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5/21: A thank you to the blog readers and why Kris Allen won

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I’ve been blogging here since season four, the year Carrie Underwood won. And every year, I write a basic thank you the regulars here who have kept the blog conversations lively and deeply opinionated, as they should be. With wordpress, it’s been much easier to write comments and as you know, I’m loving the polling capabilities.

First off, welcome to the newbies this year. Thank you for joining us
GaGirl, Katy, offkey, everett, Highlander, Generalz GM, cadre, Mercedes and GrantPguy. I’m sure I’ve missed a few but new blood is always a good thing in blogland.

And I want to pat the backs of past regulars including Judy, Exitnow, Nana, Harriett, Andi, IdolWatcher80, Harm, gg, tnecvolfan2001, Watching Idol, War Eagle, Mike S, Lara, JTesla, Woodpappy, RxDawg, KPH and Neg. Mike S, as usual, is always incredibly insightful. Neg, you are always there for a laugh. Ditto with Exit Now (though offkey can zing’em, too!) JTesla, you are the nicest guy here. Thank you for your stream of compliments for my work. And Lara? You have been here the longest. I appreciate you sticking with me since the days of Bo and Carrie! (And Roho Fan, my fiance, gets to sit and watch me blog all the time!)

Plus, a special thanks to Deirdre and Linny for being my unofficial moderators. You two make my job so much easier since this isn’t the only duties I have. You are my MVBs– Most Valuable Bloggers.

As the vets know, I will continue to blog “Idol” throughout the year. The tour, the auditions, the TMZ videos, the success (or lack thereof) of the various alums. It’s fairly endless. Seldom does a day go by with SOME news. So check in early, check in often. I will appreciate it!

–So let’s get on with why Kris Allen won. (And according to Billy Bush in a tweet, he heard it was a landslide and Arkansas voted BIG time for their home state boy.) I’ll make it quick because we’ve talked about this already.

He had more curbside appeal. That smile, that modesty, great musicianship across the board. Just a nice guy period. Sure, that made him a bit boring. But America doesn’t mind boring in an underdog guise. He simply had a slightly broader fan base, one he built from virtually nothing. He had almost zero airtime up til the semifinals. Even at the top 13, almost nobody thought he had a realistic shot at winning.

I think top 9 was his turning point with his surprisingly soulful and edgy take on “Ain’t No Sunshine.” That really caught people’s ears and made me realize he was more than a John Mayer wannabe. He had something special. And he sealed the deal with that gutsy “Heartless.”

And even as it became apparent he had a shot at upending Danny and/or Adam, he kept the “dark horse” mark. Online betting sites kept him in the 10-1 to 15-1 odds range while virtually handing it to Adam, even as they got to the top 4. I kept underestimating him. I thought he was going home after rock night. And so did most readers here.

In the end, we all love an underdog story. While being the obvious frontrunner has its advantages (see Carrie Underwood), it has more often hurt, as Danny and Adam both learned. Ditto in the past with Clay, with Justin Guarini, with Melinda Doolittle, with David Archuleta.

While Adam was camera ready from day one, Kris was relatively inexperienced. He learned how to perform on the big stage before our very eyes and we were part of that experience. We feel we were responsible (at least partly) to his growth and that’s the magic of “Idol.” Even though Carrie was the frontrunner from day one, she was so raw, people couldn’t help but root for her.

And I’m sure some folks love that we gave a middle finger to the judges, who pimped Adam tirelessly (along with Danny). Even on Tuesday night, the judges’ praise to Kris was more along the lines of congrats on making it this far, not that he should win or will win.

Next week, we’ll talk about the commercial potential of the top 13. Because we just know the No. 1 album in May, 2010 will be from Jorge Nunez, right? :)

-MJ has the top 100 on iTunes and “Idol” is all over the place:

4. “Mad World” by Adam Lambert
7. “Heartless” by Kris Allen
9. “Ain’t No Sunshine” by Kris Allen
16. “A Change is Gonna Come” by Adam Lambert
18. “Permanent” by David Cook
31. “Apologize” by Kris Allen
32. “Home Sweet Home” by Carrie Underwood
37. “One” by Adam Lambert
40. “What’s Going On” by Kris Allen
42. “Cryin” by Adam Lambert
47. “Slow Ride” by Adam Lambert and Allison Iraheta
55. “You Are So Beautiful” by Danny Gokey
58. “Falling Slowly” by Kris Allen
66. “Tracks of My Tears” by Adam Lambert
72. “Ring of Fire” by Adam Lambert
76. “Feeling Good” by Adam Lambert
77. “To Make You Feel My Love” by Kris Allen
84. “Whole Lotta Love” by Adam Lambert
97. “Black or White” by Adam Lambert
100. “The Way You Look Tonight” by Kris Allen

349 comments Add your comment

Dalek

May 21st, 2009
8:56 am

Carrie wasn’t the frontrunner for the media and Randy who preferred Bo, and Paula who wanted Constantine and Bo once Constantine went home.

Eclecticdiva

May 21st, 2009
8:57 am

Good morning everyone! Rodney thanks again for the great blog and thoughts!

I agree that Kris had curb appeal. I never thought that Adam would win and wondered if Simon giving him his props was a way of taking votes away from him.

Kris fits the mold and has a broader appeal then Adam. I think that Adam will do well anyway.

