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Andy K.
February 20th, 2009
11:03 am
Lunatic FringeI wouldn’t put too much stock into MLB depth charts, I mean, they tabbed Diaz’s season as disappointing statistically…what was the guy supposed to do? He was hurt basically all year…
Brandon O
February 20th, 2009
11:03 am
Great Article on why Braves should sign Garret Anderson:
http://mlbnotebook.com/2009/02/mr-anderson.html
McFann :Ô:
February 20th, 2009
11:05 am
HAPPY BIRTHDAY, McCANN!!
TJ
February 20th, 2009
11:07 am
And just to be correct to mike at 10:59, the owner of the Dallas Mavericks is Mark Cuban. With a “C”, not Kuban….
Coxlover
February 20th, 2009
11:08 am
Happy 25th Birthday Brian McCann !!!
dogsbrekky
February 20th, 2009
11:09 am
Mate – I will see your piddly Florida ‘gators and raise you an Aussie salty croc..
I have an empty place in Winter Springs down there if you get scared of the reptiles… but that would add at least an hour to your daily commute each way…
Did the bloggers solve our LF crisis or the economic mess yet !
“Shake and Bake”
PIZZARO
February 20th, 2009
11:09 am
Now that the streak has been over for several years and high profile player have shunned Atlanta there’s more humility on the blog. It’s nice to see that the current poster’s on the blog don’t act as if baseball was invented by the Braves.
Lunatic Fringe
February 20th, 2009
11:09 am
Andy K.
Agree that I don’t put much stock in their stats, but the problem remains. in that we want to play a bunch of young guys or add another bat (Nady Swisher etc) or platoon in possibly 2 spots in the OF, but we don’t have much room to maneuver in the lineup.
We have to keep Ross, and probably Infante to back up Chipper. So that leaves Diaz, Prado, Norton, B. Jones, and Blanco as guys who may have to go if we had someone, or Shafer of Anderson make the lineup.
TDub
February 20th, 2009
11:09 am
Don’t think you guys are being creative enough – Anderson is likely too expensive and Manny WILL NEVER HAPPEN (let us know when the acid wears off, Phar71). With Anderson, you’d likely get similar production by moving Kelly to LF and playing Prado at 2B for far less money.
PTBNL
February 20th, 2009
11:10 am
You people that keep asking about past events need to check out previous blogs. Do you really think you are the only one to ask about those things? Do you really expect David to answer the same question to everyone who comes to the blog an hour after the last one asked? Please be considerate. Read elsewhere. David has had a rough time the last few days, he does not need to be (unintentionally) harassed for the next few days by people’s curiosity. So again, I ask you to be considerate.
Crash
February 20th, 2009
11:10 am
I’m a huge fan of Blanco in the leadoff spot. I’m fully aware Anderson is out of options and played well down the stretch last year, but I thought Blanco had the best plate appearances of anyone on the team last year. In addition to posting a good on-base percentage, his at-bats were fantastic, seeing and fouling off a ton of pitches. There isn’t a lot that separates him from Anderson- they are almost identical players- but his ability to see more pitches might be the one difference.
moose knuckle
February 20th, 2009
11:11 am
rhynster – Lew – thanks. maybe he gets more starts b/c he’s the only lefty? maybe has more innings vs. a younger guy (JJJ<KK)? 1 game at a time. maybe we should play good defense 1st before givin a hoot who starts when during the 162
McFann :Ô:
February 20th, 2009
11:12 am
dogsbrekky “Shake and Bake”
We went to Steak and Shake for dinner last night.
Tom
February 20th, 2009
11:13 am
What is this whole Hudson thing everyone is talking about???
dogsbrekky
February 20th, 2009
11:13 am
TDUB – I agree, Garrett does not excite me in the least… rather let Diaz even just have a go against righties as Anderson splits about the same versus LHP and RHP
David O'Brien
February 20th, 2009
11:13 am
Frank, just words exchanged in the clubhouse. Nothing more. Hudson believed the person who insinuated that the AJC story provided the impetus for Griffey to change his mind.
