12:32 am February 20, 2009, by David O'Brien
February 20th, 200912:19 pm
Ian Curtis – trust me Griffey had agreed and was the one pursuing the Braves not the other way around..
DOB’s source was Terence Moore, my contact was as close to the deal as you can get without being either Frank Wren or Junior/JR Agent…
it was a done and dusted thing until the agent started playing on getting his extra commission
All you fans worrying about DOB and Hudson ….DOB is man enough to admit when he’s wrong. Can’t say that about Hudson, but I hope everyone will forget and forgive and get on with life. Can’t believe Braves were ever intersted in Jr to start with. Thanks DOB for keeping the fans informed. You have 40 different players to keep happy and millions of fans, you have one hell of a job to do and for me you do it well. God Bless!
February 20th, 200912:20 pm
Hudson got mad over (a) the idea that media reports resulted in losing out on a player to help his team win; and (b) feeling that some of his teammates were being disrespected by reports that their careers with the Braves were in jeopardy.
To me, while it’s clear that he was misguided in both of those opinions, I give him credit for being passionate about his team and his teammates. Hopefully this blows over, because he’s one guy who I could see giving the Braves the benefit of the doubt when it comes time to negotiate a new contract.
Lew- Just because I don’t agree with everything DOB says doesn’t mean I don’t appreciate what he does here. I’ve repeatedly said one of the reasons I come here is because I’ve not found any other blog where a guy within the game is as attentive as DOB. Most seem to just go through the motions.
Just because you have this overwhelming hatred of all things Mets please don’t assume I feel the same way about the Braves. I come from a two team town so I’m used to the push and pull of these types of discussions. It may be foreign to you guys but it’s a way of life in NY. I just prefer to do this with Braves fans rather than Yankke fans – nothing more. To do so I have to come to this blog.
100 most recent comments…interesting. Now I know what people are fussin’ about.
To those moving onto Garret Anderson: I just don’t see the Braves signing him, at least not for awhile.
Griffey and Anderson weren’t interchangeable signings.
The Braves have a guy that simply MASHES lefties in Matt Diaz. What they were/are looking for is someone that can do the same against righties. Griffey still does that while Anderson doesn’t.
Let’s look at the OPS of Griffey and G.Anderson the last 5 years VS. RIGHTHANDERS:
Griff: .841, .943, .869, .975 and .968.
Anderson: .774, .834, .796, .719 and .877.
(most recent are first)
Anderson has been solid while Griffey has put up MONSTER splits the way we need to use them. (vs.righties only)
So…losing Griffey is a bit bigger than many on here want to admit.
February 20th, 200912:21 pm
ET and the Bear…
I think you guys hit the situation right on the head. I’ll go so far as to say that Griffey’s “friend” was told to talk to DOB in order improve his offer. The fact that Griffey is more interested in a nostalgia tour and a front-office job tells me that we are better off without him.
Still holding out hope for a trade for Nady…
DOB- keep your head up, you are doing a great job. Listen to the new M.Ward album it is relaxing and cool. And don’t forget a little Violent Femmes- Kiss of into the air..for all those message board bashers.
February 20th, 200912:22 pm
rammerjammer – I think that with his new stance and by dropping his hands he will be able to avoid over swinging (which is what I think was his biggest fault last season) and be able to drive the ball. He proved a couple of years ago that he can hit for power and might end up being your typical clean-up.
Anders – I appreciate you but I do not like you. You are a Mets fan and as a Braves fan that makes me throw up a little (like smelling a coffee fart)…That’s me being me…Newwwman!
February 20th, 200912:26 pm
ian curtisa “friend” is not a source
its actually all you need if you are going to write that a friend said griffey wants play for the braves. if thats what the friend said, your good. the AJC made a poor choice with the headline that insinuated griffey had chosen, but the story was accurate. people in atlanta were so excited about it (understandably) that when they got let down, they started looking for someone to blame. theres no one to blame, really. but, if people have to blame someone, they should blame themselves for getting worked up tot he point they thought a deal had been stuck. a signing was never reported, not one time.
