What is a fair offer for Glavine?

 Welcome as we go kicking and screaming into the new world of the Wordpress format, where we’re pleased to start things off by announcing Liberty Media’s surprising decision to immediately double the Braves’ payroll and, more importantly, splurge for all-expenses paid trips to the San Diego/L.A. trip for three Braves/MIB blog denizens to join me in SoCal Aug. 3-9!

  OK, none of that is true.

   Well, except for the part about us starting today on the new Wordpress format.

  And this blog is a very rough version of what’s to come, because I don’t have a good grasp of the technology and because the bold-face and italics functions don’t seem to work very well, at least when I preview this page.

  We’re giving it a first run today before we head to Florida for spring training on Friday, reporting for assignment one day ahead of pitchers and catchers, who are due in Saturday. Folks, do you realize we’re going to be in Florida 50 freakin’ days this spring training, counting Friday? Yes, 50 days. Damn the WBC!

 (I’m serious about the WBC. At least the timing of it. If it didn’t line the coffers, they wouldn’t even consider having this thing disrupt spring training the way it does. And they know that if they had it in November, they wouldn’t have even one-third as many star players agree to participate. And there’s no way to compress this thing into an All-Star break, so that’s not a realistic option.)

 Anyway, where were we? Oh, with the Braves and Tom Glavine butting heads. No, wait. That’s probably overstating it. After all, Tom and his agent met with GM Frank Wren for quite a while Wednesday, after an informal breakfast meeting between Glavine and Wren a week or so earlier.

 Both sides want to get this done. It’s just that the Braves want soon-to-be 43-year-old Glavine to take a deep paycut after his injury-ruined 2008 season.

 Now, I think most of us rational folks can see why the Braves are reluctant, with no more than $5-7 million left to spend in their budget, to commit half of it to an aging pitcher coming back from elbow and shoulder surgeries, however serious those surgeries were (the elbow was significant, but not nearly as much as “Tommy John” surgery; the shoulder procedure was a routine “clean-up” thing).

 But I think plenty of us could understand why a 305-game winner (the only living, unretired 300-game winner in baseball — might be less than thrilled by a mere $1 million guarantee and incentives that could be worth a maximum of only $3 million.

 Think about it: If he went 13-8 with 200 innings pitched, the way he did in 2007, Glavine would still make only $3 mill in the contract the Braves have offered him. If he 15-7 with a 4.01 ERA and 198 innings, as he did in 2006, he’d still make just $3 mill.

 And if he got hurt again like he did last year, when he went 2-4 with a 5.54 ERA and only 63 innings, Glavine would probably get $2 mill (the current offer is for $1 million, plus another $1 million if he makes the opening-day roster; he would get the final $1 million if he didn’t get hurt before the 60-day mark).

 He’d get another $1 mill if he’s still on the roster after 60 days. That’s $3 mill total, if he makes it to the 60-day mark. Which seems fairly reasonable, actually, especially in a real-world economy that’s finally trickled down to baseball.

 However, it should be noted, Mike Hampton got a one-year, $2 million guaranteed contract this winter from the Houston Astros. Someone can look this up, but I think he’s missed some starts and been on the DL one or two (or seven, or 10) times in recent years.

 (And please, can we confine this to actual relevance. By that I mean, I know the economy’s gone to hell in hand basket and millions of people are out of work. And yes, of course baseball players and other athletes and entertainers make obscene amounts of money, compared to you and me and just about everyone else who’s not a CEO of a failed financial institution. But it’s been that way for a long time, and as long as some movie stars make $10 mill or more for working a few months on a movie, or a few talk-show hosts make more than that for sitting behind a desk interviewing people … well, folks, they get what the market will bear. And folks in dangerous and/or noble jobs like cops, teachers, soldiers and sports writers — OK, sorry, thought I’d try to slip that through — are, relatively speaking, vastly underpaid.)

 The thing that Glavine is upset about is that there is no way for him to make anything more under that contract. He’d like the opportunity to earn more incentives, to push the deal to perhaps $5 million or more, if he has the kind of season he was still having every year until 2008.

  (For those who act like we can start correcting that disparity by not paying Glavine more than $1 mill guaranteed or paying him a maximum of $3 million. Even in this economy, Brad Penny signed a one-year, $5 million guaranteed contract this winter with Boston, after going 6-9 with a 6.27 ERA in 95 innings in an injury-plagued 2008 season with the Dodgers. He’s got no ties, no history with Boston, which also gave the aforementioned Bearded Icon (Smoltz) a $5.5 mill guaranteed contract, even though he had major shoulder surgery, will be 42, and might not pitch until June. Hey, and 45-year-old Randy Johnson this winter got a two-year, $8 million contract with San Francisco, after totaling 240 innings and 15 wins over the past two seasons combined. Just saying, dude’s as old as me, with a back that’s even worse than mine. Far worse, actually.)

 It’s worth noting, Glavine had never been on the disabled list in his entire major league career until 2008, and had pitched at least 200 innings in 10 of the past 12 seasons before last year (and 198 innings in one of the two years he fell short of 200 in that span).

