Griffey to Atlanta: Nevermind

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Bubdylan

February 20th, 2009
12:18 am

Oromus, everybody who has DOB’s back isn’t bashing Huddy. For example, I’m not.

Secondly, what you’re talking about isn’t Braves Loyalty versus DOB Loyalty, it’s Tim Hudson Loylaty versus DOB Loyalty. Neither of them “is” the Braves we are loyal to.

By your logic, when Chipper and Smoltzy got into it a while back, what if we took sides with one of them, therefore against the other? Would we be against the team?

(I do agree with you that bashing Huddy without knowing the full story isn’t a great way to support DOB or anyone else, but keep in mind that a lot of bloggers do have kind of a friendship with David, and they’ve been watching him take a sh*tload of unbelievable heat, including “shoot-yourself” and so forth, for quite a few dreary hours now. Their not liable to be in any more rational a state of mind than… Tim Hudson.)

Andrew

February 20th, 2009
12:18 am

joe mariner i’m not mad at ya..i just think that youtube guy is funny for posting that

Bubdylan

February 20th, 2009
12:18 am

“They’re,” I meant… not “their.” Yeesh.

Wayne in Utah

February 20th, 2009
12:19 am

coxlover

How about opening day? (a pipe dream of mine)

johnbama

February 20th, 2009
12:20 am

Coxlover I think Hanson will play a major role in the second half and be a frontline starter for the Braves as early as 2010. Dude is special

Coxlover

February 20th, 2009
12:20 am

Someone actually told O’Brien to shoot himself ?

Andrew

February 20th, 2009
12:21 am

maybe Heyward will be the next griffey..if there ever will be one which im not so sure of that..griff broke in when he was very young so im sure others can..

Coxlover

February 20th, 2009
12:22 am

I think next year our pitching will be better than this year. Hanson will probably start all year next year, hopefully Hudson will be healthy. I doubt we’ll have Glavine though next year.

N8

February 20th, 2009
12:23 am

I have to say, I believe that I lost some respect for Hudson today. Too bad.

That being said, I’m not sure what was said between you two. But the only thing more ridiculous than the notion of Griffey NOT coming to the Braves because of what you reported, is that a current member (if you can call a guy that MIGHT pitch in a handful of games a current member), would call you out on it.

These guys have to realize that the SILLY (and it IS silly) money that they get to play a game is perpetuated by the media feeding the fans’ frenzy over coverage of them playing this game.

Grow up Hudson. Better yet, put on some weight so you don’t dehydrate yourself in the southern heat down the stretch.

DOB, do you REALLY “strut” around the clubhouse the way that article says you do? LOL! I guess if you look like Nicholas Cage, you might as well act like him, right? “I said…. put… the bunny….back in the box”.

johnbama

February 20th, 2009
12:23 am

that is stupid!!! DOB does a great job….never entertained participating in a blog until i started reading this one. He does a great job.

Oromus

February 20th, 2009
12:25 am

Bubdylan, I’m not saying DOB deserves to be attacked, but he is the one who messed up here. Well, he and the AJC. The Article read “Griffey Chooses Beaves”. And even Wren says that Griffey and his agent stopped all contact after the Article came out. This is likely due to the Mariners calling Griffey and telling him that they’d do whatever it takes. It just seems that the AJC article definitely had a factor. And IMO, one of our players has the right to be mad over that fact. They want our team to succeed. Period. I have Hudsons back on this 100%. In the Furture I hope the AJC and DOB are a little more careful with the way they write things.

BA

February 20th, 2009
12:25 am

Hang in there, DOB. Got nothing but love for ya. What a rough couple of days!

Bubdylan is right. This ain’t about choosing sides. I love the Braves, and I’ve always liked Hudson.

But I don’t see Hudson on here fielding questions at two in the morning.

Andrew

February 20th, 2009
12:25 am

2010 rotation- hudson,jurrjens,lowe,hanson,kawakami or javy

DiamondbackMac

February 20th, 2009
12:25 am

Andrew Welcome to the blog. It’s nice to hear from someone new with a different slant on things.