The Real Fan
DOB will never admit he was wrong. He does not have the “it”. Hudson is a member of the team and has every reason to wonder who will be on the team. It’s called chemistry!
Don’t speculate, report what you know! It’s called journalism…
February 20th, 200912:27 pm
And you all can bet that this isn’t the first time a player or coach has busted DOB’s chops. That just goes with the job…unless you’re a blatant cheerleader. Thankfully, that ain’t O’Brien.
THE BEAR Illegitimi non carborundum
February 20th, 2009
Ian, you obviously don’t know your arse from third base when it comes to journalism. David posted a rumor, he said it was a rumor and he posted it for this blog. Griffey screwed the Braves and everybody else. And you want to crucify our blogmaster. Hell, if you want to attack the culprit, then attack Griffey.
Do you want an exciting blog where we can discuss the possibilities of what is going on with out team or do you want to just wait for the morning paper to come out and read the “transactions” section of the sports page?
Ian, you also have joined the team of idiots on this blog. I’ve had it with you freaks. Find another life, you are in bad need of one.
Me, too…and actually it’s McCann’s birthday…mine’s not for another month and a half…ish…
Free, eh? That sounds appealing. Do you halfa give out any kind of info other than e-mail address?
February 20th, 200912:29 pm
I’m not too keen on the 100 post format, either. My Happy Birthday message is gone now.
February 20th, 200912:30 pm
i think its a mistake not to get someone to boost the outfield offense. the braves could be fine, but i think they should over prepare, here. get a bat. a platoon guy, a full time guy, whatever, doesnt matter. one small improvement in the outfield is all we need, in my opinion.
February 20th, 200912:33 pm
mcfann no, you dont. the email addy is really so the commish (me) can send you the info you need in order to get into the league, and then yahoo sends you updates about your team. you can actually hide your email addy from the rest of the league.
use your mom or dads email if you want to. like i said, i just have to send you the league ID#
I think the real indicator of whether there is any lasting damage from the “exchange of words” will be if DOB can still coax players into participating on this blog again. Hope so. But I won’t hold my breath waiting for an appearance by Hudson.
February 20th, 200912:35 pm
Good ol’ SSISCRIBE always manages to PIMP one of his “half-as$” blogs here at AJC!
February 20th, 200912:36 pm
Looking for more participants in an NL only fantasy baseball league with traditional roto scoring.
Have 4 so far and looking for 6 more to fill out the league. (DOB bloggers only is what we’re trying for)
Email me at firstname.lastname@example.org if interested.
February 20th, 200912:37 pm
Real Fan? DOB has nothing to admit, he did nothing wrong.
February 20th, 200912:38 pm
HAPPY 25th BIRTHDAY McCANN!
DOB, so YOU were the AJC reporter Tim Hudson had to be held back from physically going after ? Wow ! Our local newspaper reported that “Tim Hudson was angry because he felt like an AJC reporter that falsely reported that Griffey had already signed was THE REASON that Griffey rejected the Braves so he went after that reporter and had to be held back.”
I don’t like trying the “ROOKIES” option to solving LF and RF.
Why don’t the Braves (Wren) just admit that after they sign Glavine there won’t be any money left to sign a FA OF ?
