimes when I have a sick leave, I find my mind’s messed up a bit afterwards. Maybe this long DL thing did get to Huddy.
Why is it so much harder to buy a ticket at Wrigley Field than it is at Turner Field ? I guess because Wrigley Field seats a lot less people ?
Joe Sheehan has a very good article on Baseball Prospectus about the Braves 2009 chances. He wishes they went after Abreu or Dunn, but overall he thinks they still have a very good chance of making the playoffs. He suggests playing Blanco in LF and Anderson in CF, therefore having the best defensive outfield in the NL. That, coupled with the much improved pitching staff and championship caliber infield makes for them to be a real contender:
“What makes these discussions relevant is the Braves’ infield, which is clearly championship-caliber thanks to Chipper Jones’ late-career surge, an underrated Kelly Johnson, and the best player no one knows about, Brian McCann. With Vazquez and Lowe added, the Braves have a core of players you can build a successful team around, with the main problem being that they go up against two of the best five-man cores in the game in the Mets and Phillies. That’s why they can’t afford to make mistakes in assembling their outfield.”
“In the absence of a power-hitting left fielder, the Braves would probably be well-served to try and make run prevention their main goal. Their top five—Johnson, Yunel Escobar, Chipper Jones, McCann, and Casey Kotchman—should be good enough to give them a league-average offense. Rather than put Brandon Jones in over his head as the big half of a platoon, what the Braves could do is play Josh Anderson in center field and Gregor Blanco in left, giving them the best defensive outfield in the NL. Anderson can’t hit, and Blanco can’t hit well enough to carry left field, but combined with Jeff Francoeur, the trio would cover broad swaths of ground, enough to make Javier Vazquez a very happy man.”
“There’s another reason that I think this might work. If you consider the teams that have surprised us recently, it’s all teams that did so by preventing runs with great defense. The 2005 White Sox, the 2006 Tigers, the 2008 Rays… these were all teams that had good pitching staffs backed by excellent glove work, and which rode a terrific performance on balls in play to the World Series. It seems like defense is more affordable than offense, and more likely to be the backbone of a surprise team. When was the last time a team surprised us by bashing its way to the postseason? The 1993 Phillies, perhaps? Maxing out the defense is the best use of the Braves’ current resources; their left fielder and center fielder aren’t going to hit no matter who plays, but they could combine to be outstanding defensively.”
“Whatever they do, this is going to be a good team and a real contender. The 2008 season was a blip caused by a terrible run of injuries and some awful fortune in close games. Unless both make a reappearance, the Braves will be playing meaningful games deep into September—and possibly October.”
February 20th, 20094:08 pm
DOB, You need to try the Brazilian Steak House while you’re down there.
Just a suggestion. Leave your wallet and let someone else get the tab.
February 20th, 20094:09 pm
Winterville, a certain number of days of a DL designation can be backdated into spring training. Somewhere between 5-10 days, but I’d have to look it up later. Point is, they can DL him and bring him off for his April 19 start.
dfg(etc): Gonzo’s healthy, that’s the important thing. He’s looked OK, what I’ve seen and heard. Nothing special. But again, he’s healthy. That’s all that matters this early for a guy like him.
February 20th, 20094:10 pm
DOB – hah probably not
nd who’s going to hit all the home runs, Little Dipper Jones? He’ll probably go down on the first road trip of the season. Go down on his teammates, that is GetNathan
you post a total crap POS like that and expect anybody on this board to give you any respect or credence? What are you, 12?
Efrim, Sheehan makes sense- but by his logic I’d rather have Anderson in left and Schafer in center.
February 20th, 20094:12 pm
What exactly did Hudson told you? How did you get in an argument with him(I mean how did it start)?
Did i miss something about DOB and a Brave player “getting into it”? – What happened? -
DOB – Its been rather chilly up here lately, so riding the motorcycle has not really been so fun. When you refer to having ridden your bike; do you mean bicycle or motorcycle? I hear the weather is rather perfect for riding down there……….i guess either way you look at it. Ah, Spring is near, and single layers are back.
Coxlover – it’s more than just a baseball game up at wrigley though, the waitlist for season tickets is over 100,000 and they had a 98% renewal rate. how they do it i have no idea… most of the games are in the day, so i don’t know how all these people miss work and go up there to get all boozed up haha, but i like their style.
February 20th, 20094:13 pm
But I would think even if they can put Huddy on the 60 day DL today, the 60 day countdown doesn’t start today but the opending day.