Deirdre

May 21st, 2009
9:02 am

I KNEW RoHofan was your girlfriend…and NOW Your fiancee…does this mean I have ANOTHER wedding to plan?????????????????????

joel

May 21st, 2009
9:03 am

I agree with everything Rodney had to say about why Kris won. I am an Adam fan, but Kris just has a much more current, radio friendly sound. In my “informal” polling of my coworkers, I was struck by the generational divide. Those over 30 seemed to prefer Adam, while those younger preferred Chris. Adam sounds more like what people my age (I’m 40) grew up listening to in the 70’s and 80’s. Kris sounds more like what you hear on Top 40 radio today. I have noticed that Idol itself has changed the past couple of seasons. That “current”, contemporary sound is what they want to hear now. The first few seasons just standing up there and belting out the standards Whitney Houston style was enough. Now they are expected to take those standards and really change them up. Lil Rounds’ problems are a good example of this. Performances that might have won her praise 5 or 6 years ago were criticized as too “old-fashioned” and “sound alike” this year.

linny ,,,=^..^=,,,

May 21st, 2009
9:05 am

Thanks Rodney. As always, KUDOS to YOU, Master Blog Host Extraordinairre!!! You’ve made this a fun place to “meet” and I’m so glad that this year has validated all your — and the oldtimers here — efforts to keep it going through mushblog and other not-so-good times. It’s been worth every minute (well maybe not EVERY minute, but nearly all!!!) Seriously, thanks! And as I told you last night, congratulations that you seem to have survived the economic dip at AJC and have become even more valuable to them with print articles, other assignments, and of course, the continued blogging both on AI and Radio/TV. I think I speak for all of us … WE are glad you are HERE!

I’ll be gone all weekend, but you can be sure when i get back I’ll be checking in to see what’s going on with everyone in the bloghouse.

Deirdre

May 21st, 2009
9:06 am

Good points, joel!

Rodney Ho

May 21st, 2009
9:08 am

Great observations, Joel. You hit it on the mark about how the Whitney/Celine stuff just won’t cut it anymore.

DK

May 21st, 2009
9:11 am

Let’s face it. Chris is good, but he won because he was the straight one! He got all the religious votes that were voting for Danny. The final vote should be from a panel of experts. Not the public, who obviously has no clue..Set back and watch Adam outsell Chris 4 to 1.

Meems

May 21st, 2009
9:12 am

Kris may be the winner today but wait and see who has the biggest career. In my opinion, Kris won because of a lot of voters who won’t even buy his first cd…

nwdnanny

May 21st, 2009
9:12 am

Finally, the good, wholesome, moral majority did what was right. Kris is the whole package and someone I wouldn’t mind my children and grandchildren watching and listening to. Just hope the music industry doesn’t corrupt him and his precious wife.

Mike S

May 21st, 2009
9:13 am

Thanks for another great season of Blogs Rodney! And thanks for the compliment too. :-)

I also want to echo what Rodney said about Dierdre and Linny – they are the glue that holds this blog together. While we may butt heads from time to time, I am very happy to consider both of you friends.

To everyone else, keep the great comments and laughs coming. I always look forward to seeing what kind of things some of our bloggers are going to come up with or say.

Stephen

May 21st, 2009
9:13 am

Kris won and I congratulate him, but I am also predicting that he’ll fade into the sunset as quickly as Taylor Hicks did. He’s too much like everybody else that is out there trying to make music. In today’s music industry, just being talented is definitely not enough.

It is also my understanding that the Idol contract is not too artist friendly. So, it might be a blessing to gain the exposure, but not actually win because as an artist you have so many more options (Clay A., Jennifer H., Chris D. & Kelly P. are good examples).

Lara

May 21st, 2009
9:16 am

Thanks Rodney!!! Wow, I got a special shoutout for being here the longest…what does that say about me!? By the way, if I haven’t said it already – CONGRATULATIONS RODNEY ON YOUR RECENT ENGAGEMENT!!!

harriett

May 21st, 2009
9:18 am

Wholesome, schmolsome, nwd! Morality had nothing at ALL to do with this win. You are diminishing Kris’ triumph by insisting so.

April

May 21st, 2009
9:21 am

I was a transfer fan. Danny was my sentimental pick, then I transfered to Kris because of his simple likability. Last night when Kris’ name was called, I felt overwhelmingly sad for Adam. He is sooooo talented and has a family who loves and supports although he is not mainstream.
Very curious to see how they package these two. Simon has dollar bill signs in his eyes when he see’s Adam, his international idol.

IamME

May 21st, 2009
9:22 am

Adam fans… do you think that Adam can fit in with todays music. He’d be a perfect match with music from the 70s and 80s, but I don’t think that he could truly be relevant today. Good performer, but not very marketable.

anthony

May 21st, 2009
9:23 am

I’m so glad that Goth Gay Guy didn’t win.

RK

May 21st, 2009
9:24 am

I called Kris winning — I think because he picked up Danny’s votes.

Great season. Not as good as last year, but they are back on the right track after that Jordin Sparks year. Heck, I can’t recall anyone else from that season, except the guy that was in 2nd place that did the techno/80s stuff. And I can’t even remember his name.

Great show last night — loved KISS, and loved Kara. The look on Bikini Girl’s face was priceless.