Afraud : Well,well,well,… Mr. Arod could not have purchased his steroid over the counter in the Dominican Republic as he claimed
in his news conference. So that’s a blatant lie. Now it’s being reported that he is linked to some DR trainer in 2007 that was banned from MLB players in 2001. A reporter on ESPN said that this Angel guy was with Arod for ALL of the 2007 season. Angel was linked to giving Juan Gonzalez (remember I told you how HUGE he was in person ?) steroids among others. Now MLB is saying that if its proven that Arod was linked to Angel after 2001 (and it has been proven) that he might be suspended in the 2009 season (duration unknown). I wonder if “The Amoeba” Bud Selig can summons the testosterone and guts to actually stand up to the MLB Player’s Union (Don “No Fair Hair” Fehr) and suspend PAYROD ? I’m thinking noithing will be done though. MLB only wants to get players for purgery NOT using STEROIDS. At least 100 players were PROVEN to use steroids from 2001 to 2007 and NONE have been arrested,fined,or suspended by MLB. It seems like if you a millionaire pro athlete that the laws of this America (U.S.) don’t apply to you…
February 20th, 200912:39 pm
Hate the confrontation with Tim H, but nice to see he is sensitive to teammates. Keep doing what you do, 99% pf us appreciate you and your efforts
February 20th, 200912:40 pm
Hey, the turtle is back!
Look at this latest refuge of DOB haters -
Here’s a guy, proeye, who compares his job as a doctor to that of a sports reporter that writes a freaking sports blog (!!!), expects him to have no opinion on the cases of Smoltz, Furcal, Peavy and Griffey and praises that crappy blog of 3 paras that basically only resolves in name calling. I am so glad I don’t live in ATL, this idiot could have been my doctor.
I meant LF and CF.
Well, i guess it is cool to be the first one to publish a rumor, a signing but man you should be more careful.. They used you to lure Seattle or see their reaction.. and that will continue to happen if you still do that.. And hey, it’s not the first time that happens because i remember several times that you say that something is 100% certain even if you got it from a really bad source. I know it is a blog, and you have opinions, but at least say that “i got from a source that Griffey chose Braves, we’ll hear oficially about this soon” but you said “Griffey chose Braves. It will be announced on wednesday morning and the deal is blah blah” .. But hey, you actually do a great job and i always read your blogs and this is the first time that i comment just to say this because i don’t care if you do mistakes, because it’s normal to do a mistake once on a while, but this has happened before and we all get really excited because if you say it, then we believe it is truth but then we get that really huge dissapointment because you blew it. Sorry, i just had to say it and whine a little
Now, let’s continue here.. Garret Anderson it’s not a bad idea.. He is a good OF and can produce, and bats for contact.. I prefer him than a internal option. Anyway, Wren said that he is not excited at all about Anderson but i wish he changed his mind..
February 20th, 200912:41 pm
Tommy p, I just sent you an email.
I messed up so let’s move on and talk about running up stairs.
I shot you an email…I would like to join.
The Real Fan, You’re ”and” idiot.
Anders, I think you are a terrific blogger. I detest your team but I like you. You are a straight up guy and I can enjoy reading your posts and even disagreeing with you.
I traveled into N.Y. every six weeks for many years, made my first meaningful speech in the Empire Room at the Waldorf and loved to eat at Ruben’s and The Palm as well as other joints in Manhattan. Met Mickey Mantle one nite at the same hotel where we were both staying, the St. Moritz and we tied one on. Had a ball. He was on the DL and on crutches. We got acquainted when I helped him through the hotel’s revolving door.
Enjoy your time on this board. BTW, I live 8 miles south of the Mets’s Pt. St. Lucie training camp.
February 20th, 200912:42 pm
DOB – You were going to post Tom Glavine’s responses this morning following your conference call. If you did they have slipped off of the blog because of the 100 posts rule at the moment, so could you repost them for us? I was following the build up but have been out all morning so not able to catch them when they went up.
February 20th, 200912:43 pm
The Braves starting rotation will be distinctive, this year. There can’t can’t be too many rotations out there with a J.J. (Jair Jurrjens) and a K. K. (Kenshin Kawakami) who just might be able to combine for 25-30 wins from just the two of them.
Hey DOB when the “geeks” delete the comments can you have them keep your comments on here for longer? So at the top of the page would be all of your comments and then at the bottom would be the most recent 100 comments or so.