Andrew

February 20th, 2009
12:27 am

we are going to have a helluva 1-2 punch..jurrjens and hanson…and there only what 22 years old? wow

Coxlover

February 20th, 2009
12:27 am

I still don’t understand why Tim Kurkjian says the Braves have nowhere near the starting pitching to compete with the Phillies and Mets this year.

N8

February 20th, 2009
12:28 am

spotts, your 12:13 pretty much sums it up for me.

That’s my question as well. Did Hudson have to be restrained from Chipper too? Because in the end, DOB was only reporting what Chipper told him. If Hudson has a problem with DOB, he should have a BIGGER problem with Chipper.

My guess is that he didn’t say a frickin’ word to Chipper about it.

I don’t dislike Hudson, in fact I hope he comes back and helps and that our season is stil relevant in August/September, so it actually matters.

I’ll root for him when he pitches, and hope the Braves excercise his 2010 option. He CAN help this team.

But getting into a spat with the beat-writer over a head case like Griffey apparently is, is silly at best.

Oromus

February 20th, 2009
12:30 am

“But I don’t see Hudson on here fielding questions at two in the morning.” This is DOBs JOB. He is paid to bring traffic to the site with this Blog.

Bubdylan

February 20th, 2009
12:31 am

Orumus, I think it’s reasonable for you to take sides with Hudson (would be easier all around if we knew more). Just trying to explain that the other side isn’t as goofy as it seems to you.

BA

February 20th, 2009
12:32 am

n8, what article did you read? I only saw the Yahoo Sports thing- can you tell me where to go to find some more of the salacious details?

This is just bizarre…

Keith

February 20th, 2009
12:32 am

If this is the reason Griffey signed in Seattle then he has less class then Furcal’s agents. Hotstove reporting is fun and rivals the July trade deadline. It is part of the business. Wren has had a baptism by fire. He and the Braves will be the better for it. Maybe not this year but next and so on. I still hope we land Ludwick. Maybe…

Chop Chop

February 20th, 2009
12:33 am

Oromus,

I’m glad that “Griffey Chooses Beaves.” Good for him.

Chop Chop

February 20th, 2009
12:34 am

In the furture, I hope that Griffey will continue to choose them.

Hudson Ferry

February 20th, 2009
12:34 am

IF little Timmy wants to help this club, instead of engaging in a shouting match with a reporter, how about getting his rag A$$ arm into shape and not continue this morphing into Mike Hampton.
Toe the slab, tough guy.

Chop Chop

February 20th, 2009
12:34 am

12:25 didn’t go to well for Oromus.

N8

February 20th, 2009
12:35 am

BA, click on the link that coxlover put up at 11:51.

You’re right. This is VERY bizarre.

hubris

February 20th, 2009
12:35 am

Who’d have thought Braves were capable of so much drama in the mode of the Yankees or the Red Sox. Seriously, the whole off-season of someone’s coming or not coming (Peavy & Burnett), a former fan favorite using his former team to get a better contract and his agent reneging on a “verbal promise” (Furcal), a legend feeling he was “disrespected” (Smoltz), a has-been trying to coerce the Braves a major league contract by instigating public opinion (A. Jones), a different legend “shunning” the Braves (Griffey), and now the team’s ace and the team’s most well-known beat writer in a shouting match.

All this and we haven’t even played a single game–not even a spring training exhibition game… Methinks this is going to be one crazy year.

Chop Chop

February 20th, 2009
12:36 am

The “to well” was my own attempt at typo glory. I’m not ambitious enough.

Hudson Ferry

February 20th, 2009
12:36 am

Chipper would pick up Hudson Ferry and deposit him into Lake Oswego. Real tough guy with the beat writers.

DiamondbackMac

February 20th, 2009
12:36 am

Andrew I meant to direct that last post to Joe Mariner.

AZ Braves Fan

February 20th, 2009
12:36 am

Here are the Glavine details, in case you haven’t seen them. And they’re penned by our fearless leader, no less, who must be tired after quite an eventful day….

http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/sports/braves/stories/2009/02/19/braves_glavine.html

Oromus

February 20th, 2009
12:37 am

“Oromus,

I’m glad that “Griffey Chooses Beaves.” Good for him.”

Well, my mistake was only off by one key, DOB’s on the other hand…..

