Bville, considering Griffey could add 20-25 homers to a team, and considering our outfield was the worst in the NL last year, I would say that not getting him was a pretty big deal.
In my view wren and the boys have had a lot of non moves that actually look better to me that we didn’t make then if he had made them.
Honestly the braves needed 3 things this off-season. 1 a pitching staff 2 a cleanup hitter. And 3 reconstruct the outfield!
Seems like we needed our club to rebuild the entire team from the ground up!
The braves had 2 things to work with… 1 a budget a bit higher then expected and 2 a farm club that had a lot of talent.
Somehow wren has rebuilt our starting pitching (with some depth in case of the DL) and added a couple of parts who he thinks will fill some spots in the pen after losing ohman. he has also created a future for the rotation while at the same time leaving it open enough to change day by day and year by yr
the club has somehow avoided selling off the entire farm and every prospect they have for a rental player or two. That to me is a huge deal!
if you really look at the deals that didn’t happen like furcal who would fix or replace a player in a position that wasn’t broken. In my view it would have been a waste of money.
A.J. who would have been a sure ace, may have been worth the Yankees money but sure as hell was not worth the braves money. We should all say thank you to the Yankees for outbidding us on a.j.! if we landed him we would far less money to spend this year and would have never even been able to talk to griffy.
John smolts? Well he’s just a baby. And once again too much money for the braves but not for the sox. There comes a time to put feelings aside and part ways when the time is right.
its not the same club john… and you’re not the same john, john!
Peavey? Like I said before… we didn’t mortgage the farm system and made our staff much better then it was a year ago.
And Griff? We All Need To Remember That He Honestly Would Never Be The Manny Type Hitter We Really Want On Our Team. (Not that we want manny in left or in the clubhouse)
Sure we don’t have a power hitting outfielder right now… but hey look at the rays… they didn’t have a DH and won the ALCS!
We all need to look at the fact that the team is much better then it was at the start of the off-season… and wren still has a lot of recourses to work with (Money And Young Talent In The Farm And On The Bench) during the season… hey you never know
Sometimes The Best Moves In The Off-season Are The Ones That Were Not Made. Going Into ‘09 with a much improved pitching staff and lots of resources is far better then going into the season with all the wrong moves!
Fact Is I Like The ‘09 Braves Better Then The ‘08 Club. And I Think They Will Win More Games Without A Doubt!
flange1, thanks for the link. Good article. Francouer’s quote has to be one of the best I’ve ever read from a ballplayer:
“The way I look at it, A) I’m not going to suck and B) We have pitchers who will throw 200 innings,” Francoeur says.
I like that simple “I’m not going to suck” statement. Cuts through all the bs and just says that he plans to be good. Don’t know if it’ll work out, but I like the attitude.
Wren needs to get SOMEBODY…ANYBODY for LF! You don’t go into the season with Brandon Jones and Diaz and hope it’ll turn into majic. I’m sorry, but even Edmonds,L.Gonzo,G.Anderson is something. The best guy right now would be Nady, and Wren might just have to trade Hernandez and maybe Reyes to get him. At this point, it’s almost worth the a– reaming he’ll get for doing it. You know he;s gone after ‘09, but he will be a presence this year that will definitely improve the Bravos record.
dogsbrekky (aka the loser who got the Griffey story effed up)
February 19th, 2009 3:37 pm
TN Jeff – which part of this deal did Wren stuff up.. Junior approached us, agreed to join, told 3 separate people he was joining and THEN DECIDED with the help of his scumbag agent (sound familiar) to take another $2M plus from the cold wet hell hole in the NW…
Wren did zero wrong and tried to get us a good deal….. so we lost out, cut the losses and we head on
Next trade please !
Luke Scott might be available and is very cheap, the kids coming up look very good, Jim Edmonds can still hit righties…..
flange – thanks for the Rosenthal link. Good to see him show some self-aimed humor there at the end. Pretty even-handed appraisal, overall. What’s the amp of choice these days?
Some interesting ‘ifs’ for the Braves this year. We’ll see how they all turn out. If some breaks that were missing in recent years fall their way, we may see a much improved record. On the other hand… Still, it will be interesting. Really looking forward to watching Jurrjens continue to develop.
BTW – I hope we can have some of the players blog like earlier in the week (before we got hijacked with the “Junior Biz”). That stuff was excellent and really funny (Diaz and the Aussies).
Just ask right fielder Jeff Francoeur. “The way I look at it, A) I’m not going to suck and B) We have pitchers who will throw 200 innings,” Francoeur says.
2Parc – I think the trouble is that he does in fact get it…
The Braves are going to rock this year. Solid pitching, consistency throughout the lineup. We might start slow, but I bet we are in it to the very end…How’s that for optimism?
how could we possibly go into the season with an outfield of JF, josh anderson and diaz/b.jones AFTER spending all this money on pitching? that would be idiotic.
this isnt rocket science. go find a lefty bat for LF!
Nick from PA: you’re forgetting Brandon Jones. He’s got a shot at a job, too.
And if Schafer’s on the roster, I’d guess he’d be in CF and Anderson would be a fourth-outfielder type, with Diaz not in a straight platoon. But so many ways it could go, if they don’t go get another OF. Schafer’s an outstanding defensive center fielder.
Look at all you whiners. So mad and pissed off about this. Blaming Griffey, blaming the media, etc etc. Many of you now saying he’s “washed up” when you were so excited just days ago.
Just a week ago the Brave’s weren’t even a consideration! I think Griffey just saw that maybe there was another option and wanted to take a look. People have been saying ALL winter that Griffey will probably go to Seattle. Sure, the Braves had a chance, but in perspective they were lucky it even got as far as it did. The contract was small on both ends and he’s already filthy rich. Plus, Seattle and the Braves both lost over 90+ games last year, so winning just isn’t an option for him. It was more than that. More than the money.
Griffey would have been a good addition to either team, otherwise the Braves would have pulled out and said no thanks.
Some of his great friends are from Seattle, his wife is from Seattle, it just makes sense for him to be happy. His 13 year old daughter helped him decide, saying something along the lines of “Dad, go to Seattle. I don’t want you to have an regrets about this.” (This was mentioned in one of the many articles I have read on this in the past few hours)
And in the end, it’s the right decision for the game of baseball. 50 years from now, no one is going to remember this Braves signing issue, but everyone will remember that Griffey was a class act for going back to Seattle to finish his Hall of Fame career where at all started. He started out a kid, ended an adult, and will have done something that most great players only wished they could have done, and that is to go back to the team and relive the feeling one more time. It’s not just for him. It’s for the fans, for BASEBALL. He’ll go to the Hall as a Mariner wearing #24 and he’ll be looked upon as one of the greats. And he’ll have ended it the right way, unlike Jordan, Farve, and many others in history.
Although you would have made a great Brave, I say good for you Griffey.