Oh, and he was upset about me speculating on who’d be removed form 40-man if they got Glavine and Griffey, though Bowman did the same thing.
Actually, what Hudson was upset about in that regard was a report that said Blanco and Lerew WOULD BE taken off the 40-man, based on my innocuous blog comment. It’s a typical occurence these days, when someone writing or commenting on some half-ass blog out there (and I’m not talking about the reputable, solid blogs, of which there are plenty) will take what I made clear was entirely speculation on my part, just answering a reader’s question of who MIGHT be taken off the roster, and someone will run with that and post it as “Blanco and Lerew WILL BE removed from the 40-man, according to …”
You’d drive yourself nuts trying to exlain to some people who just don’t seem to grasp that we can’t be responsible for someone in this internet era taking what we’ve written, something that I or we have labeled as clear speculation, and attributing it to us as something definitive. You’d spend 24 hours a day policing the internet trying to stay on top of all the cut-and-pasters doing that stuff.
Coxlover
February 20th, 2009
11:14 am
Tom, have you been living under a rock the last day ?
PTBNL
February 20th, 2009
11:15 am
Part of the reason Glavin would be a #5 starter is not based on his ability, but also based on his age and the fact that he just came off of surgery. No one can actually predict who will be pitching where at any point in the season right now. If anyone should know this, it should be Braves fans.
fifthbusiness
February 20th, 2009
11:15 am
DOB I just had a crazy thought. If Keith Richards, Mick Jagger, or any of those other sixty something coliseum rockers had to pea in a cup and have it reported how many roids and uppers would show up? Or would the the other stuff mask it?
Andy K.
February 20th, 2009
11:15 am
Lunatic FringeGood point, right now, Wren may have to hope a guy like Jones, etc, can cl rear waivers and start in Gwinnett.
Danga
February 20th, 2009
11:15 am
Dogsbrekky…We haven’t gotten to the LF spot or the economic crisis, yet. I believe we are still trying to figure out the consistency of coffee farts.
detroitchris
February 20th, 2009
11:15 am
DOB,
whats your feeling on the cowboy junkies take of “sweet jane”?
Brad in MT
February 20th, 2009
11:16 am
DOB…whats the deal with this new blog? It sucks compared to the old one…after I refresh it doesn’t jump to where I was before and all the comments aren’t here. I was hoping for an improvement, but this is worse than the old one.
ssiscribe
February 20th, 2009
11:16 am
The more I think about it, the more Garret Anderson makes sense to me. Same number of homers last season against RHP as Griffey, average vs. RHP 21 points higher than Junior, drove in 21 more runs. Only two errors in his last 261 games in left field. Only struck out 77 times in 557 at-bats.
Dude hits for good average, decent power, plays good defense, stole seven bases last season … I think it’s worth at least a call from Wren to see if the Braves could make it happen. You could do a lot worse.
–30–
A Real Fan
February 20th, 2009
11:17 am
Why does O’Brien still have a job?
Barry
February 20th, 2009
11:17 am
With all this talk about the Braves needing help in the outfield and having a power hitter out there, remember that I’m available and will work for a lot less than I know I’m worth. Call me.
DAP
February 20th, 2009
11:19 am
cameron id bet that diaz could hit as many homers as shafer or jones. dude hit 12 in 2007 with just 350 ABs, so its not like hes a black hole in the power department.
Andy K.
February 20th, 2009
11:19 am
DOB, or anyone else that can answer this, when a player has Minor League options left, I know that they lose one if they get sent back down. But, do they lose yet another one in being called back up, or no? thanks in advance.