I honestly hope that a lot of the Braves stop talking to DOB as much when it comes to things like this. No one likes a reporter who jumps the gun carelessly. DOB was tasting his scoop so hard, he didn’t think for a second that it could hurt the Braves on going negotiations. Oh, but I forgot.. HE’S the victim here. Poor guy.

Hudson Ferry

February 20th, 2009
12:38 am

Oromus, Grammer is your friend. Do yourself a huge favor and avoid any room with a “SAT Testing in Progress” sign on the door. We must establish a minimum level of competence for Tim Hudson sycophants.

Andrew

February 20th, 2009
12:39 am

dbackmac, come on man dont hurt my feelings i was feeling welcome here after your nice comment

N8

February 20th, 2009
12:39 am

BA, I think we read the same thing (I just clicked on the link again, and realized that it too was from yahoo).

I don’t have any more “details”. But if Hudson had to be lead to another room away from DOB by a team official. Then I’ll assume that it was pretty heated. Nobody is gonna pull somebody away from a casual conversation. Just speculating.

I just think the fact (admittingly NOT knowing the facts or any real details – I’ll assume that DOB ain’t gonna give any details out), Hudson “went after” him is silly.

Hard to pass judgement on ANYBODY in all of this, without knowing the behind the scenes crap. But I would think that Hudson would have better things to do with his time.

Perhaps we’ll be lucky and Hudson will call into Buck and Kincade tomorrow and explain himself. I doubt it though.

David O'Brien

February 20th, 2009
12:40 am

NEW BLOG is up. Click on the top link on the RECENT POSTS to the right side of the column of this page, the “Griffey’s gone…” link.

Hudson Ferry

February 20th, 2009
12:41 am

Moron, You would know much about “tasting a scoop.”

N8

February 20th, 2009
12:41 am

“Oromus, Grammer is your friend. Hudson Ferry

I do believe that “Grammer” is actually spelled… grammar.

Sorry. Couldn’t resist.

DiamondbackMac

February 20th, 2009
12:42 am

Hudson Ferry Spelling is your friend. Do yourself a huge favor and avoid any room with a “SAT Testing in Progress” sign on the door. We must learn to spell “grammar.”

David O'Brien

February 20th, 2009
12:43 am

I honestly hope that a lot of the Braves stop talking to DOB as much when it comes to things like this.– Oromus

Why in the world would you want that, if you come to this blog? I mean, so you’re saying you want less information about your team, if at all possible? Makes sense.

Andrew

February 20th, 2009
12:43 am

DOB just wanted to be in the limelight for a minute..im sure every reporter has done what he’s done..its no big deal..he’ll move on and get the next one

N8

February 20th, 2009
12:43 am

“Oromus, Grammer is your friend. Hudson Ferry

Uh… I do belive that “Grammer” is actually spelled…Grammar

Sorry. Couldn’t resist.

N8

February 20th, 2009
12:44 am

Sorry for the double post. Didn’t think the first one went through, so I typed it again. I guess I thought the irony was too funny to let go.

DiamondbackMac

February 20th, 2009
12:46 am

Andrew You are welcome here. But, I didn’t want you to feel that I didn’t realize that you aren’t new to the blog.

uga-brave

February 20th, 2009
12:49 am

uga got a special treat tonight at CHOPS.

sitting at the bar tonight after work, walter and michael the two best bartenters in the atl., told me that vince dooley had a 7 p.m. reservation.

sitting there they reconizied, vince coming in and put a martini next to me. so vince sat there next to me.

met dooley and sonny seiler many times. never been starstruck before.

so it is me and vince. BRAVEHEART wake up.

i told him i am a ‘90 grad and the two toughest beats that i encountered were the 1985 drive by david shula in 1985 on labor day when bama beat us.

and of course, old dawgs ring in was the defeat by tommy hodson, when ben smith our stud safety made mim bite his tounge in half. it was a late hit.

the dawgs came back down the field at the end of the game, but at the twenty the pass went off the facemask of rodney hampton.

intercepted by nacho abergamno of LSU.

coach dooley remember’s it like yesterday.

coach dooley also said remember when we shut down lawyer tiilman when auburn turned the fire hoses on us.

and he said dont forget we beat mich. st. in my last game when we tried to shut down andre rison.

great twenty minutes.

nolie

February 20th, 2009
12:49 am

I wonder if Huddy is pissed at AAron for calling Grif and telling him to sign with Seattle, and if so if he’ll have the balls to call him out on it next time Hanks strolls through the clubhouse?