The 1 person who should be upset is Chipper Jones! He was used by Griffey to bring the Braves in this so he could get more $ from Seattle.And if Frenchy is worth 3.3 mil/yr How much is Chipper worth per year. Watch the Braves low ball Jones.This is getting hard to watch.
are brandon jones or josh anderson any good at all? ive never really heard of them. what kind of numbers did they put up in the minors. i quit watching the team in july last season so if they plaed late i never saw them
“Just ask right fielder Jeff Francoeur. “The way I look at it, A) I’m not going to suck and B) We have pitchers who will throw 200 innings,” Francoeur says.”
DOB- What the %$#!? Just Kidding! Personally I believe this is best for the Braves, I would have liked to have another guy with bad legs on the team, but there has to be better out there. Maybe not for the $2 million, but what the hell, maybe some of the kids will over-achieve like Frenchy did for a couple of years.
Honestly, the best option for the Braves would have been for them to have gone after Abreu and not sign Glavine. As Keith Law said, Glavine is the Braves 5th or 6th best option for the number five spot in the rotation. Instead we are going to overpay for Glavine and he will end up being the Braves version of the Mariners signing Griffey, a marketing ploy!
I find it interesting that since the “incident” that DOB has been less personable on the ole blog. I guess I can understand why he isn’t answering many questions though, I mean if I were in his shoes and had to read through all the garbage spilled at me, I wouldn’t want to be around much either.
DOB keep up with the good information, and don’t let the idiots on here ruin your blog for the rest of us that enjoy coming here and reading.
Now that Grief is gone/done, how’s Soriano’s infection? Have you seen him throw? I hope he recovers completely, from that infection, and more importantly from his injury.
i was a reporter on a little paper for about a year. what amazed me was how much people lied, and i mean shamelessly, to us. i was amazed at how much of my job depended on my on-the-spot judgments about y’s relationship to x. I was also amazed at the sheer number of times people tangentially related to something or someone would have to fight the urge to sit next to me and just blather on and on about their tiny corner of a larger picture.
Folks, I’m here to tell you DOB has a hard and thankless job. We, for better or worse, think all printed in the paper or TV is gospel. And even if you’re doing your level flat-out best, it ain’t. The hard truth is people lie / overstate / recall incorrectly all the time. Dave, you did the best you could. A man on the train this morning said a good point: In sports, stuff is broken early all the time. Griffey, if he didn’t come here because of an early story, is a pedantic child and not a professional in the slightest.
One more thing, if you hate the AJC that much, there are other papers on the internet. Might I suggest the BBC, Reuters, or the New York Times.
OutsideRobber if you don’t like the blog than your more than welcome to go read the mets,phils or anyone elses blog. If you spent much time reading this blog you wouldn’t find many sheep( except maybe ewe!)
So could we have a little more of what we can expect from Schaefer with what he is realistically and what his ceiling ‘could’ be? Is he like a Grady Sizemore type player or more like a Jim Edmonds when he was good type or am I not even on the radar?
I think the Braves pitching will be a little better this year but I still think the offense will be worse. I mean we had Teixeira a good part of last year and now we have replaced him with Kotchman. So I think the loss of Teixeira and the addition of Lowe and Vazquez could even out.
tim-braves lifer, you must like the taste of mutton and kissing that ass? So it would seem along with most all the other sheep posting in this thread. Not all, mind you.
Ah, I see now that the $25,000 incentive in Frency’s contract is for 685 plate appearances.
I’m surprised he didn’t hold it up without an MVP clause.
While everyone’s piling on David, I bet Frenchy never would have had a bad year last year if DOB hadn’t reported Chipper’s “Lose an Andruw, gain an Andruw” comment. Frenchy was trying to prove Chipper wrong all season. Way to go DOB. You keep underestimating your power.
Think of how many musicians’ careers you’ve helped destroy too. Poor Whitesnake. Poor Bon Jovi. They could have made it somewhere if not for your opinions. Next thing you know, I’ll turn on the TV, and Coldplay won’t be cool anymore.
And third, for most of JS’s tenure, there wasn’t a huge internet reporting/blogging community. Maybe a few rumors would be printed in the fine print of the sports pages, and of course in his last couple of years, blogging was growing, but not to the extent it’s grown to today. Now you’ve got an entire industry built around it. It’s like the paparazzi in Hollywood. MBAT
very good point.The tremendous growth of this aspect over the last 3-4 seasons has changed the working conditions forever. Specialty sites like MLBRumore do nothing but search the entire web for anything that they might post. We don’t even know that Frank spoke about it in this case. Grif called Chipper and others, told his friends etc. The original stories( not jus Daves) were all over the web and likely came from one of those adjacent sources. I see no fault at all that should be thrown at Frank’s feet.
Hey DOB – Would the Braves ever consider a 6-man rotation with Lowe, Vasquez, Kawakami, JJJ, Glavine and Hanson. Since Hanson and Glavine would probably need extra time due to the amount of innings required in a ML season and Kawakami is used to pitching in a 6-man rotation. What’s your opinion.
hey man, weird name. also, keep in mind that the braves scored runs at a better rate after tex left than when he was there. so one could argue that the offense will be better over all if its more like it was during the 2nd half last year.
the braves could have won last year with some pitching. terrible outfield and all. thats why its so great that the rotation is sooo much better, while the lineup remains roughly the same. the addition of one big bat would make a huge difference, but with some promising young players hopefully realizing their potential…(kotchman, francouer, johnson, escobar, mccann are all talented guys who have yet to totally put it together) we could be pretty dang good.
But Coxlover, Tex has been a traditionally slow starter. So what if Kotchman starts out well and is consistent. I think that may prove to be the better of the deals. Like I said earlier, I expect this years lineup to be more consistent.
well not the news i wanted to see when i got off work…. i agree on giving the young players a shot but i think adding a vet in the mix is a must, Edmonds or Anderson, they both can hit between 15-20 homers , Anderson would hit for better average, but edmonds would play alot better D. if were not gonna make any moves , there should be no excuse to not have Chipper a extension very very soon. Jeff signed and that takes care of all the front office stuff except Chipper. Looks like Chipper is gonna hit 4th and Johnson in the 3rd slot to start the year unless Jeff returns to form.
If the Braves don’t get another bat, even if it’s a platoon type guy with Diaz then they may not have enough to contend with the Mets and Phillies.
It’s going to be a tight race to begin with.
This entire episode is a non-story generated by the ajc sports staff. What a waste of space. Everyone on your staff associated with this should be ashamed of themselves for keeping up this constant flow of BS that’s based on nothing. What a joke.
Ok Serious stuff now. I will be in Orlando with my son on saturday the 28th while the Braves play in Dunedin. Would it be worth our while to stop by the Dark Star complex that morning.
ease19 (3:56 pm): Shhhhhhh — you never know when SomeOne might change Their Mind.
JK.
Nah — I saw Matt his own self pop in earlier, and since I had taken his name in vain this morning (in response to his circa midnight comment), I wanted to make sure he didn’t miss it in all the blog shuffling we’ve experienced today.
I mentioned something about the Aaron thing last night. Hank called Junior up and was trying to get him to come to the Braves. During the conversation, Hank apparently talked to him a little about legacy (even though Hank didn’t finish his career with the Braves, he did go back to Milwaukee and play in front of the fans that saw him break in). Willie Mays is the guy that Harold Reynolds, that former Mariner great, solicited to help convince Junior to go back to Seattle. Willie was basically giving Junior a sales pitch.