Thrillhouse44
February 20th, 2009
11:20 am
Mail, Lew.
dogsbrekky
February 20th, 2009
11:20 am
Danga – I hear you mate. I went to a new Brazilian restaurant here in NYC last night and finished with an Irish coffee, and then this am had another coffee in the park… letting fly with sme beauties now but cannot work out which farts are worse, Irish coffee ones or regular coffee rippers…. will analyse and advise later
Sharon
February 20th, 2009
11:22 am
Great, Glavines back for another round of nothing. Didnt someone tell him he should retire and here we have Hanson just waiting to ACE our rotation and nope. Glavine wants to play for one more year. Whoppeeee.
C's
February 20th, 2009
11:24 am
PEOPLE READ!!!!!!
THERE IS A DISCLAIMER AT THE TOP OF THE SCREEN THAT READS:
Editor Note: Because of technical problems, we’re temporarily limiting the display of comments to the 100 most recent. But all the comments are being preserved, and when we get this fixed (SOON, we hope), they’ll all reappear.
semiballcoach
February 20th, 2009
11:24 am
i think the options are for the entire season, so they can go up and down as often as needed
ease19
February 20th, 2009
11:24 am
detriotchris That is my favorite version…
I believe DOB said on the radio (680 The Fan) that Hudson believes everything that he hears, so if that is the case then his reaction is understandable…but thanks to DOB for clearing it up!
TBraveFan
February 20th, 2009
11:24 am
Sharon — didn’t anyone tell YOU about what happens to young pitchers who are rushed up to an “ACE” role too soon?? Don’t YOU remember poor Joey Devine?
Danga
February 20th, 2009
11:24 am
Mmm…Irish coffee. That is all I would ever want for dessert.
Blake Penno
February 20th, 2009
11:25 am
DOB
Are you sure you didn’t make a comment about the Big 12 being better than the SEC to Huddy? Those of us from Alabama take that serious.
Enjoyed the blog, as always.
ccrider
February 20th, 2009
11:25 am
ccrider
February 20th, 2009
11:25 pm
Anders: It is sad that instead of being a fan of your own team, on a blog with other Mets bloggers discussing your team’s possibilities and hopes, you spend your time pontificating about a team and it’s fans that you care nothing about. You would rather be a constant annoyance to everyone on this blog, most that do not enjoy your contributions(including DOB himself, whose is fairly tolerant), than go somewhere that you might be appreciated and conversed with in a more friendly way. I truly feel sad for you. You must live a life where the only attention you can garner is by being an contarian, thus drawing attention to yourself not for you wit or knowledge, but for your spite and ill intentions. You are like so many of the ill-informed bloggers that have posted on the Griffey signing. They don’t bother to see the facts of how and why it concluded the way it did, they just want to rail at someone for the inadequacies of their lives. You seem to be smart enough to see your not wanted here. Ask yourself a question? Why?
moose knuckle
February 20th, 2009
11:25 am
has there been any word on KK’s adjustment to a bigger ball?
dogsbrekky
February 20th, 2009
11:25 am
Does Hudson have some man-love for Blanco/Lerew or what
“Not that there is anything wrong with that”
McFann :Ô:
February 20th, 2009
11:27 am
A Real Fan
Ya know what? No. I don’t think you are.
Danga
February 20th, 2009
11:28 am
Moose Knuckle…Not specifically. But this was written yesterday.
http://www.ajc.com/braves/content/sports/braves/stories/2009/02/19/braves_notes.html
PIZZARO
February 20th, 2009
11:31 am
ccrider–don’t be a pecker head. live and let live.
moose knuckle
February 20th, 2009
11:31 am
thanks. i was looking for some specifics. maybe i check the japenese reporters info as he would be more apt to talk to them due to language.
tvsportscaster
February 20th, 2009
11:33 am
Andy K, to answer your question about minor league options. A player can be optioned up and down as many times as the club wants during the season and it only counts as one option. Options, simply mean years. A player has three options from the time he’s put on the 40-man roster, meaning he has three years left of minor league options.
Lew
February 20th, 2009
11:33 am
Huddy needs to get a grip and worry about getting himself back in shape. WTF does he think will happen to the 40 man roster if we get another outfielder or bring up players who don’t currently reside on the 40 man? It won’t be his call, anyway and since he’s not going to be the one dropped, he needs to just get over it.