Idolblogwatcher

May 21st, 2009
9:26 am

Great Finale last night. To be honest, I didn’t watch much after Allison was voted off and didn’t watch Tuesday’s show. The finale exceeded my expectations. Loved a lot of the performances…Kris and Keith Urban were great. Love Lionel Richie so really enjoyed him and Danny. Black Eyed Peas had me up dancing. My kids listen to that song a lot, but had no idea that was their song. Congratulations to Kris and Adam. Both are great performers and will have successful careers.

Rodney thanks for keeping this blog interesting and engaging and making us want to post…and for the polls! Thanks to Deirdre, Linny, Mike S, Nana and all of the other regulars who made me feel so welcome when I finally decided to post for the 1st time a several weeks ago. You guys are the best!

Woodpappy

May 21st, 2009
9:27 am

Thanks Rodney for the mention. I have enjoyed every minute of reading over the years.
I really thought that Adam would pull it off though.
Mike S. I knew the Danny/Kris tide was strong but voted for Adam because to me he was the best overall. I don’t care about the “pimping”, I listen to the singer and decide for myself. I really really enjoyed this years finale…One of the best shows I’ve seen in a long time. I got shut out last night at 10:07pm when the blog went down and couldn’t get it to come back. Couldn’t wait to get in this morning and read all the “regulars” comments and their take on the show.
Ok, enuff rambling…

Trav

May 21st, 2009
9:31 am

Adam is so outdated, like someone from 1993 trying to re-live the 80’s… he is a one trick pony and may have one or two hit songs, but he’s just not appealing to a broad enough audience. His screeching, his flamboyancy, all a bit over the top. Kris sings great, will be a successful recording artist and seems to generally be a nice guy – he deserved to win.

Cas

May 21st, 2009
9:31 am

Not sure if this was proposed yet so if it was, I apologize. Why Kris won was simply this: When Gokey was in the competition, he and Kris cannibalized votes and Adam had his fan base. When Gokey got eliminated, most of those votes went to Kris. Kris and Gokey were similar in curb appeal, type of music and just having the nice guy persona. Although I say this that Kris needed the win much more than Adam did.

Deirdre

May 21st, 2009
9:32 am

Cas, thanks and welcome. Yes, we’ve discussed that pretty extensively.

Mercedes S.

May 21st, 2009
9:35 am

Thanks for the welcome, Rodney (and congratulations!), and thanks for support from friendlies when meanies (that’s you, sexist Daniel, and you, homophobic Steve)got personal and/or ugly.

Encouraging to read that the blog continues – was wondering how I’d deal with the Post-Idol Blues.

Work beckons – look forward to reading conspiracy theories on return.

Amelia

May 21st, 2009
9:35 am

Interesting that Kris was your pick (above commenter) but that you were “overwhelmingly sad” when Adam didn’t win. I felt the same! I felt deflated when Adam didn’t win even though I love Kris’ music at least as much as Adam’s music. Adam seemed more like an Idol-type “star” to me (ie. a bigger-than-life performer, although not necessarily the bigger record-seller). Adam & Kris are both so incredibly talented. I am thrilled that Kris won, he deserves it.

harriett

May 21st, 2009
9:36 am

Rodney, this blog and association with you and all the regulars here has meant so much to me! I consider it a privilege to be among such good folks with great insights and ability to have intelligent conversation, especially at the times we have differences of opinion. It is my good fortune to become one of you! My day is not complete until I have checked in. Thanks a million gazillion, Rodney, for all you do and congratulations on your engagement!

Jessy

May 21st, 2009
9:36 am

Obviously this is not a contest based on talent. Adam may not have been the cookie cutter type in looks but his talent surpasses just about every contestant this season and some past. Look at his performances last night on stage. He was a natural! I do think that the media messing with Adam’s past played alot on his losing. I like Kris and his voice is very sweet but he is just average to me.

Nana

May 21st, 2009
9:37 am

Rodney, my sincerest thanks to YOU. You have made this blog what it is and we love you for it. Best wishes on your engagement.

To linny and Deirdre: I second Mike S’s comment. You two are the glue that holds us all together and keep calm and peace on here when it is needed. I too, am glad to consider you both friends. To all the rest of the regulars and newbies, I have enjoyed the camaraderie that we have shared and look forward to the off season as well.

KPH

May 21st, 2009
9:40 am

Thanks again Rodney for giving us a place to play. This is the best blog by far on the AJC and I am sure that once again got more hits during the year than any of the others. I enjoy your insight on AI and will be around as long as you are giving us this great blog. Also thanks to all the regular bloggers for giving me cyber friends to laugh with share in your concerns with and just have fun passing the day with. RESPECT to all of you! :-)

skozoze

May 21st, 2009
9:41 am

Long, long, time lurker here. I enjoy reading all the exchanges between everybody, and have had many good laughs while enjoying the blog. I just wanted to chime in with my opinion. Kris, while talented, was clearly not as musically talented as Adam. Kris won because of his looks. Adam lost because he is different, and in America, when you’re different, many people think you’re weird, or scary. I’m not even talking about gay/straight – this is just based on their looks. I can’t believe how many nice, “Christian” people I have run into who have told me all kinds of awful things about Adam, who I am sure they have never met. They all end up by saying “He’s scary.” Evidently they were watching a different AI then me, because I thought he was one of the nicest people who have ever been on there – and yes, Kris was also nice, too. I have been a huge Adam fan all along, and I was impressed with the progress Kris made. In the end, I think it’s good Kris won because he probably needs the exposure more, but Adam has already made his mark and we can expect great things from him.

c

May 21st, 2009
9:41 am

I posted this on the other blog but I think it got deleted. If you like Adam go check out some of Butch Walker’s music. They sound just alike and even look alike too. Butch is an Atlanta guy and I used to go to his shows back in the late 90’s and early ’00s. The first time I heard Adam scream I thought it sounded just like Butch from his live shows.