I gotta admit that I would kinda like to see a bunch of people start hating Hank Aaron because Griffey didn’t come here. That would be a nice **** cherry on top of the **** comments that have been appearing on this blog the last few days
I see no fault at all that should be thrown at Frank’s feet.nolie
I don’t see how this should be thrown at anyone’s feet. Has anyone here actually talked face-to-face with Griffey, Wren, et al? If not, then all of you Wren/DOB bashers out there, (respectfully) shut the hell up, because you don’t know what you’re talking about. Griffey made a personal choice. His and his alone. It’s on him. Why should it be his fault that he made HIS choice? Why DOB’s fault? Why Wren’s?
I wasn’t all that excited about Junior coming to the Braves. I think they can get someone less prone to injuries. I watched him twinge a hamstrung once here in Milwaukee on a routine play. I’d prefer to see a younger player have a chance rather than bring someone who might only serve to eat some salary better used elsewhere. On that note, DOB, I wouldn’t fret about your reporting. These things happen…apparently quite a bit this year.
For those (like me, often) who don’t go to the Braves main page, DOB has a pretty good ‘daily report’ on the site, here. Glad to read that Kawakami is starting to throw ‘in anger’ and that Hanson seems to be feeling fine after the terrible broken nail incident.
Random is in good company. Other Wurlitzer winners include Chipper, Hank Aaron, Bobby Dews and DOB (the only Multiple Winner), as well as Tennesse Paul, Gil In Mechanicsville, The Infamous SI Scribe, McFann and several other distinguished Denizens. DOB gets several for putting up with us on days like today (I would have told most of y’all to go perform obscene acts upon yourselves with strange objects). No one else needs more than one-it’s an exclusive group, as is.
teixeira didn’t do anything the first 2 months and when he did get going he was gone, with nearly the entire staff injured last year, these additions will bring a big boast to the team, and the depth is there, face it doubters the days of spending and fleecing bottom market teams are over, it’s about pitching anyway and the braves have it, let the mets have the highest payroll and choke again,
Kotchman was not really with the team that final 57 or so games either, so maybe he would have “heated” or I should say acclimated sooner and we would have been par for the course…thats all I am saying…
Random…NP, I get it, I hate commenting in the middle of a blog change…
in 2004 the braves met the twins in cooperstown for the hall of fame game. The Braves starting catcher was none other then Mr Bobby Dews. Bobby was in what could loosley be called a crouch behind the plate and was taken out after the first couple of pitches.
it was very cool to hear his name over the P.A. as the starting catcher!
Talked To Him A Couple Years Later In Spring Training And He Got A Kick Out Of It and thought it was cool that I Got To See It…
DOB, have you gotten any sleep in the last 48 hours? Dude, you must be exhausted!
Same could be said for some of the drive-by serial posters we seemed to have picked up. Holy Cornelia, do some people REALLY think they have 20+ worthwhile posts to make in fewer than three hours? I’m just asking here.
BenHow long will it take to get this Wren on a bus back to Baltimore. I guess the Braves will fight it out with Washington for a last place finish.
What is it with people like you? Do you get up in the morning and just look for things to be upset and down about? How in the heck can you possibly believe that this team is worse than last years team? Seriously?
“Not to beat this out to death, but who was you’re source, or is it prohibited to reveal the source.”Tomas
You’re just jackin’ me, right? Let’s play a fun game, which we’ll call…DOB reveals his source. C’mon, it’ll be fun!
<strong.Tomas, other knuckleheads: DOB, who is your source? We demand answers!
DOB: Well, since you asked so nicely, it is (insert name here) of the Braves front office! Enjoy!
Tomas, others:: rabble, rabble rabble!
[Next Day] The Atlanta Braves would like to announce the firing of (insert name here) for “undisclosed” reasons.
[Two Weeks Later]Tomas, othersDOB, why no news? No player interviews? No guest bloggers? No 11 PM blogs? We must be entertained! Placate us!
DOBWell, shucks guys. No one will talk to me now because I have a terrible reputation for giving up my sources. Like Corky Miller for instance. Was gonna tell me a great story about how he obtained some very specific (and compromising) photos of a certain HOF manager. Now the guy won’t give me anything. Avoids me like his bat avoided baseballs. Oops, did I just say that!? Oh, dear. Guess you’ll just have to go to Bowman’s blog and annoy him. Seeya!
DOB,
I am sure you have heard it all by now but nothing you could do about yesterdays mess. But you said something about Chipper saying Hanson is a definite number 1. I would love to hear that story.
Griffey was not going to make or break this team. It really is curious that he came to the braves not the other way around. When a player seeks you out you have to figure that he wants to be here. That e went back to Seattle, we all knw it will be a long season for them, they might lose 100 or more games. Enjoy Jr… As for the kids the braves have, there is no reason to think that Brandon Jones or a Diaz/Anderson platoon would do this team any good. We will, it that is the case, have the worst outfield in baseball and all the money so unwisely spent on starting pitching will have been a waste. And I say unwisely because the braves NEVER needed 3 starters, we needed 2 and a Lfer. What we got was 3 pitchers and a horribly weak outfield.
Anyone who ever watched both of them play knows that Andy Marte was Spanish for Brad Komminsk. Both had holes a mile wide in their swings, and it never creased to amaze me how both were considered can’t miss prospects.
I find it hard to believe that the Braves will go into the season with both Anderson & either B. Jones or Blanco as regular starters against RH pitchers, Maybe Diaz will hit righties well enough to be a mostly full time starter in LF but that’s an awfully big maybe.
The trade options center around Nady/Swisher and maybe Scott from the Orioles, but has anyone taken a look at the Nationals’ roster. Unless they move Dunn to 1B if Johnson is hurt, they have Kearns, Elijah Dukes and MIB blog favorite Willie Harris as their 2nd string OF. Not to mention the immortal Willy Mo Pena and the once highly touted Corey Patterson.
A team with 5 No. 5 starters in their rotation and a suspect bullpen might consider trading one of their surplus OFs for any healthy and available arm.
If the Braves actually bring in one of remaining geezers to play LF, why wouldn’t Sammons be the most likely choice to be DFA’d. Not a huge market for AAA catchers. He’s more likely to clear waivers than any of the 68 pitchers on the 40-man roster.
Steve from OH, man when you’re right you’re right. I am not saying this sarcasticly, because after I read it, I thought to myself, Why the hell did I write that.