Thrillhouse-Got it. Thanks, Dude.
Tom
February 20th, 2009
11:34 am
CoxLover, I either live under a rock, or I have a life that doesn’t include reading blogs 24/7 (especially ones that only show 100 comments).
yuupp
February 20th, 2009
11:34 am
Frank Wren was being smart when he was deciding to keep quiet about who the braves were trying to aquire and as soon as he got sloppy and opened his mouth again it backfired on him. their were crappy leaks saying Griffey was coming to the braves which ruined all of Wrens plans – id expect Wren too keep his mouth shut if he has any interest in signing Anderson – in my opinion Anderson should have been their target in the first place and it would be a bad move by Wren not to go after him.
Thrillhouse44
February 20th, 2009
11:36 am
DOB, who gets dropped from the 40 man roster when Hudson comes back?
ease19
February 20th, 2009
11:36 am
ccrider Anders has explained why he is on this blog and I don’t really mind his perspective. He is a Mets fan, but also a DOB fan, which cannot be said of a bunch on here.
McFann You go girl!
AGTFan
February 20th, 2009
11:37 am
I love the question for Glavine about Radar Gun. LOL. His most effective pitch has always been in the mid to low 70s. Some total moron (or someone pretending to be a total moron) asked why DOB is still employed. Duh, maybe because he is one of if not the best at what he does.
My predictions for next season is that signing Glavine will turn out to be one of the best bargains of the year for any team. He pitched with pain for so many years that he didn’t recognize when he was really injured until he had a few terrible outings. He bounces back this year. Also Frenchy and Diaz bounce back this year.
Coxlover
February 20th, 2009
11:37 am
Tom, baseball is my life.
Lew
February 20th, 2009
11:37 am
Pizarro_You mean as opposed to the Mets, who though they may not have invented choking, have still done their part in continuing the tradition?
AGTFan
February 20th, 2009
11:38 am
Oh and happy birthday McFann. I predict another All-Star season and appearance this year.
DAP
February 20th, 2009
11:39 am
hey guys, several spot available for free fantasy baseball. its all blog regulars. email me if you want to get s team: daalper@yahoo.com mcfann, you oughta try it. youd have fun.
Lew
February 20th, 2009
11:40 am
Yupp-Thanks for the informative post with all the brand new conjecture. You’ve added SO much to the debate. What would we do without the added insight?
Random
February 20th, 2009
11:40 am
Brad in MT, Martin Legat, Steve McP, PTBNL, ALL DENIZENS –
I strongly urge everybody to go to From the geeks: What’s happening with your comments and let them know what YOU want the blog to be able to do.
They’re currently fixin’ to “fix” it, which unless we let them know our wants and needs, could just as easily mean castrate as repair (just like in real life).
I am sure that they’d appreciate all of us sharing how we use the blog — eg, searching the blog for particular commenters or topics — that will help them as they move forward with the fixes. They’re currently logging our “use cases” in their system.
So let them know how you use the blog and how you want to be able to use it. (It’s also preferable if you would not be pricks about it.)
PS: PTBNL (11:10 am)– see above (“Editor Note: Because of technical problems, we’re temporarily limiting the display of comments to the 100 most recent.”)
Nick in PA
February 20th, 2009
11:41 am
DOB,
Wouldnt Garret Anderson be just as good if not a better option than Griffey was?
Lew
February 20th, 2009
11:42 am
ease19-Anders a DOB fan? Dude, have you really been reading Anders’ posts? I don’t think that’s how I would describe him.
Butch Haynes
February 20th, 2009
11:46 am
I think in a fight, Travis the Chimpanzee would kick both Griffey and Garrett Anderson’s butts, after which he would remove their faces.
cvbraves
February 20th, 2009
11:46 am
Have to go with Chipper on the LF option. He said in article on AJC page or Braves.com page today that he thought the team needed a power RH bat between him and McCann. He was specific.
