11:57 am February 19, 2009, by David O'Brien
dogsbrekky (aka the loser who got the Griffey story effed up)
February 19th, 20096:48 pm
President of Matt Diaz Club – CHIPPER JONES stated that Peavy DID NOT want to play for the Braves, I cannot think of a better source…
Bub, KC strikes me as more the RC Cola and moonpie kind of cat
DOB was the reporter that Hudson was yelling at ?
February 19th, 20096:49 pm
BravesFanInRockies: The Twins did benefit from speed on the bases, but they won due to an unsustainable batting average on balls in play (not going to look it up right now, but it was off the charts). That is mostly luck, not by design. Back to the braves: They could win with a lineup that such as
But only if Francouer, Kotchman, and Diaz all bounce back from bad years. I’d say Kotchamn is a good bet, as is Diaz. Francouer is a mystery – he could still be a star, or he may flame out completely. If the Braves have the money and two decent prospects that the Yankees want (none of their top starting pitchers or outfielders), I’d say trade for Swisher. Not Nady. Not Nady. Not Nady. Nady is only marginally more valuable than Diaz. And none of the Nats OFs are available (well, I’m sure Kearns is, but he was one of the few OFs last year that could compete with Francouer on the scale of suckage). If they can’t get Swisher (i.e., if the Yanks ask for too much or if the Braves can’t or won’t take on the salary), they might as well go with the best two out of J. Anderson / Blanco / B. Jones / and Schafer and hope for the best.
February 19th, 20096:51 pm
**FIRE FRANK WREN!!!**
**FIRE FAKE SPIN!!!**
**FIRE FRANK WREN!!!**
**FIRE FAKE SPIN!!!**
I had to be coxlover. That’s why I think DOB is really butt hurt besides everyone torching him today.
February 19th, 20096:52 pm
The thought of Tim Hudson picking a fight makes me chuckle. What is he, 100 lbs? A person wouldn’t know whether to punch him or pick their teeth with him.
Haha, he’s still my favorite pitcher though.
And Glavine’s back……great
I don’t know who is more INCOMPETENT… Frank Wren (I mean “Fake Spin”) or Thrashers GM DONNIE FRAUDELL… FIRE both these bums!!! They are out of their leagues!!!
February 19th, 20096:54 pm
Is Glavine really back though???
Didn’t we hear this about FURCAL, BURNETTE, PEAVEY, GRIFFEY, etc.
This list goes on and on…
FIRE FRANK WREN (I mean Fake Spin)!!!
February 19th, 20096:55 pm
You really “wrenned’ it? That is lame! If you wanted to be creative you should have said something like, “man, you really ‘Franked’ that up!!! But ‘wrenned’ it? Geeee.
Oh, and ‘Fake Spin’ is even more idiotic.
February 19th, 20096:56 pm
It’s funny how “FAKE SPIN” FRANK WREN alweays tells us that we are going to get such and such player…
For future reference, when FRANK WREn (or “Fake Spin”) says we are going to get a player, it actually means we ARE NOT getting that player.
This guy is dumber than dirt…
DIAZ in Left Field??? What a friggin joke!!! LOL
Cellar Dwellers again this year!!!
18 Wheels of Love
Anders, here you go! DOB’s got that phantom hook!
February 19th, 20096:57 pm
No players here who conjure up thoughts of a THUNDER JUG please!!!!NADY for $$$$ and one top ten prospect.
President of the Matt Diaz Fan Club
Nascar Dave – patience! Wren will be gone if we fail to make the postseason. If we make it, Wren is GM of the year after this mess.
Lucky Hudson wasn’t dipped in BBQ sauce. DOB may have mistaken him for a sizeable portion of ribs and eaten him………..
Herbert Hoover Redux
Dave, Tell Glavine to put tht UAW shop steward hat on and get up to Motown. Maybe he can help with the GM negotiations. It might be hard for our scrawny little Tommy to relate to guys not making $200,000 a start, but what the Hell.
Tommy still needs more doesn’t he? The bleeding of the mets and Braves last two years was not enough?? Hey, Tommy has enough boosters in this Blog maybe he can get another gig.