Must be tough writing a blog that is only read by perfect people who never make mistakes. Drop by my place of employment, and I’ll make a guarantee you’ll see me make some blunders on a regular basis. All that aside, I don’t even think you’ve made a mistake here. What was reported actually happened. If Junior bolted because of journalists who are fueled by fervent and passionate fans, then let him go. He shouldn’t be mad at someone reporting something he said. Grow up junior, and all those out there who are bashing DOB. Besides, we just got saved from adding another question mark to the lineup. In fact, every move we have ended up not making would have been done so with many questions. Peavy: would we really have been that much stronger if we had to give up so much to acquire him? Hampton: an irregular heartbeat already this Spring has proven how unreliable he is going to be. Burnett: can anyone truly believe he’ll stay healthy to earn those big dollars? Furcal: see Burnett. Junior: does he really have anything left, and is he worth millions as a part time player? And so my final question to us all, are we really worse than we could have been? We’ve strengthened our starting rotation and bullpen, for sure. Everyone take a deep breath. DOB, keep reporting what you know, and give all the opinions you want to give right here. I appreciate your efforts.
Any thoughts on the nationalization of the banking industry?? I bet I will still read people saying “The Braves have plenty of money.” Has ANYONE conjured up the idea that many smart people are thinking now may not be the time to spend it on people who play games. The smart people may be thinking that the leisure dollar may just take a hit.
Dave, you remember few months back when you had that guy who warned of this and he was driven away by people who declared “This is jst another business cycle.” Nope! Don’t Think So!!
If you see Scott Boras, tell him I think he is an a$$hole.
Nady would be a waste he make a little over 6 mil this year and he has only had one good year anyways. he’ll be a free agent after this season. Also he’s a Boris Client. i perfer Swisher, switch hitter and under contract for 3 years. plays all OF spots and 1B, he has 20-35 homer power. he gets on base a ton. i thkn the reason his average is so low 249. career is cause he has batted in a differnt spot every year, good example KellY Johnson came up as a middle of the order guy in the minors with good power. he comes to the majors we bat him 1st and 2nd. you try to do different things at the plate depending where u bat. So i think Swisher is a good choice. depending on what they want for him. if not him go with Anderson , above average defender, will hit around 290ish hit 10-15 homers in a platoon role. and i have heard he might have to take something like a 1 mil yr or less contract.
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Coxlover
February 19th, 2009
3:31 pm
Bville, considering Griffey could add 20-25 homers to a team, and considering our outfield was the worst in the NL last year, I would say that not getting him was a pretty big deal.
Eric In Albany N.Y.'s
February 19th, 2009
3:32 pm
In my view wren and the boys have had a lot of non moves that actually look better to me that we didn’t make then if he had made them.
Honestly the braves needed 3 things this off-season. 1 a pitching staff 2 a cleanup hitter. And 3 reconstruct the outfield!
Seems like we needed our club to rebuild the entire team from the ground up!
The braves had 2 things to work with… 1 a budget a bit higher then expected and 2 a farm club that had a lot of talent.
Somehow wren has rebuilt our starting pitching (with some depth in case of the DL) and added a couple of parts who he thinks will fill some spots in the pen after losing ohman. he has also created a future for the rotation while at the same time leaving it open enough to change day by day and year by yr
the club has somehow avoided selling off the entire farm and every prospect they have for a rental player or two. That to me is a huge deal!
if you really look at the deals that didn’t happen like furcal who would fix or replace a player in a position that wasn’t broken. In my view it would have been a waste of money.
A.J. who would have been a sure ace, may have been worth the Yankees money but sure as hell was not worth the braves money. We should all say thank you to the Yankees for outbidding us on a.j.! if we landed him we would far less money to spend this year and would have never even been able to talk to griffy.
John smolts? Well he’s just a baby. And once again too much money for the braves but not for the sox. There comes a time to put feelings aside and part ways when the time is right.
its not the same club john… and you’re not the same john, john!
Peavey? Like I said before… we didn’t mortgage the farm system and made our staff much better then it was a year ago.
And Griff? We All Need To Remember That He Honestly Would Never Be The Manny Type Hitter We Really Want On Our Team. (Not that we want manny in left or in the clubhouse)
Sure we don’t have a power hitting outfielder right now… but hey look at the rays… they didn’t have a DH and won the ALCS!
We all need to look at the fact that the team is much better then it was at the start of the off-season… and wren still has a lot of recourses to work with (Money And Young Talent In The Farm And On The Bench) during the season… hey you never know
Sometimes The Best Moves In The Off-season Are The Ones That Were Not Made. Going Into ‘09 with a much improved pitching staff and lots of resources is far better then going into the season with all the wrong moves!
Fact Is I Like The ‘09 Braves Better Then The ‘08 Club. And I Think They Will Win More Games Without A Doubt!
mbatl
February 19th, 2009
3:33 pm
flange1, thanks for the link. Good article. Francouer’s quote has to be one of the best I’ve ever read from a ballplayer:
“The way I look at it, A) I’m not going to suck and B) We have pitchers who will throw 200 innings,” Francoeur says.
I like that simple “I’m not going to suck” statement. Cuts through all the bs and just says that he plans to be good. Don’t know if it’ll work out, but I like the attitude.
2Parc
February 19th, 2009
3:33 pm
Coxlover… you’re like Eyore… ‘looks like rain…’
Dawg Fud
February 19th, 2009
3:34 pm
Give ‘em hell, DOB!
Keep up the hard work. I enjoy your reporting.
ncscoots
February 19th, 2009
3:35 pm
the best thing in the Rosenthal article? This line in a post by a commenter:
“Now if only Dayn Perry would admit that he is depriving a village somewhere of an idiot.”
I don’t know the identity of that poster, but that sucker belongs right here, right now, LOL.
David O'Brien
February 19th, 2009
3:36 pm
Andy Marte got designated for assignment and traded to the Rays.
So much for that “can’t miss” prospect.
TnBrian
February 19th, 2009
3:36 pm
Wren needs to get SOMEBODY…ANYBODY for LF! You don’t go into the season with Brandon Jones and Diaz and hope it’ll turn into majic. I’m sorry, but even Edmonds,L.Gonzo,G.Anderson is something. The best guy right now would be Nady, and Wren might just have to trade Hernandez and maybe Reyes to get him. At this point, it’s almost worth the a– reaming he’ll get for doing it. You know he;s gone after ‘09, but he will be a presence this year that will definitely improve the Bravos record.
dogsbrekky (aka the loser who got the Griffey story effed up)
February 19th, 2009
3:37 pm
TN Jeff – which part of this deal did Wren stuff up.. Junior approached us, agreed to join, told 3 separate people he was joining and THEN DECIDED with the help of his scumbag agent (sound familiar) to take another $2M plus from the cold wet hell hole in the NW…
Wren did zero wrong and tried to get us a good deal….. so we lost out, cut the losses and we head on
Next trade please !
Luke Scott might be available and is very cheap, the kids coming up look very good, Jim Edmonds can still hit righties…..
ease19
February 19th, 2009
3:38 pm
2Parc
“Coxlover…you’re like”…well he admitted he likes Cox…that should be enough said.
2Parc
February 19th, 2009
3:38 pm
Betemit, Marte…. I sure hope Hanson pans out.
rammerjammer
February 19th, 2009
3:39 pm
Andy Marte’ is the reason why no one in their right mind should assume Heyward, Schafer and Hernandez will be our outfield in 2010.
ease19
February 19th, 2009
3:40 pm
Friday, I am having veggie burgers and fries tonight.
PTBNL, thank you for your statements…you are one of the more reasonable and well spoken bloggers.