IMO, this is not to say that the platoon in LF with current Braves won’t suffice or even that Garrett Anderson is not on the radar. Just Chipper’s perspective (and mine).
John
February 20th, 2009
11:49 am
The Braves have failed completely with their off season plan. They have no leadoff hitter, no cleanup hitter, no outfield power and got only one decent starter when they needed two or three. The loss of prospects like Furcal, Peavy and even Griffey were public and toxic and demoralizing. John Smoltz will be sorely missed. Liberty Media and Frank Wren should be fired.
DCBrave
February 20th, 2009
11:50 am
DOB-
For next Wed’s first ST game, when do you think Bobby may decide who’ll pitch? The day before?
Friday The 13th Remake Was Okay
February 20th, 2009
11:52 am
I’ve been a braves fan since Murphy…However I just cant see our team being able to compete this year…I mean I believe are team is as young if not younger than 2005 when we won the division…Are lineup besides maybe 3 to 4 players will be “nonames”
ease19
February 20th, 2009
11:52 am
Lew – I just meant in light of what has been going here the last couple of days…He is afterall a Mets fan (nugh said) and he reminds me of Newman from Seinfeld…Hated but necessary for the comic relief…
Tony
February 20th, 2009
11:53 am
That’s to show to don’t ever make a new blog or come out in public just because a “friend” tells you guys something. Don’t EVER do that again. I wish Hudson would of beat your ass! Next time keep your little “sources” to yourself and wait for an official word because posting anything.
Gil In Mechanicsville
February 20th, 2009
11:54 am
While I think Garrett Anderson would be a plus for the Braves if they were to cut Norton (which is not going to happen) , the biggest difference between Junior and Garrett is the star factor. It’s likely the number of fans KGj would draw would just about make up the salary for him. If you check out the incentive package given to Junior by the M’s you will find that attendance figures are tied to part of his bonus.
Danga
February 20th, 2009
11:55 am
Tony…About 2 or 3 days late on that one. I believe those exact comments have already been posted 347 times.
GTSteve
February 20th, 2009
11:55 am
Hey Dave, I will be down in a couple of weeks at the game in Tampa, can I by you a beer?
Gil In Mechanicsville
February 20th, 2009
11:55 am
Hey Tony… You’re “and” idiot….
Coxlover
February 20th, 2009
11:55 am
I really think we need to get Garret Anderson to play LF. Considering how bad our outfield was last year, I think he would help us a lot. He hit close to .300 with 15 HR’s, 84 RBI’s last year.
Tony
February 20th, 2009
11:55 am
“I believe DOB said on the radio (680 The Fan) that Hudson believes everything that he hears, so if that is the case then his reaction is understandable…but thanks to DOB for clearing it up!”
There is nothing to clear up. Point blank is people shouldn’t be posting anything just because a FRIEND said something. You wait until its official and someone inside the Braves said’s something. There is no excuse for this. I wish DOB would just point the finger to himself and say that he is wrong for this. He should know that all the media outlets in the MLB look at this site and take DOB serious (Well use to).
dogsbrekky
February 20th, 2009
11:56 am
John – take one of my positive pills….
We needed pitching and we now have a very good starting rotation which if they play things properly can handle Glavine if his arm needs more time, Jurrjens if we do not want to extend his innings, Kawakami if he tires, Hanson if he is ready…. add Lowe who finished the season better than any other pitcher not named CC, Vazquez who strikes out a bazillion hitters and will not have head case Ozzie pissant bugging him PLUS an AWESOME BULLPEN…..
plus we have some kids coming up who deserve a chance to prove themselves
DiamondbackMac
February 20th, 2009
11:56 am
Tony
Get over it! It’s history.