I’m going to guarantee–let’s see how I do with this one Dave as compared to first recession predictions–by June the last thing on most sane!!! people’s minds will be the NL East Division race. It will be $1.00 Family Night in Detroit, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Kansas City, Arlington and maybe a couple of others. Braves will have some deals as well. I know!! I know!! ‘Let’s go get Swisher and Edmonds.”
February 19th, 20096:58 pm
February 19th, 20096:59 pm
Scratch that about Glavine press conference. Deal is to be finalized tomorrow, but no press conference, since he’s not reporting until at least late next week.
NASCAR Dave, “Fake Spin” is that move your wife does to get things over with…
(dang, this blog is making me grumpy…)
Cox – the problem is Griffey saw the headline as well!
February 19th, 20097:00 pm
O’Brien says Glavine deal will be finalized tomorrow. I guess that means Glavine will be going back to the Mets in a couple days.
Ron in mobile
February 19th, 20097:01 pm
“Isnt it the way of the mongrels, to knaw at the tails of the champions”
DOB i will continue to read the blog twice a day. Forgive the idiots…bet most of them are bama fans anyway.
February 19th, 20097:02 pm
David, You still think covering these pompous A##ed Prima Donnas is a worthwhile use of your time?? imagine having to take crap from a physique challenged Timmy Hudson?? Tell Timmy to be careful so he doesn’t end up on Dr. Andrews’ table again!
David David David. Timmy Hudson, man that must hurt.
February 19th, 20097:03 pm
I just cut out the front part of yesterday’s sports section that read ” Griffey will play for Braves”. I’m gonna hang it up on my wall just as a reminder of what a joke the AJC is.
Uh… DOB… think you could run that Unapprove do-hickey on my last comment? That was worse than I meant to be.
February 19th, 20097:04 pm
In all seriousness. Why are we signing Glavine for any amount of money? Based on risk assessment: I would’ve rather given money to A. Jones. He’s younger and could have platooned in left. Someone tell me please what Glavine brings to our team besides the nostalgic crap?
February 19th, 20097:05 pm
Chop Chop, as part of the “Festivus in July” celebration, Smoltz can wrestle homeboy to the ground, and they can replace the cow with an aluminum pole. I find tinsel distracting.
DOB, i’ll take you against a 170 pound walking DL anytime. Any time. Any Place.
February 19th, 20097:06 pm
Jesus, you people need to get over it!!! I mean crap, DOB doesnt have to report anything anymore, is that what you want? Maybe you would be happy sitting here making stupid assanine comments to yourself. All the regulars know who I am talking about, all the losers who sit here and criticize DOB for doing his job and reporting the news. BFD that Jr. didnt sign with us!..What if he got hurt and missed the first 3 months of the season, how much bitching would we be hearing then??? Cheese and rice people, get the hell over it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
President, I’m not excited AT ALL about bringing Glavine back. I’d much rather have Griffey to be honest. Chances are at Glavine’s age he’ll be injured by May and probably won’t play the rest of the year.
Original Jon, maybe you should tell Tim Hudson to get over it. It sounds like he’s mad just like a lot of us fans.
February 19th, 20097:07 pm
best way the braves can be assured of getting someone is a trade.
David "Hit Man" O'brien
Tim Hudson?? Tim Hudson?? I’d put my Welsh Corgi up against Tim Hudson. I will guarantee that Timmy never used supplements! Never!
We have this saying around the office, you really "wrenned" it
February 19th, 20097:08 pm
it’s a quote from the office, but instead it was you really “shcruted” it.
I have to say that (assuming the report is true) I am very disappointed in Huddy. Sure, Griffey may not have liked the story, but does Huddy (or anyone) really think that influenced him to switch course and go back to Seattle. Please.
Will Huddy let his disagreement with DOB prompt him to demand a trade or to retire and walk away from the money owed to him. I doubt it.
Come on, Huddy, you should be ashamed of yourself!
February 19th, 20097:10 pm
Original Jon – yes, that is what I want. Dude, quite being such a drama queen. Grow up. DOB gets paid to write on this blog. I get satisfaction. Deal with it.