2Parc
February 19th, 2009
3:40 pm
ease19 – don’t think he gets it.
Coxlover
February 19th, 2009
3:41 pm
ease19, who doesn’t like Cox ? players love him and most fans do too.
2Parc
February 19th, 2009
3:41 pm
I think I’ve been reported.
glorydays
February 19th, 2009
3:43 pm
What recent evidence do we have that Frenchy is not going to suck?
Coxlover
February 19th, 2009
3:43 pm
Reported for what 2Parc ?
3trees
February 19th, 2009
3:43 pm
flange – thanks for the Rosenthal link. Good to see him show some self-aimed humor there at the end. Pretty even-handed appraisal, overall. What’s the amp of choice these days?
Some interesting ‘ifs’ for the Braves this year. We’ll see how they all turn out. If some breaks that were missing in recent years fall their way, we may see a much improved record. On the other hand… Still, it will be interesting. Really looking forward to watching Jurrjens continue to develop.
BTW – I hope we can have some of the players blog like earlier in the week (before we got hijacked with the “Junior Biz”). That stuff was excellent and really funny (Diaz and the Aussies).
Go Braves!
Nick from PA
February 19th, 2009
3:43 pm
DOB,
Assuming Josh Anderson will be in center, who has a better shot at a platoon role with Diaz: Schaffer or Blanco?
2Parc
February 19th, 2009
3:45 pm
‘Someone’ has reported my comments. Till later.
Braveheart
February 19th, 2009
3:47 pm
Just ask right fielder Jeff Francoeur. “The way I look at it, A) I’m not going to suck and B) We have pitchers who will throw 200 innings,” Francoeur says.
Attaboy!!! Luv it!
ease19
February 19th, 2009
3:47 pm
2Parc – I think the trouble is that he does in fact get it…
The Braves are going to rock this year. Solid pitching, consistency throughout the lineup. We might start slow, but I bet we are in it to the very end…How’s that for optimism?
jed
February 19th, 2009
3:48 pm
how could we possibly go into the season with an outfield of JF, josh anderson and diaz/b.jones AFTER spending all this money on pitching? that would be idiotic.
this isnt rocket science. go find a lefty bat for LF!
Coxlover
February 19th, 2009
3:48 pm
ease19, give me some of what you’re taking.
David O'Brien
February 19th, 2009
3:49 pm
Nick from PA: you’re forgetting Brandon Jones. He’s got a shot at a job, too.
And if Schafer’s on the roster, I’d guess he’d be in CF and Anderson would be a fourth-outfielder type, with Diaz not in a straight platoon. But so many ways it could go, if they don’t go get another OF. Schafer’s an outstanding defensive center fielder.
Ethan
February 19th, 2009
3:49 pm
Look at all you whiners. So mad and pissed off about this. Blaming Griffey, blaming the media, etc etc. Many of you now saying he’s “washed up” when you were so excited just days ago.
Just a week ago the Brave’s weren’t even a consideration! I think Griffey just saw that maybe there was another option and wanted to take a look. People have been saying ALL winter that Griffey will probably go to Seattle. Sure, the Braves had a chance, but in perspective they were lucky it even got as far as it did. The contract was small on both ends and he’s already filthy rich. Plus, Seattle and the Braves both lost over 90+ games last year, so winning just isn’t an option for him. It was more than that. More than the money.
Griffey would have been a good addition to either team, otherwise the Braves would have pulled out and said no thanks.
Some of his great friends are from Seattle, his wife is from Seattle, it just makes sense for him to be happy. His 13 year old daughter helped him decide, saying something along the lines of “Dad, go to Seattle. I don’t want you to have an regrets about this.” (This was mentioned in one of the many articles I have read on this in the past few hours)
And in the end, it’s the right decision for the game of baseball. 50 years from now, no one is going to remember this Braves signing issue, but everyone will remember that Griffey was a class act for going back to Seattle to finish his Hall of Fame career where at all started. He started out a kid, ended an adult, and will have done something that most great players only wished they could have done, and that is to go back to the team and relive the feeling one more time. It’s not just for him. It’s for the fans, for BASEBALL. He’ll go to the Hall as a Mariner wearing #24 and he’ll be looked upon as one of the greats. And he’ll have ended it the right way, unlike Jordan, Farve, and many others in history.
Although you would have made a great Brave, I say good for you Griffey.
Webhead
February 19th, 2009
3:50 pm
The 1 person who should be upset is Chipper Jones! He was used by Griffey to bring the Braves in this so he could get more $ from Seattle.And if Frenchy is worth 3.3 mil/yr How much is Chipper worth per year. Watch the Braves low ball Jones.This is getting hard to watch.
jtb
February 19th, 2009
3:50 pm
are brandon jones or josh anderson any good at all? ive never really heard of them. what kind of numbers did they put up in the minors. i quit watching the team in july last season so if they plaed late i never saw them
TuPac
February 19th, 2009
3:50 pm
“Just ask right fielder Jeff Francoeur. “The way I look at it, A) I’m not going to suck and B) We have pitchers who will throw 200 innings,” Francoeur says.”
That’s Ambitionz Az a Ridah right there.
ORbravesFAN
February 19th, 2009
3:51 pm
DOB- What the %$#!? Just Kidding! Personally I believe this is best for the Braves, I would have liked to have another guy with bad legs on the team, but there has to be better out there. Maybe not for the $2 million, but what the hell, maybe some of the kids will over-achieve like Frenchy did for a couple of years.
Honestly, the best option for the Braves would have been for them to have gone after Abreu and not sign Glavine. As Keith Law said, Glavine is the Braves 5th or 6th best option for the number five spot in the rotation. Instead we are going to overpay for Glavine and he will end up being the Braves version of the Mariners signing Griffey, a marketing ploy!
Buffalo NY Braves Fan
February 19th, 2009
3:51 pm
I find it interesting that since the “incident” that DOB has been less personable on the ole blog. I guess I can understand why he isn’t answering many questions though, I mean if I were in his shoes and had to read through all the garbage spilled at me, I wouldn’t want to be around much either.
DOB keep up with the good information, and don’t let the idiots on here ruin your blog for the rest of us that enjoy coming here and reading.
just listen
February 19th, 2009
3:51 pm
Nick from PA,
I would think that if Schafer is with the big league club then he would be in center.
ease19
February 19th, 2009
3:52 pm
Coxlover – Its called being a Braves Fan, and I take it every day.
just listen
February 19th, 2009
3:53 pm
sorry didn’t see DOB already responded
DCBrave
February 19th, 2009
3:53 pm
DOB-
Now that Grief is gone/done, how’s Soriano’s infection? Have you seen him throw? I hope he recovers completely, from that infection, and more importantly from his injury.
Doc Holiday
February 19th, 2009
3:54 pm
hello
ben
February 19th, 2009
3:55 pm
i was a reporter on a little paper for about a year. what amazed me was how much people lied, and i mean shamelessly, to us. i was amazed at how much of my job depended on my on-the-spot judgments about y’s relationship to x. I was also amazed at the sheer number of times people tangentially related to something or someone would have to fight the urge to sit next to me and just blather on and on about their tiny corner of a larger picture.