BravesFanInRockies
February 20th, 2009
11:56 am
Mornin’ folks. A little calmer here today? (Can’t tell because of the limited comments displayed, but I see we’re all a bit bent out of shape about that .)
cvbraves, I’m with Chipper, but unless they’re planning to pursue Nady, given budget constraints, I don’t know who that RH power hitter could be. You could plug Diaz in that spot vs LHP, I suppose. He won’t give you HR power, but his career OPS vs. lefties is .869. Extend his career numbers to a 600 AB season, he’d hit 20+ HR, 30+ 2B. It’s acceptable but not eye-popping.
As DOB suggested last night, if there’s no real difference maker out there for the money they can spend, it might do as well to wait until mid-season and see whose salaries are being dumped.
Catfish
February 20th, 2009
11:56 am
DOB: Great job w/ the blog. I’m not much of a blogger but I thoroughly enjoy coming on here and finding out what’s goin on w/ the Braves.
Quick question: What do you think about the possibility of the Braves trading one of their starting pitchers like Lowe, Jurrjens, Hudson, Vasquez, or Kawakami before the All-Star break for a big bat in the OF or a big bat at 1B? That’s assuming Hudson comes back fully healthy and can pitch in August and assuming Hanson is progressing nicely and we can’t keep him out of the majors any longer. That sounds like way too many good pitchers for a 5 man rotation. It would be hard to move Lowe at his salary but if Vasquez or Kawakami come on strong that just seems like a logical thing to do. Hudson’s still got an option for next year and I don’t see the Braves keeping him and Lowe since they’re similar type of pitchers and both will be making big money. Obviously, Hudson might not have much trade value until he proves he’s healthy. I would hope if Hudson comes back healthy, the Braves wouldn’t just let him walk away for nothing after 2010.
I love the pitching depth and think Wren should be commended for solidifying the staff. JS is very proud I’m sure. B/c when you have a bunch of good pitchers it enables you to win close ball games, not tire out your bullpen, and use them in a trade if you’ve got enough depth.
The main problem I have w/ our lineup is the following: We need a true leadoff hitter that gets on base and has the capacity to steal a base w/ consistency. Johnson, Escobar and Prado are all great players that I like but none of them are lead off guys. Hopefully, Josh Anderson fills that role this year. We need more power production at 1B and the corner outfield spots.
Tony
February 20th, 2009
11:57 am
“Tony…About 2 or 3 days late on that one. I believe those exact comments have already been posted 347 times.”
348 times now.
Tomahawk210
February 20th, 2009
11:58 am
DOB How’s Jordan Schafer looking?
DiamondbackMac
February 20th, 2009
11:58 am
Enter your comments here
Martin Legat
February 20th, 2009
11:59 am
Random, I appreciate your comments at 11:40. However, the egotistical Bronosky needs to be the one asking. His comments yesterday lead me to believe it would be a waste of time. To wit:
“Taking that long is unacceptable to me (and it is my call to make). Others (like Colbrave) have disagreed.” and “But, I am a usability expert. I will personally get involved and make sure that the updated pagination experience makes you say “wow, this is how it should be done!””
Andy K.
February 20th, 2009
11:59 am
Catfish</strong, the Bravos signed Lowe to a 4 year, 60 million deal. I think they plan on having him around. I mean, when Huddy comes back, looks at this rotation: Huddy, D-Lowe, Jurrjens, Vazquez, Kawakami, Glavine (2009), Hanson. And not to mention Morton, Parr, etc waiting in the wings.
rammerjammer
February 20th, 2009
12:01 pm
Francoeur can be that RH bat behind Chipper. He has six weeks to prove capable. Personally, I like Mac behind Chipper, THEN Francoeur, Kotchman, Diaz/Jones and Anderson.
Lew
February 20th, 2009
12:01 pm
ease19-Comic relief is definitely much closer to how I would describe him.
THE BEAR Illegitimi non carborundum
February 20th, 2009
12:02 pm
On another blog (and I don’t know how to keep up with them these days) WAYNE from Utah talked about what Griffey was doing in playing Atlanta against Seattle. I think he was dead on.
This note is addressed to him. It was posted on another blog and disappeared.