BA, yea, I’d be fine with that too. But I want Shafer in Triple A to start the season. Some more development time couldn’t hurt him. It’d be an offensive boost when Shafer does get promoted though. And I am pretty sure we won’t be losing anything on the defensive side.
DOB, You need to try the Brazilian Steak House while you’re down there. Just a suggestion. Leave your wallet and let someone else get the tab. – John Quest #2
Perhaps Bowman, since he threw me under the bus….
February 20th, 20094:14 pm
Thanks for the response DOB, that is definitely a plus and it is one less roster decision that doesn’t have to be made right out of spring training.
Sorry for all the heat you have taken. Still love ya here man.
Also, I need to reccomend the new M.Ward record to you. It is excellent. Also, Booker T. and DBTs at the Variety. You could use some downtime.
Efrim: lots of good points there. I never thought of trying the defensive approach. Anderson and Blanco are very quick in the outfield and can track a lot of balls. If one of them would get on base enough or steal some bases they could help the team score some runs. One would obviously hit 1st and the other 8th…but if they saved us some runs that could theoretically count towards them producing runs for us. Francoeur seemed like he saved us a run a game…and definitely saved us a lot of extra bases by guys pulling up at 1st or 2nd or 3rd and not trying to take an extra base/score.
Aaron in Chicago
McPoyle, in the waiting room click “File”, then “New”, then “Window” and you can have multiple waiting rooms open at once (assuming you are using Internet Explorer). I managed to get tickets to all three Braves games in this manner.
February 20th, 20094:15 pm
oh, do you have any sense what Cashman may want for Nady?
DCBrave: Correct, the 60 days doesn’t start now for Hudson. But they can put him on it, since they know he’s going to miss far more than the first two months of the season anyway.
Favorite Wrigley moment: Ferris Bueller and Cameron sitting at the Cubs game, “Swing-batta-batter, Swing!!”
February 20th, 20094:16 pm
Seriously DOB, did Bowman apologize to you, formally or sort of?
February 20th, 20094:17 pm
the obvious answer to why wrigley is so hard to get tickets to is that it only seats 41k in a city population of 2.8 million as opposed to say the ted which seats 50k with a city population 520k
the other reason is that the cubs own their own ticket brokering offices in which they hold back a majority of the good seats and sell them above face value for profit. that cuts into the supply of face value tickets and if you’ve taken any marketing classes that means the demand soars.
DOB’s last post jogged my memory…
Folks, as soon as single game tickets go on sale, be sure to BUY TICKETS TO GAMES VS. CUBS, RED SOX & THE LIKE!!!
We really need to pack the Ted more with Braves fans during those games. It’s always somewhat embarrassing to me when the Cubs fans are louder than Braves fans IN ATLANTA!!!
February 20th, 20094:18 pm
Aaron – thanks for the suggestion, somebody had told me about that and i tried it earlier. it won’t let me for whatever reason, probably something to do with blockage since i’m at work. very annoying. i’ll just have to end up on stubhub paying 80/per for an upper deck seat. lol
omas, Hudson was yelling at DOB. He was just so frustrated with the new format here and the whole “last 100 comments” issue—BA
I can’t blame him for that. Between the format screwups and the million new morons, this is not nearly as pleasant a place to visit as it usually is.
February 20th, 20094:19 pm
Quit taking marketing classes and the ticket prices should come down.
flange1 (3:22 pm): “FYI I read your story from the San Fran blog guy about Selig, Aaron and Tom House.
“I pray that that story is not real. Or at least doesn’t involve the King…..”
Come, sir, surely we all know that Jerry Lawler would never stoop so low!!!
But seriously . . .
Those are some serious allegations for us neither to have ever heard anything like that before, so I have some serious doubts about their validity.
A couple of things that might not be so hard to check would be the existence of a Vincent draft steroid policy, and crunching some other offensive Aaron numbers to see what if any spikes they show 70-73.
Needless to say, I’ve done neither yet.
Btw, someone commented that House had a personal axe to grind with Aaron anyway, so take his comments fwiw . . .
(’Course, I wouldn’t put nothin’ past Selig.)
February 20th, 20094:20 pm
KC, it is sickening how many fans from the opposing team I see at Turner Field. Especially Red Sox, Cubs and Yankees fans. Sometimes I feel like I’m outnumbered.