Folks, I’m here to tell you DOB has a hard and thankless job. We, for better or worse, think all printed in the paper or TV is gospel. And even if you’re doing your level flat-out best, it ain’t. The hard truth is people lie / overstate / recall incorrectly all the time. Dave, you did the best you could. A man on the train this morning said a good point: In sports, stuff is broken early all the time. Griffey, if he didn’t come here because of an early story, is a pedantic child and not a professional in the slightest.
One more thing, if you hate the AJC that much, there are other papers on the internet. Might I suggest the BBC, Reuters, or the New York Times.
MinnesotaJacket
February 19th, 2009
3:55 pm
DC Soriano through yesterday and looked good DOB commented on it yesterday
ease19
February 19th, 2009
3:56 pm
Random, are you trying to win another Wurlitzer from Lew?
Friday The 13th Remake Was Okay
February 19th, 2009
3:57 pm
DOB do they have those luther type burgers at the braves spring training, you know the ones with donuts for buns.
DCBrave
February 19th, 2009
3:58 pm
MinnesotaJacket-
Thanks. That’s good to hear.
Eric In Albany N.Y.'s
February 19th, 2009
3:59 pm
Fact… ‘09 will be better then ‘08!
No Hampton Tops The List Of Why!
KC
February 19th, 2009
4:00 pm
ESPN: “With help from Willie Mays, Hank Aaron and his daughter, Ken Griffey Jr. decided to return to Seattle.”
Hank Aaron???
Correct me if I’m wrong, but doesn’t Hank Aaron work for the friggin Braves????!!!!!
Ethan
February 19th, 2009
4:00 pm
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3918723
Perfect video to sum up the situation with Griffey. Watch it.
tim- braves lifer
February 19th, 2009
4:00 pm
OutsideRobber if you don’t like the blog than your more than welcome to go read the mets,phils or anyone elses blog. If you spent much time reading this blog you wouldn’t find many sheep( except maybe ewe!)
Coxlover
February 19th, 2009
4:03 pm
KC, So Hank Aaron helped Griffey decide to go to Seattle ? If that’s the case I’m not a Hank Aaron fan anymore.
bigchiefrg
February 19th, 2009
4:04 pm
So could we have a little more of what we can expect from Schaefer with what he is realistically and what his ceiling ‘could’ be? Is he like a Grady Sizemore type player or more like a Jim Edmonds when he was good type or am I not even on the radar?
Coxlover
February 19th, 2009
4:05 pm
I think the Braves pitching will be a little better this year but I still think the offense will be worse. I mean we had Teixeira a good part of last year and now we have replaced him with Kotchman. So I think the loss of Teixeira and the addition of Lowe and Vazquez could even out.
OutsideRobber
February 19th, 2009
4:07 pm
tim-braves lifer, you must like the taste of mutton and kissing that ass? So it would seem along with most all the other sheep posting in this thread. Not all, mind you.
You? Sheep.
toga party
February 19th, 2009
4:07 pm
Ah, I see now that the $25,000 incentive in Frency’s contract is for 685 plate appearances.
I’m surprised he didn’t hold it up without an MVP clause.
While everyone’s piling on David, I bet Frenchy never would have had a bad year last year if DOB hadn’t reported Chipper’s “Lose an Andruw, gain an Andruw” comment. Frenchy was trying to prove Chipper wrong all season. Way to go DOB. You keep underestimating your power.
Think of how many musicians’ careers you’ve helped destroy too. Poor Whitesnake. Poor Bon Jovi. They could have made it somewhere if not for your opinions. Next thing you know, I’ll turn on the TV, and Coldplay won’t be cool anymore.
BA
February 19th, 2009
4:07 pm
So no one foresaw the technical problems here? It’s not like the ajc. didn’t know that DOB gets a LOT of traffic. Only the last 100 comments?
Here’s an idea- if you’re going to change your format, put a little forethought into the amount of traffic you’ll need to accomodate.
ajc technical staff= a bunch of hayseeds.
nolie
February 19th, 2009
4:08 pm
And third, for most of JS’s tenure, there wasn’t a huge internet reporting/blogging community. Maybe a few rumors would be printed in the fine print of the sports pages, and of course in his last couple of years, blogging was growing, but not to the extent it’s grown to today. Now you’ve got an entire industry built around it. It’s like the paparazzi in Hollywood. MBAT
very good point.The tremendous growth of this aspect over the last 3-4 seasons has changed the working conditions forever. Specialty sites like MLBRumore do nothing but search the entire web for anything that they might post. We don’t even know that Frank spoke about it in this case. Grif called Chipper and others, told his friends etc. The original stories( not jus Daves) were all over the web and likely came from one of those adjacent sources. I see no fault at all that should be thrown at Frank’s feet.
lt200
February 19th, 2009
4:09 pm
Hey DOB – Would the Braves ever consider a 6-man rotation with Lowe, Vasquez, Kawakami, JJJ, Glavine and Hanson. Since Hanson and Glavine would probably need extra time due to the amount of innings required in a ML season and Kawakami is used to pitching in a 6-man rotation. What’s your opinion.
DAP
February 19th, 2009
4:10 pm
coxlover
hey man, weird name. also, keep in mind that the braves scored runs at a better rate after tex left than when he was there. so one could argue that the offense will be better over all if its more like it was during the 2nd half last year.
the braves could have won last year with some pitching. terrible outfield and all. thats why its so great that the rotation is sooo much better, while the lineup remains roughly the same. the addition of one big bat would make a huge difference, but with some promising young players hopefully realizing their potential…(kotchman, francouer, johnson, escobar, mccann are all talented guys who have yet to totally put it together) we could be pretty dang good.
ease19
February 19th, 2009
4:10 pm
But Coxlover, Tex has been a traditionally slow starter. So what if Kotchman starts out well and is consistent. I think that may prove to be the better of the deals. Like I said earlier, I expect this years lineup to be more consistent.
Ryan
February 19th, 2009
4:11 pm
well not the news i wanted to see when i got off work…. i agree on giving the young players a shot but i think adding a vet in the mix is a must, Edmonds or Anderson, they both can hit between 15-20 homers , Anderson would hit for better average, but edmonds would play alot better D. if were not gonna make any moves , there should be no excuse to not have Chipper a extension very very soon. Jeff signed and that takes care of all the front office stuff except Chipper. Looks like Chipper is gonna hit 4th and Johnson in the 3rd slot to start the year unless Jeff returns to form.
Prime Time
February 19th, 2009
4:11 pm
If the Braves don’t get another bat, even if it’s a platoon type guy with Diaz then they may not have enough to contend with the Mets and Phillies.
It’s going to be a tight race to begin with.
Jim
February 19th, 2009
4:11 pm
This entire episode is a non-story generated by the ajc sports staff. What a waste of space. Everyone on your staff associated with this should be ashamed of themselves for keeping up this constant flow of BS that’s based on nothing. What a joke.
car3boogie
February 19th, 2009
4:12 pm
Ok Serious stuff now. I will be in Orlando with my son on saturday the 28th while the Braves play in Dunedin. Would it be worth our while to stop by the Dark Star complex that morning.