February 20th, 200912:45 pm
THE BEAR Illegitimi non carborundum:
You rest my case. You’d blow DOB no matter what was growing down there, eh? It was not just a blog where he posted his opinion, which it wasn’t even an opinion since he’s been stating it as a fact because of this “friend”. So get your facts straight, as there was an actual article that was posted on AJC. Articles are meant for fact reporting and opinions have no place there.
Again, keep up the good work with your ass kissing…maybe David O’ Brien can mention you in his next blog about what a great pup you are.
February 20th, 200912:47 pm
DAP, sorry got it and am signed up! Thanks.
February 20th, 200912:49 pm
This hype over Griffey is all sour grapes on the part of the Braves. The silly thing is to think KGj was actually going to be a meaningful contributor. Chipper would have played twice the number of games – and how many do we honestly expect of him?
That aside, don’t report the news until it becomes the news.
Someone please let Glavine know that I noticed the paltry contract he signed to play for Braves this year. He is now back in my Top 50 favorite Braves pitchers of all-time, just ahead of Bruce Sutter.
February 20th, 200912:51 pm
Ian, you are not only stupid, you are a vulgar idiot and you post lies. Screw you.
Bear- What types of speeches do you give?
February 20th, 200912:52 pm
DAP, I see a lot of promise in Morton also.
I really don’t think your projection will be true, though. Not because it is in bad logic nor taste, but because we as recent Braves fans should know that we can’t even predict what the starting rotation will be for this year. How many times did the starting rotation change last year? Yes, we seem to have more durable pitchers than last year, but who would have thought that 4 of 5 starters would have gone down? Besides that, the fact that we have Morton and other promising young pitchers, most likely some of the one’s you have listed will be traded somewhere along the way. Why would we wait 2 more years for Morton to break the rotation if he is ready before then? He may even be ready this year. It is a good problem, but it seems that we have an over abundance of starting pitchers that could be very effective. I don’t put a lot of stock yet in Jo Jo, but otherwise, there are some very promising pitchers in the wings right now. Hard to say what the team will look like after a year of trial and error this year.
Having said that, I think the point of your post is that we presently project well into the next few years with regard to starting pitching. And I certainly agree with that.
Lowe and Jair are solid. Vasquez and KK are wild cards. If Vasquez pitches like he did in Chicago he will be a bust. Some of the Japanese pitchers dominate (Nomo,Matsuazaka,Kuroda) and some get bombed (Ishii,Ohka,etc.). KK was a barely above average pitcher in Japan not a Daisuke Matsuzaka. I like Campillo and Morton. They kept the Braves “in games”.
February 20th, 200912:53 pm
lets sign orlando hudson and move KJ to the OF! Hudson’s value is way down now with the market, i wish i heard more people saying his name!!
ian curtis you seem pretty dense. the article reported a fact. thats right, a 100% fact. it said that a friend had told AJC that griffey had decided on the braves. the headline was misleading, and people like you took it to mean something else, but thats what it said.
February 20th, 200912:55 pm
Wow The Bear and Ian….
C’mon guys this a Braves Blog… Not a trash talking blog. It is this lack of decorum that garnered too much attention from the Braves players and the National Media..
Bear, I agree with your assessment but c’mon man watch the language
February 20th, 200912:56 pm
Second to Daniels
February 20th, 200912:57 pm
PTBNL youre right. i know what a fruitless exercise it is to project several years from now, but it was fun, so what the heck. either way, it SEEMS like we are in a good position as far as starters for the next several years. you never know, though…
Based on his name and the state of our economy, maybe speeches to the stock market ?