 Glavine says he’ll be creative with the Braves and agree to defer money if it’ll help them with this year’s payroll. As he said, if he’s on the team he wants them to be able to sign an outfielder.

  Maybe I’m missing something, but if he’s really willing to defer salary, would it be unreasonable for the Braves to offer him a contract that pays him what they’ve already agreed to pay him this year — $1 mill guaranteed, $1 mill if he’s on the opening day roster, and $1 mill if he’s on the roster after 60 days -– plus another $2 mill or $3 mill in possible incentives, for making 25 and 30 starts and/or pitching 175 innings, with all of that additional incentive money to be deferred for a year or two?

 Doesn’t it seem like the Braves and a pitcher with so much Atlanta history, such deep roots in the community (despite a five-year affair with Flushing), could work out such a deal? Particularly after the icon (Smoltz) already left this winter, leaving a lot of fans upset and leaving only Glavine, Chipper Jones and Bobby Cox around from the Atlanta Braves’ 1990s Mount Rushmore (or Stone Mountain, as it were).

 If Glavine isn’t good enough to beat out Jorge Campillo, Jo-Jo Reyes, Charlie Morton and uber prospect Tommy Hanson this spring, well, then you pat him on the back and consider that $1 mill guarantee the gold watch he’ll get for his years or service to the Bravos (if I’m not mistaken, Glavine had five 20-win seasons and won a memorable postseason game or two for Atlanta).


 OTHER MATTERS

  * Mariners to sign the Kid or Garret Anderson: So if Seattle signs Ken Griffey Jr. or Garret Anderson this week, some of you have asked if the Braves will pounce on the other. Well, don’t hold your breath waiting for that development.

  While Griffey can still hit right-handers, he’s lost a lot and scouts who saw him last year say he can’t get to a lot of fastballs. At his age, he’s a risk the Braves, with their limited remaining funds, seem unwilling to take. I could be wrong, but I think they’d rather see how their young kids do in spring training and/or try to trade for Nick Swisher soon, if his price comes down or the Yankees are willing to offset a couple mill of his $5.3 mill ’09 salary.

 There’s no question that this weeks signings of Bobby Abreu (by the Angels) and Adam Dunn (by the Nationals) diminished the field of potential run-producing outfielders for the Braves to choose from, but they were never going to give Dunn the kind of money he got from the Nationals (two years, $20 million).

  Seeing Abreu sign for a mere $5 mill with incentives that could push it to $6 mill tell you something about how tight the Braves’ budget really is — it’s tight, folks.

  As for Anderson (who’s been almost Ryan Freel- or Carl Crawford-like in terms of recent obsession with some on the Braves/MIB blog), the guy’s got poor plate discipline and his power has been in decline since the early part of the decade. Plus, he’d be changing leagues at age 36 (37 in June). I don’t think Braves have much, if any, interest. If I’m wrong, I’m wrong (and I’ll just delete those paragraphs after the announcement they’ve signed him).

  * Another thing, re: Glavine’s options: One other thing about Glavine (sorry to ramble on about the old lefty). Some have portrayed it as a decision he has to make this week or soon after, on whether to take this offer, go elsewhere or retire.

  Actually, he could wait until March, knowing there’s always a team or three that becomes desperate for starting pitching. Remember the Braves a couple years ago, when they literally brought Mark Redmond out of his Oklahoma basement (where he had makeshift pitching tunnel complete with a mound and home plate at the proper distance. (Along with a Bowflex machine used as a clothes rack, two bicycles with tires that have been flat for at least six years, a massive black & white Pulp Fiction poster with Jules and Vincent Vega pointing large guns, and a collection of VHS tapes that haven’t been played in at least five years… No, wait, that’s my basement. Nevermind.)

  For what it’s worth, Glavine has also pitched off a mound in his basement some this winter (he’s also gotten out and pitched elsewhere, including Turner Field in front of Braves officials, who liked what they saw).

 “If anything time is on my side,” he told me last week, when he was prepared to keep pitching in Atlanta when spring training began in Florida (Braves pitchers and catchers report to Dark Star on Saturday).

 “I’ll just continue doing my thing, continue getting myself to the point where I’m ready to start pitching in some games, which I’m confident is going to be early March, and see where that happens, whether it’s with the Braves or somewhere else.

 “Someone always gets hurt in spring training, or a team is not happy with how things shake out with the pitchers they have. Just keep doing what I’m doing here, keep getting myself ready to pitch, and I’m confident the phone will ring from somebody. I hope it’s here, but we’ll see.”

 After his meeting with Wren on Wednesday, it sounded like not much had changed.

 Counting on Hampton (no, really):  Who’d have thought anyone would be talking about the star-crossed, injury-plagued (collossal understatement) former Braves lefty in these terms, afer he missed the entire 2006 and ’07 seasons and made 13 starts in ’08.