Wayne,
It appears you are hitting on the real deal about Griffey’s intent and that was to play one team against the other. Let’s face it, that happens all the time. As a matter of fact all of us do it anytime we put something on EBay or any other bidding site. What we are hoping for are two or more bidders for if we only get one we are in trouble.
If I have a car to sell and run an ad for XXXX price (or best offer) I am sure hoping I am going to get more than one offer.
The problem here is that baseball contract negotiations are (in many cases) out in the open and there are hundreds of fans watching every move. And when the final decision comes down the losing fans get upset. What separates the good fans from the bad ones are at times rather dramatic. I will say I never dreamed we would see so many nutcases come out of the woodwork and vent their spleens over a has been star who is fading fast. One thing I noticed is that the most vicious were those whose monickers were some we had never seen on this blog before. Maybe they are regulars who are ashamed to show their real faces. If that is the case they should have known that what they were writing, yelling for DOB’s head (literally), was beyond the pale of decency. Idiots like that leave me perplexed.
The other factor is the availability of a blog such as this. Nowhere else in the country (to my knowledge) is there a blog that is as popular as this one. And, that is solely because of the effort David puts into this thing. He is on this site around the clock or so it seems from the timing of many of his posts. It is time we appreciate him for his efforts and get over Griffey. Griffey played this for all it is worth and he made it work. Until he contacted Atlanta he was stuck with one bid for $1 million dollar. He exploited that into the possibility of making $4.5 mil and a job with the team after his playing days are over. I’d say Griffey played this violin perfectly. And there is no way in hell Frank Wren could determine that he was simply being used as a ploy. No way.
Finally it is obvious Tim Hudson was out of line and I hope he is man enough to apologize to David O’Brien for what he said or did, whatever it was.
Freshmaker
February 20th, 2009
12:02 pm
John, how do you fire the owner? Other than not getting a power bat in the OF, the Braves have done a good job in the offseason. Stop being so negative.
yankeedawg
February 20th, 2009
12:04 pm
Anders = Village Idiot
ET
February 20th, 2009
12:04 pm
Yuupp,
Wren didn’t leak anything. The leaks came from friends of Griffey, our players, (Jones etc), & Griffey’s agent. It was the perfect set up to get Seattle to up the ante…which they did. Their offer went from 1 mil guarantee to a 2 mil guarantee plus a promise that he would have a job after he retires.
I think Griffey wanted to be shown love from Seattle and had to use us to get it. Smoltz pulled the same thing, except Wren wouldn’t play the game by upping the ante. Wren knew what figure he could pay Smoltz to sit on the disabled list. Wren was willing to pay Smoltz just as much as Boston for a healthy Smoltz. Smoltz wanted the money regardless of his health.
Furcal played the same game with LA. He used us to get LA to pay him more money. The more I see of the greed of the players today the more I despise the player’s union. (don’t get me started on the Auto union killing the big three).
rammerjammer
February 20th, 2009
12:05 pm
If Hanson is all everyone says, look for Vazquez to be dealt for an outfielder. Lowe stays, as does JJ, and Kawakami hasn’t established his trade value.
ease19
February 20th, 2009
12:06 pm
rammerjammer – I agree with Jeff as the RH behind Chipper. I think that he will see more pitches to hit as I doubt that teams would want to walk him to get to McCann
Gibby
February 20th, 2009
12:10 pm
I Can’t wait to start talking about the players on the field.
Matt
February 20th, 2009
12:11 pm
Lets sign Garrett Anderson by the end of the weekend.
rammerjammer
February 20th, 2009
12:11 pm
ease19,
That makes sense. So much depends on Francoeur getting it back. If he’s the 2008 Frenchy after a couple of months, I wouldn’t be shocked if he was sent down…and for more than a weekend.
dogsbrekky
February 20th, 2009
12:11 pm
DOB – Can we get a run down in the next few days how the kids look so far in spring training.