Neg gives props to Rodney

May 21st, 2009
9:47 am

Great analysis Rodney… you are not often enough complimented on your writing, but let me say that you did a fantastic job of succinctly and clearly articulated Kris’ journey to the title in just a few paragraphs. Thank you also for noting America’s great pleasure in giving the judges who pimped Adam so overtly, more overtly than any pimp job in the show’s history, and ended up getting it shoved in their arrogant faces. Yes, I ESPECIALLY mean Simon’s disingenuous face.

On that topic…

Overall, Randy and Kara as a team proved far more objective, serious and honest in their evaluations than the Paula/Simon team, so I appreciated that at least there was some integrity being upheld on the show. This leads, of course, to the million dollar question as to how the judging can be more effectively time managed into the show next season. I don’t know that there is any answer except having the judges use scorecards to help them avoid excessive yammering.

Kris winning…still hard to believe. What I think changed everything for him was when he began regularly adding his acoustic guitar to the competition. It fit him like a glove…like he was born to strum and sing, which is actually VERY original and unique in today’s synthesized, electronic pop music culture. He fills a void that the public really wants to hear, and I don’t think he will be a copycat of any current artist. He’s actually a throwback to the 70’s acoustic rock glory era, and that musical style is ready to have representation again.

Adam just maxed out his base and found it wasn’t enough. Simply put, he is much less appealing to men in general than women, just like musical theater is more appealing to women in general than men. Men appreciated his vocal skills and acrobatics, but his look, sound, and show performance just didn’t resonate with testosterone bearers like it did with the estrogen crowd.

I think for Adam, he will now be able to focus on the women and, uh… flamboyant men, with his music and performance. He can go from over-the-top to WAY over-the-top without worrying about what men may think. That freedom will make him a true diva, and I expect him to be a pop-culture icon with his willingness to push boundaries on the women’s talk show circuits, titillate with his exotic fashion, costume, staging choreography, and flamboyant live performances.

Kris will become a great recording artist with thoughtful, acoustic singer/songwriter hits. His audience net will be cast wide, as the young girls will swoon, 40 somethings like Neg will buy his albums and have them continuous play on the commutes to work and back, middle America will eat up his style, but the coffee house indie artists will be big fans, too. A huge, crossover performer who will achieve mass appeal like the Eagles, James Taylor, and Paul Simon did a generation ago.

Look for only good things to come moving forward for these two. America got it right.

Deirdre

May 21st, 2009
9:47 am

Thanks for the thanks, Rodney. And a big thank you to you for being our host, our inspiration, our fellow blogger and our friend!

As the unofficial moderator(is there any way we can make that official? I’d love to have post-deleting power. :-) ) I want to thank all the newbies who stepped out of Lurkdom to add fun, friendship and LARGE NUMBERS to our happy blog family. I hereby declared and ordain that you are now “regulars”!!!! Congratulations!

We have spent this season together in a spirit of friendship. We disagree respectfully, agree enthusiastically and maintain civility(with the exception of the occasional drive-by poster)

Please join us for the off-season blogging…or, if you’re not as mentally unstable as some of us…we’ll welcome you back when the new season begins!

Steph

May 21st, 2009
9:48 am

I knew the night they showed the “homecomings” for the top 3 that Kris had sealed the deal. I checked out the crowds who turned out and it’s hard to beat a crowd consisting of 9-13 year old girls and their mom’s. It looked like every middle school girl in the state showed up.

Mugglemikki

May 21st, 2009
9:48 am

I am officially through with American Idol. There is NO way in the world Kris Allen should have run. Week after week, Adam gave brilliant performances–from Tracks of my Tears to Mad, Mad World, where he received a standing ovation from SIMON COWELL no less. If Kris had not had one great performance–Heartless, he would not have even been in the finale. So you can pull one song out of your azz and win the whold thing? Unbelievable. Yes I am a sore loser and what ever names you want to throw at me. American Idol is a sham. Period.

AnnieR

May 21st, 2009
9:51 am

Hi everybody, I was a newbie this year but will definitely be back, blogging with everyone about AI was so much fun this year!! Nana, Deirdre, GaGirl all made me feel welcome so thanks! I predicted on the previous blog that Kris would win before it even started, so guess I was right. Rodney hit it on the head with why Kris won, but under all that makeup and stylin’ Adam is also a genuinely class act. They will both do well in whatever they take on.

DK – I think you are so wrong about the vote being gay vs straight – it’s about the music and performance styles of each guy – they are opposites in many ways. I read on another blog how Adam said it’s all about finding common ground to get together.

The music and acts were all so good it’s really hard to pick a favorite moment from the singing: David Cook, Keith and Kris, Adam and Kiss, Cyndi and Allison, Lionel and Danny, Fergie and the BEPs, Steve Martin w/Megan and Mike. The only disappointment I had with the music was that I thought Carrie Underwood was going to sing but oh well…. Last night’s show made me think back to season one and how AI has evolved. Last night made the first season finale seem like a high school musical in the gym!!