Steve from OH

February 20th, 2009
12:50 am

Oromus, you’re just jackin’ me, right? C’mon, if every single goddam player did a Griffey and had their feelings hurt every time a reporter says a deal is “close” or “nearly done,” there would be about 5000 free agents.

Or how about this guy (http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/sports/2008754917_griffey18.html) from Seattle that says: “The Braves were said to have finalized details of the contract throughout the afternoon and were to meet in the evening with Griffey and his agent.”

DOB never said a deal was final. TERRENCE MOORE’S source is the one spewing the info. The headline writers (whom DOB does not control) wrote those headlines.

Why don’t you go over to the Seattle guys blog and crucify him? Or Terrence Moore’s? Jackass.

All of you DOB bashers are fools. If wittle Ken’s feelings were hurt that bad by DOB’s stuff, then let him whine his way back to Seattle. Oh, not to mention how the Seattle guys were saying the same thing DOB was. How you gonna rationalize that, you buncha pea-brained sadsacks?

BA

February 20th, 2009
1:02 am

That Talking Chop article was a bunch of speculative hooey. Sounded like some bitter dude that DOB kicked off of here. Please. As if “Talking Chop” isn’t sitting around like the rest of us waiting for this guy to break stories. Thanks for the tip anyway, N8.

Even if (and I just don’t buy it) Griffey’s decision was based on the article, Hudson’s got to have enough self control not to yell at a reporter in the clubhouse.

It just seems to me that Griffey needed a little leverage with Seattle, so he solicited Atlanta. But who knows WHAT has really happened (aside from the all-knowing literary authority at Talking Chop)?

And shouldn’t Griffey and Hudson be pizzed at the “close friend” of Griffey’s that leaked the whole thing in the first place? Does Huddy expect ANY reporter to just sit on something for the sake of the Braves?

The whole thing is just strange. If it’s any solace, DOB, it makes for some compelling reading!

BA

February 20th, 2009
1:03 am

How exactly do you use “grammer”?

Danny

February 20th, 2009
2:15 am

Even if Griffey didn’t change his mind because of the AJC story, the story may have tipped off the M’s that Jr. was leaning to the Braves. And then the M’s sweetened their offer. You cannot deny that is possible DOB.

Carson

February 20th, 2009
2:29 am

Chipper didn’t POST A LEADING STORY on our City’s paper. That is the difference. He simply said he thought Griffey was leaning towards the Braves, which he very well could’ve been. He even said he would smile until he signed. So don’t mention Chipper again dumbasses. Good for Hudson.

Wayne in Utah

February 20th, 2009
2:31 am

N8

The one thing that you are most certainly correct about is that the OF situation can go a 100 different ways. We all love to speculate on what we think will happen (one of the main reasons a blog like this exists), but in the end, it all comes down to who wants it the most.

If not enough of the kids comes through, then I would expect to see a trade for Swisher or Nady, or maybe signing one of the remaining FA outfielders. (Anderson, Edmonds, or Gonzalez)

Does anybody have any info on the prospects for those 3 FA outfielders? In other words, is Edmonds holding out for a 3-4 million dollar deal, or nothing? Only speculating, haven’t heard anything.

uga

Mark me down for a Frenchy breakout year. Damn what a shot in the arm that would be….

Campillo/Carlyle

Even if another team is desparate, I don’t think either of those guys would entice someone very much. Most likely, if we need to move a starter, it will be Reyes or Morton; as much as I would hate to see that happen.

What I will be interested to see is what the Braves will do if Hanson has the sort of spring we all think he will have. Who do you sit? Kawakami??? Trading Vazquez too early in the season, I believe would be a monumental mistake. I think that dude is going to thrive in ATL.

Just think about it. He, from all indications, is a sensitive guy, maybe not having a lot of confidence in himself (making some guesses that may not be correct here). Going from that band box in Chitown, to the pitchers park in Atlanta, and from the azz-hole manager Ozzie to a guy that is probably the easiest guy to play for in Bobby, it could end up being a career year for him.