We Are Insane
How about some reality. Citi down to $2.oo. Bank of America to $3.43, Dow Chemical under.7.50, Major life insurance companies tumbling, unemployment to soon be 15%, the Underemployed(You know those people who were making 80,000 last year and now make 40,000 and can’t pay their bills), millions in annuities threatened, “formerly” safe bond holdings under duress, and on and on and on. And yet you blanking idiots here worrying about some punk A$$ MLB team. Little more reality, by June you won’t be worrying about the Braves’leftfielder. Trust me! And by May, there will be $1.00 Family Nights in Detroit, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Kansas City, Arlington, Houston, Cincinnati. Family Night in Atlanta will probably be around 4.00. And you punks are wondering why the Braves don’t open that wallet more. Hopefully the people who own the Braves have a little more responsibility than some ham and eggers(Of course we may all be ham and eggers)who live vicariously through some multi millionaires who would blow them and their little kids off in a parking lot. No, I’ve never asked a Major League ball player for an autograph so I’m not angry at them. But I am disgusted with the “Let’s go get Nady” lightweights of the World.
February 20th, 200912:58 pm
Just wanted to get people’s opinions on what they would give up to get Nady?
February 20th, 200912:59 pm
What are you complaining about, aren’t you dead????
JOE Kelly Johnson is far too good a player to platoon with Matt Diaz, and is an adequate second baseman. On the other side, Matt Diaz is far too good of a player to ride the bench all year.
February 20th, 20091:00 pm
If anyone believes the Griffey’s decision had anything to do with the AJC headline, I have some ocean front property in Montana that I’ll sell you for real cheap.
BTW, a Seattle newspaper (ya know, the city in which Junior will now be playing in) reported the exact same thing as this newspaper. Yet that didn’t turn him off from signing there.
Again, the AJC and DOB had N-O-T-H-I-N-G to do with Griffey’s decision.
Rodrigo from BRAZIL
Everyone is saying the first glavine´s start would be on april 19th. Looking braves schedule we can see easily that Braves are playing five days in a row starting april 14th, so the glavine firts start would be april 18th. Please correct your information. Sorry about my poor english.
Hey insane – why are you even reading this blog when there are obviously much bigger issues for you to deal with and solve?
I think the Braves did Francoeur a favor giving him 3.35 million this year avoiding arbitration. Based on his .247 11 70 numbers he woulda shore lost.
February 20th, 20091:01 pm
Try running a newspaper where “sources” aren’t used as a primary information point for a story. Are you old enough to remember Watergate? That downfall began with a single, unnamed source.
Has anyone disputed the accuracy of the source(s) in the Griffey coverage? If so, share that. What O’Brien reported was an ongoing situation, and accurate AT THAT TIME. It continued to evolve and change as Seattle upped the ante.
You’re upset about it only because O’Brien shared more about the process than you would’ve known otherwise. That Griffey used the Braves to get a lifetime deal from Seattle is just the way it goes.
And by the way, clean up your language. You’re an embarrassment.
I agree with DAP, never reported a signing of Griffey, not one tim the whole day, DOB gave his opinion, never said it was a fact. Get over it and stop hating DOB
Jim In Jax
February 20th, 20091:02 pm
That guy was right.
I feel like an idiot reading this Blog. Gonna go see if I have anything in that now 200.5(k) plan.
DAVID O’BRIEN please read what i have to say
This isnt the first time you messed up. Remember Jake Peavy?
Remember how you said it was a sure shot that Braves will get Peavy?
You claimed ” Peavys” friend told you that Peavy is being dealt to Atlanta. Now you say ” Griffeys” friend said that he has chosen the Braves.
I have lost all respect and crediablity for you.
You didnt learn your lesson from the Peavy incident?
Tim Hudson is totally correct in blaming you. I also blame you.
You are the sole reason why Griffey isnt in Atlanta. Griffey is a legend. Many of us Braves fans wanted to see him in our uniform but its because of you and your irreponsible journalism that he isnt with the Braves.
Griffey to the Braves would have meant more fans in the stadium and thus higher revenue. Not only that Griffey was a huge upgrade in LF.
If we dont end up getting a decent LF and Matt Diaz stinks and Braves lose the playoff spot by 3-4 games then you ARE TO BE BLAMED.
because Griffey would have made up for that 3-4 games.