That Moore guy and Smoltz can moan about Wren and the front office until they’re blue in the face, but I’m pretty sure that after ‘08 and all of the one run losses, bad fundementals, and guys just sucking to no end, most thought that the ‘09 Braves would be a team in rebuilding with no hope for at least a couple of years. Damn, that was a long sentence. Wren has turned a team that had the fans in panick mode, to a team that we can get a little excited about. All I have to say is, FU– Furcal,Griffey,Peavy, and at this point, FU– Smoltz too! I’m sick of his crap. Is his point in bashing Wren and Shuerholtz to get the fans of the Braves to quit liking them? Burnett is a sissy, and Lowe seems to want to be the leader…who’d you rather have?
February 20th, 20094:21 pm
lexbrave at 4:17 “the ted which seats 50k with a city population 520k” – this is why I get so frustrated with people saying the Atlanta doesn’t ever sell out games, etc…….
February 20th, 20094:22 pm
“Bowman” sounds a lot like…”Newman.”
MFin04, yea, I like a good offense, but he is right about the suprise teams being better at run prevention and the Braves will definetly be better at that in 2009. They should have enough offense too, as long as Francoeur, Kelly Johnson, and Casey Kotchman can produce like they did in 2007. Considering they are all young, it isn’t crazy to think that they haven’t even broken through yet(although I am less confident about Frenchy), why not this year? At the very least, repeat 07 performances….I hope.
Am I really hearing grown men cry over new people posting? What kind of elementary school crap is that? “Hey, we were on this playground first!”
Perhaps I’m using the term “grown men” too loosely?
February 20th, 20094:23 pm
DOB a few futuristic headlines for you: Jason Heyward the Braves left fielder by August. No trades necessary here, just keep the spot warm. Hanson in the rotation no later than July as Glavine retires to join a senior baseball league. Chipper signs a 3 year contract extension, vowing to play in at least 50 games each season if his hamstrings and feet allow. Cox signs on for one more year vowing not to retire until Chipper does. Braves finish 4th and wait until next year.
February 20th, 20094:24 pm
McPoyle – That stinks, I am at work also but was able to bring up about 20 waiting rooms. I got in 7 times but only bought tickets for the Braves series. Passed off the others to my boss (Cubs fan) who has over 30 waiting rooms open but wasn’t having nearly as much luck getting in.
The Good Book
Wouldn’t John’s evangelical feelings have been accepted much more in the South?? John does not understand that it is easier for a camel to fit through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to get into the Gates of Heaven.
John, You must read the whole Book and not be selective–what a man does for the least of my brethren he does unto me. There are some eeally good sentiments expressed in There. The prevailing sentiment seems to be against greed.
John, do you have enough? Will you ever have enough?
ammerjammer: “Bowman” sounds a lot like…”Newman.”
You mean looks a lot like?
February 20th, 20094:25 pm
[Sheehan] suggests playing Blanco in LF and Anderson in CF, therefore having the best defensive outfield in the NL. That, coupled with the much improved pitching staff and championship caliber infield makes for them to be a real contender
And I respect Sheehan, but here I think he’s a little off the mark. Schafer is a superior defensive OF to either Anderson or Blanco, and Brandon Jones is an excellent corner, defensively. As to Jones being over his head, it’s at least as likely that Anderson and Blanco will continue to struggle offensively, Blanco’s winter campaign notwithstanding.
Therefore, I don’t see a significant plus-minus in an Anderson/Blanco pairing. To me, it’s more likely that Jones would provide enough offense to more than offset any defensive gap. I understand Sheehan’s premise, but disagree with his personnel.
Dave…. you suck. I can’t believe you cost us Griffey. Time for you to stop covering my favorite team.
scoots, it was my understanding that Glavin had signed already. Did I jump the gun?
February 20th, 20094:26 pm
seaatl, and anyone who has ever tried to make it on a weeknight in rush hour to the ted to make a 7:00 pm game knows exactly why people would rather sit at home and watch it on tv.
You’re right C’s, the registration fee to post on here was quite a bit more than I’m use to paying. At least i can write it off on my taxes because I once took a psyc class in one of the Journalism rooms in college.
February 20th, 20094:27 pm
Wow, finally some semblance of normalcy. Had to somewhat tune out the last few days as the bloggers were resembling the football blogs that I try to avoid for such reasons.