I half way expect him to do better than Lowe. Jurrjens and Kawakami are the wild cards. We probably know what to expect from Tommy G if he is healthy.

I have rambled enough…..

braves70

February 20th, 2009
2:35 am

I hate that Frank Wren has become the laughing stock of GMS. He has been used twice now to get better deals for players who probably never intended to play for the Braves. If there is any fault here I place it on Wren. We have a dark future with him at the helm. Future free-agents: To get the deal you want from the team that you want to play for just tease Frank Wren with your interest and he will fall all over you like a puppy dog. The team you want to play for will then give you what you want.

Wayne in Utah

February 20th, 2009
2:39 am

Danny and Carson

Are you guys a couple of dumazzes or what? Have you ever heard of a player and his agent playing one side against the other to get a better contract. Junior did pretty well in the end, getting a LOT more from the M’s than the Braves were offering. We were played again.

Also, Carson, if you had truly read Dave’s first blog on the Chipper encounter, he said that Chipper wouldn’t smile until it was a done deal, then Chipper smiled at him (paraphrasing).

Griffey had everybody going. Chipper certainly didn’t post a story, and DOB also didn’t say definitively that Griffey was signed. He also didn’t write the title on the story. Some dumazz at AJC took that liberty.

I wish some of you children would quit acting like you know something, cause for my money, you don’t know $hit!

Wayne in Utah

February 20th, 2009
2:48 am

What is this obsession that Junior is some sort of saint or something??

I love the way some fans are so gullable. I have heard other stories over the years about him being a prima donna w/ the Mariners.

Also, with all this steroid/A-Rod crap going around, a lot of folks to me are sticking their heads in the sand about their favorite players. I have no knowledge whatsoever about who may or may not be juicing, but I just trust my instincts sometimes. If names like Chipper or Griffey or Pujols were associated with the list of 103, I personally would not be surprised. I am not saying I suspect any of those guys, just that we really dont know who was juicing.

Also, if the list did appear, that wouldn’t necessarily clear other names, as the Balco folks proved that they were developing designer steroids that couldn’t be detected.

So let’s not think that “Angel” Griffey would not be above playing the Braves for more money. (if I had to bet on it, I would say he is above the steroids thing…)

Where the heck is the Tylenol??

Wayne in Utah

February 20th, 2009
2:53 am

braves 70

Good points, but at what point do you become suspicious of everybody that says they are interested in your team. I am not sure what you do if you are FW???

Do you just tell everybody that you will offer them X dollars tonight, if they sign right now, or else go pound sand? Not sure how good that will work out.

It is frustrating though…..

Wayne in Utah

February 20th, 2009
2:54 am

you know your talking to yourself, if you have 4 posts in a row on the blog……..

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Coach (Skip and Pete will be missed)

February 20th, 2009
3:13 am

Tim Hudson and David O’Brien had an argument. So what, it happens.

Griffy did us a favor, now the kids get a chance to play. Schafer, Anderson, Jones and Blanco are not complaining about junior ending up in Seattle.

I knew right from the beginning of the off season that Frank Wren had an impossible task. He tried his best and didn’t always succeed. Peavy, Burnett and Tazawa were plan A. We ended up with plan B in Lowe, Vasquez and Kawakami. Hey, it’s better than nothing, right?

I would venture to say that on paper, this 2009 team already looks at least ten games better than they were in 2008. Barring some major injuries, this team should finish with a winning record. However, that means little because the rest of the division is gonna be even tougher than it was last year.

Bobby Cox and I do agree on one point. Those Marlins have the best starting pitching staff in the division. Maybe this revelation comes as news to most, but not to those who have been paying attention. Ricky Nolasco, Josh Johnson, Anibal Sanchez, Chris Volstad and Andrew Miller represent the youngest and most talented starting five outside of Tampa Bay.

Bobby Cox has his work cut out. Finally, the man himself will be on the hot seat. This team should win but only a great job of managing will allow for them to actually be in the playoff picture come August and September. If they lose and the injury bug isn’t to blame, Cox is gone. No way will the Atlanta Braves fan faithful put up with four straight seasons of non-playoff baseball.