One of the best things for me was seeing Kara put that snotty bikini girl in her place. When it first started, I thought “how cheesy” but when Kara came out it was plain old fun!! She gets a lot of criticism but I think she’s a great addition to the show and I’d rather listen to her than Paula.

Anyway, I’ve rambled on enough…..hope everyone has a great day and a wonderful Memorial Day weekend. Remember those who fought and died for our freedom, hug a soldier/sailor/airman/marine or veteran ;o)

JTesla

May 21st, 2009
9:53 am

Thank you Rodney, and congratulations. I’ll echo what was said about Linny and Deirdre… glue! Thanks goes to you and the other “regulars”

One thing about the Kriss win is that it rekindled the AI southern power argument. If you want to win it is better to be from the south then from Cali.

Skip

May 21st, 2009
9:53 am

Kris won a well crafted and surprisingly entertaining show. Great for Idol fans. Adam won the future. Try to forget the 70s and 80s and think expanding Twilight fan base. Lots of marketing opportunities can and will be exploited with both artists. Awesome.

Nana

May 21st, 2009
9:54 am

Welcome Skozoze. You should have came on board before now.

RBSAtlanta

May 21st, 2009
9:57 am

@Skozoze – that “He’s Scary” comment of yours really struck home with me! I know folks who have said the exact same thing re: Adam. Now, sure enough, he’s just a sweet little goth kid waaay out on the west coast so I can see just how “scared” you could be … and it is no surprise to me that, as evidenced above, nearly every person who is anti-Adam always seems to be anti-Adam because of his look or his sexuality.

I liked Kris – I loved some of his performances – I don’t mind that he won, actually. But I do think that IF it was a landslide, that the only reason it was a landslide is because the fundies from the Gokey camp jumped over to the Kris camp.

It’s a shame really that people can be “scared” of someone like Adam. Try being scared of expressing your love for your partner in public and knowing that you just might get made fun of or beaten … THAT’S scary.

(Wow – for a first post, I really jumped up on that soap box didn’t I?)

tyler

May 21st, 2009
9:58 am

I’m gay and I find it CRAZY that people will say Adam did not win because he was gay. Adam clearly was not the better one. Adam would do great on a Cruise ship dressed in drag. Kris did an amazing job! I’m so sick of people saying the reason he lost was because he’s gay.

KD

May 21st, 2009
10:00 am

Rodney, do you know or heard if there is ever going to be a KISS tour ? My 14 year old loves them.

April

May 21st, 2009
10:00 am

Has anyone mentioned how awesome the BEP, Queen, Kiss, Lauper all were! Jeez, nothing like live music!

Marty

May 21st, 2009
10:03 am

Adam singing with Kiss illustrates Trav’s point. He wasn’t even born when Kiss was popular. How much screaming can one really endure. The trick for Kris will be identifying a genre that will be most marketable, fill concert venues and set him apart from the crowd. He has shown he can excel in most areas and provide variety because of his musicianship, including the ability to sit down at the piano or strum his guitar. Like Rod Stewart should be able to do lots of great duets with other music greats.

Deirdre

May 21st, 2009
10:06 am

RBSAtlanta……now you’ll have to paint the soapbox! Good, we needed a new maintenance guy! :-)

Neg gives props to Rodney

May 21st, 2009
10:06 am

I laugh in the face of the many hypocrites who in the name of “tolerance” bash “fundies” for allegedly concocting an “anti-Adam” conspiracy to win the contest for Kris. Moving forward, I will copy and paste this response for for every lowlife, half-witted bigot who attempts to make such an absurd accusation while on their “tolerance” soap box.

Get a life, get over yourself, and stop being such a self-righteous bigot.

AdamCan'tSing

May 21st, 2009
10:11 am

Maybe I am missing something here. Isn’t American Idol a singing competition? If so it’s simple.

Adam=Can’t Sing
Kris=Can Sing
Can Sing > Can’t Sing thus Kris > Adam

There simple!

Deirdre

May 21st, 2009
10:14 am

tyler, I’m not sure that Adam being gay was the problem…I think it had more to do with Adam being completely different than anything Idol had seen before. Idol is a family oriented, mainstream America type show. Even if Adam was straight, the audience would still be dealing with the make-up, the costumes, the fingernail polish, the hair.

I said on the last thread that I admired Adam so much because of his attitude, because he refused to be a poster-child for any group, but mostly because he simply said ” I know who I am” To me, that statement said volumes. imo Adam never expected to win but he challenged the audience to really SEE him and to judge him on his talent, despite what their previous prejudices might have been.

To me, he was successful.

JTesla

May 21st, 2009
10:26 am

Neg your intolerance of those who are intolerant against people that they imagine are displaying intolerance will not be tolerated.

SS

May 21st, 2009
10:26 am

I have been a closet blogger, reading what everybody wrote but never commenting. I have to give props to Rodney, who kept us updated with all the American Idol news.
I think Kris deserved it. He came quietly and took me by surprise of how he good he was. I thought a few times he was going home. I know that Adam will make it, he has got the appeal and a fan base. Kris is a breath of fresh air. He may be labeled as a pop star or in may be in Christian music. It is nice to see the underdog win.