 Richard Justice wrote this last Sunday in the Houston Chronicle: “Hampton is the most important piece of the puzzle. If he’s even close to being as good as he was his first time around, the Astros have a great chance of contending.

  “He has made just 25 starts the past four years and didn’t throw his first pitch last season until July 26. Hampton had an 8.10 ERA in his first four starts. After that, he was terrific, rolling up a 3.72 ERA with quality starts in eight of his last nine turns.

  “[General manager Ed] Wade is betting Hampton finally is healthy and that, at 36, he’s still capable of being a top-of-the-rotation starter.

  “Hampton wasn’t in the original blueprint. The Astros began this offseason thinking they would have to say goodbye to [Jose] Valverde and Ty Wigginton to keep the payroll in the $100 million range. At some point, Wade and Astros president Tal Smith reconsidered their strategy and decided to say goodbye to Wolf, sign a cheaper starter and hold on to Valverde.

  “Enter Hampton. Many other things have to happen for the Astros to contend, but everything begins with Hampton.”

  Oy. Much as we like him as a person, if everything begins or hinges on Hampton, it could be a long summer in Houston.

  * OK, let’s get this thing posted and see what the new format holds for the Braves/MIB blog and its denizens. Please be patient, folks, and get registered and start using this new format. We should be able to do a lot more linking and all kinds of cool stuff with audio and, eventually, video. But for now, I’m keeping it simple with the first post.

“CHARLEMAGNE’S HOME TOWN” by James McMurtry

 I’ve got it all to myself now

Crack the window just a hair

Dark and close, the way I like it

Black tobacco chokes the air

I keep to myself, I lack the language

I measure out my life with coffee grounds

The trees are the color of ashes

In Charlemagne’s home town

I said I didn’t fear the distance

As if I’d ever been that tough

I can hear your voice across the water

But that’s nowhere near enough

Won’t you fly across that ocean

Take a train on down

Because the night’s growing lonesome

In Charlemagne’s home town

The fortune teller told me nothing

That I wouldn’t have found out on my own

She read my palm and she took my money

She looked at me with eyes of stone

She said the odds are long and stacked against us

Still we try because we must

To keep from leaving our senses

Long forgotten in the dust

Like the bones of some saint

Beneath a church floor

Who must have died for lack of light

The color snapshots I sent you

All came out in black and white

There’s a lonely child on a snow white pony

On a carousel in the market place

He sits on that horse and he looks right through me

A shadow falls across his face

What will I do when my glass is empty

What will I do when it all comes down

What will I do when it comes to nothing

In Charlemagne’s home town

 

106 comments Add your comment

Bayou Brave

February 12th, 2009
2:37 pm

Basic bread
Flour
Yeast
Water
Salt

Mix all ingredients together.
Knead thoroughly.
Cover with a cloth, and leave for one hour in warm room.
Knead again.
Place in a bread baking tin.
Cover with a cloth, and leave for one hour in warm room.
Bake in the oven at 180(degrees)C for 30 minutes.

dogsbrekky

February 14th, 2009
7:40 pm

BTW – MUSIC HEADS

Headed out to Long Island last night for my g/f’s best friend’s 50th party. It had a 60s theme and an awesome live band

At around midnight, who shows up but ACE FREHLEY, he jammed for a few Hendrix improvs and then I had to leave…

poor dude looks so bad……..

“Just say no to heroin kids”

Tomas

February 14th, 2009
7:42 pm

I just got home and saw the news about Griffey. I think he is the best option out there, and would be perfect in a platoon situation with Matt Diaz.

Griffey just had knee surgery, and while his production dropped last year he still had 18HR 71RBI’s, and a 353OBP. And against right handers he had 14HR 48 RBI’s and a 379OBP.

He is going to play left field and platoon, so his body won’t suffer as much. He still has a lot of presence in a lineup, and that’s just what the Braves need.

BravoMan

February 14th, 2009
7:45 pm

Im thinking…
VS LHP
1.Y.Escobar
2.K.Johnson
3.C.Jones
4.B.McCann
5.J.Francoeur
6.K.Cotchman
7.M.Diaz
8.J.Anderson/J.Schafer

VS RHP
1.Y.Escobar
2.K.Johnson
3.C.Jones
4.B.McCann
5.K.Griffey
6.J.Francoeur
7.C.Kotchman
8.J.Anderson/J.Schafer

dogsbrekky

February 14th, 2009
7:47 pm

We bat Junior #4 vs RHP

FWIW in a baseball mogul simulation they ALWAYS BAT McCann at #4 in our lineup, KJ at 5 or 6 and Chiiper #3, maybe the computer knows it all

U Kno Who

February 14th, 2009
7:51 pm

Hello everybody,I hit some good balls in the batting cage today,just wanted to come on here and say hi to al you guys, Looks like this is gonna be a good camp this year.Our team looks real good. I am very impressed with our pitching staff.Before we start the questions and answer. I just got word from Frank who told me it was ok to make this announcement.The Braves will officially announce on WEd that we have signed Ken Griffey JR pending him passing his physical.
Ok lets start the questions.