One early clue to the fate of this team will be the inclusion of Josh Anderson and Jordan Schafer. I really believe these two youngsters represent the addition of youth, talent, speed and defense that has been sorely missing in recent years.

Glavine will help too. He matches up well with most fifth starters and gives the team much needed depth and experience. And O’Brien, too much information can at times work against the best intentions.

Wayne in Utah

February 20th, 2009
3:24 am

Coach

What I love about baseball is the fact that almost every season (unless you are the Pirates or Royals), you know if things go the right way, your team has a shot. Granted, some teams are more well stocked than others, but you are right about guys like Schafer and Anderson, though I am not too sold on Anderson yet. Hopefully he can learn how to cut down on the whiffs and figure out lefties a bit better.

He might end up sharing some time w/ Diaz if Schafer shines early on.

There are lots of wild cards in the deck for us this year. I like our chances if we don’t get killed by the injury bug.

Are the rest of you folks having a hard time getting this darned blog to load your comments the first time???? It is frustrating the heck out of me. I have resorted to copying all my posts before submitting them as it takes 2-3 times to get one to post.

Getting late here. All insomniacs must eventually sleep…

TBAATIL

February 20th, 2009
5:10 am

Are you dead yet? Need a gun? What was your quote? “Shoot me if he doesn’t sign”?

Mark Windsor

February 20th, 2009
5:59 am

By the way DOB you need to stop the Hudson bashing he is a fine person as well as player..fact is you guys did do shabby reporting..big deal its not first time..We need more players like Tim Hudson..I have looked all over for the blog by him but I dont see perhaps I am missing something here…are we really talking about the real tim hudson…

Sam 95

February 20th, 2009
7:13 am

I heard about a possible trade with the O’s for Luke Scott. I’m not sure what the O’s would want in return though.

TBraveFan

February 20th, 2009
8:08 am

Tim Hudson is my hero! I love a man who calls it like he sees it! Accountability is the name of the game!

Prime Time

February 20th, 2009
8:12 am

I missed this Hudson issue, can someone catch me up

Frankie Knuckles

February 20th, 2009
8:19 am

Prime Time, basically Huddy blamed DOB ( or the AJC ) for losing out on Griffey. Insert waambulance joke here….. But i would have given a weeks pay to see that confrontation. I mean, I’d be a little nervous if a pro athlete was getting in my kitchen, apparently Hudson had to be restrained ( or at least ushered into another room). What would the betting odds on a DOB / Hudson cage match be?

UncleBoogie

February 20th, 2009
8:30 am

Never before has so much print been wasted on a platoon player. Fact is Braves outfield looks awful and no matter the pitching improvement for 09, run prodcution looks way down.

Fred

February 20th, 2009
8:45 am

While I agree with you Dave that the Braves are better off without Griffey, there is still an undeniable trend developing which we should all be fearful of – the apparent gulability of Mr. Wren. While he is suppose to be an experienced professional in his field it is disconcerting the number of times he has been played this off-season. If the Braves are to again be a contender their management will need to be taken seriously by players and agents. I don’t think this off-season has moved the Braves forward in this regard. Instead I see the Braves becoming the favorite pry bar of the players. Mr. Wren – wise up, or toughen up (not sure which is required) before you become an embarrassment to the city.

Prime Time

February 20th, 2009
8:47 am

The attempts to get Furcal and Griffey failed and the fact that they were publicly screwed up (regardless of who’s fault), seems like the the players are getting upset that we can’t get any offensive help.
Does this make it more important to either sign Anderson or make a trade? I don’t think seeing what the young guys can do will help win the division or wild card (Seen what last years outfield did). There are question marks at every outfield position.
Can Diaz and Jones improve in the platoon LF, who plays center, and can Frenchy bounce back?

Arthur

February 20th, 2009
8:57 am

Lets look back. We think Drew will sign with Atlanta because his home is in Ga. We think Griffey will sign because he is near family. Same with Smoltz. Furcal was going to sign because he liked Mr. Cox. It is all about money and you writers know this better than we rank amateurs!!!!!

