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American Idol tour returns to Gwinnett Arena August 1; does song familiarity matter?

american-idol-top-10-2010The “American Idol” tour is back as usual at the Arena at Gwinnett on August 1. There are 49 dates, a bit fewer than in the past.

Tickets go on sale May 15. Prices are not posted yet.

I expect attendance will be way off from a year ago and be comparable to season six. The show sells out this area almost every year, even off years, but it will just take longer.

-What Not To Sing investigated whether singing a familiar song or an obscure song matters or not whether you get eliminated or not. After an exhaustive sutdy, the conclusion: it doesn’t make a difference.

-Ratings continue to slump on “Idol.” The early numbers last night were just 18.8 million with a 6.6/19 share among 18-49. It usually goes up a bit in the finals but this is still well below last year’s comparable top 6 performance show, which drew 24 million. That’s about a 20 percent drop off year over year. And this compares to 20.3 million for “Dancing With the Stars” Monday with a 4.3/13 among 18-49.

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JTesla

April 28th, 2010
12:05 pm

I figured as much regarding song familiarity, good to hear.

So anyone planning on watching the current batch of Idols on tour? Aside from Rodney of course.

Rickster

April 28th, 2010
12:26 pm

Heck… I’m having trouble staying interested in watching them on ‘free’ TV. No way I’d spend money and time, fighting traffic to go over to Gwinnett Arena to watch any of them.

Now Carrie Underwood… same venue – different story. :-)

Garlic Breath

April 28th, 2010
12:28 pm

With this group of singers I’m not surprised there are less tour dates scheduled. Anyone for some garlic?

KPH

April 28th, 2010
12:29 pm

I tend to disagree about the song familiarity thing. If I were judging I would want to at least have heard the song before so that I could give an informed opinion of the competitors rendition compared to the original. Even if they changed it up a little I would want to know what I was compairing it to.

I feel the same way when I am making my judgements in my family room on tuesday nights. If I have never heard the song I do listen to the performance and pass judgement as best possible but if I know the song I can usually make my decision before the last note is sang. As far as changing up the songs I for one enjoy it most when the performer tries to sing it like the original did. I mean the original was a hit right? So why change it so much? A tweak here and there to fit your vocal range is ok but to totally throw out the original song and make it virtually unrecognizable is unacceptable IMO.

wreckedpizza

April 28th, 2010
12:30 pm

Doubt I will make it to an AI tour show although I would like to see/hear Katie and Didi again.

KPH

April 28th, 2010
12:37 pm

No Jt I am not. Of course I havent been to any of the idol tour shows in seasons past either. I have however seen Carrie, Kelly, Ruben, Taylor, Bo and Pickler live.

Neg says it like it is

April 28th, 2010
12:37 pm

Ratings this year will look incredible compared to what they get next year sans Simon.

wreckedpizza

April 28th, 2010
12:44 pm

Regarding tonight’s show, am I alone in wondering why Shania Twain was not announced as a performer? Ryan mentioned Lady Antebellum, Rascal Flatts, Sons of Sylvia and Shakira (why???) but not Shania. The other mentors have all performed. This is kinda strange, eh?

Rickster

April 28th, 2010
12:46 pm

Not to mention the competition from X-Factor, Neg. With Simon offering a competing product the loss to AI will be much worse than if he simple went away.

ncdafan

April 28th, 2010
12:51 pm

dang – this show is steadily shedding viewers, bit by bit. it still kills the rest of the night’s competition, but its age is showing, as well as i think just an overall dislike and disinterest in this season. it had to happen sometime, but i can’t see tptb being pleased with this at all – especially with ‘dwts’ stealing a lot of it’s thunder ratings wise in the press… they drew 20+ million viewers monday, w/o kate gosselin, so i’m going to be watching the ratings war with more interest than i have this year’s show.

KPH

April 28th, 2010
12:53 pm

I didnt notice wreckedpizza but I would love to see Shania perform.

ncdafan

April 28th, 2010
12:53 pm

i have no desire to pay my hard earned money to see the tour this year. there is no one exciting enough for me to go through the process of buying a ticket and sitting through 2 hours of the meh we’re seeing on the show. i’d be hard pressed to say i’d even care enough to go see it if i had free tickets.

wreckedpizza

April 28th, 2010
12:58 pm

Yeah, I would too, KPH. I hope it was just an oversight and Shania does perform as well. That’d be a lot of performances, though. Guess we’ll find out later unless Sir Rodney has the scoop.