mike mangan

February 14th, 2009
7:54 pm

How much does Griffey have left in the tank?Remember when we brought Griffey sr. in during the dismal late 70,s Braves.Maybe well find an unsigned player during the world games.It worked last time with Peter Moylan.Thank Goodness the Nationals are in our division at least we wont finish 5th.Come on Frank pick up your phone and Call Liberty media and see if we can get a stiulas plan going…mike

McFann O –[zzz] (Braves Fann For Life)

February 14th, 2009
7:54 pm

Andy K. Does McCann have a Mohawk? In the picture of him walking out to the cages, it sure looks like he does

Great jumpin’ gosh almighty, I hope not…

Mitchie-san

Haha, yeah! If I had my own computer……

Gibby

February 14th, 2009
7:57 pm

I am for bringing back Glavine because it means the Braves will not need to rush Hansen to the majors. We are a much better team with the depth of the rotation it looks like the Braves are going to have.

If the Griffey move would not work out the Braves have more than enough pieces to get an OF at anytime in the season. Both moves make the Braves better.

I hope they happen

McFann O –[zzz] (Braves Fann For Life)

February 14th, 2009
7:58 pm

Hey, Chipper! Good to hear (read) from ya!

Ok lets start the questions.

Hmm…I’ll come up with a good WBC Q in due time… ;)

(I should have added a 8O to my response to Andy K.)

Mr. Hoo

February 14th, 2009
7:59 pm

David are you dumb? How can you listen to some stupid source? You have no credibility whatsoever. Griffey has said many times he wants to play in Seattle, he’s going to Seattle.

A FAN

February 14th, 2009
8:00 pm

If we do get griffey it should be in a platoon format.he is 39 and injury prone. McCann should hit cleanup and have griffey hit 5th. If they get him also that makes for 5 position players who are left handed. also chipper himself admits he hits for more power from the left side. In a division that has cole hamels and johan santana. Is five possibly 6 LH batters a wise move? And they should sign grampa glavine so it can give hanson and morton a chance to gain confidence in beating up on triple A. In doing that they can be ready for either the second half push or to compete for a starting role next season.

Gibby

February 14th, 2009
8:02 pm

Braves have spent more than any team this offseason except the Cubs and Yankess. People need to quit gripping about only having 5 to 7 million left in the budget.

Billy Pilgrim (Unstuck in time)

February 14th, 2009
8:04 pm

Whoever is posting as Chipper…Revelation 21:8.

Gibby

February 14th, 2009
8:05 pm

Also, in signing Glavine they are putting one hell of a team in Gwinnett for their first season. I have a feeling the Braves want to have a stacked lineup in AAA this year. The pitching staff in AAA will be stacked.

Tostido Bandit

February 14th, 2009
8:06 pm

Lord, here we go again with the Braves beat writer playing the “everybody wants to play for Bobby” card.**PLEASE** give it a rest!

TexasBrave

February 14th, 2009
8:08 pm

Billy Pilgrim (Unstuck in time); Amen brother. Using U Know Who’s name is blasphemy and should be stricken from the blog!!!

TexasBrave

February 14th, 2009
8:10 pm

Billy Pilgrim (Unstuck in time) Revelation 20:10 is even better for this deceiver.

JayDub

February 14th, 2009
8:16 pm

Billy Pilgrim (unstuck in time):

I recommend Luke 13:2-5 for you … or have you not considered yourself?

UNCBrave

February 14th, 2009
8:18 pm

Who’s U KNO WHO? Is it really Chipper or is someone pulling our leg? How did Scaefer look in the cage? Will he be our starting CF?

Steve McP

February 14th, 2009
8:19 pm

Hey Dogs Brekky no problem.

I look forward to introducing much chat about the Ashes in the summer – hopefully the English will know how to prepare a pitch, unlike the Antiguans.

spotts

February 14th, 2009
8:25 pm

Little Mac (Brian McCann when he was in middle school):

http://flickr.com/photos/34087909@N06/3279489915/

A teacher at my school taught McCann in 8th grade and has his old basketball picture on her wall (they won the Gwinnett Championships that year, btw….no doubt because Mac was on the team). I was expecting him to be a little pudgey, but he’s actually pretty skinny.