Arthur in Ruckersville

getnathan

February 20th, 2009
9:04 am

Coach –

If the Marlins had a veteran starter, their rotation would be even more effective than I think it already will be. I completely agree, best starting staff in the division. I hope Braves will be able to assemble that type of staff (with Lowe) in the next couple of years (starting with Hanson)

Mac in Tennessee

February 20th, 2009
9:12 am

I don’t get it. What’s the big deal. First, if the only reason Griffey decided not to come to the Braves is because of a newspaper article, well…….that’s pretty pathetic and shallow. So, I would hope there is more behind his decision than that simply because I’d be embarrassed for Griffey if that were the deciding factor. Second, who really cares…and, no, this is not sour grapes. I said when it was first reported that the Braves were talking to Griffey that if we were lucky he would not come. I have nothing against Griffey, but let’s face it. He has not had a really good season since leaving Seattle the first time. He has spent more time injured and/or on the disabled list than he has playing. He isn’t the young phenom he once was (which is natural —it’s called aging). And, we would have been paying him big bucks to platoon with Matt Diaz. Sorry, folks, but sometimes the best deal you make is the one you missed out on.

Tomahawk210

February 20th, 2009
9:29 am

Griffey not signing with us is a bleesing in disguise. A 40-year old with constant leg problems is not the answer. Besides one man does not make a difference on a baseball team, a certainly not a 40 year old one. I’ve been reading a lot about how Schafer is looking really good so far in camp and we will be reading and hearing his name a lot in the coming days. He is our answer in CF, dude’s can hit and already is the best defensive OF in Braves orginization. Schafer in CF, Anderson/Diaz in LF, and a new and improved Francoeur in RF. Oh yeah I heard Schafer has even a better arm than Francoeur. Can’t wait to see this kid play come opening day. No more BS talk of he needs AB’s in the minors, he won’t be facing minor league pitchers in the show. He needs(and the Braves need)him to start facing ML pitching. He’s 22 he’s ready now! No more babying these major league players. I remember when 18-19 year old kids were starting and learning in the majors.

Voice of Reason

February 20th, 2009
9:37 am

Well… back to square 17…

Wayne in Utah

February 20th, 2009
9:38 am

Mark Windsor

“DOB you need to stop the Hudson bashing”

Mark, I know Dave has not bashed Hudson. I would be shocked if any of the reputable bloggers have bashed Hudson.

I think everyone here (except for the children who will always find something to rant about) understands that Huddy was probably frustrated, and will have forgotten about this incident in short fashion.

Not to worry man.

shelby dawkins

February 20th, 2009
9:39 am

I’m a Fl Braves fan who loves the Braves and hates the Marlins. I saw this the other day on CNN and thought it was just a little bit funny:

It’s a little long so you may have to paste the URl into your browser

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/0902/mlb.alex.rodriguez.headlines/content.1.html

cvbraves

February 20th, 2009
9:42 am

Can’t get to the top link of “Recent Posts”. No Recent Posts there.

Bob Horner

February 20th, 2009
9:59 am

I’m now rooting for Ken Griffey Junior to pop a hammy in Spring training. Run home to Seattle and suck in the American League, you has-been!

We should have never tried to pursue his ever-injured, brittle bat in the first place. Seattle can have that .240 average & long, labored swings.

I’d rather see a young guy out there anyways. GO BRAVES!

#5

Ed in Bama

February 20th, 2009
10:18 am

This is not DOB’s fault. He’s under the same pressure all writers are under. Get the scoop first, pressure from almost everyone on this blog daily, he cares about the Braves, the fans, trusts certain players. He knows how desperate most legit Braves fans have been, especially this off season and I’m sure if he thought this was going to happen he would have kept it under wraps. Ken Griffey would’ve helped our team offensively, but I remember early in his career, reports that he would’nt sign kids autographs unless there were cameras around, also he has refused more than once to participate in homerun derby and the all-star game. Good riddance JR. Go Braves and thanks DOB

THE BEAR Illegitimi non carborundum

February 20th, 2009
11:57 am

WAYNE,

It appears you are hitting on the real deal about Griffey’s intent and that was to play one team against the other. Let’s face it, that happens all the time. As a matter of fact all of us do it anytime we put something on EBay or any other bidding site. What we are hoping for are two or more bidders for if we only get one we are in trouble.