Random
February 19th, 2009
4:13 pm
ease19 (3:56 pm): Shhhhhhh — you never know when SomeOne might change Their Mind.
JK.
Nah — I saw Matt his own self pop in earlier, and since I had taken his name in vain this morning (in response to his circa midnight comment), I wanted to make sure he didn’t miss it in all the blog shuffling we’ve experienced today.
Thanks for asking.
brian-orlando
February 19th, 2009
4:13 pm
people change their mind, big deal… let’s move on, Garret Anderson, anyone?
Chop Chop
February 19th, 2009
4:13 pm
KC,
I mentioned something about the Aaron thing last night. Hank called Junior up and was trying to get him to come to the Braves. During the conversation, Hank apparently talked to him a little about legacy (even though Hank didn’t finish his career with the Braves, he did go back to Milwaukee and play in front of the fans that saw him break in). Willie Mays is the guy that Harold Reynolds, that former Mariner great, solicited to help convince Junior to go back to Seattle. Willie was basically giving Junior a sales pitch.
I gotta admit that I would kinda like to see a bunch of people start hating Hank Aaron because Griffey didn’t come here. That would be a nice **** cherry on top of the **** comments that have been appearing on this blog the last few days
Steve from OH
February 19th, 2009
4:14 pm
I see no fault at all that should be thrown at Frank’s feet. nolie
I don’t see how this should be thrown at anyone’s feet. Has anyone here actually talked face-to-face with Griffey, Wren, et al? If not, then all of you Wren/DOB bashers out there, (respectfully) shut the hell up, because you don’t know what you’re talking about. Griffey made a personal choice. His and his alone. It’s on him. Why should it be his fault that he made HIS choice? Why DOB’s fault? Why Wren’s?
Scott
February 19th, 2009
4:15 pm
I wasn’t all that excited about Junior coming to the Braves. I think they can get someone less prone to injuries. I watched him twinge a hamstrung once here in Milwaukee on a routine play. I’d prefer to see a younger player have a chance rather than bring someone who might only serve to eat some salary better used elsewhere. On that note, DOB, I wouldn’t fret about your reporting. These things happen…apparently quite a bit this year.
Ben
February 19th, 2009
4:16 pm
How long will it take to get this Wren on a bus back to Baltimore. I guess the Braves will fight it out with Washington for a last place finish.
mbatl
February 19th, 2009
4:17 pm
For those (like me, often) who don’t go to the Braves main page, DOB has a pretty good ‘daily report’ on the site, here. Glad to read that Kawakami is starting to throw ‘in anger’ and that Hanson seems to be feeling fine after the terrible broken nail incident.
getnathan
February 19th, 2009
4:17 pm
How much would Nady be worth on the open market?
Lew
February 19th, 2009
4:19 pm
Random is in good company. Other Wurlitzer winners include Chipper, Hank Aaron, Bobby Dews and DOB (the only Multiple Winner), as well as Tennesse Paul, Gil In Mechanicsville, The Infamous SI Scribe, McFann and several other distinguished Denizens. DOB gets several for putting up with us on days like today (I would have told most of y’all to go perform obscene acts upon yourselves with strange objects). No one else needs more than one-it’s an exclusive group, as is.
flange1
February 19th, 2009
4:20 pm
3trees,
I have too much gear! But my normal rig at home is a 66 Princeton, a 57 Deluxe, a 59 Bassman and a 61 Pro.
I have a 20 wall HIWATT amp, a Dr Z and a Carr Rambler that I love as well.
Too many amps and not enough time.
Don’t even get me started on guitars……..
Coxlover
February 19th, 2009
4:20 pm
Getnathan, nady would be worth too much. I guess all I can see is that we have to be happy with what we got and hope a miracle happens.
nitram odarp
February 19th, 2009
4:21 pm
i would have to say that today DOB is Hanks biggest fan
BashBros.
February 19th, 2009
4:21 pm
Hey everyone, I was wondering how if it is possible to watch the braves spring training practices. If so, how, and are their workouts all day long?
Hooter Jones
February 19th, 2009
4:21 pm
Ethan – thanks for the linkage. Your right! This just gets better, better and better.
roman88
February 19th, 2009
4:23 pm
teixeira didn’t do anything the first 2 months and when he did get going he was gone, with nearly the entire staff injured last year, these additions will bring a big boast to the team, and the depth is there, face it doubters the days of spending and fleecing bottom market teams are over, it’s about pitching anyway and the braves have it, let the mets have the highest payroll and choke again,
AndyC
February 19th, 2009
4:25 pm
DOB, have you gotten any sleep in the last 48 hours? Dude, you must be exhausted!
getnathan
February 19th, 2009
4:26 pm
Coxlover – I’m talking about after this season. Would Braves consider signing Nady. Braves will have plenty of money available.
ease19
February 19th, 2009
4:27 pm
Kotchman was not really with the team that final 57 or so games either, so maybe he would have “heated” or I should say acclimated sooner and we would have been par for the course…thats all I am saying…
Random…NP, I get it, I hate commenting in the middle of a blog change…
Eric In Albany N.Y.'s
February 19th, 2009
4:29 pm
Great Little Story About Bobby Dews,
in 2004 the braves met the twins in cooperstown for the hall of fame game. The Braves starting catcher was none other then Mr Bobby Dews. Bobby was in what could loosley be called a crouch behind the plate and was taken out after the first couple of pitches.
it was very cool to hear his name over the P.A. as the starting catcher!
Talked To Him A Couple Years Later In Spring Training And He Got A Kick Out Of It and thought it was cool that I Got To See It…
DAP
February 19th, 2009
4:32 pm
hey guys email me if you want to get in on a DOB/MIB fantasy baseball league. there are several slots still available! daalper@yahoo.com
ncscoots
February 19th, 2009
4:32 pm
DOB, have you gotten any sleep in the last 48 hours? Dude, you must be exhausted!
Same could be said for some of the drive-by serial posters we seemed to have picked up. Holy Cornelia, do some people REALLY think they have 20+ worthwhile posts to make in fewer than three hours? I’m just asking here.
Original Jon
February 19th, 2009
4:33 pm
Ben How long will it take to get this Wren on a bus back to Baltimore. I guess the Braves will fight it out with Washington for a last place finish.
What is it with people like you? Do you get up in the morning and just look for things to be upset and down about? How in the heck can you possibly believe that this team is worse than last years team? Seriously?
Steve from OH
February 19th, 2009
4:34 pm
“Not to beat this out to death, but who was you’re source, or is it prohibited to reveal the source.” Tomas
You’re just jackin’ me, right? Let’s play a fun game, which we’ll call…DOB reveals his source. C’mon, it’ll be fun!
<strong.Tomas, other knuckleheads: DOB, who is your source? We demand answers!
DOB: Well, since you asked so nicely, it is (insert name here) of the Braves front office! Enjoy!
Tomas, others:: rabble, rabble rabble!