Serbok

February 14th, 2009
8:25 pm

High to all, New format should be cool!!! Sooooo much can be done! With Technology~different formats etc… Baseball: I have AlWaYs “argued” on the side of Pro atheletes salaries! As DOB pointed out, its what the market will bare, Michael Jackson for example? (Did I hear a Loud CrInGe???) lol or Jerry Springer perhaps?~ They make the money cuz its there to be made! Personally, I think neither of those “*People?*” shud be making more money than I! However a 42 year old pitcher, coming off TJ surgery, pitching in His hometown, whom has “Went to the Dark side for 5 yrs” and is without a doubt! A HOF/ Anyone have any numbers on how much money he has made in his career? Including minor league stints?
It was soooooooo nice of Timmy to come back and try and hook back up with Lassie! However, as we know~ that dang Timmy fell in a well:-(
It’s only a million dollars give or take 4 mil? Lassie is looking down at Timmy right now~and may be pondering? Hm, If I rescue this boy again! Will he have the ability to feed me? Like he did b4? (200 innings) or is it worth my time and energy, to let timmy have another crack at doing what he loves to do? Playing with a class organization, with a HOF manager and a future HOF at 3rd base? Maybe Timmy ~well if he needs more money, to keep a roof over his head, maybe Timmy should consider pitching for a team like Milwaukee? That way he cud get a few more bucks, maybe! And convince himself he ended his career as a brave?
Glavine “was” maybe is a very gifted athlete, Last time I played baseball was many Manny’s ago! If my memory serves me~ I actually enjoyed playing the game! I had fun!!! How much has Glavine made in his career?
Get the Jist?

steve_97060

February 14th, 2009
8:25 pm

that was not chipper.. there is no way the club would allow someone to “un”officially announce a signing on here..

Andy K.

February 14th, 2009
8:26 pm

Chipper, is it really you? Not to be rude or anything, it’s just that we get duped quite a lot nowadays with impersonators.

Ryan #1 Chipper Fan

February 14th, 2009
8:30 pm

Hey Chipper thats good to hear! just wanted to say about 11 years ago when i was 9 i never watched baseball before , i was changing channels and i went to TBS and baseball was on and the first thing i seen was you batting and hitting a homerun, and u cant forget a name like Chipper and i started watching more and more became a big Braves Fan because of you so thanks!!

BabyGoatEater

February 14th, 2009
8:31 pm

U Kno Who: If its really “you know who”, then……Whats the feeling around the guys about the new faces throwing to Bmac now days?

braves fan 16

February 14th, 2009
8:33 pm

Don’t believe U Know How till Dob says its chipper

BringOnHansen

February 14th, 2009
8:34 pm

What specific things did you do during the offseason that you think will help you at the plate this year?

braves fan 16

February 14th, 2009
8:34 pm

sorry about the spelling i ment U Know Who

Steve McP

February 14th, 2009
8:34 pm

DOB hopefully with all this new technology you will be able to give the players a proper ID so that impersonators don’t disrupt the blog.

It would be great if we could get some views straight from the horses mouth during spring training,

cvbraves

February 14th, 2009
8:39 pm

DOB…have to agree. Time for a new blog. Enjoyed going back and reading this one again, and some of the early comments prior to knowing that the Braves were getting close to signing Glavine and maybe JR.

My how folks opinions and comments change as things move forward. Looks like you pretty much had the dollars/incentives deal figured out in what the Braves should be able to do to keep Glavine. It appears you didn’t think JR would be a good choice although DAP called that one.

Anyway, if I can’t be there (although only an hour or so away), I’m sure glad you are. Keep up the great work.

dogsbrekky

February 14th, 2009
8:40 pm

Steve McP – I play a lot of poker. I noticed the great god from downunder now plays the great game. They featured “WARNEY” at the WSOP Europe..

I think the casino is in Leicester Sq, looks great…

Alas I remember my late dad taking me to Adelaide Oval to see the Poms with the nasty John Snow and uber boring Geoff Boycott (this must have been 1971-72). Anyway, Geoff took 3 sessions to make 100 and the Poms finished like 1-195 in a whole day……….

I immediately took up baseball and never played cricket…….

FWIW Australian cricket is just awesome, they are one mean machine, like the Braves circa 1991-1999

Robert

February 14th, 2009
8:42 pm

Chipper – what was your initial reaction when we couldnt’ close the deal for Peavy and then we lost Smoltz? It seems like the past 3 weeks has been one heck of a nice turn around.

braves fan 16

February 14th, 2009
8:43 pm

U Know Who is it really , really you chipper and how come you can say the braves have a deal in place with jr

cvbraves

February 14th, 2009
8:44 pm

If Chipper’s really on line, tell us what you think the chances are that the Braves will sign Glavine and JR.

TexasBrave

February 14th, 2009
8:49 pm

Come on guys!!!! It’s not Chipper! No way Frank lets him announce JR’s signing. Drop it so the impostor will go away.

bravesfaninok

February 14th, 2009
8:53 pm

u kno who ,is frenchy gonna be frenchy of 06,07 or 08??
kids got tons of talent,hopefully he returns to form.
what do you think of kawakami?

TheManMike

February 14th, 2009
8:54 pm

-U KNO WHO-

If it’s you, what are your feelings about the young talent that will be at ST this year? Are there any names that you would highlight….?

If it’s not…well…..you just……lame…..

Ryan #1 Chipper Fan

February 14th, 2009
8:54 pm

Hey Chip , how has Jeff been doing ? do you see him improving and going back to what we know he can do?

Orlando Braves

February 14th, 2009
8:55 pm

Chipper – Where was TP today? Doesn’t he usually throw you BP in the cage?

Andy K.