Most of you people are a bunch of whining, sniveling little b*tches who know nothing about baseball and should go back to their pokeman blogs and talk about how lame pikachu’s tail is.
I agree with Jon. Why would DOB take crap from this Blog and then, for the good of the organization, have to back down from a guy who resembles the advance party for a famine. We got your back bud.
NewsFlash, this is from mlbtraderumors :
Sources have indicated that Griffey’s tide turned shortly after he became upset with the fact that The Atlanta-Journal Constitution was reporting that he’d already decided to play for the Braves.
Tim Hudson is a lot closer to the situation than us fans are and if he thinks that Griffey changed his mind about coming to Atlanta because of the article then he is probably right.
February 19th, 20097:12 pm
DOB, give us more about the Huddy ‘misunderstanding’. I am losing a lot of respect for his intelligence if he really feels you had ANY bearing whatsoever on the Jr Griffey decision. I mean come on, it had nothing to do with Hank Aaron, Willy Mays, the extra $$$, or the option to be the DH. That is pure ignorance on his part.
But now that I think about it, it’s prolly not in your best interest to come on here and explain that story. I would imagine that it could only make things worse.
Whatever the case, what a putz Hudson really must be.
February 19th, 20097:13 pm
I think the bigger drama queens around here are you jerk offs that take crap out on a person that is just doing his job, actually, going above his job duties on this blog. He doesnt have to be on here everyday keeping us up to date on stuff. oh, and ‘wrenned’ it, not as much as you jock dwight schrutes ass.
Nobody! gets paid enough to have to take crap from a sphincter like Tim hudson. What the Hell is going on?
Well, “wrenned”, I don’t know if you’ve dropped in on any other baseball writer beat blogs, but lemme tell you, DOB spends about a zillion more hours on here putting up with our juvenile crap than any of the other writers do. Sure, being here is part of his job, but my guess is, he spends a lot more time tending to the animals off the clock than any of us imagine.
February 19th, 20097:14 pm
Do NOT let any of this sway you – or make you gun shy in reporting reputable sources and giving your opinion on news or insights that you receive!
I enjoy and look forward to your insights and inside thoughts (and your opinions) that is what makes your job / position unique.
We all want the info!! Even though sometimes it turns out to be bad.
You are a good journalist and reporter – just doing your job! You’re not making up stories – just reporting them! Do NOT let any one or any remarks cause you to change!
These cry babies want to blame you, and rag you out. The real problem is they do not want to admit how deep down hurt they are because things did not work out the way we wanted them to. So, it is easier to reflect the hurt into anger at you – simply because you did what you were supposed to do – report your findings, give your insight, share your opinion (God knows everyone else does on this blog – why not you!)
Keep doing what you’re doing – that is why we all check in and read!
I mean, you people are so bad that Charlie Morton had to leave the blog because of your bashing antics. Grow up.
I don’t think Hudson’s problem, if he had one, was over Griffey. I think it was about suggestions that certain guys currently on the team should be dropped from the 40-man. He’s protecting his teammates, as the team currently stands.
February 19th, 20097:15 pm
I respect DOB but I will forever blame him for Griffey not coming to Atlanta. Sources close to Griffey say the article in the AJC played a factor so I’m not sure why nobody believes those sources.
For me it’s a lot less disappointing to miss out on a player than to find out that a player you previously liked a lot (Tim Hudson) has decided to adopt the attitude of a bratty troll venting on the internet. How a serious grownass man could believe that a newspaper headline could have influenced a player (or if it did, how that player could have acted reasonably) is completely beyond me. And if players are that grumpy, is our clubhouse psyche really that fragile? An aging player that we wanted to be in a platoon with Matt Diaz decided he wanted to go somewhere and cement some sort of legacy. I would hope our players can keep their heads and act like ballplayers, not internet whiners.
February 19th, 20097:17 pm
Coxlover, that’s a damn funny post at 7:15. I wonder if anyone will actually get it.
Of all the guys on the team, I wouldn’t think Hudson would do that. I could see Chipper saying something to O’Brien or another reporter. But I like Hudson’s temper and his nature, and this team needs some more guys like that. Even though I don’t think DOB did anything intentional, I can see someone getting caught up in the heat of the moment and vent a little. To whoever commented on Huddy’s size, how dumb are you? Believe me, size doesn’t matter that much.