Does anyone have any thoughts on Carlyle or Campillo? Is is logical to assume there is only room for one of them on the staff?
whoa, turn your head from the blog for a few hours and you have no idea what’s going on…how did Bowman throw DOB under the bus???
February 20th, 20094:28 pm
I guess I should have said the OTHER King!!!
I did enjoy Lawler in Memphis!
I have heard the same about Tom House and Aaron. I have seen some of the numbers on Aaron, I think most of those have to do with expansion, a different ball and a lineup that had lots of hitters in it…
At least I hope so…
Yeah C’s, it’s like the playground in Elementary- when they brought out your special ed class to play.
February 20th, 20094:29 pm
DOB, Although this haven’t been you’re best week, I just want to tell you this is the greatest blog in all of baseball. I really appreciate you’re work, and how you keep us up to date with everything going on.
My suggestion to you is to not hold anger with anybody, and just be calm. This is like at storm, you just need to be patient and it will pass.
February 20th, 20094:30 pm
Smoltz is doing more harm than good with Braves fans with him constantly running his fat trap. I think he oughta just shutup with coments like he “would have definitely left after ‘96 had it not been for Cox”. Well, aren’t you special. I wanted him to have an awesome season with Boston a couple of weeks ago, but now, I’d be even happier if he throws his last pitch his first game back. To me, the comments he just made are a huge insult to Chipper, Glavine, Maddux, and all of the Braves fans.
haha, Aaron it’s been awful. i got in one time and thought i was squared away, then it kept giving me a message that said “we’re unable to process your request due to high purchase volumes, please try again” i kept trying, that kept coming up so i tried to pick a different day and it put me back in that waiting room!
Kent’you suck somewhere else?
February 20th, 20094:32 pm
Seriously though, the Braves aren’t going to spend all that money on pitching acqusitions and then torpedo the season by not acquiring an outfield bat are they?
February 20th, 20094:34 pm
ncscoots, I think he is going off the assumption that Schafer may be starting the year in the minors(?). Honestly not sure though as he did not refer to him in his piece. I agree with you that Schafer in CF and Brandon Jones in LF is the best solution, but as I said to BA, I’d like Schafer in Triple A for the first couple months of the season, if not more. I’m sure he could be at least average at the position offensively, and above average defensively, but I’d rather be safer with the kid. His time will come.
BA – making fun of the mentally challenged? Really? I won’t even bother.
Anyway, back to baseball…..
Luther – Just me guessing here, but I’d say you are right. I doubt there is room for both.
February 20th, 20094:35 pm
PTBNL, as I’ve been wrong about the ST DL rules already, I think I’ll forgo any more opinions in that area, LOL. Glavine has signed, I’m sure, but I don’t think he’s actually on the 40-man yet, is he? I think that might have been my reference. Naturally, I could have just misread whatever inspired that post, to start with!
Amen to that, KC. It’s an embarrassment. Even some Met games SOUND like we’re outnumbered. And even when we have a clear numerical advantage, the fans rarely get loud and they’re not organized at all. Even the Wave flops after 4 or 5 weak laps (thank God). Maybe we need cheap megaphones…something…
DOB, it looks like this blog heading “so now what” has gotten us through the Jr magic show. I say we do like John Candy in “Uncle Buck” and let’s “Bury the Hatchet, (bug)”.
February 20th, 20094:36 pm
Perhaps it has to do with the stupidity evidenced by so many of the new posters. Most have done nothing but rip DOB and Wren and ask childish questions of the players who have been on the board. There is a constant influx of posters and anybody and everybody has always been welcome, but most of the posts from the new group have been childish trash that do nothing but clog the board.. Haven’t noticed yet which way the wind blows with you. If you post interesting, relevant comments I’ll be thrilled to have someone new to communicate with. Hope so cause I really don’t need to put any more stress on my scroll-wheel.
Hey, this Far Side comic kinda goes along with DOB’s alligator story:
(If clicking on it doesn’t work, try copying the name and pasting it in your address bar–that should do the trick.)
February 20th, 20094:38 pm
Dave…. you suck. I can’t believe you cost us Griffey. Time for you to stop covering my favorite team.—Kent
a perfect example
February 20th, 20094:39 pm
McPoyle – Yeah, I got that same message on several of mine but eventually got past it by continually clicking “continue” each time it brought the error up. I have a feeling that at least half of Chicago was trying to buy tickets. I bet we contributed to the economic problems because of the hundreds of thousands of “work” hours lost as people tried to buy tickets here in Chicago. lol
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