February 14th, 2009
8:57 pm

Looks like DOB got stuck behind another mini van while out on his run. Or maybe a whole fleet of mini vans.

spotts

February 14th, 2009
8:57 pm

….can’t we have some kind of filter to keep idiots off of here?

Ryan #1 Chipper Fan

February 14th, 2009
9:00 pm

HOw do yall know its not him, You know Chipper really does go on blogs and forums during the offseason and ST

U Kno Who

February 14th, 2009
9:02 pm

Spotts,are you calling me an idiot,I bet I can hit more homeruns better than you and can play third base better than you.

U Kno Who

February 14th, 2009
9:02 pm

I bet I make more money than you do

Andy K.

February 14th, 2009
9:03 pm

Chipper, do you have any indication of what WBC manager Davey Johnson’s plans are with both yourself and Wright as the team’s third basemen? Who will get the bulk of the playing time, and who will DH more often?

McFann O –[zzz] (Braves Fann For Life)

February 14th, 2009
9:03 pm

Spotts

Thanks for the photo!

Heehee…Yeah, he was skinny then, wasn’t he?

U Kno Who

February 14th, 2009
9:04 pm

Thank you Ryan # 1 Chipper Fan

Randy S

February 14th, 2009
9:04 pm

U Kno Who, a few tester questions:

Your home town is known as the capitol of what?

What was the name of your high school?

What brand of glove do you use in the field?

UNCBrave

February 14th, 2009
9:05 pm

Chipper,

How far is ST from where you grew up in FL?

AdirondackDave

February 14th, 2009
9:05 pm

Chipper — When you were here last year I asked you how long you wanted to play. You replied “until 40 and after that family, health will determine when i retire.” Is that still your plan?

Efrim

February 14th, 2009
9:06 pm

Hey Chipper, what was your initial reaction to the Lowe signing? I believe you had a convo with him prior to his agreement with the Braves, what were some of the things you sold him on? It sure worked. Happy to have him leading the staff. Thanks man!

Ryan #1 Chipper Fan

February 14th, 2009
9:07 pm

Your welcome Chipper, since your being really open about the Griffey talks, is there a good chance your going to get the contract extension you want, and all of us fan want as well

Jacob

February 14th, 2009
9:07 pm

That ain’t Chipper. Chipper has better grammar and spelling skills. I cried out in joy today upon learning Jr. might be coming to Atlanta. Looking at his and Diaz’s numbers, it’s like they were made for each other. Can you imagine having Jr. Griffey off the bench when a right handed pitcher comes in late in the game a lefthander started. I am salivating even now. He has presence, and you can’t tell me pitchers want to face him. By all accounts his knee is healthy. By the way, he bats cleanup against righties. He will see better pitches in front of Mac. THE BRAVES ARE BACK. Thank you Mr. Wren. You are no bird of prey sir:)

TexasBrave

February 14th, 2009
9:07 pm

And I rest my case. Chipper would never talk (type) like the 9:02 post.

Now go away you impostor and take your filth somewhere else. Bowman could use the hits on his blog.

Andy K.

February 14th, 2009
9:10 pm

Chipper, did you find/get any good bucks this year while hunting?

spotts

February 14th, 2009
9:11 pm

“chipper” you can go and hit more homeruns better than me all you want.

SoWeGa Fanatic

February 14th, 2009
9:11 pm

It’s probably Anders. Same intellect . . . or lack of.

Daybed Wagmoe

February 14th, 2009
9:13 pm

The fact that Wren is coming out and stating that the Braves are interested in Griffey seems pretty significant given this offseason’s failures with Peavy, Burnett and Furcal. Back in December or January, Wren took to the tactic of making no comments at all about potential free agents; now he’s choosing to say that he does have interest in Griffey? Sounds to me like Atlanta may already be either deep into talks with Griffey and his agent or that Wren has reason to be confident that the Braves will be able to sign him.

As exciting as the Griffey possibility is, talk about going into the season with your fingers crossed that the boys stay healthy. Chipper and Griffey in the same lineup? What’s the over-under for how many games these two injury-prone players will actually be in the starting lineup together? I’ll say 75. If Griffey is gonna be a platoon player, I’ll make a gross estimation and say that about 2/3 of opposing starting pitchers will be righties. That would be 108 games, leaving another 33 games in which both players have to be healthy enough to start. Infante can sub for Chipper at 3rd, and Diaz can play in Griffey’s stead when he’s hurt, but Diaz is coming off knee surgery himself.

spotts

February 14th, 2009
9:14 pm

but going back to the McCann pic….there’s a team pic that I really wish I would’ve gotten. But it notes that they’re the Gwinnett County Champions and they went 11-5.

The teacher said both McCanns were a incredible athletes…even in middle school. She had both of them (Brad….is his brother’s name?)

spotts

February 14th, 2009
9:18 pm

oh, and sorry it’s late. I know I said I’d post it about a week ago on Monday.
But 1) Monday was my birthday (I can legally rent cars now)
and 2) We’ve had parent/teacher conferences this week. fun stuff…or not

Andy K.