Coxlover – yes the ajc.com story which was worth $0 to JR swayed the decision versus the extra $2 Millsky he could earn up in Seattle
Sir Stealth, do you think that it’s just a coincidence that Griffey changed his mind about coming to Atlanta shortly after the article on the AJC came out ?
February 19th, 20097:18 pm
So Francouer has one of the worst seasons in MLB history and he gets a $3.5 MILLION DOLLAR RAISE??? And you wonder why pro sports salaries have no bearing in reality.
Do well…get paid.
Dogsbrekky, i dont think griffey cares too much about the money. If he did why would he have left Seattle 9 years ago to go play in Cincinnati for less money ?
What's Fair Is fair
Right!! Don’t let it influence him that he gets verbally punked on the Blog he spends so much time on. Don’t let it influence him that he has to look away as a 170 lb marshmellow berates him. Don’t let it influence him that he has to be the fallguy because a decrepit, deteriorating, has been changes his mind.
DOB, Don’t let it influence you!! Tell them to Blank It. Write for a paper that would come out swinging in your defense.
February 19th, 20097:19 pm
Coxlover, after reading your earlier posts, it seems like you might not have actually intended to be ironic. Please tell me I’m wrong.
February 19th, 20097:20 pm
Chop Chop, for record, I am NOT a Pepsi man. CokeCola all the way. I hope that clears his up as I would hate for any rumors to make their way around the internet. But if such a rumor does make its way around, I will angrily confront David O’Brien!!
February 19th, 20097:21 pm
Sir Stealth, those guys live in a different world. It’s part of the bitter pill I’ve had to swallow to keep watching my favorite game. Their perspective on stuff like this doesn’t have to be very fine tuned, because they are millionaire athletes and who gives a crap if they step on a regular person’s toes. Not making that judgement on Huddy cuz I don’t even know the story, but it wouldn’t surprise me to find out he irresponsibly popped off. They just do that sh*t from time to time.
February 19th, 20097:22 pm
Honestly, too much attention is being given to the Griffey non signing. The tragic event of the last 48 hours is Wren giving into Francoeur instead of letting him lose his arb case. Inexcusable, unless they think Francoeur would become upset at being ripped apart during the process, which would be pathetic. I do hope he proves me wrong and is actually worth more than 3.375m this season
Mae East and West
February 19th, 20097:24 pm
Tn Brian, Is that allegation true!!
February 19th, 20097:26 pm
Sir Stealth, good point. I guess none of the sources can be trusted.
February 19th, 20097:28 pm
Tim Hudson should do his job, which is make sure he’s rehabbing and working out and leave the rest. After all, Braves are counting on him to PITCH and PITCH well when he returns in August. That’s all he better be worried about. Anything else, he comes out looking like a jacka&&
I’m glad Tom Glavine deal is going to get “officially done” tomorrow. Some good news to help us move past the player that I will not mention anymore in my posts (I wish others would do the same).
He should solidify our rotation, which is now solid (but not great), and should provide some veteran leadership (much needed after the John Smoltz departure) in the starting rotation. Let’s hope at some point Tommy Hansen learns all he can about being a successful major league starter from Tom Glavine (the future HOF-er)
DOB, I enjoyed your interview on 680thefan with Matt and Chuck and I’m glad they had your back as well. You couldn’t have explained it any better (what went down) and I applaud you for going on the record (on the radio) and standing your ground.
Lastly, I hope Wren stands down for a while now and let’s see how things develop during Spring Training. Like Coach said, we have some young speedsters on the team, maybe that’s one way they can go (if Jordan and Josh prove like they can handle it).
February 19th, 20097:29 pm
Supes, yep . Signing a 43 year old pitcher who was 2-4, with an ERA well over 5 is VERY good news.
February 19th, 20097:30 pm
DOB’s original comment about Hudson suggested that the issue was over possible roster moves, not over the Jr situation. Let the Griffey issue go, people!