I know myself and others are very interested in seeing how Schafer, Jones (B) and Josh A look
“Ta ta for now”
Anders
February 20th, 2009
12:12 pm
Ease19 – I appreciated your kind words, well at least until you let Lew pull you into his negative karma. Be yourself. Don’t let his self appointed omniscient blog demeanor sway you. I haven’t.
Will someone please look up omniscient for Yankeedawg. Thanks.
Catfish
February 20th, 2009
12:13 pm
Andy: I agree that the rotation looks really strong for this year, next year and the immediate future. I’m sure Lowe will be around for awhile and I hope so b/c those sinker ballers can pitch effectively forever. My point is that going into 2010 the Braves could have the following guys all looking for spots in the rotation: Lowe, Hudson, Kawakami, Vazquez, Jurrjens, and Hanson. I think Hanson will end up being our #1 pitcher before all is said and done. Followed by D. Lowe and the rest. If everyone stays healthy (big if, knock on wood), then we’ve got too many good pitchers and not enough spots to put them in. That’s why I think a trade during the season or after the season makes sense if we can get the right big bat in here and not have to give up any major prospects. Teams always need good reliable SPs. Just look at the Braves last year.
If we could get one more big bat (I’m not talking about someone like Griffey. I’m talking someone in their prime. A quality player you could get for a quality SP.) and plug it into a lineup with Chipper, Frenchy, McCann, Schaffer, Escober, etc. on top of a great rotation, we’d be set.
Braves are in good shape. The farm system is absolutely stacked (which is sort of a surprise considering we gave up a lot of prospects for Tex and Vasquez). Just another reason to commend our scouting system.
Ian Curtis
February 20th, 2009
12:15 pm
“Tim Hudson was out of line…”
Well, the fact is that AJC and David O’ Brien have been doing some shady reporting. I mean seriously, let’s write an article about how Griffey agreed to play for the Braves because of what some “friend” had said. A friend is not a reliable source, my friend. Journalism will teach you to prevent these kinds of gaffes, such as mentioning in your article that it is just mere speculation rather than acting like it’s a valid fact. The fact is, David O’ Brien posted that article in hopes of being the first to break the news, trying to get ahead of everyone else before ever checking or validating his sources. This undeniably put him in the dog house
Yet, I can’t help but notice how his cult following is backing him up 100%, and that is just mind boggling. It seems the readers of AJC are David O’ Brien fans first, and Braves fans second. Well then, “hear, hear” my fellow constituents, let’s all hear what the mighty David O’ Brien has to say next, shall we?
elliwg6
February 20th, 2009
12:15 pm
John,
“firing the owner”…..whatever that means, brings the payroll to ZERO. No owner means no money. Learn how baseball works before you shoot your mouth off and criticize the offseason acquisitions.
THE BEAR Illegitimi non carborundum
February 20th, 2009
12:16 pm
Tony, you are an idiot.
John, you also are an idiot.
Neither of you know what you are talking about. Get another life, you are in over your heads in this one.
DAP
February 20th, 2009
12:18 pm
my guesses for the braves rotation for the next couple of years(not including spot starts of half seasons by hanson, morton, jojo, ect) are
2009: lowe, vazquez, jurjens, kawakami, glavine
2010: hudson, lowe, jurjens, kawakami, hanson
2011: lowe, jurjens, hanson, kawakami, morton
just guessing, but all of those rotations look pretty good, assuming morton and hanson turn out like we think they will. morton could be trade bait, since there isnt a slot for him and he is pretty much ready now. the braves have enough pitching lower in the system to make him available, but i like morton. i hope he get a chance soon.
Catfish
February 20th, 2009
12:18 pm
DOB would’ve been neglecting his duties as a journalist if he didn’t report the story that he had. He never said Griffey was certainly coming here. He only went forward on the info. provided to him by his source. We just got spoiled w/ JS b/c this type of stuff never seemed to become as public. Or in the alternative b/c we always landed the first guy we wanted and then quit playin in the free agent pool.