February 14th, 2009
9:19 pm

I think the other thing we are forgetting her is if we’re getting Griffey, we’re also getting a pretty good arm. Anyone remember when he nailed a Twins player from center during the one-game playoff?

NOT CHIPPER

February 14th, 2009
9:23 pm

To echo what has already been said… the person posting as “U Kno Who” Is NOT Chipper. Stop talking to this idiot.

SCRusty

February 14th, 2009
9:23 pm

Just came back on after taking the wife to V.Day dinner. Wow! Over 1600 posts.

braves fan 16

February 14th, 2009
9:25 pm

For crying out lound people its not Chipper

Brian

February 14th, 2009
9:25 pm

U know who – what acc starting QB went to your high school?

The Artist Formerly Known as Too Hot For Teacher

February 14th, 2009
9:26 pm

Randy S – everybody knows the answers to those and/or they are easily found out. If you want to give a tester question it’s gotta be something like, who were the folks in Macon County you used to deer hunt with back during your rookie year?

Chipper used U Know Who last year but I doubt he’s using the same thing this year if he’s posting at all. Heck he may have been posting all off season using different names. Let’s let DOB try to identify a player’s ID.

McFann O –[zzz] (Braves Fann For Life)

February 14th, 2009
9:33 pm

Spotts

No prob–I understand how that goes. (And Happy Birthday to ya!) 11-5? Nice. Let’s get the Braves a .688 winning percentage!! (Actually, that’s impossible–111 wins would give them a .685 WP, and 112 wins would give them a .691 WP, but, you know…)

Yeah, Brian’s brother’s name is Brad (their 14 months apart, just like me and my my brother, too). Both incredible athletes–that’s what I’ve heard. It’s a shame Brad never made it to the Bigs.

NOT CHIPPER

February 14th, 2009
9:34 pm

IT’S NOT CHIPPER!!! STOP TALKING TO THIS IDIOT!!!!!!

Roach

February 14th, 2009
9:47 pm

Andy K.

February 14th, 2009
9:50 pm

All in favor of sending out a search party for DOB? Somebody needs to drag him out of the nearest BBQ joint near Dark Star.

steve

February 14th, 2009
9:53 pm

great griffy – glavine + 36 year old lowe 37 year old chipper next we should get alou and then maybe el’duke too old players only let you down look at glavine and smoltz last year and look around the leage these guys make good bench players

Tom A. Hawk

February 14th, 2009
10:05 pm

GRIFFEY!!! Who cares how old he is or how much he has left, it’s GRIFFEY! Without a doubt the greatest baseball player of our generation. And the only CLEAN player! Griffey is simply the greatest.

keylargo

February 14th, 2009
10:22 pm

I don’t think it has been brought up but two members of Chuck Mangione’s band were on the plane that went down in Buffalo yesterday.

DOBisNUTS

February 14th, 2009
10:23 pm

Dear Mr. OB.
You are being a little presumptuous and frankly, a bad journalist by publishing bits of text that are merely hearsay from a “friend” of Griffey’s…via Terence Moore no less.
Is that relevant? Perhaps wishfully, for those in Atlanta who like Griffey.
Is it poor form? Yes, definitely.
I know it’s just a blog…but since you are a “journalist” people seem to take what you say to heart. Regardless of whether it’s an article, blog post, comment post or bathroom wall scrawl,
it is preposterous, bad form and simply, well it’s just bad.
I know you want to toot your own horn for thinking you have a scoop here, but you don’t…and you know it.
Griffey will sign with Seattle and that will be that. Any talk of Atlanta is either crap, or simply a way to create a way to get a couple more $$$ from Seattle.
Regurgitating Terry Moore’s bad journalism makes you look even worse.
Please stop it before you get your city all whipped up into a frenzy.

man from the mountain

February 14th, 2009
10:24 pm

Tom Hawk, you couldnt be more right…………bring on GRIFFEY!!!!!

DiamondbackMac

February 14th, 2009
10:24 pm

:mrgreen: griffey for a year or two as a stopgap, not a bad idea

Frank from KS

February 14th, 2009
10:27 pm

Well….the Braves need a difference maker and Jr. may be the answer.

Here’s hoping they land him. If FW can do it, then he’s done what he set out to do from the beginning. It may have not worked out the way he or us bloggers would’ve liked…..but he wanted to redo the rotation and get a run-producing OF….and if he lands Griffey, Jr., he’s done just that.

keylargo

February 14th, 2009
10:29 pm

Chuck Mangione

Two victims of Flight 3407 were members of Jazz musician Chuck Mangione’s band. a local jazz expert says their deaths are a significant loss to the music world.

Two members of Chuck Mangione’s band were en route to play a gig with Mangione in Buffalo when they perished in last night’s crash of Continental Flight 3407

18 Wheels of Love

February 14th, 2009
10:30 pm

That’s not Chipper posting…Chipper types left handed.

keylargo

February 14th, 2009
10:32 pm

Sorry to have left out the names.