David O Brien you are lucky to have a job. Consider it a pity by AJC
We are Insane…
Baseball and Sports in general allow us to NOT dwell on all the negatives in the economy. It is called distraction and entertainment. Being a fan is about having a community and conversation.
BTW …let’s go get Nady
Hey C’s, so you are saying that Tim Hudson did not try to attack an AJC reporter because of Griffey’s reported signing. Sure, I’ll believe what you say over Tim Hudson. Not.
C’s, I’m guessing you know Griffey personally since you seem to know everything.
February 20th, 20091:03 pm
ANDY, i totally agree with you, having said that, i’d give KJ a chance at playing everyday center while having either shafer or anderson platooning with diaz
February 20th, 20091:04 pm
DOB — Did you see the Peter Gammons thing on ESPN where he said a story is coming out this weekend from Atlanta and Tampa about steriods…do you know anything about this?
February 20th, 20091:05 pm
Veer BravesYour mommy is calling! She says to get out of that dark cold basement, take off your Braves jammies, and come get some nice, warm cookies and milk. Seriously dude, give it a rest. DOB has already addressed the situation, and he prolly could care less about that mini rant you just went on.
we are insane not arguing with the premise of your post, but we are a LONG way from 15% unemployment. the last time unemployment was higher was in 1983, by the way, not during the great depression like some people are being led to believe. we arent even in the same universe as the great depression.
Brian,Unless you are living in your stepdad’s basement, you have the same issues i do. However, you are not smart enough to realize it. “Let’s go get Swisher”, Right?
February 20th, 20091:06 pm
Please read this.
Your and idiot.
You believe Griff went to Seattle because of a stinkin’ news story? That’s the “sole” reason? It has nothing to do with breaking through with the M’s and playing his best ball there for 11 years? It has nothing to do with the DH in the American League? How about Seattle’s promise of a role in the front office once he retires? No? Okay, you’re right – it was the article that stated a source close to Griffey said he would sign with the Braves. That makes a lot of sense.
February 20th, 20091:07 pm
We are Insane – If you think that following baseball and idolizing the players in this recession/depression is “INSANE”… go back to 1930 when the hero to all in my homeland was a single racehorse called “Phar Lap”…
“When I find myself in times of trouble….”
February 20th, 20091:08 pm
Man I am glad I don’t have the same issues as you do. First off I am sane.
Secondly, no way should we go get Swisher
February 20th, 2009
Just wanted to get people’s opinions on what they would give up to get Nady?
They would have to give up one of there current young OF, maybe Anderson/Hernandez and some young SP, perhaps Morton. Yanks may want Prado as well. May be too much for the Braves, but I do like the idea of having Nady this year.
Daniel….. at this moment…. Nothing (or No One).
DAP — I thought so, but wanted to make sure. We have seen the last couple of days what unfulfilled expectations can bring out in a person! Whew!
Insane, not everybody is broke and unemployed. The Yankees have ALL their home game tickets sold out before the 1st game is played.
This is a correction in the economy because banks gave home loans to those that couldn’t pay them. Plus all the waste in giving CEO’s of failed companies like GM,Chrysler,Ford,Fannie Mae,etc. million dollar bonuses. I could go on and on but it would be better for everyone to take an economics course at their local college that doesn’t “get it”.
February 20th, 20091:09 pm
I can honestly see Nady a Brave come opening day. The Yankees will more than likely trade one of Nady/Swisher by the time ST is about up, and I can see Chipper campaign for the front office to get a right handed bat. Swisher will cost more prospects, while Nady would cost something like Prado/Blanco/Reyes, or even better to keep Prado and if Schafer really impresses, a Hernandez/Reyes type deal. The dollar situation might be a problem, but just maybe the Yanks want bad enough to trade one of their OF’s to buy out some of Nady’s contract. A prospect like Hernandez and Reyes who is still young enough to have upside should be enough.