Of course, that post by DOB seems to be gone now. I feel like I’m blogging in the USSR, circa 1978 (and we all know how hard it was to blog behind the Iron Curtain, before the Internet was created)
Right on, Supes
February 19th, 20097:32 pm
Glavine will report on around March 1. Not sure how much of his salary and bonus will count against payroll, but Braves should have at least a few mill to spend after he signs.
And if they don’t get an outfielder now, they’ll be able to have, in effect, twice the money to spend around the All-Star break, when teams are unloading players as they fall out of contention. Because $3 mill now would get a $6 million (annual salary) player in July, if you follow my drift. Or $2 mill would get a $4 mill player, etc. Like I said, not sure exactly what Braves have to spend, but it’s about that much after Glavine signs $1 mill deal that includes a $1 mill bonus for making the roster and two $1.25 million bonuses, one for being on roster 30 days and one for being on it 60.
Most or all of the bonus money will be deferred.
February 19th, 20097:34 pm
Thanks for posting the Bowman dispatch. Taking that with the CBS Sports story from Greg Doyel, who said Junior wanted to go where he’d be worshiped rather than simply cheered, clears up a lot of this.
We’ll always wonder who the source is “who regards himself as one of the outfielder’s closest friends.” Unless it’s Terence Moore.
Steve from OH
I can’t read any posts before 6:00…someone fill me in, please!
February 19th, 20097:35 pm
Thanks for the info, DOB.
I guess that means the payroll won’t increase in 2009. uga-brave had it right.
Thanks for the Glavine updates, DOB. Looks like some budget room to sign a bat if needed.
Do we hope they need a bat at that time? Guess we hope they’re in contention so that the question’s relevant.
February 19th, 20097:37 pm
KC, again, if Griffey wanted to go somewhere that he would be worshipped instead of cheered for WHY would he bring the Braves into all of this mess ? It could have saved the Braves a lot of time.
February 19th, 20097:38 pm
Can anyone tell me what the average age of all the braves free-agent signings are?
“There aren’t many times an organization is willing to step out and throw those kind of things out there [post-playing career role in organization, etc.]. He probably felt it was something he couldn’t pass up.”
Step up and at least sign the last remaining tie we have to our WS Championship
February 19th, 20097:40 pm
Guess the answer is too scary to even think about
Never underestimate the Svengali-like powers of agents to sway the minds of athletes. They have Alex Rodriguez believing he was a 23-year-old steroid abuser when he was in fact a 28-year-old steroid abuser.
February 19th, 20097:42 pm
Coxlover, yeah… I think Griffey felt the Braves made all the sense in the world (and they did)… but he got cold feet at last minute and went with his heart. Some other people helped to talk him into that decision as well. It’s said that his agent REALLY wanted him in Seattle. And ESPN reports that Willie Mays and Hank Aaron helped him make that decision.
Perhaps Hudson needs to angrily confront Hank Aaron? =)
Won’t matter in July anyway with the bum outfield we have now..we will be out of contention and we will be the ones dumping players.
February 19th, 20097:43 pm
“Glavine will report on around March 1. Not sure how much of his salary and bonus will count against payroll, but Braves should have at least a few mill to spend after he signs.”
You’re sure now? I mean, we’re not gonna read about Glavine signing somewhere else right? This came from a good source, right?
Enter your comments here
February 19th, 20097:44 pm
DOB, can you explain exactly how deferred money works? Is it as simple as counting those figures against future payrolls or is it paid with interest, etc?
February 19th, 20097:45 pm
Coxlover, and President of the Matt Diaz Fan Club: You guys need to get out of the house more often if you really believe that story had anything to do with Griffey changing his mind. Seriously.
And Diaz is far too cool and amiable a guy to have you as prez of his fan club.
Everyone says it’s not a big deal that we didn’t get Griffey. Do people realize we have the worst outfield in baseball and ANYTHING is an improvement over what we have now ?
Thanks for the reporting DOB. Trust me we appreciate the work.
February 19th, 20097:46 pm
Robert I bet you got quite the chuckle out of that one you clever dog you.
February 19th, 20097:47 pm
Sorry if I’m overreacting here. — Coxlover
No, you? Overreacting?