Neg says it like it is

April 28th, 2010
1:01 pm

Another problem for AI: No Idol winners have gone on to become stars since since Carrie, meaning it lacks the excitement of crowning anything important beyond the context of the show itself. If they don’t get someone to bust out this year, they will have trouble convincing viewers this is really that relevant of a show.

KPH

April 28th, 2010
1:12 pm

Shakira? Tonight? With Rascal Flatts, Sons of Sylvia and Lady Antebellum? OOOOO…K?

JTesla

April 28th, 2010
1:16 pm

Shakira goes with anything.

I’m still undecided on how this year will be viewed (by me). It all comes down to next weeks show. 5 artists, 2 songs each, 1 hour. It’s a simple formula, time to see if Idol can do it (like they used to).

KPH

April 28th, 2010
1:18 pm

I got it! They are trying to pull a spinoff from CMT Crossroads.

KPH

April 28th, 2010
1:20 pm

LOL! I guess that depends on what about Shakira you are talking about JT. ;-)

KPH

April 28th, 2010
1:22 pm

Or at least let them sing an entire song JT. Even if it’s just one song.

Deirdre

April 28th, 2010
1:23 pm

If they give the contestants 2 songs each next week, I will forgive and forget that this season ever happened. If not, and they also don’t give the top 4, 2 songs each, they will have proven to me once and for all that the show is no longer about the singers.

Mercedes S.

April 28th, 2010
1:31 pm

KPH, 12:29, agree.

To me, it does matter if I’ve heard the song before. A really good song takes some listening to before it sticks, at least imho. So if an Idol performs a song I’m not familiar with I don’t feel I can “judge” it adequately. Takes a really great artist to bring home a “new” song right away.

Also agree with “Glee” poster on previous thread. Curt’s song was spectacular; even though I’m very familiar with it, Curt’s “making it his own” made this a standout in Glee-dom. Had not heard Mercedes’s song before, but her talent and her voice (and the setting) made it unforgettable.

Rickster

April 28th, 2010
1:52 pm

Slow day… so…..

American Idol Auditions we wish we’d have seen: Dolly Parton

Randy: “Love the look. Love the big hair. But for me… it was just a’right.”

Paula in a rare moment of lucidity: “I like you. You have a nice voice. But I’m not sure you’re right for this competition.”

Simon: “I agree with Paula. I don’t think you’re right for this competition. But I think you’re a double threat and you’ll be a big, BIG star in country music.”

Mercedes S.

April 28th, 2010
2:20 pm

And no, no wish to see current crop of Idols in Gwinnett. Only year I was tempted to go was last year (Adam!)… but Gwinett just seemed too far away. In retrospect, wish I’d gone… before Adam threw all caution to the wind.

kelly&carriefan

April 28th, 2010
2:33 pm

Yay, new thread!

I’ve only gone to one Idol tour: Kelly’s! I do wish I had one to see Carrie, but oh, well. That said, I’m fairly certain not going to this one. My plan’s to hit Charlotte for Lilith the following Friday to catch Kelly.

The closer we get to the finale, the more I think next season (if it happens) is destined to be the last season of Idol. Those ratings sure make it seem like we’re heading that way.

Harriett

April 28th, 2010
2:34 pm

Talk tonight. Meeting looms.

Neg says it like it is

April 28th, 2010
2:42 pm

Neg says this is your Bottom Three:

Shovahn
Lee
Mike

Going home:

Mike.

Mike’s at the bottom of the Dial Idol list, and every week he’s underperformed their results. He’s completely toast. Lee and Casey are splitting votes at this point, and Casey outperformed Lee according to most observers last night (though I thought he was a Michael Bolton vomit bag), so Lee goes to the bottom of the list. Shovahn is also there because while she may have a cult following that lives and breathes for her existence, she was so unbelievably horrid that swing voters ran from her like the plague.

Aaron is completely safe, because without Katie and Tim there to divide the teen cheese he’s cornered the market. He should cruise to the Top 4, and possibly even the Top 3.

Next week is a sing-off between Casey and Lee, for this competition isn’t big enough for the both of them anymore and one of them will go bye-bye.

Mercedes S.

April 28th, 2010
2:43 pm

kelly/carriefan, only chance I see to salvage Idol is to actually go with TALENT, and not try to cherrypick TYPES of performers.

JTesla

April 28th, 2010
2:47 pm

Cool, Harriett is meeting looms. I always wanted to meet a loom.