GAgirl

May 21st, 2009
10:27 am

Morning Everyone
I joined this year as well and want to give a big Thank You to Rodney and congratulations. A shout out to the regulars who made me feel welcome and always respected whatever comments I added whether we agreed or not. I’ll be staying around.

Morgan holcomb

May 21st, 2009
10:27 am

she is sooooooooooooo awesome!!!!!

MMH

May 21st, 2009
10:30 am

kris is awesome!!!! i liked him until the end of the shoow

Katy

May 21st, 2009
10:30 am

Wow! GREAT show last night!!! I’m so happy for Kris and Adam!!!

Rodney…thank you for this blog! I feel very special to have been mentioned in today’s article…I have thoroughly enjoyed chatting with all of you this season! What a great group of people! :)

I will continue to check in…anxious to see what we talk about after Idol…of course I will tell you all about how awesome the Idol tour is on July 31st! :)

Thanks again Rodney and congrats on the engagement!

:)

Deirdre

May 21st, 2009
10:30 am

Who? Fergie? Cyndi? Bikini Girl?

Mike S

May 21st, 2009
10:32 am

Dierdre touched on something that really is a huge factor in Adam making it as far as he did. He did not hide who he was, but he also did not flaunt it. Adam just said, this is who I am and this is how I perform, take it or leave it.

The thing that really hit me with Adam was that he was so genuine in his behavior. He was always respectful of the judges, said thank you when comlimented and did not talk back when critisized. HE also was sure to thank the band and the arrangers each and every week. IT also was not lost on me that he seemed to be the rock that the rest of the contestants held on to – that says a lot about him as a person.

Gay, straight, bi, tri, alien, human – all that does not matter, what does matter is that Adam’s parents should be proud of raising a very well-mannered respectful young man.

vitoria cramer

May 21st, 2009
10:32 am

me too!!!! adam isnt that great!

Adam=Michael Bolton

May 21st, 2009
10:32 am

Screetching a high C does not make you a good singer. Voters recognized that Adam – as good as his voice is – Adam can only express emotion through overwrought screetching. Being gay, dressing weirdly, and shamelessly self-promoting yourself may hurt his some, but the big reason he lost is that people got tired of hearing every song ending with the same overly-dramatic high notes.

Kat25

May 21st, 2009
10:33 am

Well, I’ve been lurking all season, but never posted before. At the risk of sounding like a Monday-morning quarterback, I called this last week when Danny was eliminated (I can produce witnesses! LOL). Adam was just too polarizing; people either loved him or hated him. There was nobody “on the fence” about him who could be persuaded to vote for him. And I really think it was just a matter of his style and little to do with his sexual orientation. Anyway, when Danny was cut, I figured his fans had too much emotionally invested in this season to quit voting just because their favorite was out of the running. Which of the top two would they throw their votes to? The one most like Danny: Kris.

GAgirl

May 21st, 2009
10:33 am

I heard both Adam and Kris will be on Larry King’s show Friday. I’ll be tuning in.

gg

May 21st, 2009
10:33 am

Thanks for the shout out Rodney! Congratulations on your upcoming nuptials. I really enjoyed the show last night, and blogging with everyone. Until next time.

Mugglemikki

May 21st, 2009
10:33 am

From the Huffington Post…I couldn’t have said it better myself:

American Idol Rewarding Mediocrity (Kris Allen Is Lame)
by:Dan Abramson

I don’t even like American Idol*, but last night’s results have gotten me fired up. Not because Adam Lambert didn’t win (while he’s obviously talented, I don’t think he’s the god that everyone made him out to be), but because America seems to be in love with mediocrity.

Mediocrity in the form of Kris Allen. Kris Allen? The guy with no personality and an average voice?

Kris Allen is vanilla. Soft serve.

He’s the guy in college that had no personality but could swoon the ladies because he had a guitar and knew enough chords to play “Free Fallin.”

He’s the guy who you’re friends with, but when someone asks you to describe him, you draw a blank and tell them he’s a “real good guy.”

If Kris Allen were a TV show, he’d be According To Jim.

If I invited Kris Allen to a dinner party, he’d show up and ask if he can chip in instead of bringing a casserole. Kris Allen brings nothing to the table.

If Kris Allen were a baseball team, he’d be the Baltimore Orioles. Sure, we all know they exist, and they’re not that bad, but do we need ‘em?

Kris Allen has two first names. And the first one is spelled wrong. That’s the only thing I know about him.

And apparently that’s the only thing America needed to know.

Thanks for your time,
Dan

Angela

May 21st, 2009
10:34 am

I think we are missing a huge point about why people didn’t vote for Adam. For me, it had absolutely nothing to do with eyeliner, sexuality, screeching, any of that. He is a very talented guy. I just got so sick of AI showcasing him to the exclusion of all the others. I think a large sector of the population was voting for the underdog as we are geared to do.

GAgirl

May 21st, 2009
10:35 am

Well said Mike S.

AnnieR

May 21st, 2009
10:35 am

Mike S…hear hear!!! As I’ve said before, Adam is truly a classy young man. There are a lot of sore loser Adam supporters out there, get a grip and move on. Adam already has….

Deirdre

May 21st, 2009
10:35 am

Nicely said, Mike!

RxDawg

May 21st, 2009
10:37 am

OMG OMG OMG, I’m like sooooo famous =D Thanks to all for another great season.