Anyone who thinks G.Anderson is just another Diaz, except older and declining, is probably right. A waste of space and opportunity to get a Nady if you ask me. Best bet is for Atl. to be patient and wait for him to become available.
Can someone fill me in on this Tim Hudson blaming the AJC for the Griffey incident? I didn’t hear this.
February 20th, 20091:10 pm
So why wasn’t he turned off by the Seattle newspaper reporting the exact same thing?
You really believe a professional ball player will hinge his career decision on something so fickle? You don’t think it has anything to do with Mays talking with him? Or the fact that the M’s are giving him employment beyond his playing days? Or that he can DH part time to keep the strain off of his newly repaired knee?
BTW, you can sent your bids for the Montana property to: email@example.com
I would not be upset by giving up Anderson and Morton. Wouldn’t want to give up Hernandez. You could exchange either Morton or Anderson with Prado and that would be fine with me. Plus, a draft pick
DAP – The real unemployment rate here is MUCH higher than stated…. the ol’ USA government successfully does not count on those millions who have given up looking for employment and/or who have run out of benefits… whether it is a R word or D word, it is all bad and getting worse… but if we stick together and fight it out, who knows, USA may go back to equal pay for decent work and stop letting spivs like FULD, Ken Lewis and John Thain steal your tax dollars to pay another bunch of losers spivs………….
February 20th, 20091:11 pm
Took the day off and I read this. I’m with a major insurer. That fellow made me go check out what is happening. Now I hope I’ll have $4.00 for that family night.
By the way, the “real” unemployment is way higher than given number. Over 200 thousand retail stores will be shuttered in the coming year. Just said that GM is almost gone. that may add a few figures to unemployment.
February 20th, 20091:13 pm
I like your opinion…
Definitely do not want Anderson, but I would be hesitant to trade Hernandez
Insane- I expressed a very similar sentiment yesterday to what you wrote. Discretionary income has become a much larger component of our economy than it was only 30 years ago. The first thing people pull back on (even those with jobs and still paying their non-discretionary bills) is discretionary spending. Sports falls squarely in this area. These owners are very smart people. They see what’s coming and are preparing for it.
I know some are saying people look to sports to take their minds off their troubles. How does spending $200 at a game take your mind off of not being able to pay your bills? The big teams will certainly survive. Many of the teams you mentioned will have a real struggle on their hands. Crowds could get Marlinesque at more than a few parks.
February 20th, 20091:14 pm
why is that PTNBL?
February 20th, 20091:15 pm
Ok enough BLAME GAME, Who will thank AJC/DOB when Griffey hits .222 and 1 HR for 20 games before he is hurt for rest of the season.
daniel i would love to have nady, but wouldnt give up all that much for him. id give two players. 1st, id give one of prado, blanco, anderson, bjones. and then id give up a pitcher, maybe a bullpen arm, maybe a low level starter, maybe jojo.
the yankees probably wont take something like that, since they arent really worried about shedding parole.
but nady would certainly make this team ALOT better.
Veer Brave you should really think before you type out idiotic comments.
February 20th, 20091:16 pm
I don’t anything abot Griffey’s personality C’s but I guess you do ? No, I don’t think it was the sole reason he chose Seattle. I’m sure going back to his original team,more playing time, and getting a higher $$$ offer were the main reasons. I never blamed AJC until I read that TIM HUDSON blamed AJC. That’s real.
robdawg08, Go turn on MSNBC, CNBC, CNN Fox, heck even the Disney Channel. This ain’t no normal correction. I’m 63 with a finance degree and I’ll tell you this ain’t no normal correction. Look at the faces of the people in the know, they are way beyond being worried. i recognize this Blog as a distraction, but I do realize in the scheme of things, it is ultimately a silly distraction.
