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Certified Financial Planner Cass Chappell
Today’s Q&A about Long Term Care Insurance comes from Cass Chappell, a CFP with Chappell, Mayfield and Associates.
Q. “When should I buy Long Term Care Insurance?”
A. Ask several different people this question and you’re likely to get several different answers.
Insurance agent: “Now. You can potentially lock in the rate and you don’t have to worry about whether you will be insurable in the future. Something could happen to you today that might render you in need of long term care for the rest of your life.”
Financial publication X: “When you are 60. This is the time to start thinking about long term care expenses. Sure you could potentially lock your rates in at a lower rate if you buy it sooner, but you will be paying the premiums longer. The average stay in a facility only lasts 2.2 years anyway.” Note: Any statistic meant to justify their position could have been inserted in that last sentence. I hear “2.2” more than any other.
Financial publication Y: “Consider whether you really need it. Many people should self- insure this expense. Since the average stay is only 2.2 years, you should easily be able to weather the storm of these expenses. Paying premiums for many years to avoid only 2.2 years of expenses is a waste of money.”
Here’s my answer: “It depends.” The insurance agent and the two financial publications have oversimplified the need and made some dangerous assumptions.
My belief is that there is no concrete answer to this question; no simple test that will give you the answer. However, there are four basic variables to consider:
1. Current Financial Situation
There are several factors to consider when you have decided to purchase a policy, such as policy limits and elimination periods. Even if you purchase a policy with a lifetime benefit, there is still some maximum amount that the policy could reasonably be expected to payout. Because of this, it really is possible to self-insure against the costs of a long term care need. The number of people that fall into that category, however, is smaller than you might think.
Consider a couple with $2 million in savings. This is the sole source of their retirement savings. They are currently living on about $80,000 a year in withdrawals from their investment accounts. [Let’s ignore any social security or pension payments that they might have coming in]. We subscribe to a withdrawal rate from a nest egg of about 4.5%. As you can see, this couple is already cutting it close. If a long-term care event were to happen and an added expense of, say, $30,000 per year were added, this could be detrimental to their nest egg.
Self-insuring should be considered only when a nest egg is large enough to withstand withdrawals of 4.5%, including long-term care expenses. In that situation, one might purchase the insurance anyway, since the premiums are so small in relation to the nest egg.
2. Appetite for Risk
Many people live their lives and never need to pay for assistance. Many people who do pay for assistance only pay for a very short time (because they pass away after 2.2 years, remember?). Deciding to “roll the dice” and forgo the purchase of an LTCI policy is something many Americans have decided to do (LTCI sales have recently slowed somewhat).
“It won’t happen to me.” “My mom and dad lived to 90….never any problems.”
I have heard every variation of the two statements above.
The worst excuse I have ever heard?
“If I need to someone to take care of me because I can’t do it myself, just shoot me.”
Believe it or not, I have heard that exact statement many times. I don’t really need to address what is wrong with that logic.
In all seriousness, you could take the risk of not purchasing the insurance. I would point out that the premiums are small compared to the devastating effects of a prolonged long-term care event. Modern medicine is keeping people alive that would have died after a few years in the past. This trend is likely to continue, meaning that the chance of a prolonged, financially devastating event will only grow larger. Just understand this risk before you take it.
3. Other Types of Insurance
You might have a disability policy that provided for benefit payments to age 65. Benefit payments are usually expressed as a percentage of income. For most people, this payment would be larger than the payments from an LTCI policy. Some policies allow for conversion to a LTCI policy at a stated age. If you fall into this category, you might consider delaying the purchase of a LTCI policy until either your disability policy terminated or your conversion period was set to expire.
4. Health Status
Buying insurance now does eliminate the risk that you may not be insurable in the future. With the exception of someone who has an insurance policy that allows for the guaranteed conversion to an LTCI policy, you are taking a risk that you may not be insurable in the future. Once you have been diagnosed with a cognitive impairment it is too late to get a policy. Once a degenerative bone condition has been diagnosed it is too late to get a policy. Once you have a stroke,…. ETC, ETC, ETC, ETC.
This is a real risk. In our experience, many people decide to purchase a policy simply because they are currently healthy and don’t want to risk being denied in the future.
Question: Have you purchased long-term car insurance? Do you think it’s necessary, or an unnecessary expense?
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6 comments Add your comment
Colby Winters
September 1st, 2010
9:57 am
excellent article – thank you!
Neat
September 1st, 2010
10:01 am
LTCI is necessary if you aren’t rich and want choices in the type of care you receive in the future. A good policy will cover in home care as well as nursing home care. Nursing home care is expensive, currently paying $6500 a month for care in a small town in Tennessee, and when the state steps in to pay for care with Medicaid dollars you risk losing property that may have been in the family for generations. Medicare DOES NOT pay for most nursing home care and you have to pay down the person’s assets to $2000 + the family home that will be at risk before the state steps in. Do you really want the state to determine what happens to the possessions you have worked so hard for when LTCI is rather inexpensive in comparison to the risks?
Jenny
September 1st, 2010
10:04 am
I tell everyone I can that they should get long term care insurance now, no matter their age. My parents scrimped and saved all their life and amassed a good-sized nestegg. Two years ago, at the age of 71, my father had a massive stroke that rendered him wheelchair-bound and forever needing 24-hour nursing care. My father was always the one in good health and had none of the usual risks for stroke. When he first got of out the hospital many nursing homes would not even take him because he could survive even in his condition for a very long time and even though they have a large nestegg, it will eventually run out. They have had to pay upwards of $8000 a month for nursing care for him and when the money is gone he will be stuck on Medicaid at the mercy of Medicaid (the good nursing homes only provide 1 or 2 beds for Medicaid and everybody else goes to the crappy nursing homes where you wouldn’t want your dog staying). When going thru his papers I found where he could have purchased a policy for $150/month but didn’t and it broke my heart. It would have made a HUGE difference in the search for nursing home and the uncertain future they face.
Yes if you buy it, you are paying for something you might not ever use, but you are protecting yourself and your children (potentially) from having to support you if they are even able. Also by being covered, you retain choice over how and where you will be cared for.
jdawg34
September 1st, 2010
10:49 am
I want a policy that returns premiums if you do no use the policy. There is even a product for term life that pays back the premium if you do not use, or surrender.
Rod
September 1st, 2010
12:29 pm
Rana – I know you like plugging Groupon (and I like buying them), but I wanted to let you know – they’ve just been busted for falsly promoting a Groupon for a local restaurant (Fuji Hana). They claim the class they offer is worth $90 and can be bought for $45. THEY LIE.
The restaurant has a webpage that shows the class is ALWAYS $45. Since I brought it up, they even dropped the page off the website! I’ve questioned Groupon about it, but they don’t have the guts to respond. This would be a good one for you to research and write a full-length article questioning Groupon – it might get picked up by other papers!!!
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