Billy

May 21st, 2009
10:37 am

I typed the following on the previous thread only to find Rodney had started a new one. I’m posting it again because I am a narcissist who believes everyone should be forced to hear my opinions. ;-)
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I’ll admit that Kris doesn’t have the stage presence Adam does, nor the ability to hit inhuman notes and somehow stay, for the most part, on key. That said, I’m not about to say that he’ll be forgotten so quickly. He seems very talented — his Wikipedia page says he plays the viola and ukulele in addition to guitar and piano — and his stage presence will only improve with more experience. If he can’t hit Daughtry/Carrie Underwood levels of post-Idol success, I think he still has a big opportunity to make it in Christian rock if he were to choose to go that route.

I’m also not so sure Adam is destined for rock stardom the way so many seem to think. I’m reminded of what I said about Melinda Doolittle. Sure, she’s a great singer, and perhaps, given her talent, she deserves to be a huge star, but she spent years singing backup for some fairly notable people. Why did she go unnoticed? Honestly, I think TPTB in music world look at her and think she doesn’t look like a star. Put her in someone else’s body and you might have a superstar. Unfortunately, she hasn’t been able to break through the barrier.

The people who craft singers into stars have also been around Adam. He’s been living and working in L.A. and trying, I assume, to hit it big for the past several years. While he’s apparently had enough success to call himself…well…successful, he’s not reached the level of superstardom. He’s been in the music/entertainment “scene” for a while. Hopefully Idol will be the big break he needs of he truly wants to become more of a recording artist and less a stage actor, the latter of which he excels at. He’s been doing theater since he was ten and while that’s not necessarily a bad thing it does seem like he overemotes everything he does. (Simon was spot-on about the theatrics in the “Mad World” performance Tuesday night.) I’m thinking the reason Adam hasn’t truly broken out before now could be because he’s actually already found his niche and, since gender-bending androgyny a la David Bowie doesn’t have the mass appeal it might once have had, there’s no way to successfully market him to the masses. Maybe Idol will change that.

I think it’s worth noting that Kris was every bit as “original” as Adam. When the judges praised Adam’s “originality” what they were actually praising was his nonconformity and his ability to choose songs that had been drastically altered by artists covering them. And yes, “Mad World” was good, but I prefer Gary Jules’ version (the one Adam sang) to Adam’s. It has the same dark tone to the music, but Jules sings much lower than Adam. Dark and a low or normal pitch sounds haunting. While Adam’s performance wasn’t bad, compared to Jules’ version it sounded like an emo 12 year-old whining. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4N3N1MlvVc4

Of course, were it not for Donnie Darko and the ad campaign for “Gears of War”, most people, myself included, would never have heard Jules’ version.

Katy

May 21st, 2009
10:38 am

Mugglemikki…why the heck did you even bother to post on this site if you feel this way???
Go find somewhere else to share your opinion!!!
:P

Katy

May 21st, 2009
10:39 am

We are obviously on the front page today!!!

AnnieR

May 21st, 2009
10:42 am

Katy, I agree….and it’s not even Mugglemiki’s words, its the Huffington Post….Like I care what they have to say about anything, let alone AI.

Mugglemikki

May 21st, 2009
10:44 am

Katy, because I can.

Mike S

May 21st, 2009
10:44 am

Great news on one of this seasons Guest performers. Natalie Cole has recieved a new Kidney, and is recovering from successful transplant surgery.

http://www.accessatlanta.com/hp/content/shared-gen/ap/Recordings/US_People_Natalie_Cole.html?cxntlid=thbz_hm

Deirdre

May 21st, 2009
10:46 am

Angela’s comment makes me want to ask..if the show hadn’t been pimping Adam, do y’all think the outcome would have been the same?

Just a reminder, imo, pimping is NEVER the fault of the person being pimped.

Deirdre

May 21st, 2009
10:46 am

Thanks, Mike…gg filled us in on that yesterday.

Neg gives props to Rodney

May 21st, 2009
10:46 am

JT: Neg does not tolerate douche bags – be they tolerant or intolerant. Mugglemikki = Douche bag.

Deirdre

May 21st, 2009
10:48 am

Come on guys…be patient with us Adam fans. Losing stings! We’re allowed our 2 cents….or 5 cents…or even a couple of bucks!

Mugglemikki

May 21st, 2009
10:49 am

Neg, do you kiss your mother with that mouth? I know the truth hurts…

Deirdre

May 21st, 2009
10:51 am

Hey mugglemikki…haven’t heard from you in awhile. welcome back…sorry about Adam…I loved him too and voted my poor fingers raw the other night. all for naught! Oh well, I see big things for all the contestants this year but, then, I always fo so my track record ain’t that good!!! :-)

QC

May 21st, 2009
10:52 am

I’m glad Kris won – i just knew he would cause he was the “under-dog” his cd will see for sure….But Adam…now his cd will probably go Platinum…i’m sure he was just shocked that he lost

RK

May 21st, 2009
10:53 am

Larry King? That’s relevant. Could they go on a show with someone who is more out of touch?

Dixie Normous

May 21st, 2009
10:53 am

Adam lost because he is gay and he sucks compared to Kris.

GAgirl

May 21st, 2009
10:54 am

D, that’s a very good question. I think to a certain extent the pimping may have had some effect. I know it turned me off but was not the reason I didn’t vote for Adam. Adam certainly had the talent but I preferred Kris’s musical style more.