Saxaphonost Gerry Niewood and guitarist Coleman Mallett were from rochester.

Andy K.

February 14th, 2009
10:33 pm

Rochester is my hometown, and the plane had apparently went down do to ice.

IknowImbeingajerkbut

February 14th, 2009
10:36 pm

I know this is going to seem insensitive…I don’t mean for it to be.
But why has this turned into a Smooth Jazz Plane Crash Forum all of a sudden. I thought we were discussing the sport: baseball.

JEB

February 14th, 2009
10:38 pm

If we could have acquired someone in LF who would generate a 260 – 270 avg. and produce 25 – 30 HRs
We would say that would be great!

We will get that with a Griffey – Diaz platoon!
I would be willing to guarantee it!

Andy K.

February 14th, 2009
10:39 pm

alright, on to cheerier things…like a new blog???? *hint hint* DOB.

Frank from KS

February 14th, 2009
10:42 pm

Hey DOBisNUTS

Why don’t you just put a sock in it. What if Jr. signs with the Braves, eh? Your going to look like a complete idiot for that commment.

I’m a farely newbie blogger….but my first impressions of DOB is that he reports what he hears and information he gets his hands on regarding different matters.

Come on

February 14th, 2009
10:50 pm

DOB has a life guys. Cut the guy some slack. It’s Saturday night and Valentine’s Day no less. I think the real question isn’t, “Where is DOB?,” but why are we all glued to this blog right now. There’s not going to be any new Griffey news tonight.

DOBisNUTS

February 14th, 2009
10:52 pm

Hi Frank.
OK I will put a sock in it.
Have fun.

Andy K.

February 14th, 2009
10:58 pm

*come on* dude, i’m just ribbin’ DOB. I know he has a life, and I mean, it is a weekend, and he’s in 80 degree weather in one of the most fun states in the country. If you didn’t notice, us regulars like to joke around every now and then. If that post wasn’t aimed directly at me, well then carry on, lol

Andy K.

February 14th, 2009
11:01 pm

NEW BLOG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

David O'Brien

February 14th, 2009
11:03 pm

NEW BLOG IS … somewhere. It’s done, and punched. Now just have to find where it went.

keylargo

February 14th, 2009
11:04 pm

Blog Parameters

About Atlanta Braves/Man In Black with David O’Brien

We talk Braves, baseball in general, other sports, music, movies, BBQ and whatever else (except politics).

twinbrave

February 14th, 2009
11:15 pm

All calls to any available outfielders: Requirements, must be over the age of 37 and have a history of injuries, part time play in the past season is a must. The Braves would like to pay you very little and platoon you with someone in LF.

Frank Wren please trade for Swisher, Ludwick, or Delmon Young, someone with some potential. You know we have heard the Braves say they are not interested in a outfielder who hits left handed, and can’t play defense. To quote “we need a power right hand bat in the middle of our lineup and they must be able to play solid defense, and this is a priority for this off season, “Frank Wren. Oh we’re not interest in Dunn, he hits left handed, and can’t play good defense, oh yeah and he wants to much money. That’s because he hits 40 hrs every year.

Griffey, he hits left handed, had his knee drained 3 times during last season and had surgery on it this off season. How fast can he be at this point in his career. He had one of his worst years last year. Not a good move. Garet Anderson, has bad knees, can’t run, and he bats left handed too. These are not the players we need to put in the outfield.

Honestly, I would rather see KJ in left field and Pardo at second base. At least with KJ in LF he has the speed to stop runs from scoring and his HR power isn’t that far behind Griffey or Anderson. KJ has hit as many as 16 HRs in one year, last year Griffey hit 18 and he played in two of the best home run parks in all of baseball. Anderson only hit 15 last year. Really, what’s the point of signing either?

TnBrian

February 15th, 2009
12:11 am

twinbrave, ahhhh hush! You just had a bad Valentine’s Day, you’ll be fine. Griffey won’t cost much, so Wren is smart if he signs him and able to keep Prado. I know he’ll more than likely be a bench guy, but man he can flat out hit. Awesome bench with Prado/Infante/Norton/B.Jones. Back to Griffey, remember, he hit 30 hr’s just 2 yrs ago. I think it’s pretty obvious his knee gave him fits last year. He’s like Chipper in that his instict at the plate won’t vanish with age.

troy

February 15th, 2009
8:50 am

Stop whining about the new format and write.

curt moore

February 15th, 2009
6:14 pm

DOB Gosh it’s great to read your blog after a long winter. Your style is super. Looking forward to your blogs on the 2009 Braves.

BRAVES 2000-WHINE

February 15th, 2009
11:36 pm

Glavine is a Braves hero and will always be thought of as a Brave to me. BUT….what has he really done the past 3 years? Put up big numbers – get big paycheck. If not take whats offered to you and realize your blessed to even have a job with todays economy.

Mark Windsor

February 16th, 2009
6:00 am

All is looking nice for the new season for Braves however they dont have ownership that loves them that will hurt

Tater Tets

February 17th, 2009
12:07 pm

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