[Next Day] The Atlanta Braves would like to announce the firing of (insert name here) for “undisclosed” reasons.
[Two Weeks Later]Tomas, othersDOB, why no news? No player interviews? No guest bloggers? No 11 PM blogs? We must be entertained! Placate us!
DOBWell, shucks guys. No one will talk to me now because I have a terrible reputation for giving up my sources. Like Corky Miller for instance. Was gonna tell me a great story about how he obtained some very specific (and compromising) photos of a certain HOF manager. Now the guy won’t give me anything. Avoids me like his bat avoided baseballs. Oops, did I just say that!? Oh, dear. Guess you’ll just have to go to Bowman’s blog and annoy him. Seeya!
Tomas, other idiots[Wails of despair]
SoDak Brave
February 19th, 2009
4:35 pm
DOB,
I am sure you have heard it all by now but nothing you could do about yesterdays mess. But you said something about Chipper saying Hanson is a definite number 1. I would love to hear that story.
flange1
February 19th, 2009
4:36 pm
Steve from Ohio,
Still laughing at your 4:34…..
depley
February 19th, 2009
4:37 pm
Griffey was not going to make or break this team. It really is curious that he came to the braves not the other way around. When a player seeks you out you have to figure that he wants to be here. That e went back to Seattle, we all knw it will be a long season for them, they might lose 100 or more games. Enjoy Jr… As for the kids the braves have, there is no reason to think that Brandon Jones or a Diaz/Anderson platoon would do this team any good. We will, it that is the case, have the worst outfield in baseball and all the money so unwisely spent on starting pitching will have been a waste. And I say unwisely because the braves NEVER needed 3 starters, we needed 2 and a Lfer. What we got was 3 pitchers and a horribly weak outfield.
Random
February 19th, 2009
4:37 pm
getnathan (12:57 pm): “Phils signed Ibanez and still have much of their WS team intact. Ibanez is an upgrade from Burrell.”
I believe you’re the only person outside of Bucks County who thinks that.
ncscoots
February 19th, 2009
4:37 pm
Steve-OH…
Jack Nicholson as The Crusading Everyman: “But you got to ask me nicely.”
Original Jon
February 19th, 2009
4:37 pm
getnathan Braves will have plenty of money available.
From where? Where will we have money coming off the books at? Name it?
getnathan
February 19th, 2009
4:43 pm
Original Jon,
You name it
Coxlover
February 19th, 2009
4:43 pm
bham, thanks for rubbing it in
mr baseball
February 19th, 2009
4:44 pm
Anyone who ever watched both of them play knows that Andy Marte was Spanish for Brad Komminsk. Both had holes a mile wide in their swings, and it never creased to amaze me how both were considered can’t miss prospects.
I find it hard to believe that the Braves will go into the season with both Anderson & either B. Jones or Blanco as regular starters against RH pitchers, Maybe Diaz will hit righties well enough to be a mostly full time starter in LF but that’s an awfully big maybe.
The trade options center around Nady/Swisher and maybe Scott from the Orioles, but has anyone taken a look at the Nationals’ roster. Unless they move Dunn to 1B if Johnson is hurt, they have Kearns, Elijah Dukes and MIB blog favorite Willie Harris as their 2nd string OF. Not to mention the immortal Willy Mo Pena and the once highly touted Corey Patterson.
A team with 5 No. 5 starters in their rotation and a suspect bullpen might consider trading one of their surplus OFs for any healthy and available arm.
If the Braves actually bring in one of remaining geezers to play LF, why wouldn’t Sammons be the most likely choice to be DFA’d. Not a huge market for AAA catchers. He’s more likely to clear waivers than any of the 68 pitchers on the 40-man roster.
getnathan
February 19th, 2009
4:44 pm
Random,
I don’t live in Bucks County. And from what I remember, Philly fans are about as high on Pat Burrell as they are about Donovan McNabb.
McFann O –[zzz]
February 19th, 2009
4:44 pm
That picture is definitely worth a thousand words.
“Oh, dat’sa for sure! Dat’s for veddy veddy Danga sure!”
(Sorry…couldn’t resist…it’s uh…from the Flintstones…)
Efrim
February 19th, 2009
4:45 pm
Why do people still care about the Griffey thing? He made his choice. Good bye Junior. We barely knew ye. It happens. I think the Braves will survive.
Redstick19
February 19th, 2009
4:45 pm
bhamhusky , grown men in the 40s and 50s weeping over a baseball player? awkward.
Tomas
February 19th, 2009
4:46 pm
Steve from OH, man when you’re right you’re right. I am not saying this sarcasticly, because after I read it, I thought to myself, Why the hell did I write that.
bravo!
February 19th, 2009
4:46 pm
DOB,
Must be tough writing a blog that is only read by perfect people who never make mistakes. Drop by my place of employment, and I’ll make a guarantee you’ll see me make some blunders on a regular basis. All that aside, I don’t even think you’ve made a mistake here. What was reported actually happened. If Junior bolted because of journalists who are fueled by fervent and passionate fans, then let him go. He shouldn’t be mad at someone reporting something he said. Grow up junior, and all those out there who are bashing DOB. Besides, we just got saved from adding another question mark to the lineup. In fact, every move we have ended up not making would have been done so with many questions. Peavy: would we really have been that much stronger if we had to give up so much to acquire him? Hampton: an irregular heartbeat already this Spring has proven how unreliable he is going to be. Burnett: can anyone truly believe he’ll stay healthy to earn those big dollars? Furcal: see Burnett. Junior: does he really have anything left, and is he worth millions as a part time player? And so my final question to us all, are we really worse than we could have been? We’ve strengthened our starting rotation and bullpen, for sure. Everyone take a deep breath. DOB, keep reporting what you know, and give all the opinions you want to give right here. I appreciate your efforts.
Alexander Hamilton
February 19th, 2009
4:47 pm
Any thoughts on the nationalization of the banking industry?? I bet I will still read people saying “The Braves have plenty of money.” Has ANYONE conjured up the idea that many smart people are thinking now may not be the time to spend it on people who play games. The smart people may be thinking that the leisure dollar may just take a hit.
Dave, you remember few months back when you had that guy who warned of this and he was driven away by people who declared “This is jst another business cycle.” Nope! Don’t Think So!!
If you see Scott Boras, tell him I think he is an a$$hole.
Ryan
February 19th, 2009
4:48 pm
Nady would be a waste he make a little over 6 mil this year and he has only had one good year anyways. he’ll be a free agent after this season. Also he’s a Boris Client. i perfer Swisher, switch hitter and under contract for 3 years. plays all OF spots and 1B, he has 20-35 homer power. he gets on base a ton. i thkn the reason his average is so low 249. career is cause he has batted in a differnt spot every year, good example KellY Johnson came up as a middle of the order guy in the minors with good power. he comes to the majors we bat him 1st and 2nd. you try to do different things at the plate depending where u bat. So i think Swisher is a good choice. depending on what they want for him. if not him go with Anderson , above average defender, will hit around 290ish hit 10-15 homers in a platoon role. and i have heard he might have to take something like a 1 mil yr or less contract.