February 19th, 20097:49 pm
DOB, I understand you want to believe the article had nothing to do with him changing his mind obviously because you wrote the article. If I had written the article I’d probably try to convince myself the same thing.
I see. Interesting.
February 19th, 20097:50 pm
Coxlover…You have been making the same arguments/posts since lunchtime. Give it a rest please.
Hey look at the bright side brave fans, you sign a 43 year old pitcher who “Wants” to play for you.
February 19th, 20097:51 pm
Danga, it’s becoming overkill by now I guess hasn’t it ? I guess I just need to get a life LOL. But you can understand where I’m coming from, since Griffey is my favorite player.
The OF is so bad, but a part-time 39-year-old would be good enough to fix it? What did you do, pick up the last copy of “Baseball For Dummies”?
Confess, you’re really robdawg in disguise, right?
Danga – you’ve been reading this since lunch time. Give your eyes a break for goodness sake!
February 19th, 20097:54 pm
ncscoots, keep in mind that Griffey hit 30 hr’s 2 years ago so I would say he would definitely be an improvement over the outfield we have now
February 19th, 20097:55 pm
Griffey leaving from a pure numbers standpoint hurts. He would have helped, and a good fit to platoon.
Where it REALLY hurts is psychologically and emotionally. Griffey is a bona fide superstar draw. He brings national media attention. He is arguably the best player of this generation. Having him penciled into this lineup behind Chipper would have been reason to go out to the ballpark.
Let’s face it — Smoltz’s departure took a lot of star luster off this team, and an lineup peppeed with Kotchman, Diaz, Blanco, Frenchy, and KJ doesn’t exactly inspire confidence or entertainment.
Reality is that while improved, barring injury to many Phillies or Mets, this team as configured is looking at 3rd place in this division.
We simply don’t have the offense to compete with NY or Philly.
This is the same lineup that struggled woefully during long stretches last year to produce runs (and don’t post overall numbers b/c most our runs came in one game outbursts), and that was with Tex, Chipper at his peak, and a lot of Kotsay.
This lineup is worse, plain and simple (look at Chippers average before and after Tex left).
We have to have another bat. We don’t have the plate discpline, speed, or manager to play smallball, and we don’t have the power to score otherwise.
We are looking at a lot of 2 and 3 run games offensively, and that won’t cut it.
So, here’s to hoping we grab somebody to play left. Somebody to drive in runs. We need it.
February 19th, 20097:56 pm
Good news about Glavine- pitching really looks deep.
I don’t think he’s gonna be blocking Hansen- somebody is bound to get hurt at some point during the season. Also, won’t be sold on Kawakami until I see him pitch.
I like Franceour and think he’s gonna rebound, but how is he making more money than Kelly Johnson? I don’t get it. Did he come up earlier- I can’t remember at the moment?
Now that the teams are pretty much set, it seems it’ll be a race between the Mets and Phillies for the division. If the braves had more power out of the the outfield and 1st base I’d throw the braves in there too. If the Mets have learned anything in the last two years it’s that they’ll have to match the Phillies intensity in Sept to win the division……Stay tuned.
February 19th, 20097:58 pm
Charles, I agree. We absolutely need another bat, preferably someone fairly young. Right now we’re relying very heavily on a 37 year old injury prone player ( Chipper) and we’re hoping and praying that a miracle happens and Frenchy has a HUGE rebound this year.
February 19th, 20097:59 pm
DOB with Glavine not reporting until March 1st would that put him behind the other pitchers in terms of being ready to pitch coming out of ST? I realize that he would not be needed until April 19th, that is a long time to go without throwing in a live game. Any possibility that he is sent to the minors (or extended spring training) to get a couple more starts in before his first appearance?
February 19th, 20098:01 pm
Coxlover, son, I don’t know what the record was for Total Number Of Inane Posts By An Unbelievably Obtuse Blogger In A Single Day, but you broke it today with the ease of an Olympic swimmer.
Folks, call me when this all is over and some semblance of sanity returns.
February 19th, 20098:03 pm
What about Julio Franco in left; platooning of course with Diaz my boy.
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