February 20th, 20091:17 pm
WAI was not talking about spending $200 at the park. He was commenting that being concerned about who plays in the outfield for the Braves is a waste of time during this economic downturn. Two totally different statements
Let the Griffey thing go people! I haven’t read every post the last day or two, but I’m sure some of you have read that his daughter was the main reason he decided to go back to Sea. It’s just drama that the AJC/DOB had anything to do with his decision.
Lets stop harping over a 39 yr old platoon OF, and focus on other OF options and Hanson. The Braves are too good for Jr. anyways. Let him warm the bench on a ghost team, and watch our Braves kick some a– this year!
February 20th, 20091:18 pm
Could you guys imagine this blog with no one asking for DOB what he thinks..They ask he answers.and then people consier it reported…
time to play ball!
Mr. B- Timmy Hudson bitch smacked DOB in the locker room. …j/k
February 20th, 20091:19 pm
DAP if your assumption is true…
We should definitely make that trade
News update I just received some privy news about Nick Markakis.
There has been some internal discussions of the front offices of the O’s and Braves about the possibility of moving Nick for a package of young prospects. The O’s aren’t sure about pursuing the possibilities of moving Nick but are more inclined to do so while his stock is high. There are some in the front office that feel it’s best to do it now then wait and have his value drop. Braves are prepare to head back to the table. I’d keep an eye on this one.
Anders – good points. I know of many of your brethren Mets fans here in NYC that had season tickets for >> 10 years. One guy in my g/f’s business used to pay $28k for I think 2 tickets in a very nice part of Shea (including parking)… now that the Wilpons have SheetyField his same seats are quoted at $56k (without parking)…. he has said no thanks…
so the math on that would be what $700+ per game, for a bloody baseball game…
The Yankee II stadium is even worse and relies on many corporates who are pulling out left, right and center..
so head to the real world (ie outside of NY).. some lifelong fan with 2 boys and a lower income cannot afford to be paying $100-$150 per game… he just wont go…
I think they definitely need to sign a vetran outfielder just so they have someone who can mentor the young guys until they are ready to play full time in Atlanta. Either Edmonds or G. Anderson. They will come cheap and not require a long term deal.
February 20th, 20091:20 pm
Someone mentioned earlier baseball during the Depression. I would suggest you look very closely at the attendance data and pictures of stadiums from that period. Those weren’t crowds, those were gatherings.
Hey car3boogie, Griffey will most likely hit .280 25 80 in Seattle this year if he stays healthy and plays in 150+ games. I don’t think a lot of know how good Griffey can be when healthy.
February 20th, 20091:21 pm
Because you are talking about giving away a possible #2 or #3 starter for a one year rental. In terms of games won, I don’t think Nady is going to give that much value. In other words, I would wait and see what we actually have before I assign value to any of the guys that people so quickly want to give away. There is no rush. Besides, if we wait, more money may be freed up so that we could get someone that meets what we know our needs to be rather than projecting the needs without knowing what Schafer or Anderson or Morton or Jones or whomever can do. Have you not noticed that every year there are surprise players? We really don’t know what we have now. It is not worth it to get a one year rental of Nady’s stature based on unknown values that we have in hand.
lol Well if Huddy says it’s true, it must be. C’mon now. He’s no more informed than you or I. Chipper was on record as saying the same thing as DOB. Why isn’t Huddy mad at him?
Huddy was frustrated just like the rest of us. But he took it out on the wrong guy. If he wanted to blame someone, blame the person who actually wrote the false headline. Because DOB had nothing to do with it. He only wrote what was inside the article, which did not contain any false information.
February 20th, 20091:22 pm
The Braves had that RH bat they needed between Chipper and McCann, actually he was a RH and LH bat. They had what they needed in Tex and should have paid to keep him, but they didn’t. To me as of now, I think it is best to start the year with a Jones/Diaz platoon in LF and Anderson in CF. As far as cleanup goes, I guess it has to go to McCann and Francouer on days Mc isn’t in there.
Bravo – din’t they just sign Nick Markakis to a LARGE DEAL, long term, plus Angelos loves them GREEK boys !
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