I still think that Idol will limp on for as long as possible, it doesn’t need to be a mega hit to keep kicking. However, it is going down fast and the producers are doing nothing to save it, in fact they seem to be doing everything they can to make it sink faster. Maybe they took a cue from Wall Street and bet on the fall of Idol? We’ll see how it plays out next week. After next Tuesday I might just be coasting until X-Factor.

Rodney Ho

April 28th, 2010
3:24 pm

I wonder what viewership levels would “kill” Idol. I’d think if the 18-49 numbers drop below 4.0, the show would be far too expensive to make it worthwhile. Right now, it’s still well above that.

Deirdre

April 28th, 2010
3:34 pm

Idol started a slow death the year that the producers decided that the judges were more important than the singers. When Nigel Lythgoe left, the decline began.

Nutmeg?

April 28th, 2010
3:49 pm

I wonder how expensive the show actually is? With the exorbitant judges’ salaries (and Ryan’s), it’s got to be far more expensive than most reality shows (compared to scripted dramas).

Rickster

April 28th, 2010
3:53 pm

I’m thinking that Paula is thanking her lucky stars she got out when she did. A large number of people will attribute this season’s decline to her departure (and, to be fair, that has played a part) while overlooking the weakest talent pool in years.

Now, next year, when Simon calls her to do X-Factor, she (and her agent) have a big bargaining chip to lay on the table. (Not that Simon wouldn’t pay her big $ to begin with.)

kelly&carriefan

April 28th, 2010
4:19 pm

There’s a few reasons for the decline, the loss of Paula, the lack of great talent, and not to mention, Simon’s impending departure. I think the show’s going to be really different without him. Plus, they haven’t really changed the Idol formula other than adding the lame “save” and 4th judge. Blah.

KPH

April 28th, 2010
5:02 pm

Agreed k&cfan and the 4th judge has been a big disappointment for me this season. I thought she would be funnier than she has been and she obviously lacks musical knowledge. Most of the time she just parrots Randy then has some lame joke. At least Paula was in the music biz and wasnt very hard to look at either. Yes at times Paula seemed to be in never never land but even that was funnier than Ellens jokes at times.

Mike S

April 28th, 2010
5:50 pm

I have to agree with NEG on his assessment. It is the time of the season where ‘like’ singers are the most vulnerable. To me though, I think Lee might be in trouble this week not next, but it will be him or Big Mike leaving.

Crystal has the big fan base that carries contestants to the top, Aaron has now cornered the tweeny texter ferlie vote, and Siobahn probably has just enough of the alt vote to hang on a few more weeks,.

Vote off order prediction — much like NEG:
top 6 – Mike or Lee, probably Mike
top 5 – Mike if Lee goes, Lee or Casey if Mike goes
Top 4 – Siobahn
Top 3 – Aaron
Finals will be Crystal vs survivor of Casey/Lee

JTesla

April 28th, 2010
5:51 pm

Oh come on KPH… brining the Shania Twain into the station? Comedy GOLD! Actually I agree with you, you could almost tell when Paula would be crazy, those would be the nights that the pups would be out for everyone to marvel at. I miss being mesmerized by that cleavage.

However, last night we were treated to one Paualish type of display: that stupid neck thing that Kara had one. What was up with that?

Fourth judge: bad
Save: bad
Not being able to have 10 songs (top 10) in one hour: bad
Ryan Seacrest this season: bad
Randy: still bad
Talent: bad
Talent from guest performers: bad

For me, Ellen is just not as bad as the above.

JTesla

April 28th, 2010
5:54 pm

Mike S and Negativo: I agree, but I have reservations in terms of Siobhan. The rabidness of her fans reminds me too much of Aiken, Archie, and Lambert fans.

Rosita

April 28th, 2010
5:56 pm

For me, the original three were a brilliant combo: Yo Dawg, Loosey Goosey and CY-ming. Messing with that formula has never worked, and when Simon goes I plan to go with him.

Ellen is no worse than any of the other train wrecks.

PS, JT: Guess it takes a whole lotta salt to brine a Twain. . . I’d rather be meeting looms. . .

JTesla

April 28th, 2010
6:10 pm

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Neg says: Neg is Right

April 28th, 2010
7:43 pm

JT, I disagree…Ellen is simply the worst addition the show has ever made. What a clueless waste of air space.

todd

June 24th, 2010
5:14 pm

this seasons American Idol is not so great.. the personality of this years winners are boring and are way off. If crystal bowersox and lee are the best America has to offer then were all in trouble.