Mugglemikki

May 21st, 2009
10:55 am

Hey Deirdre..thanks! Glad to be back! I know, my mother and I were on the phone when the results were announced and we were both shocked. Don’t get me wrong, I liked Kris–especially is rendition of Heartless. I just disagree with the outcome-totally.

JTesla

May 21st, 2009
10:55 am

Adam was pimped? Sorry I thought that was what we got for Danny. Didn’t we go through weeks of torment as people came here slamming AI for pimping Danny? Danny was promoted from the audition phase and didn’t deliver; Adam didn’t receive much attention until the top 13 and then was supported because he DID deliver. After we hit the top 13 it was fan interest that kept him afloat, just check the sites that monitor web searches for evidence of that. If you need more evidence go back and check the iTunes top downloads over the course of the season… no pimping needed for Adam.

Neg gives props to Rodney

May 21st, 2009
10:55 am

Mugglemikki, do you want to kiss Neg’s ass with your mouth? Warning: I’m feelin’ gassy.

Nana

May 21st, 2009
10:56 am

This is specifically for Neg.

In your post of May 20, 3:07, you gave me a challenge. Well, here goes.

If you are so tired of my incessant well-wishes and tedious updates on my busy schedule, then just go play with yourself. I will refrain from using the verbage you did (with lack of one letter) because I refuse to meet your level. You stated that you would aplogize for the comment if I dared to make a comment in reference to yours. Well, buddy boy, consider this a nasty reply because this is all you will get from this lady! I will continue to make my well wishes to you and everyone else on here and if you don’t like it, tough sh!t. There I said it and I EXPECT an apology from one Neg on this public blog.

Mugglemikki

May 21st, 2009
10:56 am

No thanks Neg. You are probably too busy getting your salad tossed anyway. Smooches! :-)

JTesla

May 21st, 2009
10:57 am

Dixie Normous well yes that is kind of why we refer to him as being gay. :)

Mugglemikki

May 21st, 2009
10:58 am

Don’t worry Nana–I have NO PROBLEM stooping to Neg’s level…no matter how far I have to stoop! :-)

JTesla

May 21st, 2009
10:58 am

Don’t mess with Nana!

Neg takes back everything he said to Nana

May 21st, 2009
10:59 am

If you are so tired of my incessant well-wishes and tedious updates on my busy schedule, then just go play with yourself.

I am actually getting choked up… that was beautiful, Nana! I take it all back now with full apologies!!!

Angela

May 21st, 2009
11:00 am

I think I reached my limit about two weeks ago when Danny and Kris got regular stage, regular lighting, etc. and then Adam comes down this lit up stage like whoever it was in “Grease” that appeared to Frenchie. Even last night, I LOVED the song Kris and Keith did but then look at the stage Adam got with KISS. The fireworks, the whole bit. I really do think that was a factor in Adam not winning. My 26 year old called this morning and I figured if anyone voted for Adam, he would, but to my surprise, he felt exactly the same way. I didn’t even think it was appropriate last night for Katy Perry to advertise who she was for. Sure she has a right to her opinion but come on, not flaunt it in the show.

Angela

May 21st, 2009
11:02 am

Sorry, I meant last week, not last night with Katy Perry.

Donna Outlaw

May 21st, 2009
11:04 am

Don’t insult John Mayer that way!

Dixie Normous

May 21st, 2009
11:05 am

sucks at singing good that at singing that is.

Neg and Mugglemikki, can i get in on the salad tossing and other ass action?

Deirdre

May 21st, 2009
11:06 am

Neg…LOL!!!!! Nana!!!! LOL!! Double!

JT…about the pimping….totally agree…..nobody noticed Adam until BOOM..there he was!

Mugglemikki…I know…I don’t agree with the outcome either but it is what it is. Kris is very talented so it’s not like he shouldn’t have won..but I agree that Adam was extra special!

JTesla

May 21st, 2009
11:06 am

Angela, what was done by Idol fits their individual styles. Can you really see Kris performing with fog and theatric lighting? No! He is a folksy low key singer who focuses on the music and not on the performance aspect.

Oh and relax because in case you missed it Kris won.

Doug

May 21st, 2009
11:06 am

Kris got the Gokey vote; Same type of singers. When Gokey left, all they could vote for was Kris. The Gokies were not moving to Adam no way no how.

Terrie

May 21st, 2009
11:06 am

As I read through these comments this morning, I expected to see the usual “Kris haters” upset about “the upset”. But, I’m so pleasantly surprised by the “love” on your blog. You have some really good quality readers here. I’m from central Arkansas and a Christian. Adam being gay or not, was not an issue with me anyone else I know here. I just think the majority of voters got a little tired of the screaming. I also think Fox and the AI judges hurt him the most. It was just too much favoritism. And like it’s already been said, Kris grew each and every week. Despite all the rude comments, “Danny was better” by Simon, Kris never let it stop him. Arkansas really got out and voted by the millions. We may be little, but we are strong and so proud of Kris. Thanks for keeping the focus on the fact that he deserves this. I am so happy for him, but I know Adam will find the right fit. He has won as well and he knows that. I don’t think he would be proud of the hate comments made by his fans. He’s a nice guy. Neither of these two are “one trick ponies”. They will both be very successfull. Congrats Kris and Adam!