If I have a car to sell and run an ad for XXXX price (or best offer) I am sure hoping I am going to get more than one offer.

The problem here is that baseball contract negotiations are (in many cases) out in the open and there are hundreds of fans watching every move. And when the final decision comes down the losing fans get upset. What separates the good fans from the bad ones are at times rather dramatic. I will say I never dreamed we would see so many nutcases come out of the woodwork and vent their spleens over a has been star who is fading fast. One thing I noticed is that the most vicious were those whose monickers were some we had never seen on this blog before. Maybe they are regulars who are ashamed to show their real faces. If that is the case they should have known that what they were writing, yelling for DOB’s head (literally), was beyond the pale of decency. Idiots like that leave me perplexed.

The other factor is the availability of a blog such as this. Nowhere else in the country (to my knowledge) is there a blog that is as popular as this one. And, that is solely because of the effort David puts into this thing. He is on this site around the clock or so it seems from the timing of many of his posts. It is time we appreciate him for his efforts and get over Griffey. Griffey played this for all it is worth and he made it work. Until he contacted Atlanta he was stuck with one bid for $1 million dollar. He exploited that into the possibility of making $4.5 mil and a job with the team after his playing days are over. I’d say Griffey played this violin perfectly. And there is no way in hell Frank Wren could determine that he was simply being used as a ploy. No way.

Finally it is obvious Tim Hudson was out of line and I hope he is man enough to apologize to David O’Brien for what he said or did, whatever it was.

NASCAR Dave

February 20th, 2009
12:00 pm

Of course it’s not DOB’s fault… It’s Fran Wren (aka Fake Spin)’s fault… The guy needs to shut his big mouth and quit blabbing so much… He runs his mouth so much, it’s tipping off other teams to what he is trying to do. That is NOT how you do the GM job. Hold your cards close to your chest, and when the deal is FINALIZED, THEN you can blab about it all you want, Frank. Just ask Scheurholz, he was a master at it. Never heard about the trades until they were done. Scheurholxz needs to make Wren a training DVD to let him know how to properly do his job, that is, of course, if they don’t fire his incompetent a$$ first…

NUFF SAID.

Mystical Mo

February 20th, 2009
1:06 pm

i feel like Frank Wren is Professor Snape, Bud Selig is Voldemort, and DOB is malfoy. too little to have an actual impact, but annoying nonetheless.

cjones4mvp

February 20th, 2009
1:48 pm

i think the whole hudson thing boils down to him just being frustrated. Has there ever been a worse offseason in MLB for a single club than the one we’ve had this year?? I’m not knocking any of the signings or anything like that. im mainly talking about all of the underhanded/backstabbing events that have transpired with peavy, furcal, griffey, smoltz (i dont blame him at all). That being said, i think huddy just lashed out because this offseason has finally reached a boiling point for him and DOB just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. I find it highly unlikely that griffey chose seattle b/c of a damn newspaper report. I think he wanted to go there and finish his career and probably just used us for some leverage and the fact that mays and aaron told him to go back to seattle didnt help matters..

CurtisD

February 20th, 2009
2:58 pm

O’Brien, your such a joke. Do us all a favor and stop writing. Your wrong all the time and your opinions are unwanted.

John Quest #2

February 20th, 2009
4:49 pm

Dorothy Davis

February 21st, 2009
11:18 am

This reporter should be more responsible than to publish an outcome on hearsay. I don’t blame Hudson for getting upset. I for one, would not believe anything O’Brien reports ever again.As for Griffey going to the Mariners, hey, whats so bad about losing a player who’s that “long in the tooth”? The Braves need to start using their “home grown” talent.

Ron

February 21st, 2009
5:15 pm

The thing that bothers me about the Griffey thing is that HE came to US….he begged the Braves……..not the other way aroound. The Braves had no interest in him until HE contacted the Braves….so you can be mad at DOB all you like but put the blame where it belongs….Griffey himself…who needs hime…..he’s a flake.

Ron

February 21st, 2009
5:16 pm

pardon my spelling on my post.I’m not as dumb as I type,thanks

Parker

February 22nd, 2009
8:56 pm

Stop making excuses. You are very unprofessional and should be without a job. You job is to report information based on reliable sources. You published a rumor….dissapointing and sad.

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